From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #436 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, September 2 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 436 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- spitting in the face of God? [Zzutak@aol.com] Fw: liz phair in the NY times njc (for aol members) [Emiliano ] Brady Blade (njc) ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Tlog and the Geffen Box ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] get me off this list, njc, short ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] RE: the book swap list (NJC) [ReckersL@ebrd.com] A Quiet but Hair-raising Joni Moment [] NJC - Jesus' Brother Bob (The Arrogant Worms) [OzWoman321@aol.com] Re: My computer is driving me crazy! njc altogether [Michael Paz ] Re: A Quiet but Hair-raising Joni Moment [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NJC - Did Jesus Have a Baby Sister? (Dory Previn) ["Mark or Travis" <] Covers #44 - This 44 is loaded! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Joni - Let's Sing Out (long but cool stuff involved) NJC ["kakki" ] Re: THE JACKIE MASON LAUNDRIES -- njc [Michael Paz ] Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Joni - Let's Sing Out (long but cool stuff involved) NJC ["kerry" ] Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc ["kakki" ] Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc ["kakki" ] Today in History: September 2 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: September 2 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 03:22:22 EDT From: Zzutak@aol.com Subject: spitting in the face of God? Hello friends, Today at a birthday party I played Joni's recent "Both Sides Now" CD, as one of my in-laws is an aspiring jazz singer who likes standards. After a while I asked my wife if my sister-in-law noticed the CD or not, as I didn't see any glimmers during the bustle of activity. My wife said "Yes, she calls this CD "Spitting In The Face Of God", since Joni has stripped two octaves off her beautiful voice from smoking cigarettes. But she does like it enough to have bought a copy herself". This was essentially the same observation... minus the colorful metaphor... that a buddy made when we saw her perform in Bethel a few years ago at the "A Day In The Garden" event (this circulates on DAT and CDr, I'm sure many/most of you have it). I'm not trying to be provocative, I've liked Joni since childhood when my mom used to play "Songs To A Seagull" in the livingroom below our bedroom when my brother and I were going to sleep. I have all her albums and CDs, and "Seagull" will always be lodged deep in my subconscious as a result of those nascent listenings. Maybe this topic has been discussed ad infinitum, but I'm curious if anybody has any comments, as the subject just resurfaced today in an unexpected situation. Pax, Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 09:55:45 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: liz phair in the NY times njc (for aol members) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wally Kairuz" To: Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 4:35 AM Subject: liz phair in the NY times njc > for an interesting interview with liz phair go to > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/29/readersopinions/phair-questions.html?th > > wally, a liz phair fan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:17 +0100 (BST) From: steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder) Subject: November 8th party in England DIARY DATE Just a short preliminary announcement that we are organising a party on Saturday November 8th from 1.30-5.00 to celebrate Joni's 60th at a performance space in Bedford, England. Live performances of Joni songs,video footage and other exciting things are envisaged. Joni look-a-likes extremely welcome! Further details to come. Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:17:04 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc > THE JACKIE MASON LAUNDRIES Hey Murph, Brilliant, did you write that yourself? Laurent, french Jackie fan club ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:12:33 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Brady Blade (njc) Sue, Brady Blade's brother is Brian Blade. Brady appears on Emmylou's "Spyboy" CD and on the Hi-Fi VHS video of the same name, now available for purchase. I have it on VHS, it's probably on DVD. I think her voice is stronger on "Spyboy" than it was on the well-regarded "Wrecking Ball", so I like those live versions better. How come we hardly said, "Hi" at JoniFest? What up with that? I'm sorry the group picture didn't turn out this year 'cause it was the only one I would have had of you. Have a great 3-day weekend. Lama >Among the many musicians accompanying Dave on Some Devil are Phish guitarist Trey Anastasio and Dave's longtime collaborator, guitarist Tim Reynolds. Bassist Tony Hall (Bob Dylan, The Neville Brothers, Willie Nelson) and drummer Brady Blade Jr. (Emmylou Harris, Steve Earle, Chris Whitley) also appear on the album, which was produced by Busted Stuff producer Stephen Harris.> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:00:04 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Tlog and the Geffen Box Wow, Ken. This is a neat analysis of TRAVELOGUE! No one's ever called them "epic closing tracks" before so I have to give you major points for that. I was listening to TLOG last week and the live YES shows all this weekend so I'm stoked with bombast. Frankly, I like those tracks on TLOG. Like the tradition in jazz, the idea is to enrich the catalog with interpretation, not replace the original album tracks. I don't know if Sinatra was the first one to record it or not, but what if he hadn't recorded "Fly Me To The Moon" because it had already 'been done'? Would the world be a better place if he hadn't recorded "Send In the Clowns"? Not to me. Some feel that it was sacrilege to dress up "Judgment of the Moon And Stars". I think the subject of epic tragedy, the setting and the theme of carrying on [in spite of troubles] were completely right for a huge treatment. When I first heard Vince Mendoza's arrangement at the Pine Knob Amphitheatre near Detroit, Michigan, US during the 'Both Sides Now' tour..... Well, it stayed with me for days. Aaron Copeland and Keith Emerson would love it. For me, the entire cost of TRAVELOGUE is justified because I have a studio version of this magnificent arrangement. The vast collection of paintings and the other tracks are bonuses. Last night I really thought the foreboding version of "Woodstock" worked well too. I keep quoting Kate on TRAVELOGUE: it's not background music. It's foreground music. All the best, Lama ken, you said, >My problem with Tlog is that at least half of the songs sound like they're meant to be the epic closing track of the album.> In fact, I count five that actually did close their respective original albums, six if you count trouble child (since twisted, despite being one of my very favorite joni performances, is somewhat of a coda)> About the boxed set, if you don't have the LPs or the HDCD editions of the Geffen albums, then yeah, by all means, buy. I have hours and hours of interviews so her text about the songs might mean more to you than to others. Maybe I'll have to get it. You said, > it's not just a repackaging, I'm expecting these to sound substantially better than the current CDs, most of which are brittle and compressed> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:25:10 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc Laurent writes: << did you write that yourself? >> What? You maybe know someone else who would mix Mitchell and Mason? Take care, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:58:26 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: get me off this list, njc, short Say something offensive. Lama > From: QingCong@aol.com how do i get off this list? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:03:04 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: how do i get off this list? PS, No, seriously, to get off the list, do this: 1. Create a new email and put this address in the "TO" box: majordomo@smoe.org 2. You can leave the subject line empty. 3. In the body, paste these four lines. u*subscribe onlyjoni-digest u*subscribe joni-digest u*subscribe onlyjoni u*subscribe onlyjoni 4. Replace all four * with n. 5. Send it. Happy trails, Lama You said, >From: QingCong@aol.com how do i get off this list? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:45:21 +0100 From: ReckersL@ebrd.com Subject: RE: the book swap list (NJC) Hi Bob! Well that's very brave, giving your own book so many marks (how many exactly? oh let's count the appendages...:-) ) and my own book only one! Hmm... No seriously, many thanks for the reviews, I'm just very surprised that we disagree so much on Arundhati's book, I thought our literary likes and dislikes would be more similar - but that's probably just an illusion based on the fact that I do find your jokes so funny! Uncle John also asked if we would be doing reviews. Well we could, of course, as our blue friend has just demonstrated. So that's an open invitation. But remember that the idea was also that people can "recycle" these books whenever they get to another jonifest or JMDL gathering (with only people new to the swap group contributing more books), and that's when I think it would be nice if they could add their review to what has already been written inside the book by the original contributor. Just my suggestion, of course... Lieve. - -----Original Message----- From: Murphycopy@aol.com [mailto:Murphycopy@aol.com] Sent: 30 August 2003 05:19 To: ReckersL@ebrd.com; NortheastJonifest@yahoogroups.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: the book swap list (NJC) Lovely Lit'ry Lieve writes: << Most of us felt that we wanted to give all the books a try (unless we had read them already, like the blue bookworm sitting to my left! :-) ) >> I lied, Lieve. I only read a few. Here are my capsule Smurf reviews: A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole ONE BLUE THUMB UP: I read it so long ago I am probably due for a reread, since so many people love this book. But so many people raved about it before I read it, I was let down. The Blackwater Lightship by Colm Toibin ONE BLUE THUMB UP: The book Catherine bright which I chose. I liked it okay, and then I let a 20-something Irish woman friend of mine borrow it. Last I heard she was loving it and brought it on vacation this past week to South Beach. (Sometimes the Irish just don't get it . . . FLORIDA in August? The Commitments by Roddy Doyle ALL BLUE APPENDAGES UP: The best novel ever written about making popular music, in my opinion. It was the book I brought and Donna chose it. I hope she's loving it half as much as I did. I reread it every couple of years to remind myself how simple great writing can be. The Shipping News by Annie Proulx HALF A BLUE THUMB UP: What am I missing with Annie? The critics and many readers love her, but she leaves me cold. Portnoy's Complaint by Philip Roth TWO BLUE LIVER-SPOTTED THUMBS UP: I read it when I was about 16, so I am not sure how well it has aged, but my guess is that it's an American classic by now. Liver has never tasted the same since I read this! The Jungle by Upton Sinclair TWO MEATY BLUE THUMBS UP: I love a good story about meatpacking! Also read this when I was a teenager, but it's another American classic fer sure. The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver ONE BLUE NILE THUMB UP: I suppose this is considered Barbara's magnum opus, but I have enjoyed a few of her other books much more. Learned a lot about atrocious Euro behavior in Africa, though! To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee TWO BLUE THUMBS UP: Speaking of American classics. The God of Small Things by Arundhati Roy ONE BLUE FINGER NAIL UP: I thought I would love this and I didn't. I remember some "facts" being out of whack, which always makes me bluer in the face. But many people love this one too, so what do I know? Thanks, Lieve, for posting this list. There were so many to choose from the day of the swap I felt like a starving carnivore in a butcher shop. I especially want to read the books Chuck and Dutch John brought, so I'll check those out next. (Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem and An Interrupted Life by Etty Hillesum). --Bob, now reading The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon and loving it (Thanks, Ric!) ______________________________________________________________ This message may contain privileged information. If you have received this message by mistake, please keep it confidential and return it to the sender. Although we have taken steps to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, the EBRD accepts no liability for any loss or damage caused by computer viruses and would advise you to carry out your own virus checks. The contents of this e-mail do not necessarily represent the views of the EBRD. ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:52:42 -0400 From: Subject: A Quiet but Hair-raising Joni Moment > Part of the heady excitement of being new to the place is the various > > invitations from well-meaning people to spend an evening or weekend > with them. > > I had one last evening -- unforgettable and heartwarming. My adviser > > and his wife invited me to dinner in their indescribably > bee-you-tee- > full house in Chatham County and they treated me like their son > (almost > everyone in UNC seems to be especially kind and helpful to me, from > that lady in the laundromat who gave me life-changing lessons in > separating the colored from the white shirts before loading my > clothes > to the machine, to the professor I met in a coffee shop down the > street > and who invited me to a martini in his place when he realized I am an > > international student). The dinner was lovely and we had great fun > talking about anything that we happen to peripherally discuss from > Bruno Latour to bartending to hummingbirds and to _The Magdalene > Sisters_. It was at this juncture when they talked about a song a > woman > sang about the Magdalene sisters. Naturally Joseph proudly said it > was > Joni Mitchell who sang Magdalene Laundries. Then my adviser took his > > Chieftains album with Joni singing Magadalene Laundries in one of the > > tracks. The three of us dimmed the light and Joni's lower registers > came oh-so-clearly in the darkened room and told the story of a > 27-year > old who may or may not have been made pregnant by her father. It was > a > very quiet moment for the 3 of us then I before I knew it, goose > bumps > were on me because of Joni's plaintive singing. The spare > arrangements > and the background vocals eerily evoked a revisionist _The Sound of > Music_ vision in the song. When the song ended I found myself misty- > eyed and so was my adviser and his wife. I have not experienced a > Joni > performance this hair-raising since she sang Little Green, and it was > > at the time I broke up with my long-time girlfriend. > > I told my adviser and his wife to get TI to discover more of Joni. > Turned out theye were long time Joni fans. They were very much in the > > California subculture thing in the mid-60s to late 60s. For the first > > time, I kind of looked at them the way I would probably look at Joni > > when I will see her for the first time -- with reverence and awe. > > I wonder what Joni thinks of _The Magdalene Sisters_ as a movie. > > Joseph in CH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:32:55 EDT From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: NJC - Jesus' Brother Bob (The Arrogant Worms) Hello, All - Mingus said: > Just contact SCJoniGuy@aol.com, He can get it for you,well worth it. Why he > > is almost like Jesus with his Joni covers program, and his knowlege of the > girl. > There is even rumor that he has been posing as the Big Guy down there in > South Carolina. I wonder if Mel Gibson needs an Understudy for that movie > he's > making about Jesus? This Bob guy can even sing the part!:-) I saw this post and couldn't resist sharing the following lyrics from The Arrogant Worms, a fabulous group similar to Barenaked Ladies and Moxy Fruvous (all Canadians, of course!) - enjoy... :-) Jesus' Brother Bob - The Arrogant Worms If you haven't heard of me I wouldn't be surprised I bet you know my relatives Their names will never die My mother is a saint And my brother is a god But all I am is Jesus' brother Bob Jesus' brother Bob, Jesus' brother Bob A nobody relative of the son of God If only I'd been born just a little sooner I'd be more than the brother of God Junior I have to take the ferry To cross the Galilee But not my brother No not him He walks across for free I finally get to work 'Bout a quarter after nine Already he's turning water into wine Jesus' brother Bob, Jesus' brother Bob A nobody relative of the son of God If only I'd been born just a little sooner I'd be more than the brother of God Junior One day when I was home I heard a mighty roar There were a thousand people Right outside the door Help us, Jesus, help us! Came the cheering from the mob But then they got a look at me Oh nuts, it's only Bob Jesus' brother Bob, Jesus' brother Bob A nobody relative of the son of God If only I'd been born just a little sooner I'd be more than the brother of God Junior He died upon the cross I thought that I was free Finally people would get to know Me for me (Hi Bob, Hi Judas!) This was my big chance To finally get ahead The next thing you know He's rising from the dead Jesus' brother Bob, Jesus' brother Bob A nobody relative of the son of God If only I'd been born just a little sooner I'd be more than the brother of God Junior Everybody! Jesus' brother Bob, Jesus' brother Bob A nobody relative of the son of God If only I'd been born just a little sooner I'd be more than the brother of God Junior Susan http://www.horseofadifferentcolorbooking.com http://www.heartsdesireconcerts.com "Left alone I've been known to go on this merry-go-round till I'm dizzy and down to my last wooden nickel and my last free ride I cross my fingers and I close my eyes Hoping it don't end, and when it does, there's someone at my side..." ~ Michael McNevin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:28:28 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: My computer is driving me crazy! njc altogether You can run PC stuff and create PC stuff on the MAC so you can take it to school. But you can not do it the other way around. Amazing yet true. Paz > --- Michael Paz wrote: > > Going with a MAC will solve 99% of your problems and >> none of those pesky >> Microsoft viruses. I have been a loyal MAC use since >> the Apple 512. I HAVE >> to use a PC clone at work and I always have >> headaches with it. > > When I set out to buy a computer, I WAS going to get a > Mac, but I decided to go PC because that's what we use > at work and that's what the kids have at school (come > to think of it, I think in my son's elementary school, > they use Macs, but at Sarah's high school, they have > PCs), so I thought it would be easier all around to go > PC. But from my own experience with PCs and from what > I've heard about Macs.... I shoulda boughta Mac! > > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:28:00 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Jesus' Brother Bob (The Arrogant Worms) >Jesus' Brother Bob - The Arrogant Worms Pretty funny stuff Susan...thanks for sharing it. Jesus actually did have a brother, probably not named Bob however. Talk about a hard act to follow! :~) Bob NP: Cheap Trick, "I Want You To Want Me" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:36:24 -0500 From: "Emily M. Griskavich" Subject: Bugs, Phobias, & Joni Happy Songs Firstly, one time there was a really bad summer plague of grasshoppers in Grant County, WI, where many members of my family live. I was 8 or 9. I was walking down my mom's cousin's driveway after leaving her house, and it was blanketed with the little buggers (no pun intended). One really big one was standing between me and the car, with normal-sized one's all around it. I tried so hard not to step on or near the hoppers, and my family was whining at me for taking such a long time to get in the car. All the people AND hoppers were watching me, I swear. Eventually, I put my foot down right next to the big one and he jumped as high as my waist REPEATEDLY. I screamed and dodged and scared more hoppers, who began to hop and fly all over my legs. I just about had an apoplectic fit. Eventually my dad had to help me shoo them and get me down the driveway to the car. I have Obsessive-compulsive disorder (after that, who wouldn't?) and you'd be surprised what I'm afraid of. I have to pick up tinfoil and rubber bands at the side of the road or somebody's pet will eat it and have a hell of a time passing it. I have to pick up small rocks at the side of the road or a car's tires will fling them into the eyes of a little child. And I can't walk into a kitchen without making sure the stove is turned off when not in use, or the building will burn down. Of course, all that was true BEFORE I got on meds. It's not so true now. And who forgot to add "Twisted" to happy Joni songs! GRR! - -Emily ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:40:24 EDT From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: NJC - Did Jesus Have a Baby Sister? (Dory Previn) Hello, All - Bob said: << Pretty funny stuff Susan...thanks for sharing it. Jesus actually did have a brother, probably not named Bob however. Talk about a hard act to follow! :~) >> Okay, one more - then I swear my recovering-Catholic-self is finished being sacrilegious... :-) Did Jesus Have a Baby Sister? - --By Dory Previn did jesus have a baby sister? was she bitter? was she sweet? did she wind up in a convent? did she end up on the street? on the run? on the stage? did she dance? did he have a sister? a little baby sister? did jesus have a sister? did they give her a chance? did he have a baby sister? could she speak out by and large? or was she told by mother mary ask your brother hebs in charge hebs the whipped cream on the cake did he have a sister? a little baby sister? did jesus have a sister? did they give her a break? her brotherbs birth announcement was pretty big pretty big i guess while she got precious little notice in the local press her mother was the virgin when she carried him carried him therein if the little girl came later then was she conceived in sin? and in sorrow? and in shame? did jesus have a sister? what was her name? did she long to be the savior saving everyone she met? and in private to her mirror did she whisper saviorette? saviorwoman? saviorperson? save your breath! did he have a sister? a little baby sister? did jesus have a sister? was she there at his death? and did she cry for marybs comfort as she watched him on the cross? and was mary too despairing ask your brother hebs the boss hebs the chief hebs the man hebs the show did he have a sister? a little baby sister? did jesus have a sister? doesnbt anyone know? Susan http://www.horseofadiffer entcolorbooking.com http://www.heartsdesireconcerts.co m "Left alone I've been known to go on this merry-go-round till I'm dizzy and down to my last wooden nickel and my last free ride I cross my fingers and I close my eyes Hoping it don't end, and when it does, there's someone at my side..." ~ Michael McNevin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:45:23 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Did Jesus Have a Baby Sister? (Dory Previn) >Okay, one more - then I swear my recovering-Catholic-self is finished being >sacrilegious... :-) What? No "Jesus - The Missing Years" by John Prine? :~) Bob NP: Pinback, "Microtonic Wave" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:39:09 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: A Quiet but Hair-raising Joni Moment Hi Joseph, Welcome to the U.S.! I'm glad to hear you're being warmly welcomed and, along with all the booklearnin' you'll be doing, hope that your stay here is a happy one. You'll probably be saying "y'all" in no time. Your sensitively written description of Joni's 'Magdalene Laundries' on the Chieftains "Tears of Stone" was so inspiring I had to listen again myself. Yes, it is a misty-eye maker. Her weary voice perfectly expresses the sorrow and disgust of the story. The line that gets me most today is "We're trying to get things white as snow, all of us woebegotten daughters..." So sad. I picture women obsessively trying to remove actual dirt, which can never be done, of course, because they've been taught (horribly wrongly) that the dirt is inside themselves. What a cruel and unending torture! I'm impressed, too, that the Chieftains would record such a critical song. Good Irishmen that they are, they must have gotten a lot of flak for that. As Ron (I think) said, Joni manages to criticize in a very particular way. No one can deny the story of the Magdalene Laundries, and yet I don't get the impression that Joni ever condemns the entire Church. That's not an easy thing to avoid, as some of the responses written here to the movie have shown. It's one more thing to admire about Joni. Debra Shea palis@email.unc.edu wrote: > > > Part of the heady excitement of being new to the place is the various > > invitations from well-meaning people to spend an evening or weekend > > with them. > > I had one last evening -- unforgettable and heartwarming. > ... The three of us dimmed the light and Joni's lower registers > came oh-so-clearly in the darkened room and told the story of a > 27-year old who may or may not have been made pregnant by her father. > It was a very quiet moment for the 3 of us then I before I knew it, > goose bumps were on me because of Joni's plaintive singing. The spare > arrangements and the background vocals eerily evoked a revisionist _The > Sound of Music_ vision in the song. When the song ended I found myself > misty-eyed and so was my adviser and his wife. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:06:12 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: A Quiet but Hair-raising Joni Moment >The line that gets me >most today is "We're trying to get things white as snow, all of us >woebegotten daughters..." That's a powerful one, in a song full of them. If I can make it to "they just stuffed her in hole..." without getting teary-eyed, that one usually gets me. It's also a very moving performance on the 2001 Joni Hommage video when the one singer starts "Sunny Sunday" then the other vocalist recites "Magdalene Laundries" as prose, then the second half of Sunny Sunday closes it out. A very moving juxtaposition, and definitely two of Joni's songs that are NOT very happy. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:19:53 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: NJC - Did Jesus Have a Baby Sister? (Dory Previn) SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >> Okay, one more - then I swear my recovering-Catholic-self is >> finished being sacrilegious... :-) > > What? No "Jesus - The Missing Years" by John Prine? :~) > How about 'The Son of Jesus' by Jefferson Airplane? Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:59:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers #44 - This 44 is loaded! Well, I see by the calendar on the wall that September is here...summer's coming to a close, we begin the final third of the year, and yet another volume of Joni covers is loosed upon the world. And it's a fine collection too, if it was a meal it would be described as a platter full of tasty tidbits, some prime, some rare, some a little bitter to the taste, and some sprinkled with cheese! Here's a table of contents: 1. Melissa Errico - Night Ride Home: This one just came out this year, I like it a lot, enough to make it one of my "Sweet 16". Melissa is a NYC cabaret singer. 2. Lynn Pinto - Big Yellow Taxi: Speaking of NYC, this is from another recent release called "Broadway Romances Manhattan" from singer-actress Lynn Pinto. 3. Robert Guillaume - Both Sides Now: Benson Sings! And quite nicely I might add on this very pleasant version of BSN. 4. Seona McDowell - Morning Morgantown: This 70's recording of one of Joni's lesser-covered tunes is also quite nice, Seona is from Australia and now makes her home in New England. Thanks to John "Wombat" Low for the heads-up on this one. 5. Dave Cornell & Gini Conard - Woodstock: Have no clues as to who these people are, but I can tell you that this is a VERY rare recording on an album called "The Unconcert". Dave's guitar reminds me a lot od Stephen Stills acoustic, this one has a very folkish feel to it. 6. Wendy Colonna - Rainy Night House 7. Wendy Colonna - The Fiddle And The Drum: Two very nice live recordings by Austin, TX singer/songwriter. Hear them for yourself at: http://www.wendycolonna.com/audio.asp 8. Donald Hall - Both Sides Now: A lovely harp version...probably what they play when you enter Joni heaven! 9. R. Michael Torrey - Urge For Going: West Coast singer/songwriter, now making his home in Portland, OR. He's still recording, this is from a collection of his earliest recordings. A very haunting version too. 10. Carmina - You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio 11. Carmina - River: I just love a twofer, especially when they're both great! Carmina describes her music as a marriage between jazz and Celtic acoustic. The first of these is live, from her latest release, and River is a studio version that she recorded spontaneously in the studio and dedicated to a close friend that had passed away. 12. Denver, Boise, & Johnson - Both Sides Now: As in John Denver, David Boise, and Michael Johnson. This trio formed after the Chad Mitchell trio broke up and gigged for a couple of years before Denver went on to bigger things. 13. Becky Koch - Help Me: Again, not much is known here...another very obscure recording, similar to Joni's own recording and released in the same time frame (1978)...some nice jazzy guitar work. 14. Co Co Beaux - A Case Of You: The Men's acapella chorus from Connecticut College...hence the name Co Co Beaux. This CD is actually out of print, so I was lucky to find it. A very unique treatment of ACOY, especially being sung with all male voices. 15. Sara Hickman - Chelsea Morning: Another fairly new recording from 2002 from singer-songwriter Hickman. This one is very wonderful, features lots of fine instrumental colors, great percussion, nice string arrangements and fiddles, it's just good in every way. 16. Lyn Paul - A Case For You: A very interesting recording...Lyn used to sing with The New Seekers ("I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing") and has remained on the scene for a long time. Recently she appeared in Boy George's London musical "Tabboo" and released a promo-only cd single for radio play, and just on a whim recorded the Joni cover to go with it, calling it "A Case For You" as opposed to the correct title. Whew! I had a time hunting this one down, but eventually got in my clutches. And Lyn does a nice job as well which makes it all worthwhile. 17. Patrick Ki - Both Sides Now: Hawaiian born and slack-key influenced acoustic guitarist, now makes his home in Sedona, AZ. This is an "easy-listening" version, pretty enough but not really very inspired. 18. Chris Klich Jazz Quintet - River: San Diego jazz combo features Laura Preble on vocals on this track. 19. The Practicers - All I Want 20. The Practicers - Big Yellow Taxi: There's something about the ragged demo-ish aspect of these recordings I really like. This duo had little or no recording budget but loved Joni songs so much they just had to record a mess of 'em. I like the clean solos this guy plays, and the female vocals are on the mark more often than not. What they lack in budget, they make up for in enthusiasm. 21. Anne Lorne Gillies - Both Sides Now: 1975 release from UK singer. Pretty basic, nothing really unique about this one. So there you have it - the loaded 44. Hey don't point that thing in the house! Stay tuned to win a free copy. Bob NP: The Practicers, "All I Want" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 19:41:04 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc So very clever and funny at the same time. I forwarded this to a friend of mine. I wanted her to see first hand what kind of incredible talent is here in Joniland. She is not familiar with Joni's not so familiar songs..... so I sent her the lyrics to The Magdelene Laundries. I told her too about Les's incredible...you could hear a pin drop rendition. Bree >Laurent writes: > ><< did you write that yourself? >> > >What? You maybe know someone else who would mix Mitchell and Mason? > >Take care, > > --Bob _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:54:36 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Did Jesus Have a Baby Sister? (Dory Previn) Bob Muller wrote: << What? No "Jesus - The Missing Years" by John Prine? :~) >> And Mark added: << How about 'The Son of Jesus' by Jefferson Airplane? >> To which I add my personal fave, "Jesus Was Way Cool" by King Missile --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 21:02:10 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Geffen {was RE: TLOG & BSN} njc I have heard three cuts from the new Dave album which is out on the 23rd of this month. He has a a plethora of people on this album including Trey from Phish amongst others. The song Gravediggers is pretty dark and did not quite reach me as of yet. The other two were much better. They have been previewing the album on Launchcast on Yahoo. Best Paz >> Anyway, I'm a lot more excited about September releases from >> Seal, John Mayer, Elvis Costello, Dave Matthews (solo), & love >> of my life Shelby Lynne. > > > A new release from Seal? Is he the new Joni putting, out a new one > every 3 years? And Dave Matthews solo? Does that mean something like > unplugged or? Or is it Dave Matthews with studio musicians? (as > opposed to the Dave Matthews Band) > > Inquiring JMDLers want to know! > > Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:01:28 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: spitting in the face of God? Sean wrote: > My wife said "Yes, she calls this CD "Spitting In The Face Of God", since Joni has >stripped two octaves off her beautiful voice from smoking cigarettes. Only the God of human critics and conventional culture. The God I know would tell Joni to go for it - it's about more than vocal ability, just IMO. > Maybe this topic has been discussed ad infinitum, but I'm curious > if anybody has any comments, as the subject just resurfaced today in an > unexpected situation. We've discussed it a lot and it will probably always be a topic because Joni's voice changed so drastically. My opinion is that the smoking is only a small part of it. Some women after middle age lose their beautiful singing voices due to hormonal changes, some don't. I think Joi may have also strained her voice out early on. I've heard there are many opera singers who chain smoke who can still hit the notes. Maybe there is more to it with Joni, physiologically, than we might know. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:05:52 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Joni - Let's Sing Out (long but cool stuff involved) NJC I finally got to view the tape today. It's wonderful. What really struck me was how the men onstage and in the audience seemed so dumbstruck watching her. They were acting like this incredible alien creature had descended on them and they were totally blown away. It's funny because the first time I heard her sing I was also blown away and can still marvel at it all so many years later. For that time, she truly was something amazingly original and beautiful. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 21:10:49 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Brady Blade (njc) Suze Brady and Brian are brothers and they are both from Louisiana. Best Paz > Bob wrote: > Looks like the latter. From the official DMB website: > Dave Matthews' debut solo album, Some Devil, will be released Tuesday, > September 23rd. Among the many musicians accompanying Dave on Some Devil are > Phish > guitarist Trey Anastasio and Dave's longtime collaborator, guitarist Tim > Reynolds. Bassist Tony Hall (Bob Dylan, The Neville Brothers, Willie Nelson) > and > drummer Brady Blade Jr. (Emmylou Harris, Steve Earle, Chris Whitley) also > appear > on the album, which was produced by Busted Stuff producer Stephen Harris. > > Does anyone know if Brady is related to Brian??? > > Curious, > > Suze > > n.p. Steamroller Blues, from Joni/James in London ***THANKS RACHEL!!!*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 21:12:10 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: THE JACKIE MASON LAUNDRIES -- njc Murph You have outdone yerself agin. This one is a hallOfamer. Stunning! Paz > THE JACKIE MASON LAUNDRIES > > I was an unmarried mensch > I'd just turned fifty-something > When they sent me to the Catskills > For the way men laughed at me > Branded as a schlemazel > I knew I was not bound for Vegas > I'd be cast like bubkes > Into the Jackie Mason Laundries > > Most shlemiels come here ferklempt > Some by their cacaimamey routines > Schecky got that schtick >> From Myron Cohen > We're trying to get some laughs you know > All of us kvetching meshunginas > In the screaming tuml > Of the Jackie Mason Laundries > > Schmendricks and nebishes > And putzes like me > Schmaltzy nudniks > Shtopped into facacta shmatas > Why do they call this shpritzing meshugas > Our Home of Comedy? > Oy, comedy! > > Henny Youngman plotzed today > He had chutzpah > And gelt > They just dropped him on his tuchis > Surely to God you'd think at least some schmuck should kvell > One day I'm gonna pager too > And they'll plant me in the schmootz > Like some lame joke > That never gets any laughs > Not any laughs > Oy, not any laughs > Not any laughs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:21:29 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc The brilliant Murph wrote a parody worthy for the Hall of Fame. I'm still laughing at it! I remember Jackie from like 4 decades ago showing up on the Johnny Carson show but I've heard he is still out there selling out shows. He did some shows here in L.A. (can't remember where but it was a pretty top venue) last year and some of the lawyers I work with went to it and had a great time. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:04:46 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc << I've heard he is still out there selling out shows. He did some shows here in LA (can't remember where but it was a pretty top venue) last year and some of the lawyers I work with went to it and had a great time. >> Thanks for the high praise, Kakki! I love it! Jackie recently -- in the last few years -- had a show called "The World According to Me" which was a Broadway smash, so I bet this is the show he took to LA. I hear he is also very big in England. People either love him or hate him, I guess. He ALWAYS makes me laugh, although I hear he is politically to the right of Attilla the Hun and many people dislike him for his politics. When I lived in NYC he also was lambasted for calling former Mayor Dinkins "a fancy schvartze with a mustache." I think he has probably cleaned up his act since then. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 22:18:27 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Re: Joni - Let's Sing Out (long but cool stuff involved) NJC Yes, except Jimmy Driftwood, who just looks like he has stomach cramps! :>) - ----- Original Message ----- From: kakki To: ; ; Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Joni - Let's Sing Out (long but cool stuff involved) NJC > I finally got to view the tape today. It's wonderful. What really struck > me was how the men onstage and in the audience seemed so dumbstruck watching > her. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:47:58 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Joni - Let's Sing Out (long but cool stuff involved) NJC Hi Kerry, you wrote: > Yes, except Jimmy Driftwood, who just looks like he has stomach cramps! :>) Weren't his facial grimaces funny? - and I was laughing that the camera operator seemed intent on capturing them. He was the one who I thought had the strongest reaction to Joni - almost like "where in dangnation did SHE come from?!" while at the same time being touched by her in a way he couldn't quite process, at least live on camera, lol. I also thought Joni was subtly showing a bit of her devilish sense of humor even back then. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 00:56:11 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > > Jackie recently -- in the last few years -- had a show called "The World > According to Me" which was a Broadway smash, so I bet this is the show he took to > LA. I hear he is also very big in England. People either love him or hate him, > I guess. He ALWAYS makes me laugh, although I hear he is politically to the > right of Attilla the Hun and many people dislike him for his politics. When I > lived in NYC he also was lambasted for calling former Mayor Dinkins "a fancy > schvartze with a mustache." I think he has probably cleaned up his act since > then. Or it may have been a tryout time to polish his new show opening on Broadway this fall. He's not only far right politically, he also has a nasty attitude toward women. I never saw "The World According to Me" but did watch his HBO special, and some episodes of the tv show he had for a while. He does have some good lines, and killer timing, but at some point during one of those shows I decided I'd heard enough from him. None of that, though, influenced my enjoyment of your "Jackie Mason Laundries", Bob, which I found very funny. Definitely JMDL hall of fame material! A performance of it, by you, at next year's jonifest seems like a good idea to me, maybe with kazoo accompaniment instead of guitar. Or there's always bongos for a really dramatic effect... Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:52:10 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc Murphy wrote: > Jackie recently -- in the last few years -- had a show called "The World > According to Me" which was a Broadway smash, so I bet this is the show he took to > LA. I bet that's it, too. Heard it was hard to get tix here. > He ALWAYS makes me laugh, although I hear he is politically to the > right of Attilla the Hun and many people dislike him for his politics. Now that you've mentioned it, one of the lawyers at work did whisper to me "he's a Republican!!" ;-) God love him anyway LOL >When I lived in NYC he also was lambasted for calling former Mayor Dinkins "a >fancy schvartze with a mustache." What is a schvartze?! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 22:25:03 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Jackie Mason Laundries, njc I asked: > What is a schvartze?! Sorry - I'm German illiterate but figured it out making a connection to all the minutiae being recently discussed out here in CA about Arnold Schwartzenegger. Sounds like Jackie's shtick may be a bit retro. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 02:25:53 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: September 2 1978: Joni performed at the Bread and Roses Festival in Berkeley, California. More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Bread78.html 1979: Joni performed at the Pacific Coliseum in Vancouver, British Columbia. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=188 http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=865 http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=860 http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=866 - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 02:25:53 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 2 On September 2 the following articles were published: 1970: "Joni Mitchell" - ZigZag (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=424 1978: "Bread and Roses Program Book" - Bread and Roses (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=46 1979: "Mitchell And Mingus - an Odd Couple That Worked" - Charlotte Observer (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=874 1998: "Joni Mitchell Is Not A Woman" - Scotsman (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=321 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #436 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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