From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #404 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, August 16 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 404 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fest report 2003 ["Ross, Les" ] Re: Photos are up (NJC) ["kakki" ] yes Virginia, there really IS a Full Moon njc [magsnbrei ] Re: ...till it's gone njc [tantra-apso ] Re: Photos are up (NJC) [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Happy Birthday ["Scott and Jody" ] Re: Happy Birthday (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Happy Birthday [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Bubble bath as dust piled high ? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Bubble bath as dust piled high ? [Aerchak@aol.com] Re: Clouds... [Aerchak@aol.com] Re: Photos are up (NJC) ["kakki" ] Re: Happy Birthday (NJC) ["kakki" ] Re: "Banquet" [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "Banquet" [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] happy birthday njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: b-day & duck - njc ["Donna Binkley" ] Constantly in the darkness, where's that at? njc [Catherine McKay ] Shambala Mountain Center [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] More on The Great Stupa CD [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] More Jonifest musings (NJC) [Chris Marshall ] Re: Happy Birthday NJC [Susan Guzzi ] Re: Constantly in the darkness, where's that at? njc [Susan Guzzi ] Re: Constantly in the darkness, where's that at? njc [Catherine McKay ] fest impressions ["ron" ] Re: photos NJC [Chris Marshall ] Re: ...till it's gone njc [tantra-apso ] Re: fest impressions [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC Godspell Poster - now a technical issue with adobe reader & pdf files [Catherine McKay ] RE: fest impressions ["Nikki Johnson" ] Re: it's alive!!! [Chris Marshall ] RE: MARY CHAPIN CARPENTER, SHAWN COLVIN, PATTY GRIFFIN AND DAR WILLIAMS njc ["Nikki Johnson" ] Re: I'll be seeing you [Randy Remote ] Re: ...till it's gone njc [Randy Remote ] power outage (njc) ["Marianne Rizzo" ] The Magdalene Asylums [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Happy Birthday NJC [Randy Remote ] Happy - njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC aftermath of JoniFest [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Constantly in the darkness, where's that at? njc [dsk Subject: Fest report 2003 Hey Everyone Finally getting through the fidgeting backlog of work that faced me when I returned to my desk. I have some time now to play catch up with the Fest Reporting. In brief, it was brilliant. The best I've attended thus far. For a Fest that was hobbled by early lack of uptake, boy did it ever make up for it in the home stretch. Fantastic. In my mind, Full Moon is its natural home. A place with enough space for us all (and more besides - would be attendees please note) yet intimate enough to get to see and be with everyone. Even the ride up there on the bus was a blast with a vocal nexus of us making our presence felt. The meanwhile, Victor lead a Scrabble Fest torching everyone in his path. The journey went by in a flash. More people seemed to be there for the Thursday than last year - perhaps an indication that there is a desire for Fest to be longer than the three day event. Whatever, it was just wonderful to see and be with everyone again. It bears noting that everyone pretty much fell into step with one another immediately, like we'd just seen each other a few weeks before. It was effortless and natural. Hugs featured very heavily. I'm a willing practicioner and it's a readily acquired taste. I may be a shy retiring Scot (HAH!) but I'm not above Cuddles where honour is at stake! The music was so, so good. Really, I've been to organised professional events that failed to engage me as completely as Fest did and does. Especials for me were Susan Guzzi with Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire, Stryngs with Frank's Song, Martin Giles (Stryngs) with May You Never, Kay Ashley with Pink Moon, Bob Muller with A Soldiers Things, Jenny Goodspeed's Harmony Ensemble with Blue, Claud's Let it be Your Heartbeat (which I was supposed to accompany her in the chorus but totally wussed out on). Oh God, Sugerpants! Sublime, featuring Smurf on put-upon rhythm. Jack Neilsen with everything. Giselle with everything. Alison E with a song by the Be Good Tanyas that I don't recall the name of. There will be others I'll be later vexed I forgot to mention, but these spring to mind right now. Trooper Award has to go to Barbara Little who hauled up in a body brace having broken her back in a riding accident the week before. Wow! Having been on oxygen only a few days previously she went on to burn the house down with her set including Black Crow. Fest can do that to a body. Get fixed soon Barbara. Kudos to you and gratitude to your brother for ferrying duties. Most Valuable Player Award to Chris Marshall for ubiquitous Bass. Never seen someone so completely in his element. It was brilliant to witness. As with every Fest, we get to meet new people and that is always a major pleasure and delight. This year I got to meet Miranda (Mags' daughter - heavenly creature, divine gene pool), Jack Merkel, Gerry Notaro, Ron Greer and the Davids Mingus and Rolls. Ah, the Davids. Mmmm. Even New York wasn't big enough to keep us apart. I got to meet them there again while I was laying seige to all that NYC had to offer in shopping. That was Very Very Cool. Sigh ~* OK, moving quickly along. Bette Benedict got up and did a routine which was great fun. Victor wow'd everyone (again) with his solo Broadway Tune. Forgive me, but I don't know it's name but it was a sensation. Roberto's Broadway tunes set was wonderful as were his supporting cast of which there were very many. OMG, Joni's Guitar. I got to play Joni's Guitar. Major Gratitude to Steph and Anita for bringing that to the party. It rained a lot. It rained a helluva lot. We lost power for ages one night. No one seemed to notice much. The Full Moon staff were wonderful. So easy going. Big thanks to everyone who attended. It was a real joy to see you all again, "I long for our next embrace". This year I said no 'Good Byes' just 'See You Later'. It seemed more natural and correct. Les (London) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:59:23 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Photos are up (NJC) Wow thanks Jimmy! And thanks to Chris for hosting again this year. These are great...but someone put up some captions identifying some of the cats! Now I don't believe the myth that it rained - all your photos are in sunny technicolor. Mags - your daughter is beautiful! John and Bette - you seem like gems. Though I missed this one and the last I always feel so moved by the people who travel from afar to attend. I really regret getting the chance to meet you all in person. Another day, I hope. It's also wonderful to hear about those who got up to perform on stage for the first time. I look forward to seeing more of the photos. Will have to catch them next week when I return from godforsaken Las Vegas (where my crazy childhood friends have decided to take me for my birthday). Please send vibes that I win a jackpot so I can retire to the "garden" hee hee. Love, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 02:25:10 -0700 (PDT) From: magsnbrei Subject: yes Virginia, there really IS a Full Moon njc yes Virginia, there really IS a Full Moon. That title, well, it's about as far as I am with my Jonifest 2003 report. Still coming down to earth, coming in from the warmth of the past six weeks of the best summer holiday Ive had in my life. So many experiences woven together, glorious, shimmering threads, memories which are winding their way to the surface, gently bubbling, radiant, prisms in the sun. I promise to write more, soon. For now, suffice to say that this truly was the best of all the Fests Ive attended. (number 4 for me). if in doubt, get thee to Fest next summer, no matter what. You won't regret a thing, with the exception that our time in Eden went way too fast. love, Mags, who is thrilled to discover that she is Norah Jones' mom!!! npimh: mother and child reunion ;-) You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:39:20 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: ...till it's gone njc wokeup, it was Chelsea, morning and the first thing i saw was I was down 60 lbs the second thing I saw-a grey pubic hair. oh well. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:46:57 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: ...till it's gone njc tantra-apso wrote: >wokeup, it was Chelsea, morning >and the first thing i saw was > >I was down 60 lbs > >the second thing I saw-a grey pubic hair. > >oh well. > > > bugger! it should have read, woke up, it was a chelsea morning...... - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 05:53:59 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Photos are up (NJC) In a message dated 15/08/2003 10:11:33 GMT Daylight Time, kakkib@vzavenue.net writes: > I really regret getting the > chance to meet you all in person. [ahem] :-) Azeem ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:54:56 -0400 From: "Scott and Jody" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Happy Birthday Darhlink!! We really, really missed you at fest. I thought your birthday was on the 18th. Have a wonderful Birthday week!! love, jody - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Paz" To: "Kakki" ; "Joni Digest" Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 1:36 AM Subject: Happy Birthday > Happy Birthday Dearest Kakki. May you have many blessings this year > (including but not limited to, a Joni gathering or two). Gawd we missed you > this year at the fest. You would have love the performances and we had a > couple of cocktails. Have a very happy day and hope to talk to you soon. > > Love > > Paz and Kitty Tom (a new kitty that Julian just adopted who is sitting in my > lap purring like a lion) > > P.S. Jonifest report forthcoming as soon as I quit procrastinating. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:59:25 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday (NJC) In a message dated 8/15/2003 7:55:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, johnsonjs@earthlink.net writes: > I thought > your birthday was on the 18th. You're right Jody............Kakki's birthday is the 18th..........but we can start celebrating now. SO Happy ALMOST Birthday Kakki!!!! We sure did miss you this year. xoxo Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:03:19 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday HAPPY BIRTHDAY KAKKI!!!!! WE MISS YOU ROSIE IN NJ PS: BRUCE IS IN CALIFORNIA;~) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:19:22 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bubble bath as dust piled high ? In a message dated 8/14/2003 8:36:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hell@ihug.co.nz writes: > it meant the dust was so fine and piled so deeply, that it > feels like the suds of bubble bath - almost so fine that > you can't feel it. And because it's dirt under a bridge, it doesn't get rained on, so it stays dry and powdery and fine as opposed to gritty and mud-like. Dirt/sand like this is such that it almost becomes waterproof. Thanks Michael for picking out this lyric. It's a good example of Joni painting with words to describe something that's mundane yet very unique. Bob NP: U2, "The First Time" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:35:42 EDT From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: Bubble bath as dust piled high ? I don't know if i can explain it well, but to me that is one of my favorite parts of the song. having once been a young girl, i can relate to it as a secret place you would go with you best girlfriend. The other part i love is when they are putting their pennies under the trains. I did that myself with my friend, Patty, and we, too would jump around like fools saying "look, our lucy prize". Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:41:40 EDT From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: Clouds... I want to stir up that "notches liberation doll discussion" too Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:58:09 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Photos are up (NJC) !!! oh oh oh! Word would be *NOT*!! And thank you Azeem for the nudge. Kakki, feeling the effects of old age already, oy! ;-) > > I really regret getting the > > chance to meet you all in person. > > [ahem] > > :-) > > Azeem ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:17:31 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday (NJC) Thanks so much you all ! Yes, it is the 18th but I'm already in my birthday cups so to speak ;-) Getting primed to travel across the burning desert to meet the Dry Cleaner from Des Moines stacking the chips. I terribly missed seeing you all this year but feel there in spirit from your reports and photos. Love, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:41:37 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Banquet" > I can tell tell that Joni was > thinking very deeply about the meaning of life when she > wrote that song. Or maybe not as much about the 'meaning of life' and more about the unfairness of life, the disparity between the haves and the have-nots, the fat bellies & the hungry little ones. And as Joni has always connected with the seaside & the coast and seems to draw so much strength from that, she relates to the greedy ones who soil the beauty of the scene with bleach bottles, paper plates, oil pails, etc. It's been covered by Lani Hall, a very pretty straightforward vocal, and by Manfred Mann's Earth Band, an 80's pop version that takes some liberties with the words. And again we see this kind of reference: "Some watch their kids grow up" Which she wrote knowing that she would not have the opportunity. Bob NP: U2, "All Along The Watchtower" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:49:33 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Banquet" In a message dated 8/15/2003 12:41:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy writes: > she relates to the > greedy ones Yikes...this is not what I meant to say!!!! What I MEANT was that she takes the analogy of greed and relates THAT to the seaside...no flames please! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:58:23 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: happy birthday njc kakki have a wonderful birthday & lots of las vegas fun...hope you pull down the big one so you can retire & travel to your hearts content! kate www.katebennett.com > when I return from godforsaken Las Vegas (where my crazy childhood > friends have decided to take me for my birthday). Please send > vibes that I > win a jackpot so I can retire to the "garden" hee hee. > > Love, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:55:23 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: b-day & duck - njc Happy Birthday Kakki! And btw i heard that the duck has relocated to another pond close by, that's what Victor told me and he ought to know! love db >>> 8/14/2003 9:24:26 PM >>> Kakki writes: << the unsolicited AARP application appeared in the mail 2 weeks early and I promptly handed it off to an "older" friend who was interested in the discounts - God help us all LOL) >> Happy birthday, Kakki! (Or maybe I should wait for the BF to make it official.) And regarding AARP, it's not so much the age thing I mind -- although I do mind more than a little! -- it's the assumption that I am anywhere near able to retire. --Bob This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:57:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Constantly in the darkness, where's that at? njc Holy cripes. Our power just came on after being off since 4 p.m. yesterday. What a slice of life this has been. How's everyone in NYC, elsewhere in the NE US and the province of Ontario been doing? ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:12:52 +0100 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: Clouds Hi Emiliano, > I've just managed to have (HD)CD versions of Clouds, Mingus and... FTR! at last! > That internet is so great! I can remember my FTR album coming from London > through aimable intercession of some of my elder sister's friend... this has come from > Ontario, btw. Oh yeah the HDCD's are the definitive versions! > What's sounding on Roses Blue? the effect is similar to these banshee voices on > Nathan La Franeer, but it seems like some strings trembling in a frightening vibrato > (btw: scary way our SIQUOMB had on finishing firsts sides of her younger albums!) I'm quite sure it's a Mandolin! It comes in just at the right moment and I believe it is the only other instrument apart from Joni's guitar on that album, there for making Clouds Joni's most striped down album. > Well, I'll don't take no more time from you... by now :-) > I guess many of you have talked about these things in the past, so excuse if it's > annoying... as some of my sentences' syntax! Not at all. All the people I know (physically) can't stand me talking Joni so I save it all for you lot. Steve NP: I think I Understand - Joni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 14:17:14 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Shambala Mountain Center I don't remember this being posted here...Joni donated her song "Refuge Of The Roads" for this project: http://www.shambhalamountain.org/StupaCD.html I'm sure it's to honor her "friend of spirit", the same fellow in the T'log painting. I can never remember his name. If you're a Sting fan, he contributes a new song here that apparantly can't be found anywhere else. Bob NP: U2, "Peace On Earth" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 14:19:10 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: More on The Great Stupa CD Oh, I meant to mention that it's pretty cool when you look at the cover of the CD...Joni's name is set out in the largest typeface. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:46:12 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: More Jonifest musings (NJC) Forgot to mention a couple of things. Total admiration to Barbara Little who made it along, despite a broken back, in a full body brace. Did we get photos of the paint job that was done on that? Thanks to Marianne and Bree for the colour Joni portraits they were handing out, and FOR THE CHOCOLATE! Oh my word. Nearly glued my jaw shut on a bear claw. Most of all - thanks for the rocks! Marianne (I think) had made about 20 decorated rocks with choice Joni lyrics written on them, and people were invited to take them away with them. I wanted "No regrets Coyote" but it was far too heavy to go in my suitcase, so settled for "And the wax rolls down like tears" at half the size. When I said it felt like my luggage had rocks in on the way home - it was true! And thanks to everyone for being kind and generous hearted human beings - the perfect antidote to the real world and the poisonous people that often inhabit it. A few people have inquired about Strings: she's in Australia for the next six months now. If she does what she did last year, she'll be posting whimsical musings from time to time to people she knows by e-mail and to the Band website forums (at www.stryngs.com). Check by from time to time, and register if you want to talk to her on there. - --Chris Marshall NP: The last time I saw Richard. NPIMH: The last time I saw dickhead :) (Just been browsing the parodies section on jmdl.com, and was reminded of this one :) chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:00:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Happy Birthday NJC Hey! - Another Leo Birthday - ROAR Kakki !!! - It's your day! All the best to you from here on out! Martinis For Everyone!!! Woo Hooo!!! Peace, Susan Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:12:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Constantly in the darkness, where's that at? njc Geez Catherine, what that must have been like! ... Darkness - Darkness - no color, no contrast!? Weird aye? Hope you made it through okay though and remember step towards the light! Seriously hope your perishables survived - Mine didnt - since I came home from fest to discover I had accidentally left my fridge off! That was pretty - - DONT ASK! Peace, Susan Catherine McKay wrote: Holy cripes. Our power just came on after being off since 4 p.m. yesterday. What a slice of life this has been. How's everyone in NYC, elsewhere in the NE US and the province of Ontario been doing? ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:12:40 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: ...till it's gone njc oh dear dear colin! that the first one? it is QUITE a shock the first time. then you get used to it. DON'T pull it off. for each one you pull off you get seven more! use scissors. and congratulations on the weight loss. you see, i'm both overweight AND gray down there. wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de tantra-apso Enviado el: Viernes, 15 de Agosto de 2003 06:39 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: ...till it's gone njc wokeup, it was Chelsea, morning and the first thing i saw was I was down 60 lbs the second thing I saw-a grey pubic hair. oh well. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:24:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Constantly in the darkness, where's that at? njc --- Susan Guzzi wrote: > Geez Catherine, what that must have been like! ... > Darkness - Darkness - no color, no contrast!? Weird > aye? Hope you made it through okay though and > remember step towards the light! > > Seriously hope your perishables survived - Mine > didnt - since I came home from fest to discover I > had accidentally left my fridge off! That was > pretty - - DONT ASK! Fortunately, there weren't a lot of perishables left in the fridge - not necessarily a good thing either, since you couldn't go shopping for them either, since the stores had all lost their power. I went out earlier today in search of propane but couldn't find a station with power within a reasonable distance; plus driving was pretty surreal - no traffic lights and having to rely on other people to treat intersections like 4-way stops and not like the Indy. I was just out again a few moments ago since our power had come back on. Went into a grocery store that had full power, including A/C, which I thought was a no-no in this situation and managed to pick up milk. As I was paying, I asked the cashier how long they had had their power back on and she told me it had come on around 9 a.m. Ours just came on around 1:30 or 2. As soon as she said that, poof, out go the lights again. Had to drop off an overdue video at Blockbuster, and coming out, this insane woman coming on on a diagonal from the liquor store, just about ran right into me front-on. She was obviously paying all of her attention to the road she was trying to get onto, while not even noticing me. Now that was freaky! Now I expect we'll probably have a few hours of power, followed by another blackout. La-di-da and I don't think I'll be leaving home-base now at all until it's all over with, whenever that might be. Alternate energy sources, anyone? Cripes! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:42:51 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: photos NJC hi chris, thanks for posting the photos!! id like to ask a huge favor tho - if possible - a nice big zipfile posted somewhere with all the photos inside so people like me with really slow connections can download & enjoy without waiting for ages for each page to load????? ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:12:48 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: fest impressions hi first off id like to encourage anyone who is perhaps a little bit intimidated to attend. i can be incredibly nervous around strangers, but the whole beauty of the fest is there are no strangers. plenty of strange, but no strangers. for me to break out & spend all that time with people id never met before was incredibly difficult, but everyone made it so damn easy & just went out of their way to make me feel oh so welcome & a part of it all. somebody once said "i see something of myself in everone" and thats true. the joy of jonifest is seeing those rare parts which go down oh so deep, and which you hardly ever glimpse. and it is so on display, and so much of it. some people i just had to look at across the room to feel an instant connection with. so great to spend time with them later & find it was just so real, not imagination. as far as the music goes, the performances were amazing. the song circles turned up some beautiful performances, even if i sometimes battled to hear clearly, and the sessions at the pool room were just the highlight for me. sitting listening to the two music machines, victor and paz, as well as nikki, was just so relaxing and so mellow. plus getting to know the people there where the pace was relaxed & you could just lay back in the wonderful couch and talk............. and, of course, get some photos of the duckpond in the wee, wee hours of monday morning :-) (watch this space for news!!!) i got to listen to the stryngs cd on my way back home. this has to be quite possibly the first cd ive ever listened to where i reacted with such shock and disappointment and panic to the realisation that the cd had ended............ if you havent got this yet then what the hell are you waiting for?!?!?!?!? it is terrific, strings sings with such a depth of emotion, and has such a fresh and original way of expressing herself with such graphic and original similes and metaphors. if this is what the band can do on their first attempt, can you imagine when theyve had a bit of time to mature. expect big things. and a special thanks to martin giles. after he let me have a fiddle with his guitar, i just fell in love with it. when we got to NY cindy scaglione very kindly came shopping with me & i visited the shop kay recomended. of course, they had one in stock!!!! so now i am the very proud owner of what is quite possibly the most beautiful sounding instrument i have ever had the pleasure of hearing in my life!!!!!!!! see y'all next year.......................... ron npimh - lots and lots of very vivid memories ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:20:15 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: photos NJC On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 09:42 PM, ron wrote: > chris, thanks for posting the photos!! Oh, I didn't post them - I just provided the space. It's the photo owners who do all the legwork to upload them, crop, zoom, etc. > id like to ask a huge favor tho - if possible - a nice big zipfile > posted > somewhere with all the photos inside so people like me with really slow > connections can download & enjoy without waiting for ages for each > page to > load????? Well, it's possible, but don't underestimate the size of these things! Just my photos alone come to over 70Mb, which, any way you look at it, is going to take a loooooong time over a slow connection. The gallery software creates intermediate sized images at 640x480 so I'll see if there's an easy way to hook all those out at some point and make a smaller more manageable archive for people to download. They won't be much cop for printing out, but better than nothing. Cheers, - --Chris Marshall chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:34:17 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: ...till it's gone njc Wally Kairuz wrote: >oh dear dear colin! that the first one? it is QUITE a shock the first time. >then you get used to it. DON'T pull it off. for each one you pull off you >get seven more! use scissors. >and congratulations on the weight loss. you see, i'm both overweight AND >gray down there. >wally > > > good to know someone is reading Wally! I have been grey on my head since my 20's, still dark, but loads of gey now. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:41:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: fest impressions --- ron wrote: > hi > > first off id like to encourage anyone who is perhaps > a little bit intimidated > to attend. i can be incredibly nervous around > strangers, but the whole beauty > of the fest is there are no strangers. plenty of > strange, but no strangers. > > for me to break out & spend all that time with > people id never met before was > incredibly difficult, but everyone made it so damn > easy & just went out of > their way to make me feel oh so welcome & a part of > it all. Ron, your post was nicely worded & pretty much sums up my experience as well. I tend to be quite shy, despite my sometimes obnoxious posts to the list - I have a hard time meeting new people, or dealing with large groups of people. But I was made to feel at ease by everyone & had a lot of fun. It was great meeting you too, Ron, and congratulations on the new guitar - I'm jealous! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:49:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Godspell Poster - now a technical issue with adobe reader & pdf files --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Here's a link to the poster for our production of > Godspell: > > http://www.sjhigh.org/fine_arts/godspell_poster.pdf > > I'm thinking you have to have adobe acrobat to get > it as it's a pdf file. Speaking of adobe and pdf files, I've been having this problem with that for ages & it's driving me nuts. I had all that stuff on my PC, then I had some problems, which required me to get some stuff fixed and replaced & it hasn't been the same since. Now for some reason, I can't access pdf files. You should be able to download the reader free from their website - but I can't seem to even access the adobe website. I keep trying and I keep getting back a message that the page cannot be displayed & so on. This couldn't possibly be happening all the time so I figure there's something weird going on with my computer. I can access adobe's uk site, but I can't download the program - it won't let me. Has anyone ever run into such a thing before? It just doesn't make sense. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:16:25 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= Subject: Joni MItchell - Woman of Heart and Mind: a life story... in Europe 9/9 Hi, dears: this is a message specially dedicated to european (japanese & NearEastAsian, too) JoniNuts: I've just read in a french www page (no names today) that the Zone 2 DVD edition of WOHAM is going to be released day 9 september 2003! That's good news, indeed! Yours: Emiliano NP: The dry cleaner from Des Moines ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:35:29 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: Joni MItchell - Woman of Heart and Mind: a life story... in Europe 9/9 On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 11:16 PM, Emiliano Patiqo wrote: > I've just read in a french www page (no names today) that the Zone 2 > DVD edition of WOHAM is going to be released day 9 september 2003! Which, by Joni standards, makes something of a bumper crop what with the Shadows & Light re-release. - --Chris Marshall (saving pennies) chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:39:07 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: it's alive!!! hurrah, i'ts 7:25 pm and my neighborhood has power, finally!!! i have to say, joni has come up a lot in discussions in the last 27 hours of blackout. i wish more people in the new york places i've been hanging had guitars, and could play them like giselle. 'twould have been an easier 'great blackout of 2003'... this year, i've been a lot more brazen about saying where i was, and people really get it. before the power went yesterday, i was talking to a conductor, a possible client, who also plays percussion for the new york phil, a real avant garde new music guy, and when i mentioned joni mitchell he said 'that's so funny because i'm listening to joni mitchell right now on this 2-cd set of jaco pastorious' session work'. this must have just been released, because someone through a couple of copies into the raffle. has anyone heard this? it hasn't been discussed on list yet, as i remember... best to all of you, (and special thanks to roberto for the call. he was stuck in montrial last night) patrick np - giselle (god i love this woman) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:45:35 -0400 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: RE: fest impressions Hi Ron! One of the "drawbacks" - (I know what am I saying...lol...there really aren't any) but is that there is so much music and wonderful people that you don't get to spend time with everyone in the way you would like and I wish I got more chance to talk to you and some other festers as well. The late nights are always fun. I think after sleeping all day today I finally caught up...LOL! It's amazing to me the distances some people travel to come to fest and I think it is so wonderful to have so many people from differnt parts of the world. Oh and you couldn't be more right about Stryngs!!!!!!!!! I have been listening to the CD nonstop and I LOVE it! IT is just brilliant. Love Nikki > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of ron > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:13 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: fest impressions > > > hi > > first off id like to encourage anyone who is perhaps a little bit > intimidated > to attend. i can be incredibly nervous around strangers, but the > whole beauty > of the fest is there are no strangers. plenty of strange, but no > strangers. > > for me to break out & spend all that time with people id never > met before was > incredibly difficult, but everyone made it so damn easy & just went out of > their way to make me feel oh so welcome & a part of it all. > > somebody once said "i see something of myself in everone" and > thats true. the > joy of jonifest is seeing those rare parts which go down oh so > deep, and which > you hardly ever glimpse. and it is so on display, and so much of it. some > people i just had to look at across the room to feel an instant connection > with. so great to spend time with them later & find it was just > so real, not > imagination. > > as far as the music goes, the performances were amazing. the song circles > turned up some beautiful performances, even if i sometimes battled to hear > clearly, and the sessions at the pool room were just the highlight for me. > sitting listening to the two music machines, victor and paz, as > well as nikki, > was just so relaxing and so mellow. plus getting to know the people there > where the pace was relaxed & you could just lay back in the > wonderful couch > and talk............. > > and, of course, get some photos of the duckpond in the wee, wee hours of > monday morning :-) (watch this space for news!!!) > > i got to listen to the stryngs cd on my way back home. this has > to be quite > possibly the first cd ive ever listened to where i reacted with > such shock and > disappointment and panic to the realisation that the cd had > ended............ > if you havent got this yet then what the hell are you waiting > for?!?!?!?!? it > is terrific, strings sings with such a depth of emotion, and has > such a fresh > and original way of expressing herself with such graphic and > original similes > and metaphors. if this is what the band can do on their first > attempt, can you > imagine when theyve had a bit of time to mature. expect big things. > > and a special thanks to martin giles. after he let me have a > fiddle with his > guitar, i just fell in love with it. when we got to NY cindy > scaglione very > kindly came shopping with me & i visited the shop kay recomended. > of course, > they had one in stock!!!! so now i am the very proud owner of > what is quite > possibly the most beautiful sounding instrument i have ever had > the pleasure > of hearing in my life!!!!!!!! > > see y'all next year.......................... > > ron > npimh - lots and lots of very vivid memories ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:43:55 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: it's alive!!! On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 12:39 AM, patrick leader wrote: > this year, i've been a lot more brazen about saying where i was, and > people > really get it. before the power went yesterday, i was talking to a > conductor, a possible client, who also plays percussion for the new > york > phil, a real avant garde new music guy, and when i mentioned joni > mitchell > he said 'that's so funny because i'm listening to joni mitchell right > now on > this 2-cd set of jaco pastorious' session work'. this must have just > been > released, because someone through a couple of copies into the raffle. > > has anyone heard this? it hasn't been discussed on list yet, as i > remember... It's fairly new out - "Portrait Of Jaco... the early years". It has Hejira and Refuge Of The Roads listed. I haven't yet got this, but there's plenty of info over at www.jacopastorius.com for those that are interested. (And, hearteningly, a fair appreciation for Joni and her work in the discussion forums.) Glad to hear you're back online Patrick (and anyone else who's been caught by the power outage.) Regards, - --Chris Marshall chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:00:30 -0400 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: RE: MARY CHAPIN CARPENTER, SHAWN COLVIN, PATTY GRIFFIN AND DAR WILLIAMS njc OOOHHHHHHH I cannot wait to see this one!!!!!!!!!!! Too bad Dar won't be at the show near me. If anyone will be in Philly and wants to come along let me know I will definately be getting tickets to this one! Nikki > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Kate > Bennett > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:47 PM > To: Joni@Smoe. Org > Subject: MARY CHAPIN CARPENTER, SHAWN COLVIN, PATTY GRIFFIN AND DAR > WILLIAMS njc > > > BlankMARY CHAPIN CARPENTER, SHAWN COLVIN, PATTY GRIFFIN AND DAR > WILLIAMS TO > > LAUNCH NATIONAL FALL TOUR FOUR SINGER-SONGWRITERS: ON STAGE TOGETHER > > Songwriter US Tour Dates > > September 12 University Park, PA Penn State University > > September 13 Ledyard, CT Foxwoods Resort > > September 14 New York, NY Rumsey Playfield > > September 29 Pittsburgh, PA Benedum Center > > October 1 Albany, NY Palace Theater > > October 2 Springfield, MA Symphony Hall > > October 3 Boston, MA Wang Center > > October 4 Glenside, PA Keswick Theater* > > October 13 Chicago, IL Chicago Theater > > October 14 St Paul, MN O'Shaughnessy Theater > > October 15 Milwaukee, WI Pabst Theater > > October 17 Cleveland, OH Palace Theater > > October 18 Cincinnati, OH Tall Stacks Festival > > October 19 Columbus, OH Palace Theater > > October 26 Washington, DC Lincoln Theater > > October 27 Baltimore, MD Meyeroff Theater > > October 29 Richmond, VA Landmark Theater > > October 30 N. Charleston, SC Oyster Shell > > November 1 West Palm Beach, FL Kravis Center > > November 2 Sarasota, FL Van Wezel Perf. Arts Center > > November 12 Las Vegas, NV Cox Pavilion > > November 13 San Luis Obispo, CA Christopher Colvin Ctr. > > November 14 Santa Rosa, CA Luther Burbank Center > > November 15 SF, CA The Warfield > > November 16 Seattle, WA McCaw Hall > > November 17 Portland, OR Keller Auditorium > > *Dar will not be performing. Catie Curtis will join Mary Chapin Carpenter, > > Shawn Colvin and Patty Griffin. > > kate > www.katebennett.com > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which > had a name of Blank Bkgrd.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:01:55 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: song and celebration (jonifest) njc The 2003 Northeast Jonifest? . . . well, it was my first. . . . and. . . . . * . * * . . * * * * . * * . * *. . * * * . . . . * * . thank you . * . . . to you all. . * * . * * . . * . * . . * . * * . * * * . it was better than I could have imagined. . . . especially the warmth from all of you. . . and the musicians and eveyone who sang were out of this world! Joni would be so proud. AND IT WAS BETTER THAN WOODSTOCK 1969. . . okay, so I wasn't AT Woodstock but I still think it was better. . . . (after all, Joni was there) flowers all around planting a garden in my soul Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:22:45 -0400 From: "Heather" Subject: I'll be seeing you Hello kids! It is time for me to bid you all a fond farewell as I venture off into my new career. I thank you all for the laughs and endless information about Joni. In fact, I think I now know more about Joni than I ever really cared to know. Don't get me wrong but sometimes I wish I could go back to being a Joni virgin, so to speak... not knowing so much about her ... just listening to her music for the pure joy that it bought to me on a more simplistic level. I cherish all the friends I have made on the JMDL. You will always be in my heart and mind. I wish you all the very best with all that life has to give. Peace, happiness and, above all, love... Heather ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:04:01 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: I'll be seeing you May the force be with you wherever you may roam, Heather. Good luck in your new endeavor, and come back to jmdl anytime. Your e-voice will be missed. Randy Heather wrote: > Hello kids! > > It is time for me to bid you all a fond farewell as I venture off into my > new career. I thank you all for the laughs and endless information about > Joni. In fact, I think I now know more about Joni than I ever really cared > to know. Don't get me wrong but sometimes I wish I could go back to being a > Joni virgin, so to speak... not knowing so much about her ... just listening > to her music for the pure joy that it bought to me on a more simplistic > level. > > I cherish all the friends I have made on the JMDL. You will always be in my > heart and mind. > > I wish you all the very best with all that life has to give. > > Peace, happiness and, above all, love... > > Heather ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:10:06 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: ...till it's gone njc tantra-apso wrote: > I have been grey on my head since my 20's, still dark, but loads of gey now. > Is that how they're spelling it now? (sorry, I couldn't resist) RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:15:16 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: power outage (njc) For me, we had our power out for about 5 hours between 4 and 9pm. I live in upstate NY, south of Rochester. Anywho, NOW is a perfect opportunity for our president to deliver some kind of real energy policy. . . you know, pick up on what a valuable resourse ENERGY is, look how much we depend on it, etc. . .let's appreciate it and conserve it. . . . why not? When will this happen? How about a leader that encourages the nation to cut their energy consumption by a mere 10%? Is this too much to ask? Renewable energy sources anyone? Where's the difficulty? The priority? He has been passing up lots of oppotunities here. Now it's up to us. This reminds me. . . Patrick and I were talking about this on our walk back from the beautiful waterfall at the fest. The Native Americans believed in keeping in mind the next *seven-generations when ever making decisions, and in their general lifestyle. Anyway, Kay, Patrick and I went on this beautiful walk up the road from Full Moon. Patrick and I let Kay lead us through the rushing, yet gentle water/waterfall. When I looked up into the sky I realized I was really in the creavice of the earth and felt this was like the womb of the earth. . . you just go there Marianne _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:16:19 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: The Magdalene Asylums The Magdalene ASYLUMS? I feel a parody coming on! Whatever happened to fact checking? This is from a story at: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030806/ap_en_mo/wkd_nora_j ane_noone_2 While this is a fictionalized drama about the asylums, they've been the topic of a documentary ("Sex in a Cold Climate), a play ("Eclipsed") and a Joni Mitchell song ("The Magdalene Asylums"). --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:04:03 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Happy Birthday NJC Happy Birthday, Kakki !!!!!!!!!!! Hope you get 20 to 1 in the door of the john (& everywhere else)!! Randy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:10:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Happy - njc OK, so happy birthday. Even if it's early. If a person can be a day late and a dollar short, does that mean when they're several days ahead, they're ahead in the money too? Sounds good to me! Missed you at the fest, dahlink, but don't want to make you feel gloomy about it - there's always next year. A la prochaine! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:22:26 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC aftermath of JoniFest In a message dated 8/14/03 8:00:26 AM, SCJoniGuy writes: << And thanks too on Murphy's behalf for telling which mushrooms NOT to eat! :~) >> Hey, it's EASY for me to tell which mushrooms not to eat... I don't LIKE mushrooms so I don't eat ANY of them. ;-) Seriously, though... I can't emphasize enough how much I enjoyed being with you guys and I can't wait 'til next year. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:49:49 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Constantly in the darkness, where's that at? njc Catherine McKay wrote: > > Holy cripes. Our power just came on after being off > since 4 p.m. yesterday. What a slice of life this has > been. How's everyone in NYC, elsewhere in the NE US > and the province of Ontario been doing? Power was back on in my neighborhood about 6:15 pm, just as I was cursing Mr. Mayor about how if he says ONE MORE TIME how careful they're being about turning on the power, how very fragile it all is, how careful they have to be... I might just not vote for him next time (oh... yeah, he's a Republican, so not much of a threat there :-) but really just flip the damn switch dude. (It was hot hot hot with no relief and by late afternoon it was looking like it was going to be another hot and muggy and airless night.) When the lights went out yesterday, I was back in the city for an interview on the 16th floor of a building near Grand Central, so interview was cut short, people on the floor said the freight elevator was still running, my interviewer led me down stairs, around corners, and finally to the freight elevator, where the security guy told me he didn't want me to leave. So I asked if he'd rather I take the stairs, and he said he didn't want me going down those either. (What's up with that?) So, I was forced to pull out my cordial but imperious tone... I'm a visitor and I'm leaving, right now (as in, there will be NO discussion about it), and then the freight elevator came and I got on. What a relief getting out into open air. And as New Yorkers do, people were sharing information so I found out quickly it was a massive power outage. I walked over to Third Ave for a bus going uptown. Hundreds of other people had had the same idea and were waiting at the same bus stop, and when buses finally did come by, they were so packed they weren't even stopping so I decided to walk home, bought some bottled water for the journey, and headed north along with thousands of other people, kind of like 9/11 but without the emotional angst and not nearly as long a walk ahead of me. After experiences along the way (including being offered a cat), and about two miles later, I was glad to finally see my little street, and except for blisters on my feet from shoes not made for walking, am no worse for wear. And had time to get out the emergency supplies before the sun went down. So just another day in the big bad city. At nighttime, it was so weird to not be able to see even the hand in front of my face. It was so dark! And so quiet. There's always a hum to the city, a collective buzz, and it wasn't there last night. I tried to consider that peaceful but mostly it was disturbing. So dead feeling! I couldn't sleep. I guess I find the buzz comforting. One good thing is that my freezer is now thoroughly defrosted (there was no stopping it) and my kitchen floor is extraordinarily clean from the water that got all over it, plus all the food went into the trash, just as well since I'm heading out of the city again tomorrow. Anyway, now that I've had some time to catch up with some of the posts, it sounds like everyone had a great time at jonifest. Thanks for all the reports! I'm glad to hear the fest will continue... Take care all, Debra Shea in NYC ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #404 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)