From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #379 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, July 30 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 379 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Bush is so awful(NJC) [tantra-apso ] Re: Shameless self promotion (NJC) [tantra-apso ] Re: Check out By the dawn's early night - The Washington Times: Sports (njc) ["kakki" ] RE: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) [anne@sandstrom.com] whale rider & a wee bit JC [=?iso-8859-1?q?Ms=20M?= ] Re: good for business? njc [tantra-apso ] Re: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] New & Improved Vote njc [vince ] Re: Bush is so awful(NJC) [Jenny Goodspeed ] Re: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) [vince ] Re: yet another confession - jungle line [Jenny Goodspeed ] Re: NJC Whale Rider ["Music Is Special" ] RE: good for business? njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] The Bob Masse / Laura Nyro Commemorative Poster - NJC [Wtking59@cs.com] Bob Masse/ Laura Nyro Commemorative Poster (MORE) - NJC [Wtking59@cs.com] Re: Bush is so awful(NJC) ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Bush is so awful(NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: good for business? njc [tantra-apso ] laughing it all away njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: One of these things just doesn't belong here... ["ron" ] Re: "For Free" -> Joni as hypocrite? ["ron" ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] Meals at Jonifest ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Emmylou can write, njc [] Jungle Line [John Sprackland ] Re: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) ["Stephen Toogood" ] Re: whale rider & a wee bit JC [Randy Remote ] Re: One of these things just doesn't belong here... [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Jungle Line [tantra-apso ] july 30!!!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: yet another confession - jungle line & Bush [Randy Remote Subject: Re: Bush is so awful(NJC) Lori Fye wrote: >> >> > >I saw the funniest bumpersticker online recently: > >"I don't have a problem with God. It's his fan club I can't stand." > that would be my position! > > >OH yeah ... > >Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:32:38 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: Shameless self promotion (NJC) Congrats Hanet. itr ead it. It flows just liek real people. Thanks. Janet Hess wrote: > A short-short story I wrote has just been added to the Prairie Home > Companion website. Here's the link: > > http://www.prairiehome.org/private_wobegon/hess_030801.shtml > > A bio and a photo of me and Deanna follow the story. > > Cheerz, > > Janet and Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty, who hopes there are plenty of > fishy treats in Lake Woebegon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:22:24 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Check out By the dawn's early night - The Washington Times: Sports (njc) Sherelle, All that is happening for you these days is so fantastic and you certainly deserve it all! I think more and more people are going to be "discovering" you in the near future. Please continue to keep us all posted! All the best, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:18:54 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= Subject: Joni's unreleased shows... now in Europe Hi, JMDLers! This is a message specially aimed to people who lives in Europe (or Africa, or near Asia, too!) Thanks to kind Bob Muller, I've just received a pack of our SIQUOMB unreleased shows I'm ready to make copies of that wonderful stuff to any of you that are interested. Naturally, I'll only ask for the money that I'd spend in blanks and postage! Just to spread the joy! The list of my unreleased Joni is, by now: "Second Fret Sets" Philadelphia, PA; '66-'67; 2 CD "By the banks of the River Charles" Cambridge, MA; Jan '68; 1 CD Worcester Polytechnic Institute; Worcester, MA; 12/05/69; 2 CD "Sounds For Saturday" (Bootleg) BBC Radio 1; London; 05/26/72; 1 CD San Francisco Civic Auditorium; San Francisco, CA; 09/07-8/79; 3 CD Norman Lloyd Noble Center; Norman, OK; 06/29/83; 2 CD Troubadours of Folk, Los Angeles; 06/15/93; 1 CD "Reprise Music Show", Wells Fargo Theatre at The Gene Autry Museum; LA; 01/26/95; 1 CD Corel Center; Kanata, Ontario; 10/30/98; 2 CD Morning Becomes Eclectic (Joni Unplugged in the Radio Studio); 09/12/94; 1 CD Morning Becomes Eclectic (Joni Unplugged in the Radio Studio); 03/27/98; 1 CD Flotsam & Jetsam Volume #3 7 Philly Folk Fest 1968 7 Day After Day 7 Tough On Toxics 1988; 1 CD Flotsam & Jetsam Volume #4 (Gerdes Folk City 1967, John Peel's Top Gear 1968, Tom Jones Show 1970); 1 CD Flotsam & Jetsam #7 7 Rolling Thunder Revue, Toronto 12/1/75 & 12/2/75 7 "Our Common Future" 06/03/89 7 David Letterman show, 04/03/00 7 Brian Blade - Steadfast (Joni lead vocal) 7 Kyle Eastwood - Trouble Man (Joni lead vocal); 1 CD Unplugged & Jamming, Volume 2 (Misc. Live) 7 Last Waltz 7 Save The Whales '76 (1 song only) 7 Folklore TV w/Pete Seeger 7 Johnny Cash Show 1969-71 7 Tonight Show '95; 1 CD along with that ones I've offered yet: The White Swan, Leicester, Uk; 09/'67 1 CD, Joni & James, Royal Albert Hall, London; 10/28/1970; 1 CD l'Olympia, Paris; 06/15/'72; 2 CD (with 2 songs edited :-(, Los Angeles; 3/3/'74; 2CD The Spectrum, Philadelphia; 02/16/'76; 2 CD MSG, New York; 11/01/'98; 1 CD along with a bunch of unreleased songs, HOSL demoes, an hour long concert film of Joni in London '83 in .mpeg format, that Wall to Wall recordings (2 cd, details sent by Bob 5/17/03), and a "best of" covers: "sweet sixteen"! Sure mine's been a good hunting for gold, don't you? Many, many, many thanks to all of you for letting me feel part of this wonderful community and a million thanks to Bob Undercover King for so kindly (and efficiently) spreading this treasures! Have a Wonderful time: Emiliano NP: BYT, 06/29/'83 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:04:29 EDT From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Meals at Jonifest Just to start your mouths watering, (drooling, more like) and to make those not coming to Jonifest completely and totally jealous, (Sign up NOW, and you won't *have* to be jealous!!) here are the dinner menus for Jonifest 2003. The new chef at Full Moon is THE nicest guy, and THE best chef! Mags, Miranda and I ate his food for a whole week at Dance Camp last week, and we did NOT want to come home! There will be vegetarian/tofu dishes added here as well. :-) Hugs, Ashara THURSDAY NIGHT Ukrainian Borsch Cucumber and onion salad with fresh dill cream Coque au vin (fresh chicken and wine) Cedar smoked salmon with green onion coulis Roasted red potatoes with rosemary Swiss chard almondine Fresh cheesecake with raspberry sauce FRIDAY NIGHT Roasted corn and polenta bisque Baby wild greens with feta cheese Whole roasted rainbow trout Wild mushroom ragout Duck confit Quesadilla Wild rice pilaf Belgian chocolate profiteroles SATURDAY NIGHT Asparagus and truffle soup Fresh romaine with apples and blue cheese Fresh broiled talapia filet Eggplant polenta turrine with squash and chevre Chick pea karma with spinach and curry Broccoli and maple sauce Puffed pastry and blueberry napoleon with fresh cream SUNDAY NIGHT Forest mushroom broth Caesar salad Veal osso bucco (roasted shank) with mint gremolata Chicken cordon bleu with roquefort and Italian ham Green beans and candied walnuts Polenta gnocci with sage cream Arborio rice creme caramel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:32:10 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: good for business? njc we recently bought a fridge/freezer from a local company, and had planned with them to also buy a new washing machine and a new oven. The fridge/freezer was duly delivered minus one of it's feet, just a small plastic thing. I asked them to acquire one for me. this was 2 weeks ago. Today i called them about this foot(without it the f/f leans forward a lot). The man asked to hold the line and then i heard him say'it's that queer about the f/f foot'. That word cost them a lot of money. Or at least the profits from the oven and washer. A happy ending: i phoned the manufacturer direct and they are sending me the foot first class post, free of charge. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:35:08 -0700 (PDT) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: RE: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) Bob M wrote: I don't think the problem is religion as much as it is the dumbing down and gullibility of the average American, mere putty in the media's hands. I don't know about the religion part, but we surely are "played" by the media, who, I believe, are heavily shall we say influenced by the government, even if indirectly. (There was no criticism of the Bush admin on network news until after the FCC ruling.) And, am I the only person who found the video of the Hussein brothers in extremely poor taste? Skeptical me thinks that was more for U.S. citizens' benefit than for the Iraqis. And, getting back to religion, as despicable as they were, have we made a huge mistake by not honoring Muslim burial rights? (and, finally, just four guys held off the entire U.S. Army for four hours??? Your typical urban S.W.A.T. team would have been in there in 20 minutes! What's up with that?) OK, sorry for the rant. I just had to finally share with someone. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:49:48 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ms=20M?= Subject: whale rider & a wee bit JC Hi Scottish Maggie here, a newbie who has been lurking after diving in several weeks ago. I am glad to hear postive stuff about "Whale Rider" and I am even more determined to see it now, before it leaves Glasgow. I read the book as I traveled down to the South Island, NZ in 1990, we went on a Whale and Dolphin watching tour which was run by an enterprising Maori family and we saw "Hector" Doplphins, have you seen them Hell? I miss NZ it was my home for over six years and a wonderfull healing place to be. Half my family still out there. (but there aint no Dingos, bl**dy big possums though and the Weta is possibly the ugliest insect I have ever seen) All this talk of HOSL. It was the first Joni album I got into and I worked backwards from there to Blue and the earlier ones. I was "aware " of her, but before I found her through HOSL I had no idea just what a hugely talented woman she was. Sorry but I have to admit the earlier stuff was way to folky for me, which is why it passed me by, ( up to FTR and C&S) so HOSL was a real ear opener. And I love the drums on jungle line. But especially the story of Edith and the Kingpin it still has that haunting sadness after thousands of listenings, something about HOSL inspires that movie in your head to run some interesting pictures, usually glossy seventies ones! I hope you all have a good fest, if I was not so financially poor I would come out there, but I canny sing anyway (?) so maybe your lucky. Can anyone tell me their thoughts on this : do you think 42 is to old to try and learn guitar? I come from a very musical family, but I struggled with learning music while trying the piano. Am I dotty and is this the begining of a long and sad regression as part of my mid life crises? Or am I just inspired and a bit awed reading all your muso musings on the list? (-; Help me I think I'm.... Take care Metta Maggie in(V sunny today !!) ALBA ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:49:35 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: good for business? njc Colin wrote:- > The man asked to hold the line and then i heard him > say'it's that queer about the f/f foot'. Seethe. They deserve their windows smashed for that sort of thing. Stupid bastards obviously don't appreciate (a) what good customer service can do for them or (b) the fact that surveys suggest that "queers" have higher disposable income per capita than straights. Makes me really bloody angry, this sort of thing. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:15:02 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: good for business? njc Chris Marshall wrote: >Colin wrote:- > > >> The man asked to hold the line and then i heard him >>say'it's that queer about the f/f foot'. >> >> > >Seethe. They deserve their windows smashed for that >sort of thing. > well I wouldn't recommend that, having experienced that many times. tho i certainly understand the wanting to! > Stupid bastards > exactly! > obviously don't appreciate >(a) what good customer service can do for them > too stupid > or (b) the >fact that surveys suggest that "queers" have higher >disposable income per capita than straights. > they wouldn't understand either-too stupid. > >Makes me really bloody angry, this sort of thing. > me too tho I feel better for withdrawing my business and not pretending I didn't hear it..... > >--Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:27:12 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) In a message dated 7/30/2003 8:35:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, anne@sandstrom.com writes: > And, am I the only person who found the video of the > Hussein brothers in extremely poor taste? Well no, of course not...I mean, just stop and think of how we feel when we see photos/video of an American reporter, soldier, etc. being tortured or killed. Then again, one of the Three Great Stimulants is "Brutality", right? We rushed in to attack because of WMD's (which so far don't exist), because of imported uranium (which was definitely bogus and was known to be), because of ties to Al-Qaeda (more whipped-up political BS), and then finally justified because "well, Saddam was just a bad brutal guy"...well, we're proving to be just as brutal. Manifest Destiny may have worked on the native Americans, but it's not going to play well in the Middle East. Bob NP: "Godspell" soundtrack...rehearsals start tomorrow! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:30:09 -0400 From: vince Subject: New & Improved Vote njc Dear VoteToImpeach Member, Have you seen the new and improved VoteToImpeach.org web site? 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Lori "Now I used to think that I was cool running around on fossil fuel, until I saw what I was doing was driving down the road to ruin..." JT Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:40:32 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) we had the house surrounded ina country we occupy and we didn't waste 20 minutes before we killed everyone inside of it.. Why not surround it and consider it any situation where the authorities wait those those surrounded. We could have starved them out or whatever, and put them on trial for war crimes of which it is said they are so guilty, except of course the small problem that the Bush administration will not sign the paperwork making us a part of the international crimes against humanity court. (To be fair, neither did Clinton, but Clinton has not been threatening the countries of "New Europe" with sanctions if they participated in it - source, NPR yesterday) So instead we killed everyone inside. And by showing the pictures of the two dead children of Saddam - upon which others have commented - what is ignored is our slaughtering of the 13-14 year old grandson of Saddam. We gunned down a young teen ager instead of doing whatever we could to have him surrender alive. I detest war and my contempt for Bush is beyond my ability to say. anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > >And, am I the only person who found the video of the >Hussein brothers in extremely poor taste? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: yet another confession - jungle line What a great description of HOSL, Bob. Re: Jungle Line - the drums sounded so awful and distorted on my LP - I couldn't enjoy it. It's less noticeable on the CD, but still to me they sound as if they were recorded poorly. Do any audiophiles out there have an opinion on this? Jenny SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/28/2003 9:52:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jrgoodspeed@yahoo.com writes: > Such a silly girl I was. Maybe so, but look at the bright side - you've got a NEW Joni CD to enjoy, and a DARN GOOD ONE at that! :~) I can't believe so many bristle at "The Jungle Line". I've always found in fascinating & haunting, like much of HOSL, one thing on the surface, but when you start digging...oh my. Starting with the cover art to her 'mysterious message' inside to the last notes of 'Shadows & Light'. Matter of fact, I almost feel like that was the intention with the song sequencing...let's bait them with a piece of 'Court & Spark'ish pop, like "France", then nail them with something unlike anything they've heard before...Toto, we're not in the city of angels anymore! Then from there Joni seemingly begins the exposition, the tour of the nightspots and the seedy characters, the decaying and broken relationships, the unfulfilled dreams. A series of songs that seem to flow seamlessly from one to the next. Young love kissing in cars slithers away like mouthpiece spit. Every picture has its shadows, and it has some source of light. Bob NP: The Sundays, "so much" "Now I used to think that I was cool running around on fossil fuel, until I saw what I was doing was driving down the road to ruin..." JT Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:03:13 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: whale rider & a wee bit JC In a message dated 7/30/2003 8:50:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, athene_13_1999@yahoo.com writes: Welcome Scottish Maggie! You're right on about Edith and the Kingpin. It's definitely a Joni song which runs through your head like a movie. I see a young Al Pacino playing the part of the Kingpin (probably because of "Scarface") > Can anyone tell me their thoughts on this : do you think 42 > is to old to try and learn guitar? SURE!!! Michael Paz was 56 when he learned to play guitar, and he's pretty darn good now :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Larry D." Subject: Re: Court & Spark, etc. Just in the spirit of putting in one's tuppence worth: I've never been a huge fan of Blue (which I realize most people consider JM's pinnacle), and C&S continues to be my favorite. I prefer C&S and HOSL to Blue (which I place pretty much neck-and-neck with Hejira as fine albums). And I really like Chalk Mark quite a lot. Only Cool Water and Reoccuring Dream leave me a bit cold. Flawed as DED is, there's enough good there (title song, Shiny Toys, Lucky Girl) that I'd never consider frisbeeing. Same with DJRD: Cotton Avenue, Otis & Marlena, Dreamland, worth the price of admission. I don't think any of Joni's albums should be dismissed out of hand. Even Mingus, which is my least favorite, has Porkpie Hat and Dry Cleaner. Even if I don't like an entire album, there's always something worth putting into a compilation CD! Peace, Larry D www.larry-d.com NP: Roberta Flack, Just Like A Woman Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:19:43 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: you missed the trick I agree with you Wally about C&S being inferior to both Blue & Hejira. HOSL is a far better album & "Jungle Line" never bothered me musically--lyrically is another question I don't want to get into right now. DJRD has its moments, but there's a lot of dross on it. Perhaps not too uncommon, I wnated to turn both Chalk Mark and Dog into frisbees, but I refrained. Still can't bear to listen to 'em ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:03:25 -0500 From: "Music Is Special" Subject: Re: NJC Whale Rider I agree its a wonderful film. Roger Ebert wrote a really good review on it which I enjoyed reading. Go see it - it is so much better than the current blockbusters. Even if your kids are more partial of Pirates of the Carib, as mine is, I would still bring them. e ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:29:02 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: good for business? njc and i have just received a mail from a straight *friend*, a message that was forwarded to 2 million people on his address book, with "how to know if you're a fag" on the subject line. most offensive thing i've seen in years. end of friendship. wally ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:56:46 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: The Bob Masse / Laura Nyro Commemorative Poster - NJC Return-Path: Received: from rly-xi01.mx.aol.com (rly-xi01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.6]) by air-xi02.mail.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILINXI22-4c43f2421f4a0; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:03:30 -0400 Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by rly-xi01.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXI110-4c43f2421f4a0; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:03:17 -0400 Received: from thecount.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.22]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19gqnU-0004AH-00; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:03:08 -0700 Received: from [207.217.78.203] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Sun Jul 27 12:03:08 PDT 2003 Message-ID: <4514803.1059332588719.JavaMail.nobody@thecount.psp.pas.eart hlink.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:48:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Donald Boudreau To: JamesP.green@verizon.com, JamesP.Green@verizon.com, earl.gutnick@mnhs.org, tsoul@ubmail.ubalt.edu, emarciano@aol.com, opnims@freeuk.com, CamBonito@aol.com, RampurRed@aol.com, noraj3935@aol.com, alfie@libero.it, elsan@comcast.net, CherylRicher@hotmail.com, DSHEPHARD@CHUBB.COM, nyrofans@aol.com, Copax7@yahoo.com, cpleva@umich.edu, aartvark@charter.net, dej585@aol.com, luckylindy@mymailstation.com, shellyhope3@hotmail.com, EKim349002@aol.com, Ekim349002@aol.com, Carol14catz@yahoo.com, Carolcat@earthlink.net, rdalli@optonline.net, robinson@wblib.org, stephens@accutek.com, chriscolella@hotmail.com, tomcat03@earthlink.net, sbruce@psg.ussf.edu, Pagano@cloud9.net, atomicjones@hotmail.com, Tomadams@shaw.ca, crovet@aol.com, brian.miller@chanelusa.com, kputnamus@yahoo.com, Elenarodriguez@earthlink.net, coraljc@earthlink.net, wtking59@cs.com, SandraBee@aol.com, tcamilletti@jga.com, blueforkkim@aol.com, phaskins@swbwll.net, GDJ1231@AOL.COM, Steve_rianda@hp.com, Steverianda!hp.com@unspecified-domain, matzagirl@aol.com, jserkes@aol.com, songanddancewoman@hotmail.com, Oderman@tfw.net, jrose@ci.oswego.or.us, Fnovinseit@aol.com, MFK46@aol.com, dorik@earthlink.net, donnaboudreau@usa.net, sjleibel@aol.com, jbschutz@alum.mit.edu, NinaSalk@aol.com, wtking59@cs.com, nyro@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Bob Masse Laura Nyro Commemorative Poster Cc: bob@bmasse.com, denknee@city-net.com, dboudreau@earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 X-AOL-IP: 207.217.120.232 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain
[demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type APPLICATION/MSWORD which had a name of Laura Nyro Poster Reservations Letter_27 July 03.doc] [IMAGE] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type APPLICATION/MSWORD which had a name of Laura Nyro Poster Reservations Letter_27 July 03.doc] [IMAGE] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:57:53 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Bob Masse/ Laura Nyro Commemorative Poster (MORE) - NJC Return-Path: Received: from rly-xk04.mx.aol.com (rly-xk04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-xk04.mail.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILINXK44-5913f24225418b; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:05:37 -0400 Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by rly-xk04.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXK45-5913f24225418b; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:04:53 -0400 Received: from thecount.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.22]) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19gqo6-0001JH-00; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:03:46 -0700 Received: from [207.217.78.203] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Sun Jul 27 12:03:46 PDT 2003 Message-ID: <5392937.1059332626520.JavaMail.nobody@thecount.psp.pas.eart hlink.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:49:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Donald Boudreau To: JamesP.green@verizon.com, JamesP.Green@verizon.com, earl.gutnick@mnhs.org, tsoul@ubmail.ubalt.edu, emarciano@aol.com, opnims@freeuk.com, CamBonito@aol.com, RampurRed@aol.com, noraj3935@aol.com, alfie@libero.it, elsan@comcast.net, CherylRicher@hotmail.com, DSHEPHARD@CHUBB.COM, nyrofans@aol.com, Copax7@yahoo.com, pelava@umich.edu, aartvark@charter.net, dej585@aol.com, luckylindy@mymailstation.com, shellyhope3@hotmail.com, Ekim349002@aol.com, Carol14Katz@yahoo.com, Carolcat@earthlink.net, rdalli@optonline.net, robinson@wblib.org, stephens@accutek.com, chriscolella@hotmail.com, tomcat03@earthlink.net, sbruce@bsg.ussf.edu, Pagano@cloud9.net, atomicjones@hotmail.com, Tomadams@shaw.ca, crovet@aol.com, brian.miller@chanelusa.com, kputnamus@yahoo.com, Elenarodriguez@earthlink.net, coraljc@earthlink.net, wtking59@cs.com, SandraBee@aol.com, tcamilletti@jga.com, blueforkkim@aol.com, phaskins@swbell.net, GDJ1231@AOL.COM, Steve_rianda@hp.com, Steverianda@hp.com, matzagirl@aol.com, jserkes@aol.com, songanddancewoman@hotmail.com, Oderman@tfw.net, jrose@ci.oswego.or.us, Fnovinseit@aol.com, MFK46@aol.com, dorik@earthlink.net, donnabousreau@usa.net, sj@unspecified-domain, eibel@aol.com, jbschutz@alum.mit.edu, NinaSalk@aol.com, wtking59@cs.com, nyro@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Bob Masse/ Laura Nyro Commemorative Poster_First Draft_Black & White Cc: bob@nmasse.com, dboudreau@earthlink.net, denknee@city-net.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 X-AOL-IP: 207.217.120.50 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain ATTACHED PLEASE FIND COPY OF BLACK AND WHITE FIRST ROUGH DRAFT OF THE BOB MASSE LAURA NYRO COMMEMORATIVE POSTER. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of laura rough.jpg] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of laura rough.jpg] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of laura rough.jpg] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of laura rough.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:08:46 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Bush is so awful(NJC) >> "I don't have a problem with God. It's his fan club I can't stand." > > But where do I fit in (not that I ever do...)? Let me amend the bumpersticker to read: "I don't have a problem with God. It's his fan club I can't stand ... Except for Bob Muller (and Vince and many others who are special to me)." : ) > I don't think the problem is religion as much as it is the dumbing > down and gullibility of the average American You're absolutely right about that, Bob. And the Administration is adding to the terror (not to mention profiting) by playing on that ignorance. Vote Bush Out. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:13:04 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bush is so awful(NJC) In a message dated 7/30/2003 1:08:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com writes: > Let me amend the bumpersticker to read: LOL Lori! But then the print on the bumpersticker gets so fine that nobody can read it! Maybe you should just stick with the one that says: "Mean People Suck" Bob NP: Talking Heads, "(Nothing But) Flowers" a response to BYT perhaps? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:28:48 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: good for business? njc isn't it hurtful when you discover a str8 person you cared for turns out to be bigot too? Many eyars ago we wree friends with a str8 couple-until Clause 28 and finding out they supported it to 'protect their children'. Wally Kairuz wrote: >and i have just received a mail from a straight *friend*, a message that was >forwarded to 2 million people on his address book, with "how to know if >you're a fag" on the subject line. most offensive thing i've seen in years. >end of friendship. >wally ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:14:24 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: laughing it all away njc >I'm in God's fan club, but I'm not part of those who splash their beliefs or push their ways in people's faces.... It is just what Joni was singing about in Roses Blue. I think she is right, that if we keep laughing we will win...<< dr. laura i love that phrase! me too! but i've always seen that relationship as so deeply personal...speaking of bumper stickers (didn't someone recently? bob?)... the one i like says: "the christian right is neither" kate www.katebennett.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:12:52 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: One of these things just doesn't belong here... hi >>>>>>>>>suze cameron wrote >>>>>>>>This is interesting to me because knowing Joni there must almost be a method to why each song appears on specific albums, except, of course, DJRD, which she herself admitted to "not getting". So, which song doesn't belong? well, as much as i fell in love with the all the rest of DJRD on first listen, (tho i still dont "get" most of what its about) the one song which just does not work for me is the dreaded "tenth world" ron np = bowie - space oddity (original version) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:52:38 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Shameless self promotion (NJC) a wonderful & poignant story, thanks janet! >A short-short story I wrote has just been added to the Prairie Home Companion website. Here's the link: http://www.prairiehome.org/private_wobegon/hess_030801.shtml< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:17:19 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: "For Free" -> Joni as hypocrite? hi ok - so im going back a while. but this one been working on my mind for quite some time now so id like to have another 2 cents worth :-) firstly a Non joni story, but quite relevant. about someone playing real good for free & winding up on an album. he was credited on the album, and the musician is very open about what an effect he had on the track in question - but i really wonder if he got paid??? never heard that part of the story. one of our local musicians here, who's been around since the 60's & is a local legend is Brian Finch. while recording his second to last album in durban, him & the producer (name of david marks) were relaxing on the balcony. down the road comes someone playing a unique local instrument. i cant remember the name for it now (& im too lazy to look it up) but it consists of a 5 litre (i guess 1 gallon in the US) oil can with a wooden neck attached, & a sound hole cut into it. similar the "afri-can" guitar mentioned on the list a while back, but it only has one string (ususally fishing line) & is played with a combination of bowing and plucking. quite an unusual sound but quite striking all in all. 'cours - it doesnt take much imaf\gination to see where this is going!!! brian & david look at each other, the same thought flashes between them, and next thing the guy knows hes whipped into the studio, and busy recording. the finished product can be heard at http://www.samp3.com/artists_e_k.html artist name - brian finch, song name orang utang. its the great sound on the intro and the end of the song, and just works so perfectly!!! (rest of the album "hero of heroes" is pretty damn good too :-) ok - so now onto joni contenet. ive been thinking about this for a while. then with all the talk recently about HOSL i popped it into the car on the way home tonight. and up pops "Boho Dance" well, talk about the perfect response to the criticism of "for free". yet again i am stunned at how well and how perfctly joni can sum things up!!!! i had the song on repeat all the way home - enough for 6 repeats - which is the best way ive found to appreciate jonis music. discussion thought repeated listenings repeat for at least 20 years then start again............. i mean - just read the lyrics "Down in the cellar in the Boho zone I went looking for some sweet inspiration, oh well Just another hard time band With Negro affectations I was a hopeful in rooms like this When I was working cheap It's an old romance the Boho dance It hasn't gone to sleep But even on the scuffle The cleaner's press was in my jeans And any eye for detail Caught a little lace along the seams And you were in the parking lot Subterranean by your own design The virtue of your style inscribed On your contempt for mine Jesus was a beggar, he was rich in grace And Solomon kept his head in all his glory It's just that some steps outside the Boho dance Have a fascination for me A camera pans the cocktail hour Behind a blind of potted palms And finds a lady in a Paris dress With runs in her nylons You read those books where luxury Comes as a guest to take a slave Books where artists in noble poverty Go like virgins to the grave Don't you get sensitive on me 'Cause I know you're just too proud You couldn't step outside the Boho dance now Even if good fortune allowed Like a priest with a pornographic watch Looking and longing on the sly Sure it's stricken from your uniform But you can't get it out of your eyes Nothing is capsulized in me On either side of town The streets were never really mine Not mine these glamour gowns now where do i begin with comments??? i reckon i could write pages, and pages on this song. but what im gonna do is just point out some of the passages i just love verse 2 - "and any eye foe detail, caught a little lace alomg the seams" oh yeah!!!! doesnt that just sum up so much about her, her dress, her words, her music, her paintings. keep an eye open for that detail and appreciate it. the little touches and flourishes adorning something that seems just plain and everyday. and the beauty of it is the intimacy for those that see it. its a shared, private moment, where she exposes something about herself. And you were in the parking lot Subterranean by your own design The virtue of your style inscribed On your contempt for mine heh, heh, what can you say about *this* gem. except maybe "touche"(with a squiggle on the e) Like a priest with a pornographic watch Looking and longing on the sly Sure it's stricken from your uniform But you can't get it out of your eyes ohh, ouch, that one goes down to the bone. how many of those critics of jonis taste for the trappings of succes ("And I miss my clean white linen and my fancy French cologne") are just plain jealous of her???? i know there are exceptions. as i understand it jaco, very close to her, was one of those who never had much time for luxuries (tho maybe im wrong on this). but hey he didnt seem to have any problem with her tastes or regard her as anything lesser because of them :-) also - now i know perhaps im loading in too much for one mail. how many people find that youll listen to other music for quite some time, and really enjoy it. then when you put joni back on again, its like it just makes all the other stuff pale by comparison. gives you a yardstick by which to appraise other music. feels like youre coming home again. like youve been blinded but now you see the light (ok - its a cliche - im no joni when it comes to expressing what i really feel) its like a drink of fresh water when youre really thirsty but havent consciously realised it 'cause youve been distracted by other thing............... oh wow, better shuttup now....... ron np - brian finch - orangutang ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:28:48 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Meals at Jonifest Where is the beans ..rice and cornbread? HUH?! Just Kidding! Sounds delish!! Bree >From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com >Reply-To: NortheastJonifest@yahoogroups.com >To: NortheastJonifest@yahoogroups.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: [NortheastJonifest] Meals at Jonifest >Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:04:29 EDT > >Just to start your mouths watering, (drooling, more like) and to make those >not coming to Jonifest completely and totally jealous, (Sign up NOW, and >you >won't *have* to be jealous!!) here are the dinner menus for Jonifest 2003. >The >new chef at Full Moon is THE nicest guy, and THE best chef! Mags, Miranda >and I >ate his food for a whole week at Dance Camp last week, and we did NOT want >to >come home! There will be vegetarian/tofu dishes added here as well. :-) > >Hugs, >Ashara > >THURSDAY NIGHT > >Ukrainian Borsch >Cucumber and onion salad with fresh dill cream >Coque au vin (fresh chicken and wine) >Cedar smoked salmon with green onion coulis >Roasted red potatoes with rosemary >Swiss chard almondine >Fresh cheesecake with raspberry sauce > >FRIDAY NIGHT > >Roasted corn and polenta bisque >Baby wild greens with feta cheese >Whole roasted rainbow trout >Wild mushroom ragout >Duck confit >Quesadilla >Wild rice pilaf >Belgian chocolate profiteroles > >SATURDAY NIGHT > >Asparagus and truffle soup >Fresh romaine with apples and blue cheese >Fresh broiled talapia filet >Eggplant polenta turrine with squash and chevre >Chick pea karma with spinach and curry >Broccoli and maple sauce >Puffed pastry and blueberry napoleon with fresh cream > >SUNDAY NIGHT > >Forest mushroom broth >Caesar salad >Veal osso bucco (roasted shank) with mint gremolata >Chicken cordon bleu with roquefort and Italian ham >Green beans and candied walnuts >Polenta gnocci with sage cream >Arborio rice creme caramel > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:57:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) --- anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > And, am I the only person who found the video of the > Hussein brothers in extremely poor taste? No, you certainly are not. Why don't we just bring back public hangings while we're at it? I'm appalled. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:09:25 -0400 From: Subject: Emmylou can write, njc I imagine everyone has already made up their own mind about "RED DIRT GIRL" by now. I'll weigh in anyway because it's been on infinity repeat at my desk for 16 hours so far this work week. Here's a verse about Lillian, who lived a little south-east of Meridian. "Indian" is the brand name of a 40's era motorcycle. Emmylou said, > She loved her brother. I remember back when he was fixing a '49 Indian. He told her, "Little sister, gonna ride the wind, up around the moon and back again." He never got farther than Vietnam. I was standin' there with her when the telegraph come for Lillian. > Okay, she said, "When the telegraph come" which is not Queen's English but it's probably acceptable usage for a red dirt girl. I mean it's not like Neil Diamond saying "Songs she brang to me" is it? Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:09:01 +0100 From: John Sprackland Subject: Jungle Line 'The Jungle Line was my intro to joni back in 75. i heard it on the radio and the next day bought THOSL.' The Jungle Line was my gateway to Joni, too - I can still remember stepping out of the bath (sorry, is that too much detail?) as it began to play on the David 'Kid' Jensen show on BBC Radio One. I didn't rush out and buy the album immediately (at 14 or 15 I was too poor... damn it, I still am at 41!) - I got a chance to listen to it while helping a girlfriend to babysit (... I will spare you those details!)... then I rushed out and bought it! John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:10:43 +0100 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) I felt very sick after seeing those pictures in the paper. The press don't seem to know where to draw the line. I wish I had kept to not reading the paper. Very disturbing. Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine McKay" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:57 PM Subject: RE: Bush is so awful (njc) (pc) > --- anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > > And, am I the only person who found the video of the > > Hussein brothers in extremely poor taste? > > No, you certainly are not. Why don't we just bring > back public hangings while we're at it? I'm appalled. > > > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:11:06 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: whale rider & a wee bit JC Ms M wrote: > Can anyone tell me their thoughts on this : do you think 42 > is to old to try and learn guitar? I come from a very > musical family, but I struggled with learning music while > trying the piano. I think it is easier to learn guitar than piano. For one thing, you don't even need to learn music per se; 95% of guitar players can't read a note! Ask around, it's true.... Also, some people have affinity for a certain instrument more than others. I can barely make a sound on a flute, other people I know have been able to pick it up and make it sound pretty good without any previous experience. You are not too old, but be realistic. It may take you a year of daily practice to get to the point where you are doing it smoothly. Try to find a teacher that doesn't get you hung up on learning music theory. If you learn the basic chords, you can start having fun with it fairly quickly, and if you want to get into theory, you can do it once your hands are getting used to playing. You can also get a basic chord book or chart, and get started yourself without a teacher. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:17:18 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: One of these things just doesn't belong here... In a message dated 30/07/2003 19:11:45 GMT Daylight Time, flopit@mweb.co.za writes: > np = bowie - space oddity (original version) > Wow, Ron - a true, hardcore Bowiephile! Complete with stylophone, eh? Good on you! Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:24:47 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: Jungle Line John Sprackland wrote: >'The Jungle Line was my intro to joni back in 75. i heard it on the >radio and the next day bought THOSL.' > >The Jungle Line was my gateway to Joni, too - I can still remember >stepping out of the bath (sorry, is that too much detail?) as it began >to play on the David 'Kid' Jensen show on BBC Radio One. > so I am not the only one. I heard it on radio victory, portsmouth, england. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:24:02 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: july 30!!!! njc oh my god! it's debra's birthday today and the BF has already left the room! will you accept my earthling's greetings debra? HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEBRA! love, wally ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:37:13 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: yet another confession - jungle line & Bush Jenny Goodspeed wrote: > Re: Jungle Line - the drums sounded so awful and distorted on my LP - I couldn't enjoy it. It's less noticeable on the CD, but still to me they sound as if they were recorded poorly. > > Do any audiophiles out there have an opinion on this? I agree that they are distorted. Was it on purpose? Or did they end up with a bad recording and decide to use it anyway? I think the distortion works pretty well as an effect. RR ps Bush sucks and is a war criminal and a traitor who knowingly sent our country to war under false pretenses. Let's see if that's as important as lying about a blow job....hmmm..let me think..... pps Iraq war: currently 1 billion $ per week. Human casualties: priceless. ppps On Meet the Press they said it could go on for months or years, and we will need to send more young men and women over there. Sound familiar? pppps At least it diverts media attention from the big "free trade" giveaways currently underway, the gutting of pollution laws, civil liberties, etc etc ppppps They're not gonna fix it up too easy...... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #379 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)