From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #370 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, July 24 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 370 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC Re: Joni & Steely Dan (little jc) njc [PassScribe@aol.com] NJC (Neil Young at the Hard Rock) [PassScribe@aol.com] Woodstock... ["Victor Johnson" ] sorry... ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: send in the clowns ["mack watson-bush" ] Jaco/Joni connection ["Suze Cameron" ] Steely Dan (njc) ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] "Is That All There Is?" and "Both Sides Now" sjc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu"] Re: Royalties NJC ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Hi Ya'll ["Suzanne MarcAurele" ] Remembrances ["Kerry Berghoff" ] Re: who's the dude. NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Jaco/Joni connection -- njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Hi Ya'll [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Hi Ya'll [Murphycopy@aol.com] Today in History: July 24 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: July 24 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Re: who's the dude.... Now Laura Again NJC [Susan Guzzi > Okay, I wasn't impressed with that album when I first got it but it's grown on me over the years... definately a fine production, though. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:24:32 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: NJC (Neil Young at the Hard Rock) Hi, to all I guess it's not usual to post on this list when you're going away but I didn't want anyone to think I was snubbing them if they e-mail me over the next four days and I don't reply... I'm going to Las Vegas for a long weekend and catching Neil Young (and Crazy Horse) Saturday night at the Hard Rock there for my b'day. Yes, it could be better... it could be Joni on the same bill, eh? Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:23:43 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Woodstock... Hi Bob! Sorry I haven't gotten the Woodstock cover to you yet...its sitting right here. I've had some emotional ups and downs and been falling into ruts but I promise I will get it out to you. Things have actually been going well for the most part. Just got back from a successful trip to play at Black Wolf Vineyards in Dobson and Malaprops in downtown Asheville. Also, Whole Foods is thinking about carrying my cd in their store which would be a huge boost. Looking forward to NY and Jonifest too! Not much longer... best, Victor Victor Johnson New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:27:45 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: sorry... oops....that message was meant for Bob. Apologies. Victor NP: Marlins and Braves Victor Johnson New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:31:30 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: send in the clowns My goodness yes Bob. I think Joan could have done a killer version of the tune. And, I miswrote earlier, Barbra had been soundly beaten on 'cry me a river' by julie london and by ronstadt on 'stoney end.' Also, pretty surprised she used the version of 'stayed too long at the fair' that she did instead of the color me barbra version which is quite better, in my opinion. mack np: gino vanelli-inconsolable man mack > > > did joan do that tune? > > > Nope, she never did, Mack. It would have fit in pretty well on BSN in place > of the title track though, don't you think? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:11:44 -0400 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Jaco/Joni connection Sometimes we get a glimpse of things to come with our children. Even if it is just a glimmer of recognition, any validation of what we have exposed them to is victory. Case in point: even though my daughter has been listening to Joni since before she was born, she will not allow herself to admit that Joni is SIQUOMB. Last night this bass player that she has been after for months finally accepted her invitation back to our house after one of his gigs. I am not sure if everyone's home is like mine, but I have a wonderful picture drawn by lister Diane Evans of Joni's Hejira cover on one wall, and her Mendel art exhibit poster on another. My appreciation for Joni is very evident. This young bass player comments on how cool Joni is, and that she collaborated with the greatest bass player ever (Jaco). Of course, I have been telling Stacy this for years, and even wanted her to use this as a pick-up line for her bass player, but being as it was from mom it was not valid. Wonders never cease. Last night was complete and total acceptance of all things Joni. Funny how when a boy is involved then all of a sudden things are different. I told her that I would hook her up with Mingus, Hejira, DJRD and my favorite Hissing. Am I missing a Jaco, oh, yeah, S&L, which she already likes. Finally, just as I am sending my child off to college, she is enlightened not by me but by the bass player she stalks. Who cares, as long as she appreciates Joni! Peace, Sue n.p. Off Night Backstreet ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:49:22 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Steely Dan (njc) Wow, that's exactly what Colin described earlier today. Maybe pain is why Joni's songs mean so much to me. To me, it's the most daily experience I have I guess. "Amelia" is heavy and profound, for example. I guess happy people can't be bothered because they're too busy watching sitcoms, or hollering at the kids, or drinking or gambling. I have no idea. Now playing in my head is Shawn Colvin: "It is the most REAL thing that I feel. It is commu-u-union. Bless the meek. Heal the sick. Protect the we-ee-ee-eak. In the dead of the night." Yeah, baby. Make mine a double. Jim PS, Hey Les. Thanks for letting me hang out with all of these music appreciators. You rock! Lieve said, >The weather was beautiful, the car windows were open and the radio was playing Steely Dan's "Any Place that I'm Welcome to". I felt happy as always to hear their music and sang along... Half an hour later I was crying and howling because the hospital doctor had just told me that I was not pregnant any more. I had lost it. Ever since, I connect the two: that happy feeling of a sunny ride with the Steely Dan music, and the horror of the miscarriage. But I still enjoy their music just the same.> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:35:00 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Is That All There Is?" and "Both Sides Now" sjc CC challenged: >Can anyone suggest other songs that use a similar, repeated structure where subjects change and are inserted to good and profound effect?> CC, How 'bout this? Verse one. The kid's parents have a divorce but there's newly discovered solace in a first kiss: " I know a place where we can go that's still untouched by men " Verse two. The country's leader takes the place of the father, abandoning the twenty-something listener by doing the Wrong Thing. There's steady companionship and ongoing solace: " But I know a place where we can go to wash away their sin " Verse 3. The listener's own solace is in ashes. There's no safe haven anymore: "I need to remember this so baby give me one last kiss and let take one lonnnnnng last look......... before we say 'Goodbye'. Just lay your head back on the ground and let your hair fall all around me offer up your best defense but this is the end This is the end of the innocence. " The refrain gets sadder and sadder. Soprano sax by... Wayne Shorter. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:41:08 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Royalties NJC Yep, there are TONS of precedents! During the swing era, they had live broadcasts all the time but almost none were recorded let alone preserved. Now there are lots of shows from those eras thanks to people making reel-to-reel tapes off-the-air. Our own simon is in the credits of Karen's book and the PBS special because he has a ton of research (and shows) at his fingertips. Lama >>also - on this vein - its amazing how things can change!!! two years ago a certain musician was threatening me with civil and criminal action for treeing some radio and live shows. last week her sound people contacted me for copies of some live & rare recordings for use as bonus tracks on her upcoming album!!!!!!!! todays pirate - tomorrows archivist???????>> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 00:46:33 -0400 From: "Suzanne MarcAurele" Subject: Hi Ya'll Been busy but have been cruising through the remarks - hope everyone is getting a life soon - Joni a hypocrit and therefore not disingenuous - we on the other hand sometimes sound like foolish scorned lovers - behave!! S. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:41:40 -0700 From: "Kerry Berghoff" Subject: Remembrances Reading about everyone's recollections and remembrances of Joni albums and songs has prodded me out of lurk mode, however briefly. I have a couple of really strong memories that are associated more with individual songs than whole albums. Whenever I hear "Chinese Cafe", I flash back to getting ready for my 30th birthday dinner. We were living in Alaska at the time, and in January, Alaska is pretty much a dark, crusty snowbank (albeit, fabulously pretty). We were heading about 30 miles down the coast to the Double Musky for dinner, and my mother was visiting us for the first time. Just hearing the song brings back vivid memories of a very cold, star-lit night, black velvet dresses, pepper-crusted steaks, happiness at having my mother close by, and that bittersweet feeling of leaving a part of my youth behind. The other trigger for me is most of FTR, but especially Barangrill, for some reason. I spent a lot of my first year in Alaska by myself, as my husband travels a lot, and hearing this just summons memories of many lonely drives down very icy roads with snow piled high (we had two and a half feet in one day, as I recall), and the pleasantly peculiar "green" smell of Alaska. KerryGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 00:48:49 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: who's the dude. NJC Muller writes: << Yes but PaulIV is no longer with us! ;~) >> The pope died? Gee, I remember when shit like that was on the news! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 00:55:48 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jaco/Joni connection -- njc Sue writes: << Funny how when a boy is involved then all of a sudden things are different. >> Yes. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 00:58:55 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hi Ya'll smarcaurele@digitalproquo.com writes: << hope everyone is getting a life soon >> Are we really absolutely sure Paul is gone? --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 01:03:06 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hi Ya'll Sorry about the lack of a tag on my last response. It's late and I didn't notice that the original wasn't tagged. I am usually prettty good about remembering, so you really don't have to yell at me. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 02:00:56 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: July 24 1969: Joni performed with Tim Hardin at the Schaefer Music Festival, held at Wollman Rink in New York City's Central Park. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=804 1983: Joni performed at the Jones Beach Theater in Wantaugh, New York - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 02:00:56 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: July 24 On July 24 the following article was published: 1974: "Joni adds a show" - Detroit News (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=947 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:45:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: who's the dude.... Now Laura Again NJC Hey Bree, I am having a Laura Nyro week! This weekend I came upon a second hand book and record store. While I searched for some Anais Nin diaries - which i found - I came upon yet another bin of albums in the back ... here they had several Wendy Waldman, Lani Hall, Buffy Saint Marie, Melissa Manchester, Bonnie Koloc, Melanie and a slew of other old names that rang a bell. Then there was Laura . Three of them - Gonna Take a Miracle/with Labelle, Nested and The First Songs - all on vinyl. And two of them for 3 dollars and one for 4 dollars. But when I went to pay the cashier he said, just give me 8 - woo hoo what a deal! I have had them going non stop for days now! I will be making a return trip to that store as often as possible. Not to mention trying to get rid of my show tune collection that Robin left behind - cash cash I need cash - LOL! Settle down boys I dont have them catalouged - sheeesh! Anyway I play alot of vinyl so this was great - also plan to create tapes of each. I need more Laura ... I know we just had this discussion on Laura and Joni, but what a unique and undefined musical style. I miss her, wonder what she would be up to now. Peace, Susan NP: Laura Nyro/Lazy Susan ... HEY!!! Bree Mcdonough wrote: PS. Picked up Laura Nyro's greatest hits today. First listen in the car with my sister.......she more familiar than I....very impressed. Bree Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #370 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)