From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #348 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, July 5 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 348 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Statins njc [tantra-apso ] Mandy Moore update [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Happy Fourth of July(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] fourth of july [vince ] Re: NRH and Happy 4th [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: NRH and Happy 4th [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NRH and Happy 4th [vince ] apology [vince ] Re: NRH and Happy 4th [Susan Guzzi ] Re: NRH and Happy 4th NJC [Susan Guzzi ] Nocturnal Drive to Our Abode ["Mark or Travis" ] (NJC) XM Radio ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: (NJC) XM Radio [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] On Retirement, 100% JC ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Transition:Barry White njc [tantra-apso ] The Walrus of Love is gone njc [AzeemAK@aol.com] Damien Rice tour dates NJC ["Garret" ] Re: fourth of july [Catherine McKay ] Re: Transition:Barry White njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Damien Rice tour dates NJC [Catherine McKay ] Annie Ross ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: liebowitz photo ["Lama-Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: NRH and Happy 4th [Bobsart48@aol.com] RE: (NJC) XM Radio ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: (NJC) XM Radio [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: The Walrus of Love is gone njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: apology njc [vince ] Today in History: July 5 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: July 5 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 09:20:17 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Statins njc is there anyone who has been taking statins, preferably for a while? I'd like to know how you get on with them. I have been prescribed them, about a month ago, but have not taken them thru fear. I have read bad things about them. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:46:32 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Mandy Moore update Every Friday Mandy Moore has been posting clips from her soon-to-be-released CD "Coverage"...this Friday she has a sample from her Joni cover (Help Me). http://www.mandymoore.com/ Click on the "New Album" link and you'll get a submenu with the sample. Not very creative, but I do like the crunchier guitar sound she uses as a change of pace from the airy jazzy sound that Joni employed. Not to say it's an improvement, by any means...just that it's a little different. When Wynonna covered Help Me it darn near sounded like she just recorded her vocal on the original track! Happy 4th to all, Bob NP: Terry Gonda, "Both Sides Now" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:17:43 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Happy Fourth of July(njc) Watching fireworks tonight with entertainment provided by the League of Decency(long time Atlanta swingband) then heading to the mountains tomorrow. Hope everyone has a nice holiday! Victor "Wave that flag, wave it wide and high Summertime's come and gone, my oh my" - Robert Hunter Victor Johnson New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 10:25:27 -0400 From: vince Subject: fourth of july Once in a while In a big blue moon There comes a night like this Like some surrealist Invented this 4th of July Happy 4th Vince ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:33:01 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: NRH and Happy 4th Happy 4th y'all. Let's all remember to spin NRH today :-) (I'm gonna go play it on the guitar later) Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:17:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NRH and Happy 4th In a message dated 7/4/2003 10:34:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bobsart48@aol.com writes: > Let's all remember to spin NRH today :-) > Thanks for the reminder, Bob...I already played HOSL this AM. I had to make do without it for several months as my original CD just slam wore out and I put off trying to replace it. I was looking for a deal, and it's not easy to find on this particular CD. As it worked out I got a brand-new HDCD copy for about $10 including shipping, so I settled for that. Next up I have to replace DJRD that I gave away after last fest to a certain someone who didn't have it. And speaking of playing Joni I played LOTC yesterday and was inspired to write some things about it. So maybe if I can stay motivated I'll do that this weekend. Bob NP: Ani, "Gratitude" (live) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:35:04 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: NRH and Happy 4th I may even have a date today - we'll see if any fireworks go off - but I will bring NRH along just in case - play it for em too Bob! at the very least however, I wish everyone a happy White Sox victory over Tampa Bay tonight - if anyone scores, I hope it is the Sox, often - baseball and 4th of July - very American! Vince damn Jerry, how come I never think to go to Tampa Bay before its too late? maybe because the budget is too small - but send some good vibes to my Sox tonight, I know you don't give a fuck about the DRays - and 11 days to me at the All Star game - that's where the money all went! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:37:31 -0400 From: vince Subject: apology hey sorry joni onlies - this wasn't much Joni content other than my plug for NRH - so for some content, I have been posting Joni lyrics all over the Sox board I belong to - and again sorry vince wrote: > I may even have a date today - we'll see if any fireworks go off - but > I will bring NRH along just in case - play it for em too Bob! > > at the very least however, I wish everyone a happy White Sox victory > over Tampa Bay tonight - if anyone scores, I hope it is the Sox, often - > > baseball and 4th of July - very American! > > Vince > > > damn Jerry, how come I never think to go to Tampa Bay before its too > late? maybe because the budget is too small - but send some good > vibes to my Sox tonight, I know you don't give a fuck about the DRays - > > and 11 days to me at the All Star game - that's where the money all > went! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:55:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: NRH and Happy 4th Bobsart wrote: > Let's all remember to spin NRH today :-) > (I'm gonna go play it on the guitar later) How funny Vince, Bob and all .. I just did that before reading these!!! And I will be singing along with you Bob! My second favorite Canadian these days, Joni, reminds me that it is indeed the fourth of July! Happy day to all ... now must go find a little flag to burn in honor of my freedom! YES! Still a punk after all these years! LOL! Peace, Susan NP: Phoebe Snow/Harpos Blues - --- Bobsart48@aol.com wrote: > Happy 4th y'all. > > Let's all remember to spin NRH today :-) > > (I'm gonna go play it on the guitar later) > > Bobsart __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: NRH and Happy 4th NJC WoooHoo Vince we are coming on - the White Sox that is ... look behind us now Vince and see all those weepy Cub fans awwwww! ... Maybe next millennium! Very American indeed ...but not very american in love these days ...swooning now! Peace Susan NP: how apropo ... Diana Krall/Let's Fall in Love well we'll see how long this one lasts! LOL! - --- vince wrote: > I may even have a date today - we'll see if any fireworks go off - but I > will bring NRH along just in case - play it for em too Bob! > > at the very least however, I wish everyone a happy White Sox victory > over Tampa Bay tonight - if anyone scores, I hope it is the Sox, often - > > baseball and 4th of July - very American! > > Vince > > > damn Jerry, how come I never think to go to Tampa Bay before its too > late? maybe because the budget is too small - but send some good vibes > to my Sox tonight, I know you don't give a fuck about the DRays - > > and 11 days to me at the All Star game - that's where the money all went! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! 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NOCTURNAL DRIVE TO OUR ABODE Every now and then During a rare second unobstructed appearance of the lunar satellite in a given month Occurs a nocturnal time similar to the current one As if a Dali-esque painter conceived and created This American Independence Day nocturnal drive to our abode Young females in grass skirts performing Hawaiian dances And Butterfly Larvae brand road construction equipment amid the granular marine backwash The fellow who plays the stringed instrument that Joni started on The pyrotechnics This American Independence Day nocturnal drive to our abode I am amorously devoted to the male in the seat next to me He and I adore the unobstructed highway Not one voice communication device for the rest of the work week A long way from the done to death A long way from the maxxed out Behind us in the drinking establishment the musical group disassembles its equipment However in this open space the illumination of the car's forward lamps Glint off the dollar coin colored electrical wires during this American Independence Day nocturnal drive to our abode Beyond the bend, a large shadowy equine creature Rouge colored rear auto lamps upon its surface He's maintaining the same pace as we are Crank up to maximum speed American Independence Day nocturnal drive to our abode I am amorously devoted to the male in the seat next to me He and I adore the unobstructed highway Not one voice communication device for the rest of the work week A long way from the done to death A long way from the sub surface current Every now and then During a rare second unobstructed appearance of the lunar satellite in a given month Occurs a nocturnal time similar to the current one As if a Dali-esque painter conceived and created This American Independence Day nocturnal drive to our abode Happy 4th to all in the U.S. Mark E. (P.) in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:29:40 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: (NJC) XM Radio love it, had it in a rental car...i think its the future! www.katebennett.com "Lyrically, it's a work of art overall. Brilliant writing, absolutely." Indie-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:46:59 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) XM Radio In a message dated 7/4/2003 3:39:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: > love it, had it in a rental car...i think its the future! > We have it in the gym at work...it's pretty awesome. I like the "80's alternative" station (Fred) and "Deep Tracks" which plays music by classic artists but not the ones that have been played to death. They also play lots of archived concerts. A minimum of talking, just to announce the songs every 5-6 tracks, and NO commercials. It ain't the future, it's the present! ;~) Bob NP: Sleater-Kinney, "You're No Rock n' Roll Fun" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:18:47 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: On Retirement, 100% JC Lindsay Moon is JMDL's official transcriber. I can now say that transcribing is time consuming, even tedious work that produces a satisfaction in sharing something worthwhile. Thanks for all you've done, Lindsay. Today, I was compelled to transcribe a passage from a PBS special. The passage is about a period late in the career of a great North American artist. Since these verbal recollections sound like poetry to me, that's the way I've typed them. The artist is Ansel Adams. - --------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------------------- Narrator: ... Three years later, in 1963, Adams and Newhall would collaborate again on a vast retrospective exhibit of his work called "The Eloquent Light" that would consolidate his already considerable reputation and fame and mark the beginning of the End of the most fruitful part of his career. - --------------------------------------------- Expert #1: the friend's voice "At some point in the late 50's, the great Creative Urge began to dissipate. Certainly after the mid to late 50s, he made very few photographs of Real Consequence. Whether he felt he'd Said It or Done It, he continued to make photographs but the Drive was gone and he was.... 61 years old at the time of the exhibition and Many artists have much, much shorter periods of great productivity." - --------------------------------------------- Expert #2, the curmudgeon: "I think it probably has a lot to do with just... just plain stamina... uhh.. I mean... just Physical Stamina. The ability to kind of Stay With It and continue to Worry It and to Do It From The Other Side to try and Keep Confronting this suspicion that - -----you don't----- that - -----you haven't really----- Understood It yet. - -----That you don't----- - -----you haven't found----- the right place to stand.... - -----you haven't found----- or... the edges of the picture are - -----you haven't found----- - -----you haven't found----- really, what the components of the picture are yet. It gets easier to abandon it half-done when you get Older." - --------------------------------------------- Expert #1: the friend's voice, as if continuing the sentence ".... and he felt very guilty about it. When I first came to know him in the 70s, and he was 69 I think, he was always saying, "I've really gotta get out and photograph." You could tell that he really felt that they were going to take his Union Card away or something. (a joke, meaning he would be forsaken) He really shou.... It was Guilt. He was a big man for Guilt. But it didn't make any difference. He didn't... He just didn't do it. And when he went out, Nothing Happened. - --------------------------------------------- Expert #3: "If you look at the few late pictures he made late in his life "Moon at Half Dome" "El Capitan Winter Sunrise" Oh, my gosh! Those are two of his twelve best pictures! And he made them on the spur of the moment when he Happened to be in Yosemite with a camera which shows he could Still Do It. - --------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------------------- Discuss. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 22:28:12 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Transition:Barry White njc Barry White took his transition earlier today. He was only 58. He had a wonderful voice. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:32:32 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: The Walrus of Love is gone njc Barry White has gone to that great boudoir in the sky, for what will hopefully be a prolonged series of romps on a bearskin rug. I always had a soft spot for him, and in a way I think he was underrated - he became a bit of a joke figure, with his preposterously deep voice and bedroom lyrics. He was a very fine arranger and producer as well as songwriter and singer. Never Gonna Give You Up and You're The First My Last My Everything are two stone classics in any language. Rest in peace, Big Man Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:26:27 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: Damien Rice tour dates NJC I pulled this from rollingstone.com Damien Rice tour dates: 7/17: New York, South Street Seaport 7/20: Philadelphia, Great Plaza 9/10: Philadelphia, Theatre of Living Arts 9/11: Toronto, El Mocambo 9/13: Boston, Paradise 9/15: New York, Irving Plaza 9/16: Pittsburgh, Club Cafe 9/17: Louisville, KY, Headliners 9/18: Birmingham, AL, Workplay 9/20: Nashville, Belcourt 9/21: Atlanta, Cotton Club 9/23: Chicago, Park West 9/24: Minneapolis, Fine Line 9/26: Boulder, CO, Fox 9/29: Vancouver, Richards 9/30: Seattle, Crocodile 10/1: Portland, Aladdin 10/2: San Francisco, Great American 10/4: Los Angeles, Fonda There is an interesting article too http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18322 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:56:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: fourth of july --- vince wrote: > Once in a while > In a big blue moon > There comes a night like this > Like some surrealist > Invented this 4th of July > > > > > Happy 4th > Vince Hey, Happy 4th, Americanos! and remember that song was written by a Canadian! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:03:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Transition:Barry White njc --- tantra-apso wrote: > Barry White took his transition earlier today. He > was only 58. He had a > wonderful voice. oh no! He was young and you're right - he had a most wonderful voice. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:05:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Damien Rice tour dates NJC --- Garret wrote: > I pulled this from rollingstone.com > > Damien Rice tour dates: > > 7/17: New York, South Street Seaport > 7/20: Philadelphia, Great Plaza > 9/10: Philadelphia, Theatre of Living Arts Hooray! he's coming to Trawna! (I thought the El Mo had closed too, but I guess they couldn't keep it down.) > 9/11: Toronto, El Mocambo ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:49:28 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Annie Ross This is just a personal account about how Joni's work affects her audience. Feel free to skip it but I'm pretty sure this is Joni Content. My dad had some Annie Ross, King Pleasure, Ella Fitzgerald, and Frank Sinatra among his LPs. I was completely aware of "Centerpiece" and "Twisted" before I heard "Woodstock", performed by CSNY on AM radio. When I found out that this "new" songwriter had put an Annie Ross song on "Court and Spark", it made sense to me. (It made the same sense when I discovered on my own, that Keith Emerson had stolen part of "Blue Rondo ala Turk" from Dave Brubeck.) Anyway, I knew about Annie Ross because of my dad. Yesterday I showed him my treasure trove of stuff about THOSL. I showed him the LP cover. The National Geographic article about the dying of primitive cultures. The photo that provided the inspiration for one of the cover's images. I showed him the inner photo by Norman Seeff, then my own print of an outtake photo. He looked over the song titles, and miraculously asked, "Did she write ALL of these songs?" "No, she didn't," I said and dropped the needle on "Centerpiece." The liner notes in THOSL credit Johnny Mandel and Jon Hendricks. He started nodding and humming. Later, when we walked to the car, he was still whistling "Centerpiece". I just smiled. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:51:09 -0400 From: "Lama-Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: liebowitz photo Okay, I'm a perfectionist and a photographer so I've gotta chime in. What's on the Yahoo! site is a part of Annie's image, it's not her composition. It's not her image. It's an awkard slice of her image. Get the book: "Women". It's written by Susan Sontag with photographs by Annie Leibowitz. I bought mine as a "remainder", book publishing's equivalent of a "cut-out". When they make a book a "remainder", they put a flaw on it, and mine has a mark from a black Magic Marker on it. All the best, Jim Doug said,>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoniMitchellfans/ It's in the files section. File size is 820k.>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:51:15 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: NRH and Happy 4th SCJoniGuy writes: > >> >> > Thanks for the reminder, Bob...I already played HOSL this AM. I had to make > do without it for several months as my original CD just slam wore out and I > put off trying to replace it. I was looking for a deal, and it's not easy to > find on this particular CD. As it worked out I got a brand-new HDCD copy for > about $10 including shipping, so I settled for that. My HOSL disappeared recently. Maybe the person who stole it sold it to you ;-) Hey, Joni made Jeopardy again with the usual clue "This Joni Mitchell song says 'they paved paradise" A contestant got it right. I'm dreaming of getting a JM question for the $1 Milllion question on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. On my bad nights, I get it wrong ;~) I;m in a slump. Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:28:52 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: (NJC) XM Radio you are right it is the present, but i think it will be more present in the future ... er, or something...:~} It ain't the future, it's the present! ;~) Bob NP: Sleater-Kinney, "You're No Rock n' Roll Fun" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:24:50 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) XM Radio In a message dated 7/4/2003 9:38:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: > you are right it is the present, but i think it will be more present in the > future ... er, or something...:~} > LOL - exactly! And I wouldn't mind getting an XM radio FOR a present! :~) Bob NP: The Breeders, "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:28:21 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Walrus of Love is gone njc In a message dated 7/4/2003 5:33:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AzeemAK@aol.com writes: > Rest in peace, Big Man > Amen & Amen...Barry will always rock in my book. One of my favoritest songs ever is the "Love's Theme" by his Love Unlimited Orchestra. It was among the first songs I heard when I got my driver's license and drove by myself for the first time. It always sounds like freedom to me. Bob NP: Spoon, "Small Stakes" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:10:40 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: apology njc vince wrote: > >> I may even have a date today - we'll see if any fireworks go off - >> but I will bring NRH along just in case - play it for me too Bob! >> whether it was my playing it, or Bob's playing it, or Susan playing it, it worked - happy 4th! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 02:00:47 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: July 5 1968: Joni performed tonight at the Bitter End in New York City. Also on the bill were Bunky & Jake and David Steinberg. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 02:00:47 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: July 5 On July 5 the following articles were published: 1968: "Singer-Songwriters Are Making a Comeback" - New York Times (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=799 1983: "Joni Mitchell Manages to Fuse Musical Styles" - Detroit Free Press (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=979 1999: "Central Park SummerStage" - New Yorker (Concert Preview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=35 2000: "Portrait of a singer's inner soul" - Toronto Globe and Mail (Review - Art Show) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=531 2002: "Canada honours Joni Mitchell, Bruce Cockburn" - Jam! 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