From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #313 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, June 5 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 313 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: We DO need a regime change... [Dawn Burns ] Re: We DO need a regime change... [SoulQuest7@aol.com] Re: miles of aisles...the truth about Gomer [Warrenkeith91354@aol.com] Today in History: June 5 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: June 5 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] EDIE AND THE DRUG LORD [Murphycopy@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 19:58:47 -0700 From: Dawn Burns Subject: Re: We DO need a regime change... > I saw Arundahti Roy speak on C-Span and also on "Democracy Now", but I > didn't find her arguments very convincing. While I've never been a > fan of Dubya, I don't think Roy really knows what she's talking about. > I think political authors like Paul Berman and Christopher Hitchens > have a much more realistic view of Middle East politics. Arundhati > Roy just seems to be living in la-la land of far left wing conspiracy > theories and isn't really going to do anything for anyone that will > help people in a practical way. =-=-=-=- Jai Ma-==- Nick While I believe that both Berman and Hitchens might be more "academic" in their styles of writing and their approach to Mid East politics, I disagree that Roy doesn't know what she's talking about. Her speech was more about the costs of "democracy" - more of a call to action to the American people, complete with irony, a leftist perspective and a bit of humor. She was historically correct, and I think that the points she made were valid in terms of citing some of the many events preceding Bubba's actions. I see that you are suspicious of the "far left wing conspiracy theories" and that's why you wouldn't find her arguments convincing. I can respect that. I just had to respond by saying, imho and from what must be a farther leftist perspective than you, that Roy does indeed know what she's talking about. Bottom line is, Bubba's got to go and it would be refreshing if more of my fellow American citizens didn't fall for his "freedom" game. Regards, Dawn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 23:21:13 EDT From: SoulQuest7@aol.com Subject: Re: We DO need a regime change... In a message dated 6/4/2003 8:01:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dawnburns@attbi.com writes: > < more about the costs of "democracy" - more of a call to action to the > American people, complete with irony, a leftist perspective and a bit of > humor. She was historically correct, and I think that the points she > made were valid in terms of citing some of the many events preceding > Bubba's actions>> I think "irony" and "humor" are polite words for relentless sarcasm, which is what she falls back on when she's lapsing into conspiracy theory. I get tired of listening to snide accusations that can't be proved. Roy delights in pointing out hypocricy and injustice, but she uses too many catch phrases that are merely throwing raw meat to a left wing audience. It's getting to be so predictable that you can just wait for certain key phrases and beliefs that will always be trotted out for applause. And she doesn't turn that same brand of logic on the left wing, which would be just as easy, which is why she is suspect IMHO. If your really a critical thinker, you can tear both extreme wings of the political spectrum to shreds. She's just an ideologue, and her speeches aren't going to do anything to get Dubya unelected. Probably most of the people who think like Roy will merely faction off left wing votes on far-fetched left wing candidates (Socialists, Greens, etc) and simply help Dubya get elected again. ==--=- Jai Ma===- Nick Main Entry: ideo7logue > Variant(s): also idea7logue > /'I-dE-&-"log, -"ldg/ Function: noun Etymology: French idiologue, back-formation from idiologie Date: 1815 1 : an impractical idealist : THEO RIST 2 : an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideo logy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:07:55 EDT From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Subject: Re: miles of aisles...the truth about Gomer I'm going to have to jump in here guys and provide the truth about Gomer, he is from Mayberry, North Carolina. That's close to Mount Pilot and just a hop, skip, and a jump from Raleigh, the state capitol. Shazam !!! He was gas station attendant / mechanic until he joined the Marines. ( His brother Gobber took over at the gas station when Gomer left.) Thus the statement from a fan in the audience," Joni you have more class than Gomer Pyle and Richard Nixon..." and that's the truth ! Jonily Yours, Warren Keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 02:10:00 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: June 5 1988: Joni was interviewed for the "Sunday" show in Australia 1993: Joni performed at the Troubadours of Folk Festival at UCLA. More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/TroubadoursFest93.html - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 02:10:00 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: June 5 On June 5 the following item was published: 2000: "Camden Concert" - Philadelphia Inquirer (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=520 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:44:33 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: EDIE AND THE DRUG LORD EDIE AND THE DRUG LORD The large adult male makes an entrance Go-go hoofers welcome him Out-of-uniform police officials welcome him Tiny community, large adult male, recently applied kisser gloss glowing Childish baloney From dupes of writing machines The music sounds like writing machines The large adult male he's not harkening His optic receivers clutch Edie His portside paw clutches its opposite What does the claw covet That he squeezes it so firmly Edie in the loop The rejected young women are comparing options The adult male with the precious stone hand jewelry is rumbling contentedly Every talon temporarily retracted Singularly they deliver His rebel legends to her His infractions and his distinctions to her In defiance they gawk nearby Females with whom he has had sexual relations age exceedingly fast He leans their haggard countenances Delicately to the rounded silverware Edie on his mattress An aircraft in the precipitation is buzzing The strands of metal in the room's barriers are buzzing A particular tune, a particular enigmatic tune Plays in her noggin Thrashing agitated and blizzard sightless Lovey-dovey and blizzard sightless She declares his trespasses are all right Edie and the drug lord Each with charisma to influence Are gazing oculus to oculus They hazard not stare elsewhere You know they hazard not stare elsewhere ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #313 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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