From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #309 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, June 2 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 309 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Annoying Joni ["Mick Mick" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #180 [Aerchak@aol.com] traveling to Saskatoon, North Battleford [Dlgoldi@cs.com] Re: Cease interfering with the sadness [Catherine McKay ] Covers #41 - The giveaways [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Thanks, Bob! [Harry83house@aol.com] Re: Covers #41 - The giveaways [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= ] Re: Group activity - Joni lounge-singing [Murphycopy@aol.com] [NortheastJonifest] Brainstorming ["Donna Binkley" ] miles of aisles ["Garret" ] In Gaul, people press mouths together on the major thoroughfare [Gordon M] re: Joni turns 60 on Nov 7, 2003 ["Victor Johnson" ] watercourse ["Wally Kairuz" ] the book of music history [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Group activity - another fun game [Jenny Goodspeed ] Re: miles of aisles (very NJC now) ["Garret" ] Re: miles of aisles/Gomer -- NJC ["Garret" ] Re: Yet another Joni choice on Desert Island Discs! [Gertus@aol.com] Two Bobs Are Better Than One...(Joni Mitchell Shoes/ BUOT) [Warrenkeith91] Re: Two Bobs Are Better Than One...NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Two Bobs Are Better Than One...NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Two Bobs Are Better Than One...NJC [Aerchak@aol.com] Re: Two Bobs Are Better Than One...(Joni Mitchell Shoes/ BUOT) [David Sad] Re: Yet another Joni choice on Desert Island Discs! [AzeemAK@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:07:36 +0000 From: "Mick Mick" Subject: Re: Annoying Joni One rainy Sunday afternoon later at www.amiannoying.com. She's not so annoying, now ... _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 06:20:37 EDT From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #180 I totally agree an CD of Joni Mitchell covers by Diana Krall would be mind blowing. A Case of You is so incredible, I can hardly bear it. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 06:33:52 EDT From: Dlgoldi@cs.com Subject: traveling to Saskatoon, North Battleford Can anyone tell me the Joni sights I should take in when I pass through this summer? Dorothy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 06:46:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Cease interfering with the sadness --- Susan Guzzi wrote: > > I have had one rolling around in my head but I can't > seem to get it down and it makes me wonder > what else do yo parody writers do all day? LOL!! As little as possible. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:33:19 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: curious Re: Wall to Wall Joni Mitchell recordings In a message dated 6/1/2003 10:24:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, PassScribe writes: > How about I just make you a CD of it? Or would you prefer a cassette > copy? Oh, the CD would be preferred...I typically assume that most folks can't transfer tape to cd. Cool. I'd hate to send the original through the mail in > case it gets lost or > damaged.... you know the US Postal Service. I must not know the same USPS that you do. The service I get is excellent and CHEAP! In the five years that I've been on the JMDL I've never had anything lost or damaged, except for stuff that I sent to South America & I don't hold that against the USPS. They make an easy target, but in reality they do a good job imo. Bob NP: Bonnie, "Streetlights" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:01:38 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Group activity - Joni lounge-singing > sing them in your best Bill Murray lounge singer style. Did I hear that the ghost of Ethel Merman might make an appearance at that same lounge?? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:04:12 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: COLOSSAL LEMON-COLORED CAR AND DRIVER FOR HIRE - njc > Imperfections on the fruit of Eve which I possess All of you are SO hilarious with these parodies!! I'm fecking dying with laughter here, and you're making me late for work!!! Rock on ... Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:09:42 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Annoying Joni Should we bother to tell the owners of that website that this is incorrect?? "She married Chuck Mitchell for only one year (1965-67) producing a daughter that she gave up for adoption." Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:32:40 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers #41 - The giveaways As usual, I'm doling out a couple of free copies of the newest release in the JMDL Joni Tribute cover series, #41 that I wrote about yesterday. Several ways to win: 1. The first person whose LAST name BEGINS with "R" to mail me wins! 2. The first person CURRENTLY RESIDING in South Carolina to mail me wins! 3. Pick-a-song, any song on a Joni release. Tell me the album & song title. Whoever is closest wins! (And the winner gets a bonus...an hour long concert film of Joni in London '83 that plays right on your computer - Cool!) Any questions, please ask. I'll stop the presses and the guesses Thursday at midnight so's I can get everything mailed out Friday before I leave for vacation. Thanks for the interest, Bob NP: Bonnie Raitt, "Home" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:43:56 EDT From: Harry83house@aol.com Subject: Thanks, Bob! Hey, buddy! I got in from out of town and found a package from you waiting for me! What a treat! I love these covers compilations! AND thanks for the preview of #41! I'm an old marching band sax player from high school, so hearing "Woodstock" in that style really takes me back. We used to march to "Classical Gas," if you can believe it. Anyway, "Bob's Sweet Sixteen" is an amazing collection, and, on #38, Duncan Sheik's "Court and Spark" is a very nice surprise and Itxaso & Daniel Perez' "Cherokee Louise" and "Night Ride Home" is oddly, incredibly moving to me. Who are they? Also, on that same collection, is Babs Streisand, live. I figure the "David" she's talking to is David Geffen, but is Barbra also talking to Joni herself from the stage? It sounds like Barbra says, "oooh, I love your music...I love your voice " to Joni in the audience. It sounds like Barbra gets a little self-conscious towards the end of the song, too, because she just sort of stops singing and says, "great song...great lyrics". Fascinatin'. Thanks again, Bob! all the best, Harry PS Betty Buckley's "I Had A King" cover is simply incredible on Volume 2, Disc One. Betty's done several Joni covers, so she's clearly a big fan, but I feel this is her best. I love how she sarcastically sings, "Lately he's taken to saying I'M crazy"...yet HE wears drip-dry and paisley! Wonderful! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:22:37 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= Subject: Re: Covers #41 - The giveaways Hi, Bob! My guess is "Nothing can be done" (NRH) Anyway, could I get that '83 London concert by paypaling you for it? As you know by now, I'm the one at asking: there's a galician idiom that says "o que non chora non mama" (the one who don't cry, don't suck (mother's milk)) Very appropiate, don't you think? Have a wooonderful time! Emiliano PS: Cactus Tree, Los Angeles, 3/3/74 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: Covers #41 - The giveaways > As usual, I'm doling out a couple of free copies of the newest > > release in the JMDL Joni Tribute cover series, #41 that I wrote about yesterday. Several ways to win: > > 1. The first person whose LAST name BEGINS with "R" to mail me wins! > > 2. The first person CURRENTLY RESIDING in South Carolina to mail me wins! > > 3. Pick-a-song, any song on a Joni release. Tell me the album > & song title. Whoever is closest wins! (And the winner gets a bonus...an hour long concert film of Joni in London '83 that plays right on your computer - Cool!) > > Any questions, please ask. I'll stop the presses and the > guesses Thursday at midnight so's I can get everything mailed > out Friday before I leave for vacation. > > Thanks for the interest, > Bob > > NP: Bonnie Raitt, "Home" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:28:15 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Thanks, Bob! (all Joni Covers content) In a message dated 6/2/2003 7:43:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, Harry83house writes: I'm an old marching band sax player from high school, so >hearing "Woodstock" in that style really takes me back. We >used to march to "Classical Gas," if you can believe it. That was a fairly popular marching band number, if I recall. Not quite as popular as "The Horse" though...geez, I think EVERY marching band in the country had that one in the repertoire. And do you remember the movies that accompanied that song on the Smothers Brothers show? They would flash hundreds of images one after the other. I remember being fascinated by those films. >Anyway, "Bob's Sweet Sixteen" is an amazing collection, Thanks - I'm working on a 2nd one, for the benefit of those who just like to sample from the cream at the top, but thank God for those of you who like to dig down to the sludge as well! ;~) >Itxaso & Daniel Perez' "Cherokee Louise" and "Night Ride >Home" is oddly, incredibly moving to me. Who are they? Perhaps Mike or Emiliano can help...they're a jazz combo from Spain. I've really gotten excellent feedback on these and I agree that they are very moving. I think that part of the effect is caused by the effect Itxaso conveys by singing in a non-native tongue. It's very affecting, and Perez' guitar work is great as well. >Also, on that same collection, is Babs Streisand, live. I >figure the "David" she's talking to is David Geffen, but is >Barbra also talking to Joni herself from the stage? It >sounds like Barbra says, "oooh, I love your music...I love >your voice " to Joni in the audience. It sounds like Barbra >gets a little self-conscious towards the end of the song, >too, because she just sort of stops singing and says, "great >song...great lyrics". I've seen it written that Joni WAS in the audience and you're right, it sounds like she might have been. I'm not sure. Maybe some Babs experts on the list can assist. >PS Betty Buckley's "I Had A King" cover is simply incredible >on Volume 2, Disc One. Betty's done several Joni covers, so >she's clearly a big fan, but I feel this is her best. I concur, and I really love they way she begins with "If I Remember You Right", and segues flawlessly and emotionally to "I Had A King". It's a knockout all right. I dig all of Betty's Joni covers! Bob NP: Bonnie & Delbert, "Good Man, Good Woman" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:07:34 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: re: Ballerina Valerie Shawn, In the thesaurusising of Joni's lyrics onlist lately your message may have been lost; or you may have recieved myriad off-list responses. The song Ballerina Valerie, if memory serves, can be found on the old and excellent collection of performances at Second Fret (if i'm wrong someone will doubtlessly set the record straight). Isn't BV Joni's coca cola commerical?? "Down in the garden, under a leaf, she was smoking her kief...... down in the garden, under an oak, he was drinking his coke....." am i way off? I have two cd's from these shows floating around the house somewhere, and must say that they are fabulous. I'm sure it is a compilation put together of numerous performances. Mostly, the sound quality is great. It is a very appealing set. Unfortunately my cd burner is currently dead! If you send a message to the list requesting the Second Fret shows im sure someone can help you, B&P. If that doesn't happen i'll see if i can get a friend to burn it for you. There is a performance of Cactus Tree on this that grips me- Joni admits that she has not finished writing the song and has not really decided which way to bring hte melody so vacillates between ideas throughout the song - superb:-) It is one of our few first hand insights into the creative process behind the song writing of Joni Mitchell. her interpretations of some of hte songs on here are quite different to the later recorded versions. There are great performances of many of her early songs (first three/four albums??), and bits and pieces that have never been recorded as well as a hell of alot of chatting, and a young Joni being wonderfully a young Joni (there is one wonderful part where she says something along the lines of "this is in standard tuning; i really hope they record it"......i may be way off, but she is talking of Sugar Mountain, but as i say i'm recalling from memory and have not listened to these shows for over a year, and then Neil's Sweet Joni From Saskatoon is on it too/ these may be fillers on my copy, but still, they are great!). I think these songs, among others, may also be on that collection: Brandy Eyes Mr. Blue London Bridge Carnival at Kanora Blue on Blue Well, Shawn, i hope i've been helpful. Even if Ballerina Valerie is not on that one, it is worth having, but i really think it is on that set. GARRET np - Stryngs, Bobblehats and Beer ( i love it love it love it) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:45:40 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Group activity - Joni lounge-singing Bryan writes: << just pick some songs and sing them in your best Bill Murray lounge singer style >> I have been doing this for 30 years! (Much to the chagrin of three decades worth of people!) --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:48:52 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: [NortheastJonifest] Brainstorming Dear Les & Ashara, I was thinking Les could put up a link to the raffle info. on our JMDL homepage for anyone who might be browsing there but isn't on the list... db >>> AsharaProducLLC@aol.com 5/31/2003 12:46:01 PM >>> PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING CHANGE IN RULE #2 Announcing..... A Jonifest RAFFLE!!! To enter: Send $30 (payable to Ashara Productions, LLC) along with your name, address, phone number and e-mail address to win a chance at a FULL, all-expense paid weekend to Jonifest 2003. (Can also Paypal this amount.) Please write "JONIFEST RAFFLE CONTEST" somewhere in your note. RULES: 1) All entries must be received by midnight, EST, June 10, 2003. 2) {Open to list members of the JMDL only.} *********THIS IS NOW CHNAGED TO READ: Open to EVERYONE!!!! What the hell, the idea is to get as many people there as possible, so tell EVERYONE!!!!************ 3) This offer is open to NEW registrants for Jonifest only. Participants already signed up for Jonifest 2003 are not eligible. 4) Does NOT include transportation to/from Jonifest. Weekend price only for a shared accomodation with a shared bath. 5) There must be a minimum number of 10 entries, otherwise contest is void and all entries will be returned. 6) For 10-19 entries, there will be one winner. For 20-29 entries, 2 winners, etc. How can you resist? If you've been thinking of going to Jonifest this year but funds are tight, the worst that can happen is that you gamble $30 for a chance to join us for a GREAT weekend of fun, family, friends, and music!! (fusic??) The BEST that can happen is that you come to Jonifest for $30!!! The odds are high that you will win as the highest odds are 1 in 19, and can conceivably be as low as 1 in 10!!! Enter now, and join us in August!! GOOD LUCK!!! Hugs, Ashara This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:59:39 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Come to a full, all-expense paid Jonifest for $30!!!!!UPDATED!!! If this were open to participants already signed up i would send my check today...db >>> 5/31/2003 12:46:01 PM >>> PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING CHANGE IN RULE #2 Announcing..... A Jonifest RAFFLE!!! To enter: Send $30 (payable to Ashara Productions, LLC) along with your name, address, phone number and e-mail address to win a chance at a FULL, all-expense paid weekend to Jonifest 2003. (Can also Paypal this amount.) Please write "JONIFEST RAFFLE CONTEST" somewhere in your note. RULES: 1) All entries must be received by midnight, EST, June 10, 2003. 2) {Open to list members of the JMDL only.} *********THIS IS NOW CHNAGED TO READ: Open to EVERYONE!!!! What the hell, the idea is to get as many people there as possible, so tell EVERYONE!!!!************ 3) This offer is open to NEW registrants for Jonifest only. Participants already signed up for Jonifest 2003 are not eligible. 4) Does NOT include transportation to/from Jonifest. Weekend price only for a shared accomodation with a shared bath. 5) There must be a minimum number of 10 entries, otherwise contest is void and all entries will be returned. 6) For 10-19 entries, there will be one winner. For 20-29 entries, 2 winners, etc. How can you resist? If you've been thinking of going to Jonifest this year but funds are tight, the worst that can happen is that you gamble $30 for a chance to join us for a GREAT weekend of fun, family, friends, and music!! (fusic??) The BEST that can happen is that you come to Jonifest for $30!!! The odds are high that you will win as the highest odds are 1 in 19, and can conceivably be as low as 1 in 10!!! Enter now, and join us in August!! GOOD LUCK!!! Hugs, Ashara This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:04:51 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: re: Joni turns 60 on Nov 7, 2003 The Lovely Lori pointed out that: Joni turns 60 on Nov 7, 2003, just a little more than 5 months from now. We should arrange a surprise party for her (in my house, of course), invite all the big wigs; Dylan, Cohen, Young, Geffen (ahem), Crosby, Nash, Stills, Klein, Dolby, Sting, Costello, Taylor, Nelson, Idol, Petty, Gabriel, Hancock, Khan, Shorter, Isham, Henley, Sarandon, Hamilton, Scott, Hornby, Vega, Collins, Baez, Judd, Grant, Duritz, Jackson, Simon, Hynde, Adams, Colvin, Laupar, Krall, Nicholson, Steiger, Morrissey and all those others she has come across, influenced, worked with, argued with....... Or, if we could somehow arrange to send something to her...... how about some sunflower seeds? A journal of thoughts and pics from JMDLers? A collection of cover versions? A single statement of thanks and appreciation and encouragement to represent all members of JMDL? A computer and invitiation to join the list which we could then turn into the "Georgia O Keefe, Vincent Van Gogh, Miles Davis, whatever Joni wants to talk about disscussion list"? It would seem that we really should do something to mark the occasion. Afterall, the original reason we are all here is because of a mutual love and respect for the work of this lady. She is the founding reason for the friendships, relationships, collaborations, parties initiated through this list. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:04:48 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: miles of aisles I pulled MOA off the shelf the other day in a moment of dilemma regarding what to put into the Discman walking to the shop to buy olive oil. I have not listened to MOA for some time. Of late, the only Joni recordings I have listened to are Blue, FTR, TI, and a little (very little) Travelogue. Instead I have been enraptured with Tori Amos, The Carpenters, Coldplay, Royksopp, Ladytron and the almost always brilliant John Martyn. The sun had been shining in Ireland for some days at that point. The heat was unexpected and rather overwhelming. We needed olive oil. In my hangover induced generosity I volunteered to get the oil. You can see, then, why the choice of music was paramount - a sensitive physical disposition willingly walking in the sunshine! It was most certainly not a Patti Smith moment, too loud; not a Joan Armatrading moment, too sensitive (!); not a Rufus Wainwright moment, too demanding; not an REM moment, too faux-brow; not a Nina Simone moment, too overplayed right now; not a Dolly Parton moment, too sweet; not an Eddi Reader moment, too scratched; not a Zwan moment, too Smashing Pumpkins. The only answer was Joni. Walking to the store brought me right back to summer 2000 - Hyannis, Ma (Can you believe that is where I first met you Mr. Marshall?? It approaches three years ago at this point). I had bought MOA with my 30% staff discount in Borders Books. Along with a storytellers compilation and Eva Cassidy "Time After Time", MOA scored the summer that year. MOA always reminds me of the 40 minute walk to work of those days; days dancing in the shadows of trees and singing in the quiet streets of Cape Cod - the need for entertainment reflected in every step. The opening two tracks always get me bopping (yes, they get *me* bopping:-). On more than one occasion I arrived into work and the local workers, smiling, would say things like " I drove past you on the way to work - there seemed to be quite a party going on!". To me, MOA is a summer album, always perfect when the sun shines, bringing back to me the sights, smells, and feelings of a dream-like extended holiday. The mood is so high during YTMOIAR and BYT, to be brought swinging down in a moment of artistic glory with what strikes me as a fairly dark interpretation of Rainy Night House. I have always loved this song. The version they play on MOA is superb. I love the piano of the original; first time I heard MOA I mourned the piano's loss. If I want to hear Joni sing RNH live with piano intact I will go to that amazing 1969 PBS television show recording where she runs RNH into Blue Boy (this, for the record, is possibly my favourite bootleg of anyone at anytime). All I Want is a tour de force on MOA, and this has never been my favourite Joni song (althought the Supremes inject some wonderful vitality into it!). I am convinced that Joni is in better voice on MOA than on any album. She is filling in the gap between the helium highs and loaded lows; divinity on legs (must admit, she gives herself a run for her own money on Last time i saw richard; Sweet sucker dance; Jungle Line) I want to ask; is the concert on MOA taken from one show? Did Joni really take an intermission after the fourth song? If so, why? Is the concert edited to remove the time delay between songs? Is the track order honestly intact? Who is Gomer Pile (???) of Long Island? Who are Mick Jagger and Richard Nixon? (j/k) MOA is superb. I tend to forget about it, and then enjoy rediscovering it every time. GARRET np, rather predicably, Stryngs, Convince:-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:02:28 +0100 From: Gordon Mackie Subject: In Gaul, people press mouths together on the major thoroughfare Well folks....heres another feeble attempt....I had fun doing it though ! In Gaul people press mouths together on the major thoroughfare In the city centre With my beloved Woolworth's pickpocket In my personal "Battle against British taxation of the 18th century" Popular music resonated innocently pure as triumphal success Beneath garish gas-filled electrical advertising tubes A young lady was blossoming And an older lady was disappearing In a middle class chamber on the outskirts of town One uttered " Accompany me to the Gavotte Does one like to gavotte? One adores to gavotte Plus I said to this guy 'Those people don't take risks' Those people appear to be far away form sentimental notions of coupling They have smashed their way into organised religious buildings and buildings of childhood education And shaped it in the fashion of the petit bourgeois condition And we were tumbling, tumbling, stone(d) and tumbling In the city centre The discos and coffee houses Give a sensation of abandonment that one could wreak emotional damage Performing the most up to date gavotte fashion A windswept lass along with one who is the subject of an opera by Gustave Charpentier In cosmetically enhancing lingerie for women's breasts Close fitting skirts and cheap costume jewellery with stones reminiscent of Elvis's outfits Quaffing the orchestra's ale Adolescent attachment was pressing mouths together below river crossings Pressing mouths together inside automobiles pressing mouths together inside coffee houses Additionally many of us went striding down the main thoroughfare Pressing each others mouths together akin to vivid gay symbolic pennants Well endowed on vacation In Gaul people press mouths together on the main thoroughfare Passionate French love mother, not inexpensive presentation And we were tumbling, tumbling, stone(d) and tumbling In the city centre In the electronic bagatelle machine hall Alongside this guys cranium stuffed with billiard- room presuasive sales talk And tunes from the pop charts This guy was modulating his tones around " Goodbye to Emotional Attachment' At the same time gaining enough points to go again without paying Allow those popular music choristers to arrive and escort us off afar Occasionally, Richard obtained an automobile, or Ronald obtained an automobile or heavy metalled 12 incher Mel and his car obsessed cranium Together we would proceed in search of a social gathering for pleasure Searching to resurrect the Son of God from lifelessness Also we would have been pressing our mouths together in the rear chair of the automobile Excited by the On the Waterfront actor-type items which he uttered And we were tumbling, tumbling, stone(d) and tumbling Hmmm....i think Ive lost the plot altogether.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:59:28 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: re: Joni turns 60 on Nov 7, 2003 Kate and Jeff will be holding their annual Joni Mitchell Birthday tribute in Santa Barbara....that's where I'll be. Victor It would seem that we really should do something to mark the occasion. Afterall, the original reason we are all here is because of a mutual love and respect for the work of this lady. She is the founding reason for the friendships, relationships, collaborations, parties initiated through this list. GARRET Victor Johnson waytoblu@mindspring.com Look for the new album "Parsonage Lane" this spring! Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:20:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: In Gaul, people press mouths together on the major thoroughfare these lines had me howling! "A windswept lass along with one who is the subject of an opera by Gustave Charpentier" wally, ribs aching since the thesaurus thing started ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:24:51 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: miles of aisles/Gomer -- NJC Garret writes: << Who is Gomer Pile (???) of Long Island? >> Hi, Garret! Great to see you posting again. Best wishes for next year at grad school. Gomer Pyle was the name of a character Jim Nabors played in two American sitcoms: "Mayberry RFD" (later "The Andy Griffith Show") and "Gomer Pyle, USMC" (U. S. Marine Corps). Gomer was a goofy, innocent and kindhearted Southern sort of guy. I always thought the character of Gomer was too annoying, but our own Jimmy was rumored to have had an affair with Mr. Nabors (Jim 'n Jimmy!). One more fun fact: I believe Jim Nabors is represented in the Covers Collection singing "Both Sides Now." Mr. Muller will correct me if I'm wrong. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:00:45 -0400 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Re: In Gaul, people press mouths together on the major thoroughfare I'm not so sure the plot is altogether lost, Gordon...in fact, I think it's all there. It's just so (amusingly) stiff. It makes me think of that SNL skit from not too many seasons ago, the husband and wife team from the music department, always leading off assembly's (The Renaissance fair is most memorable) with some stiff reading of a pop tune. Donna Summer's 'Hot Stuff' comes to mind as a good example. - -Chris; I'm sure it's "12 Incher Mel"..... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Mackie" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:02 AM Subject: In Gaul, people press mouths together on the major thoroughfare > Well folks....heres another feeble attempt....I had fun doing it though ! > > > In Gaul people press mouths together on the major thoroughfare > > > In the city centre > With my beloved Woolworth's pickpocket > In my personal "Battle against British taxation of the 18th century" > Popular music resonated innocently pure as triumphal success > Beneath garish gas-filled electrical advertising tubes > A young lady was blossoming > And an older lady was disappearing > In a middle class chamber on the outskirts of town > > One uttered " Accompany me to the Gavotte > Does one like to gavotte? > One adores to gavotte > Plus I said to this guy 'Those people don't take risks' > Those people appear to be far away form sentimental notions of coupling > They have smashed their way into organised religious buildings and > buildings of childhood education > And shaped it in the fashion of the petit bourgeois condition > > And we were tumbling, tumbling, stone(d) and tumbling > > In the city centre > The discos and coffee houses > Give a sensation of abandonment that one could wreak emotional damage > Performing the most up to date gavotte fashion > A windswept lass along with one who is the subject of an opera by > Gustave Charpentier > In cosmetically enhancing lingerie for women's breasts > Close fitting skirts and cheap costume jewellery with stones > reminiscent of Elvis's outfits > Quaffing the orchestra's ale > > Adolescent attachment was pressing mouths together below river crossings > Pressing mouths together inside automobiles pressing mouths together > inside coffee houses > Additionally many of us went striding down the main thoroughfare > Pressing each others mouths together akin to vivid gay symbolic pennants > Well endowed on vacation > > In Gaul people press mouths together on the main thoroughfare > Passionate French love mother, not inexpensive presentation > > And we were tumbling, tumbling, stone(d) and tumbling > > In the city centre > In the electronic bagatelle machine hall > Alongside this guys cranium stuffed with billiard- room presuasive sales talk > And tunes from the pop charts > This guy was modulating his tones around " Goodbye to Emotional Attachment' > At the same time gaining enough points to go again without paying > Allow those popular music choristers to arrive and escort us off afar > > Occasionally, Richard obtained an automobile, or Ronald obtained an > automobile or heavy metalled 12 incher Mel and his car obsessed > cranium > Together we would proceed in search of a social gathering for pleasure > Searching to resurrect the Son of God from lifelessness > Also we would have been pressing our mouths together in the rear > chair of the automobile > Excited by the On the Waterfront actor-type items which he uttered > > And we were tumbling, tumbling, stone(d) and tumbling > > > > Hmmm....i think Ive lost the plot altogether.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:50:06 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: miles of aisles (very NJC now) On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 03:04 PM, Garret wrote: > Walking to the store brought me right back to summer 2000 - Hyannis, > Ma (Can > you believe that is where I first met you Mr. Marshall?? It approaches > three years ago at this point). I can believe it was Hyannis... I can't believe it was three years ago, and I really can't fecking believe YOU TOOK ME TO THAT BLOODY CAFE, after I'd vowed a couple of years ago never to darken its doorstep again. Sheesh. There I was, spitting distance from the sea, gagging for dome decent seafood, and we ate *breakfast* at mid-day in some godforsaken greasy spoon. Still, the pain lessens with time... :-) - --Chris Marshall chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:34:49 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: watercourse here's my contribution. wally Watercourse The Christian feast on December 25 is approaching Perennial plants are being sawed at the base until they are knocked down completely Walls are being decked with parts of caribou And musical compositions anent delectation and mutual concord are being intoned I hanker for a watercourse on which I might flee by means of gliding over its frozen surface. Yet ice crystal precipitation is rare in this region Growth, foliage and other vegetation remain almost as vigorously fresh as in the more clement seasons I shall procure considerable amounts of officially issued currency And at a later point I shall depart from this unbalanced milieu I hanker for a watercourse on which I might flee by means of gliding over its frozen surface. I yearn for a watercourse of such length As I might instruct the terminal parts of my legs to move through air as though on wings. I hanker for a watercourse on which I might flee by means of gliding over its frozen surface. I caused my young and dear one to shed tears. He attempted to assist me with utmost effort He managed to make me feel free from pain, discomfort, restraint or formality And he was so forward and efficient in his amatory practices That the articulations between my femur, tibia and patella became wobbly and quite unstable. I hanker for a watercourse on which I might flee by means of gliding over its frozen surface. I am the kind of person the supervision and management of which people find highly strenuous I act in a way that invariably results in self-centeredness and unhappiness At this point in time I have failed to keep the allegiance of the most nearly perfect loved one I have at any moment in my life possessed. I hanker for a watercourse on which I might flee by means of gliding over its frozen surface. I yearn for a watercourse of such length As I might instruct the terminal parts of my legs to move through air as though on wings. I hanker for a watercourse on which I might flee by means of gliding over its frozen surface. I caused my young and dear one to bid a farewell. The Christian celebration immediately after the winter solstice is about to take place Revelers are felling arborescent forms As well as using large mammals akin to the deer as decorations Said revelers are also vocalizing to express cheerfulness and tranquility. I hanker for a watercourse on which I might flee by means of gliding over its frozen surface. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:19:11 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: the book of music history "I don't have to prove myself again," he says. "I know that if someone writes a book about music history, there'll be a good chapter on me." --Ricky Martin on his career I'll assume he means the book of *pop* music history, but still -- that statement takes a lot of cojones. There would have to be a hell of a lot of chapters for there to be one dedicated solely to him. (And I don't particularly like or dislike him, but a whole chapter on his musical contributions seems a bit much.) So I got to thinking . . . who would get the major chapters in the history of pop music? The Beatles? Michael Jackson? Carole King? Elvis Presley? Nirvana? Little Richard? Janis (Joplin, of course!)? Do you think Joni would get her own chapter? Or even get mentioned? Or would she get dragged kicking and screaming into the book of folk music history, with pop, jazz and other genres taking a pass on her? It seems to me that even though she's never sold as many records as the Beatles or Jacko, her influence on performers who came after her has been incredible. So I wonder . . . and I am also trying very hard not to do another Thesaurus Joni. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: Group activity - another fun game You Thesaurusians are amazing. Here's an amusing activity for folks who don't want to think so hard... When you ask Babelfish (online translation service) to translate the first verse of Big Yellow Taxi into Italian and then ask it to translate it back into English you get... They have paved the paradise and they have put in on a lottery of parking with a boutique indenting of the hotel To and a hot spot of oscillation too funny Jenny Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: Bryan writes: << just pick some songs and sing them in your best Bill Murray lounge singer style >> I have been doing this for 30 years! (Much to the chagrin of three decades worth of people!) - --Bob "Now I used to think that I was cool running around on fossil fuel, until I saw what I was doing was driving down the road to ruin..." JT Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:29:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: the book of music history I think it would depend on how the publisher wanted to organize the book, whether he or she would want to include chapters on individuals or simply make it an amalgamation or index of pop musicians with a brief history accompanying each entry. If the publisher did want individual chapters, I'm sure Joni would make the cut. She might not have a decade ago, but I think some of her whining and complaining has paid off and more people are paying attention to the fact that she is not just "that folk singer from the 70s." When you look at the list of artists she's influenced in some way, you can see that it encompasses the whole pop-music spectrum: Van Morrison, Diana Krall, Annie Lennox, Prince, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, Alanis Morrisette, Tony Bennett, Elvis Costello, Iggy Pop, Lou Reed, Wayne Shorter, Elton John, Public Enemy, Morrissey, Kris Kristopherson, Bill Frisell, Michael and Janet Jackson, James Hetfield, Snoop Dogg, Sarah McLachlan, Tori Amos, Joshua Redman, James Taylor, Peter Gabriel, Maxwell, Nazareth, Mary J. Blige, Chaka Khan, k.d. lang, Etta James, Cassandra Wilson, Cyndi Lauper, Wynona Judd, not to mention the recording artists on every single one of Bob Muller's Joni Cover Projects. I think Madonna would get her own chapter simply because she is the most famous "musician" in the world. Jacko would get one too, but it would be steeped in infamy. Ricky Martin...hmmm...I wouldn't kick him out of bed but to give him a chapter in the history of music? No. I'd relegate him to the "nice ass" category, right alongside J-Lo or Jello or whatever she's called these days. Any one of the artists I mentioned in the list above would precede him as an entry, I would hope. - -Andrew __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:33:53 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: Re: miles of aisles (very NJC now) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Marshall" > > I can believe it was Hyannis... I can't believe it was three years > ago, and I really can't fecking believe YOU TOOK ME TO THAT BLOODY > CAFE, after I'd vowed a couple of years ago never to darken its > doorstep again. Sheesh. There I was, spitting distance from the > sea, gagging for dome decent seafood, and we ate *breakfast* at > mid-day in some godforsaken greasy spoon. > > Still, the pain lessens with time... It may have been midday to the rest of the world, but to the Irish kids it was the crack of dawn:-) It was greasy and delicious!! How many kinds of egg and varieties of toast can one person have at any one time?? Seafood isn't something i do while smiling!!! I've had one or two very bad experiences and just cannot touch the stuff without being put into a very sickly state! However, you did later introduce me to the idea of green Thai curry which has rapidly become a favroutie of mine (see, you do have your uses;-) GARRET np- Joni, Pirate of Penance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:41:24 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: Re: miles of aisles/Gomer -- NJC well Bob, it is great to be posting again (helps me keep out of the sunshine that is currently haunting us!!). Thanks for telling me about Gomer Pyle! I'll go off and have a long think about the "you have more class.... " statement:) I guess Miley and Biddy might be an Irish equivalent?? Institutions in this country, and this country only! Then again, they were in a soap not a sitcom. I recently had the pleasure of getting to see the actor and actress who played Miley and Biddy (trust me, all Irish people know those names!) in a production of John B. Keanes "The Field". I'm not sure what was more impressive, seeing them together again (like reuniting Shatner and Nimoy, but with *less* sex appeal) or gettnig to see quite a good version of the Field. Mmmhmm, he is rambling again...... GARRET np - Joni, Cactus Tree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:04:39 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Yet another Joni choice on Desert Island Discs! Meera Syal was on today - for those who don't know, she's something of a national treasure on the UK, being one of the most well-known Asian (Punjabi Hindu in her case) women in the country as well as one of our best-loved TV actors and writers. She's written groundbreaking shows like Goodness Gracious Me and The Kumars at Number 42, novels like Anita & Me and film scripts like Bhaji On The Beach. Anyway, one of her choices was by a Canadian artist we all know and love. Quoth Meera: "Joni Mitchell was really important to me when I was a student." She went on to say how much she admired our Joan, and the song she chose was ... A Case Of You. Top woman! Again, anyone wanting to hear the programme can hear it on the BBC's website (www.bbc.co.uk, then search around and you'll find it). For UK listeners the programme will be repeated on Friday morning at 9.00am. Yes, Azeem, I was listening to the program on Sunday as I headed for Chiswick on the M4 - not the ideal situation for listening and I had missed quite a lot of the conversation. We had just hit Chiswick High Street when I heard those thrilling words "Joni Mitchell" and now that street will always be associated with ACOY, one of my all time favourite songs. By the time it had finished we had reached our destination so, before reading your post, I had already decided to search for the program on the BBC site so I could hear more of Meera's choices. However, I've just looked for it but can't find it listed and remember I had the same problem last time a Joni song was featured on Desert Island Discs. Are yo u sure it's possible to listen again and, if so, how do you do it? Plan B is to remember to record it on Friday morning. Thanks, Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:14:32 EDT From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Subject: Two Bobs Are Better Than One...(Joni Mitchell Shoes/ BUOT) I couldn't resist...I had to respond to these wonderful post ! Thank you Bob#1. Now I can finally go on the road with my Joni drag act, all I was missing were the shoes which after years of searching you have finally provided. Words don't begin to express the gratitude I feel. ( I thought I was going to have to settle for " Mary Janes," but I've been saved with a pair of "Joni Mitchells.") Thank you Bob#2. I have squatted on my perishables on many occasions, and would never had admitted it to anyone .You're enlightened lyrics have set me free, and for that I'm eternally gratedful. ( I guess I can close two closet doors today!) Later... Jonily Yours, Warren Keith p.s. Speaking of closets did anyone seen " Dateline " last night? Richard Chamberlin has finally come out of his !( Well duh !!! Who didn't know the man was gay?) I've had a crush on him every since I was a wee lad of seven. I couldn't be pried from the tube when " Dr. Kildare " was on, it was at that point that I realized how different I really was... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:31:23 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Two Bobs Are Better Than One...NJC Warren Keith writes: << Thank you Bob#2. I have squatted on my perishables on many occasions >> Thanks, Warren Keith, for the good words although I prefer to think of myself as Bob #1! << Speaking of closets did anyone seen " Dateline " last night? Richard Chamberlin has finally come out of his ! >> I think he has just finally *announced* it to the world that he is gay. When I lived in Hawaii ('88 to '89) it was common knowledge that he and his boyfriend shared a house there. (And nobody seemed to care at all, even way back then.) At one point, they received some sort of summons or fine for cutting down trees on their property and both of their names were in the news story as owners of the house, so I don't think he's been running around pretending to like girls or anything! I also saw him at a restaurant in LA dining with a table full of gorgeous A-list-type homos a few years later, so I think this is more of a public declaration kind of coming out than a lifestyle change. He must have a movie or a book on the way! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:38:45 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Two Bobs Are Better Than One...NJC In a message dated 6/2/2003 2:31:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, Murphycopy writes: > Thanks, Warren Keith, for the good words although I prefer > to think of myself > as Bob #1! Thanks Warren Keith for having your Bobs in order. Everyone knows that Bob Murphy is synonymous with #2. ;~) Glad I could help with your shoe dilemma, maybe you can understudy/open for John Kelly. Bob NP: Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Universally Speaking" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:28:43 EDT From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: Two Bobs Are Better Than One...NJC I, also, saw the Dateline in Richard Chamberlain, and was moved by him finally "coming out" at age 69! Good for him! Peaceful, loving life in hawaii, what could be better? Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:02:39 -0500 From: David Sadowski Subject: Re: Two Bobs Are Better Than One...(Joni Mitchell Shoes/ BUOT) When I first glanced at the header, I thought it said that two boobs are better than one. Which is true, of course, but a boob in the hand is worth two in the bush- or is it? Warrenkeith91354@aol.com wrote: >I couldn't resist...I had to respond to these wonderful post ! Thank you >Bob#1. Now I can finally go on the road with my Joni drag act, all I was missing >were the shoes which after years of searching you have finally provided. Words >don't begin to express the gratitude I feel. ( I thought I was going to have >to settle for " Mary Janes," but I've been saved with a pair of "Joni >Mitchells.") Thank you Bob#2. I have squatted on my perishables on many occasions, and > would never had admitted it to anyone .You're enlightened lyrics have set me >free, and for that I'm eternally gratedful. ( I guess I can close two closet >doors today!) Later... > >Jonily Yours, >Warren Keith > >p.s. Speaking of closets did anyone seen " Dateline " last night? Richard >Chamberlin has finally come out of his !( Well duh !!! Who didn't know the man >was gay?) I've had a crush on him every since I was a wee lad of seven. I >couldn't be pried from the tube when " Dr. Kildare " was on, it was at that point >that I realized how different I really was... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:44:37 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Yet another Joni choice on Desert Island Discs! In a message dated 02/06/2003 20:04:39 GMT Daylight Time, Gertus writes: > By the time it had finished we had reached our destination so, before > reading your post, I had already decided to search for the program on the BBC site > so I could hear more of Meera's choices. However, I've just looked for it > but can't find it listed and remember I had the same problem last time a Joni > song was featured on Desert Island Discs. Are you sure it's possible to > listen again and, if so, how do you do it? Seems I was wrong! I've had a good look too, and can't find any indication that "DID" can be listened to on line, though I'd been sure that it would be available. Most odd, and I suspect there's some crappy reason why, perhaps to do with the programme being made by an external production company or some such nonsense. Sorry folks! Azeem in London Morrissey - Vauxhall & I (his best album?) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #309 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)