From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #281 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, May 12 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 281 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni/James perma-vine (2nd call) ["John E McGloin" ] yikes njc ["Kate Bennett" ] northern cal shows coming up ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Joni/James perma-vine (2nd call) ["Wally Kairuz" ] re:wedding song ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: U.S. political, media content (njc) pc [Randy Remote ] mama mia (njc) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] RE: [NortheastJonifest] mama mia njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni video help needed [SoulQuest7@aol.com] Re: "Ritual", in praise of, njc [Michael Paz ] wedding songs NJC [MGVal@aol.com] RE: Joni video help needed ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 09:11:15 +0100 From: "John E McGloin" Subject: Joni/James perma-vine (2nd call) Hi I am offering the perma-vine cd to the first person to email me. I have had one request for an audio copy from Eduardo E. Paolini in Buenos Aires so far. Cheers John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 01:35:12 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: DED and other things mg>>The DED thread is timely, too, because I am thinking of using "Lucky Girl" for my walk down the aisle song next month...I thought about "Love" but the darkness of it has me avoiding it. (On the other hand, since there'll be an open bar outside the chapel before the ceremony, who the heck is going to notice?!?!)<< congratulations on your upcoming wedding mg...sorry we've never been to the same jonifest...hopefully one of these days we will meet...since you've got a bar outside your chapel it seems to me the appropriate jm song would be 'case of you' hehehe >>Jackson Browne is going to be playing at the Concord Pavilion on July 27th. Tickets go on sale May 18th.<< not sure if this date is also with steve earl & keb mo, i know some of the dates are...if so WOW! www.katebennett.com "Lyrically, it's a work of art overall. Brilliant writing, absolutely." Indie-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 01:38:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: yikes njc holy guacamole...it looks like i sent a whole digest with my last email...not only that but the digest began with several of my posts! yikes & so sorry...i blaim it on mercury retrograde... www.katebennett.com "Lyrically, it's a work of art overall. Brilliant writing, absolutely." Indie-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 02:12:05 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: northern cal shows coming up we're coming north next weekend, may 16-18 to play a couple of house concerts in berkeley & sebastopol...if anyone's in the hood, check out the calendar on my website for contact info...forgive me joni only's not sure who is on what list...so for some joni content...maybe we will even do a joni song...if you show up! (hope that counts) www.katebennett.com "Lyrically, it's a work of art overall. Brilliant writing, absolutely." Indie-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 06:23:19 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Joni/James perma-vine (2nd call) please please please excuse my ignorance and general lack of connection with reality, but what on earth is a permavine? i've been embarrassed to ask.... wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de John E McGloin Enviado el: Domingo, 11 de Mayo de 2003 05:11 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Joni/James perma-vine (2nd call) Hi I am offering the perma-vine cd to the first person to email me. I have had one request for an audio copy from Eduardo E. Paolini in Buenos Aires so far. Cheers John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 09:05:26 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni covers I'll be releasing my debut solo CD the first part of June. It includes a cover of "Carey", so maybe I should keep my mouth shut about other peoples' covers (glass houses and all), but I guess it's too late now. Thanks for your thoughts, Larry...Minnie's cover IS pretty ingratiating, and she adds those extremely high notes that only dogs should be able to hear in such a diva-esque way...plus she changes the lyric to "lay with strangers"...don't know if she was hoping for a hit, but it certainly diminishes the impact of the song. Thanks too for your pre-release announcement about your cover of Carey, keep me posted, I'm anxious t0o hear it. Like I said, 2003 is shaping up to be a big year for new releases of Joni covers. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 08:26:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Little Bird Subject: Happy Mother's Day all! Happy Mother's Day to all the great mother's out there, to the sons and daughters who love them, to Joni and Kilauren, and to every woman of heart and mind on this list! - -Andrew __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 10:50:35 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re:wedding song Hi MG, Have you considered playing "Underneath the Streetlight" for your wedding? This is a very upbeat love song, and it won't offend any wise guys that may be sitting in the Chapel. Lyrics: Yes I do I love you! I swear on the stars above I do! I swear on the streetlight on the corner Shoving back the shadows! One shadow cursing Another shadow laughing Underneath the streetlight I don't know where they're coming from I just see 'em passing Underneath the streetlight Yes I do I love you! I swear on the buildings above I do I swear on a billion yellow And T.V. blue windows Gayboys with their pants so tight Out in the neon light Underneath the street light A m-m-madman - madman Kicking over garbage cans Underneath the streetlight Yes I do I love you! I swear on the blinkin' planes above I do I swear on the truck at the stoplight With his airbrakes moaning All night the trucks roll Up to the tunnel-toll Underneath the streetlight They come rollin' rollin' Rollin' for a living Underneath the streetlight Yes I do I love you! I swear on the disco sparkle dark I do I swear on the be-bop boys Chasing the black bird Rock 'n roll broadcast Movin' up now full blast Underneath the streetlight They come dancin' dancin' Really rock 'n rollin' Underneath the streetlight Yes I do I love you I really love you Yes I do yes I do I love you! Mia _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 08:55:16 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: U.S. political, media content (njc) pc mike pritchard wrote: > Randy rote > >> It is just another blow to democracy by the villains in Washington, the > latest corporate giveaway by the ultimate friends of the billionaires and > multi-nationals. I can almost hear Jefferson screaming in anguish from > here.<< > > and would that be Thomas Jefferson, who owned slaves and backed legislation to > protect the rights of the slave owning classes and who presided over a country > that defined black people in its constitution as worth 60% of a white person? Yes, the very same. As a matter of fact, when the constitution was written, only land owners (the wealthy) were considered worthy of voting rights, and the idea of women having rights was so laughable it wasn't even in the ballpark (which hadn't been invented yet). Nevertheless- Jefferson and Madison pushed to have an eleventh amendment added to the Bill of Rights which would have prevented companies from growing so large as to monopolize sectors of industry or so powerful that they would influence "the people's government". Jefferson warned that the corporation is an incorrigible beast that will not-cannot- restrain itself, and perpetually seeks to expand its reach, wealth, and power. The founding fathers rejected his idea mainly because there was already universal contempt for large corporations, and they felt that state charters would keep things in check. Later Lincoln (who freed the slaves) in a letter in 1864 said "I see in the near future a crisis.....as a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and a era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety than ever before, even in the midst of war." Despite their imperfections, these men could see what would happen if money was allowed to multiply upon itself and make it's own rules. For more, see the book "Unequal Protection" by Thom Hartmann, which also details how the modern notion that corporations have the same rights as people was based on a clerical error in 1886 by an inept (or more likely paid off) legal secretary! So here we are, with a government run by the very corporations our (founding) fathers warned us about. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 12:57:08 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Little Green/Circle Game In a message dated 5/10/2003 11:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bobsart48 writes: > Speaking of that, which came first - Little Green, or The Circle Game ? > I certainly don't know for sure...my guess would be "Circle Game", although she may have written the two pretty much simultaneously. They're written in the same tuning...at least they seem to be; she's performed the two as a medley which is very moving. If they are in the same tuning originally, that's possibly an indication that they were written about the same time. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 19:08:51 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: "Ritual", in praise of, njc Hi Les, thanks for the endorsement. Real crap that you're working today. Hope you're getting some time off in lieu or something! Martin. In London. > Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 08:47:33 +0100 > From: "Ross, Les" > Subject: Subject: Re: "Ritual", in praise of, njc > > martin giles (uber sound genius) wrote > > This may be heresy to you, but you may like it - I did a copy for Les Ross > ;last > year, which he likes. > > Martin. In London. > > me : > > Oh yes baby! This is a corking piece of work! I can commend it whole > heartedly to all Yessians. > > Les (London...and at work today - bleuch) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 15:35:50 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: mama mia (njc) Angel of Darkness/Laura Nyro 1947-1997... dedicated to my Mama, Angelina who passed away 12-21-1993 pictured with my older brother Nicky Angel in the Dark Angel of my heart Come back to me Angel Whoa In the dark So I can see 'Cause I can't live no more Without an angel Of love so if you hear Come back to me come back Come back to me come back Answer my prayer Angel hear my song Because the night's so long Come back to me I don't know how I don't know where I'll be dreamin' and on my feet again 'Cause I can't laugh no more Without an angel So if you're there Come back to me come back Come back to me come back Answer my prayer Come back to me come back Come back to me come back Answer my prayer Come back to me come back Come back to me come back - ------------------ The dope that there is hope....Bruce [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of mom&Nicky.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 13:48:31 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] mama mia njc oh rose this is so lovely & you look so much like your beautiful mama angelina...& what a beautiful name... i too am thinking of my mama today ...(nancy 1925-1997)...she passed away during the time of princess diana's funeral, the same day as mother theresa's passing & it felt appropriate that so many in the world were in mourning like our family... i wish i had a photo of her scanned to share but i don't...i think of her & feel her presence so often, & especially today...the gifts she gave her children & grandchildren of true unconditional love, great humor, compassion, integrity... i am one of the very lucky ones to have had such a mama as this...everything good in me is to her credit...she lived her life so fully with love to the very end her only fear (as death closed in on her) was not of death itself because she had a strong belief in the spirit world...but that her memory would fade...never ever will that be possible & so as i write this wieth tears flowing now (i miss her earthly presence still so much) i would like to offer this song in her memory...one that was written in the wake of her passing...i have come to suspect that she may have been a co-writer: Indigo Blue Breathe into me exquisite beauty The sky is filled with light Look into me, in your eyes I see Numerous lifetimes of love From where we stand Ocean turning sand Leaving no trace Of where we've been The tide comes in Leaving us face to face And if its time spirit be my guide And help me to be wise Indigo blue in luminescent hues Ocean and sky are one From where we stand Ocean turning sand Leaving no trace Of where we've been The tide comes in Leaving us face to face Breathe into me exquisite beauty The sky is filled with light Look into me, in your eyes I see Numerous lifetimes of love www.katebennett.com "Lyrically, it's a work of art overall. Brilliant writing, absolutely." Indie-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 18:48:04 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] mama mia njc In a message dated 5/11/03 4:46:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: > oh rose this is so lovely & you look so much like your beautiful mama > angelina...& what a beautiful name... > That's a beautiful song Kate ...I'd love to hear you sing it sometime. thanks for the compliment, but NOT me! I look more like my dad's side of the family....lol. I got his nose, lol! but my mother's eyes....She was a real beauty in her youth....she reminded me a lot of Loretta Young...They say she died of a broken heart disease....the person responsible...I have forgiven.....because he's my blood...I think it was more the cigarettes though..I always cry and think of my Mom when I hear your beautiful song Irene, Kate. We have all been educated by our Mother's......they r the Myrtle's of the world....everything that stands for love, creativity, and most importantly fecundity. rosie in a rainy nj not ashamed of being glad I'm alive.... In the morning there are lovers in the street They look so high You brush against a stranger And you both apologize ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 16:42:37 -0700 From: Casey Certis-Milby Subject: perma-vine Mission accomplished! I'm ready to send on the Perma-Vine #1 copy of Joni and James, and send a copy to a burnerless friend. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 20:17:06 EDT From: SoulQuest7@aol.com Subject: Joni video help needed I'm looking for a copy of the Joni Mitchell Old Grey Whistle Test part two (with Blue). If anyone can help, please email me!!! ===om = Nick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 22:18:54 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: "Ritual", in praise of, njc I have to hear this! This sounds amazing. I love that record too. One of my all time faves. Best Paz > Lama said, > > >> Wow, sure. Wait a minute. There's one "catch". You have to promise not > to grimace when I sing falsetto on "I get up/I get down" >> in the billard room. It's been known to drive sane people out of the > room.. > > > But as I'm nuts Lama, I think I'll be able to cope. (Nuts about Joni and YES > anyway). I'll bring along a copy of my edited version of 'Tales' for you > too. I call it 'Topographic Puddles'. I sat down at the Sonic Solutions a > few years ago to see if I could tighten up the album a bit. (Mainly by > taking out all of 'The Ancient' except the song at the end. The acoustic > guitar section and the sone now form an introduction to 'Ritual'. This may > be heresy to you, but you may like it - I did a copy for Les Ross ;last > year, which he likes. > > Martin. In London. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 23:52:29 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: wedding songs NJC Smurf gets right to the heart of the matter: > But this is MG's wedding and she wants Joni! > > I do! I do! (want a Joni song!). I agree with Andrew that there is a lot of darkness and inappropriate wedding day analysis in her love songs; a perspective that never really worked well for me since I don't see things the same way that she seems to see. I also thought of using "Night Ride Home." There is such a quiet sincerity in the "I love the man beside me" line. OTOH, what I really want is a jazzy, upbeat tune that makes me almost want to skip down the aisle, which I do need to be wary about, though, because part of the "aisle" is a ramp and I'll be wearing rare heels. But with six weeks to go, I still have plenty of time to wade through my Joni. Thanks all! MG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 00:57:04 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Joni video help needed what IS that? wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de SoulQuest7@aol.com Enviado el: Domingo, 11 de Mayo de 2003 09:17 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Joni video help needed I'm looking for a copy of the Joni Mitchell Old Grey Whistle Test part two (with Blue). If anyone can help, please email me!!! ===om = Nick ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #281 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)