From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #154 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, March 2 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 154 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- I dream of Joni... NJC really.... ["Lucy Hone" ] Re: I dream of Joni... NJC really.... [AzeemAK@aol.com] PBS American Masters documentary on Joni April 2 [Mark129@cs.com] no pics wqhen it says pics [Jennymac48@aol.com] Nice Kitty Kitty njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: no pics when it says pics njc [Les Irvin ] joni video previews ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: i'm in the paper -- NJC -- pot laws [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: joni video previews [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: joni video previews [Murphycopy@aol.com] Annie Lennox NJC [Susan Guzzi ] Re: joni video previews [Catherine McKay ] Re: i'm in the paper -- NJC -- pot laws [Catherine McKay ] Kvelling by Mingus Mountain -- NJC, really [Murphycopy@aol.com] Video Previews, OMIGAWD! ["Christopher Treacy" ] "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . Now "did you get off the train and when did you get back on?" [Catherine ] Re: Video Previews, OMIGAWD! [KJHSF@aol.com] "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . [Doug ] Re: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . Now "did you get off the train and whe... [KJHS] Re: Annie Lennox NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Hello - new person here ["robin mortlock" ] Yet another review of Travelogue [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: i'm in the paper -- NJC -- pot laws ["J.David Sapp" ] Re: Joni on PBS Joni an American citizen??? [Mags N Brei ] Chords of Inquiry [Doug ] Re: old-timey Joni ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Covers #38 - LET'S WING SOME FRISBEES/FREEBIES! NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . Now "did you get off the train and when did you get back on?" ["Lori Fye"] Re: Jonatha Brooke fans njc ["Lori Fye" ] Re: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . [Relayer211@aol.com] Today's Library Links: March 2 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today in History: March 2 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 10:15:40 -0000 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: I dream of Joni... NJC really.... CAtching up with digests properly after invasion of the French for three days!!! YIkes... The dreaming of Joni thing is weird... I had a dream where I was singing in my local pub (as I used to with my guitar "after hours") and Elton John came in and "discovered me". He took me to Joni's house (I cannot remember much about the meeting.... this was a dream after all and I was a star struck fan..... but it was her) who heard me sing and she said "Yeah why not". An enormous studio became available to me and I sang Joni song after Joni song (some I had never heard before and have never ever heard) and my voice was fantastic and suddenly I had to go to an awards ceremony to get a cheque for THIRTY TWO POUNDS....I know... please remember it was a dream..and Joni was to be in the audience.. but I was so excited and spent the evening before the awards out on the town with Don Henley, Elton John, Bob Dylan, Aretha Franklin and (even more bizarrely) Tiny Tim.. As we sat at the table Joni walked by the window of the restaurant and waved but did not come in. I was really excited and could not get to sleep in my dream... and sat in my apartment over looking a huge lake with a vast moon lighting the water.. and felt soooooo happy and excited and confidant that I knew all the songs I was to sing and that I was going to be known as someone who could REALLY SING..... AND THEN I WOKE UP!!!!!!!! I tried so hard to go back to sleep and couldn't and I was so fed up for the rest of the day. I wish I could remember the unheard Joni songs of my dream, they were really beautiful..... why would they not be? but that is dreams for you. Lucy Who last night dreamed of not a lot, but there was something involving a flat tyre.... interpretation anyone? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 05:59:46 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: I dream of Joni... NJC really.... In a message dated 01/03/2003 10:16:35 GMT Standard Time, lulu.hone@virgin.net writes: > suddenly I had to go to an awards ceremony to get a cheque for THIRTY TWO > POUNDS....I know... please remember it was a dream..and Joni was to be in > the > audience.. but I was so excited and spent the evening before the awards out > on > the town with Don Henley, Elton John, Bob Dylan, Aretha Franklin and (even > more bizarrely) Tiny Tim.. What a fantastic dream Lucy! It's those little extra touches that make it irresistible - I mean, Tiny Tim?? Incidentally, I wouldn't have tagged your post NJC. Obviously it's not cut-and-dried, but I think it would be a pretty curmudgeonly JOlister who would object to this post going to the JO list, or at least someone who'd got out of bed on the wrong side. Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 10:20:50 EST From: Mark129@cs.com Subject: PBS American Masters documentary on Joni April 2 Hello, The American Masters documentary series on PBS will run the two hour film on Joni's career on or around April 2 depending on your local station so check with them for airdate. later, mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 10:31:56 EST From: Jennymac48@aol.com Subject: no pics wqhen it says pics Bob wrote: "...One complaint...Les, you specifically state "with photographs" but I didn't see any...waaaah, I want my pics! :~)" This happens all the time. I've emailed Les several times in different ways about this and never get a response. What's the deal? Anyone??? Love Jenny Mac ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 11:03:58 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Nice Kitty Kitty njc For those who like cats, but can't have one, for various reasons - here's a virtual kitty that's really cute. If you move your mouse around, the cat will follow it or purr or meow or whatever. This cat is so cute! Someone sent me this link at work and I tried it at both work and home and it works a lot better at home (probably having something to do with internet service and speed of the PC being better at home than at work.) http://www.broenink-art.nl/maukie.swf ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 09:24:05 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: no pics when it says pics njc At 3/1/2003 08:31 AM, Jennymac48@aol.com wrote: >This happens all the time. I've emailed Les several times in different ways >about this and never get a response. What's the deal? Anyone??? 'Cause I'm a slacker! It's some programming error that keeps getting elevated higher and higher on my priority list every time it's mentioned... Les ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 11:00:47 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: joni video previews Someone may have beaten me to this, but.....have you seen the "Woman of Heart and Mind" video previews? They are up on the Jonimitchell.com website. Gotta run and finish watching, Mia _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:37:04 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: i'm in the paper -- NJC -- pot laws David writes: << Click below - I made the paper: http://www.columbiatribune.com/2003/Jan/20030126News004.asp >> Hi, David: Thanks for forwarding the link to the article about medical marijuana use. While I would never use it myself ;-), I just don't "get" pot laws, especially as they relate to those who are suffering with illnesses and conditions that are relieved by marijuana. People can go to liquor stores anywhere and get enough alcohol to drink themselves to DEATH. But if the same people smoked or ingested all the marijuana they possibly could, they would most likely just fall asleep! But that's another issue . . . The issue of medical marijuana use should have been settled years ago in favor of patients who want it, period. I bit that if some mega-drug company could figure out a way to own the rights to marijuana, patients who need it would have it in no time. Good luck in your fight to get the pot laws overturned for medical use. One more thing . . . you have beautiful hardwood floors! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:38:13 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: joni video previews In a message dated 3/1/2003 12:01:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, hvnphun16@hotmail.com writes: > Someone may have beaten me to this, but.....have you seen the "Woman of > Heart and Mind" video previews? They are up on the Jonimitchell.com > website. > Thanks for the heads up! Those videos are amazing. I've read interviews with people who knew Joni early on, and they always spoke about how breathtakingly beautiful she was. There are images of her in those videos I'd never seen before, and she is stunning beyond belief. It's easy to see how Nash was bowled over by her talent and her beauty. I can't wait to see this documentary. I think it's going to be the vehicle that finally presents Joni in a way that will satisfy her fans. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:43:42 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: joni video previews Ken writes: << I can't wait to see this documentary. I think it's going to be the vehicle that finally presents Joni in a way that will satisfy her fans. >> And I predict WE will all have a big knockdown, eye-scratching, hair-pulling brouhaha over it! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 10:00:23 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Annie Lennox NJC Annie Lennox tickets went on sale here in Chicago this morning. I had not planned on going till my best friend insisted I could work out the ticket ($100) with her. So she called me at 6 am to be sure I would wake her just in case she didn't get up. She just phoned and told me that we have 10th row! Not center but so what! I have been to the Schubert it is quite cozy as far as theaters go. I am so excited! Annie is soooo damn sexy and she can sing and perform a little too. And I only have to wait one month! Wooooo Hoooooooo! What a Sweet Dream ... come true! Peace, Susan P.S. I forget right now, what Joni does Annie cover? ===== Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:39:58 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni video previews --- mia ortlieb wrote: > Someone may have beaten me to this, but.....have you > seen the "Woman of > Heart and Mind" video previews? They are up on the > Jonimitchell.com > website. Thanks for posting this, Mia, and thanks, Jim Jo for putting these up on www.jonimitchell.com . These are wonderful. Joni Mitchell is/was heartbreakingly beautiful! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:44:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: i'm in the paper -- NJC -- pot laws --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Thanks for forwarding the link to the article about > medical marijuana use. > While I would never use it myself ;-), I just don't > "get" pot laws, > especially as they relate to those who are suffering > with illnesses and > conditions that are relieved by marijuana. People > can go to liquor stores > anywhere and get enough alcohol to drink themselves > to DEATH. But if the same > people smoked or ingested all the marijuana they > possibly could, they would > most likely just fall asleep! But that's another > issue . . . > > The issue of medical marijuana use should have been > settled years ago in > favor of patients who want it, period. I bit that if > some mega-drug company > could figure out a way to own the rights to > marijuana, patients who need it > would have it in no time. > > Good luck in your fight to get the pot laws > overturned for medical use. I don't get it either. I was never into pot myself (no real reasons why not, I just didn't get into it - to me, the worst thing about it is that it's smoking - and I don't smoke; and there are a few people who use it way too much, but it seems to do less harm than alcohol - although, what about the brain cancer link? thinking about Bob Marley) but I don't see why it's illegal esp., as you say, for medical purposes. There are some people here in Canada who've won the right to use it for medicinal purposes, but these tend to be one-of fights and not extended to the population at large. And, Catch-22, where do you get the stuff? You can't get it at a drugstore, the gov't doesn't want to provide it, so your options are to buy it illegally (which makes allowing it to be legal for medicinal purposes a mockery), or you have to grow your own (which I believe most people here that use it this way do.) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:46:59 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Annie Lennox NJC --- Susan Guzzi wrote: > Annie Lennox tickets went on sale here in Chicago > this morning. I had not planned on going till > my best friend insisted I could work out the ticket > ($100) with her. They're $100 (or $115?) in Toronto too (that's CDN$), so maybe it's a better deal than I thought. But cripes! That's a lotta cash! I'm going to have to try to win a ticket in one of those radio contests! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:08:27 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Kvelling by Mingus Mountain -- NJC, really A friend of mine in Arizona sent me an e-mail (the subject line: Look at me, I'm kvelling!) which had a link to an article about his daughter winning a local spelling bee. Anyway, I was intrigued by this line from the article: << The winner and runner-up, both 10 years old, represent both sides of Mingus Mountain - a girl from Sedona and a boy from Prescott. >> Mingus Mountain? I've never heard of it, but it sounds like a great place for a SW Jonifest! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:12:49 -0500 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Video Previews, OMIGAWD! Geez, I almost burst into tears of joy watching these...I really cannot wait. For many of us, this documentary is a dream come true...long time in coming. In the preview with Graham Nash talking about the night he met Joni, just before he says it was a night he'll never ever forget, there's a B&W full body shot of JM, seated, that's intensely beautiful. I wonder where it came from...in all my years of hunting and collecting Joni, I've never seen it before. maybe Graham took it. - -Chris PS. SO, we are now to understand that the 2 part CBC shows and the 2hr. PBS American Masters are the same thing? OK, so if that's the case, then where on earth is the film of The Making of Travelogue?? Any takers?? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:26:26 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . I'm always running behind the times when it comes to Joni's work. I hopped off the train at "Hejira" and didn't get back on until "Chalk Mark." But I really have grown to love "Hejira" lately. (I guess that's probably why I am reserving judgment on "Travelogue" for a few decades! ) I used to only listen to "Amelia," one of the greatest songs ever written, on "Hejira." Lately I have been listening to the whole CD. Wow, what a masterpiece! I don't know why it took me a quarter of a century to "get" it, but thank God I finally did. Has this happened to you? Have you ever grown to love any of Joni's work many years after it was released? Am I going to be put in the JMDL slow class for admitting this? I know I probably couldn't find any other group on the web with less need of a Joni refresher course, but I have included the words to "Hejira" -- the song -- below. This is cut and pasted from the lyrics on the JMDL Lyrics page, so I hope it comes through without Martian symbols. Hejira by Joni Mitchell I'm traveling in some vehicle I'm sitting in some cafe A defector from the petty wars That shell shock love away There's comfort in melancholy When there's no need to explain It's just as natural as the weather In this moody sky today In our possessive coupling So much could not be expressed So now I'm returning to myself These things that you and I suppressed I see something of myself in everyone Just at this moment of the world As snow gathers like bolts of lace Waltzing on a ballroom girl You know it never has been easy Whether you do or you do not resign Whether you travel the breadth of extremities Or stick to some straighter line Now here's a man and a woman sitting on a rock They're either going to thaw out or freeze Listen Strains of Benny Goodman Coming through the snow and the pinewood trees I'm porous with travel fever But you know I'm so glad to be on my own Still somehow the slightest touch of a stranger Can set up trembling in my bones I know no one's going to show me everything We all come and go unknown Each so deep and superficial Between the forceps and the stone Well I looked at the granite markers Those tribute to finality to eternity And then I looked at myself here Chicken scratching for my immortality In the church they light the candles And the wax rolls down like tears There's the hope and the hopelessness I've witnessed thirty years We're only particles of change I know I know Orbiting around the sun But how can I have that point of view When I'm always bound and tied to someone White flags of winter chimneys Waving truce against the moon In the mirrors of a modern bank From the window of a hotel room I'm traveling in some vehicle I'm sitting in some cafe A defector from the petty wars Until love sucks me back that way Copyright ) 1976; Crazy Crow Music ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:17:01 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . Now "did you get off the train and when did you get back on?" --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > I'm always running behind the times when it comes to > Joni's work. I hopped > off the train at "Hejira" and didn't get back on > until "Chalk Mark." But I > really have grown to love "Hejira" lately. (I guess > that's probably why I am > reserving judgment on "Travelogue" for a few > decades! ) [...] > > Has this happened to you? Have you ever grown to > love any of Joni's work many > years after it was released? Am I going to be put in > the JMDL slow class for > admitting this? That's a good question, Smurph and sounds like it could make for a good thread. I had to go back & make a chart of when Joni's albums came out and compare them to what was happening in my life at each one. I first got on the train at Clouds, shortly after it was released, when I was 16. I was immediately hooked & so went and bought Song to a Seagull. Over the course of the next few years I bought each album as soon as it came out, until Miles of Aisles in fall of 74. I was at university in Quebec city that year, so I missed this one. I did hear it later at my sister's place and loved it, but never bought it for years. Then went back to buying as soon as they came out for Hissing and Hejira. Then was a long gap and that's because that was around the time I met my (shit-head) ex-husband. So I fell away from Joni for Don Juan, Mingus and Shadows and Light. Got back on for WTRF and DED, then fell off the train again for Chalk Mark and Night Ride. Got back on for Turbulent Indigo (at whichpoint, I went back and bought CM and NR). Haven't fallen off the train since. Discovered JoniMitchell.com and jmdl.com just before Taming the Tiger and at that point bought the ones I had missed. The ones that stand out for me (of the ones I missed, that is) are Mingus and Don Juan. I don't think I had even heard any individual songs off either of these (except for maybe "God must be a boogie man" which sounded familiar for some reason) and it was like falling in love all over again. I don't think falling off the train - or running behind the times - is necessarily a bad thing if you can discover something you never knew before, or rediscover something you thought you had known. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:28:35 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Video Previews, OMIGAWD! In a message dated 3/1/2003 3:14:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, whizzboom@attbi.com writes: > there's a B&W full body > shot of JM, seated, that's intensely beautiful. I wonder where it came > from.. I was wondering the same thing myself. Joni is seated with knees slightly bent before her and her arms are wrapped around them. At first glance, it looked like a photo of Stevie Nicks to me. I've always considered Joni strikingly beautiful, but those early shots of her glam-60's-era-false-eyelash-wearing look are just unbelievable. She rivals any super model of that era (or any era) in the looks department. And then, she reinvents her self by scrubbing it all away and out emerges the doe eyed prairie beauty! It's interesting to note that Joni peeled away the glam look to reinvent herself. For others, reinvention seems to be placing on one mask after another. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:29:29 -0500 From: Doug Subject: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . Bob Wrote: I'm always running behind the times when it comes to Joni's work. I hopped off the train at "Hejira" and didn't get back on until "Chalk Mark." But I really have grown to love "Hejira" lately. (I guess that's probably why I am reserving judgment on "Travelogue" for a few decades! ) I hopped off about the same time you did, Bob. I only liked about half of HOSL, so after 7 great albums with not a bad song on any I started to lose interest. I saw Joni with the Rolling Thunder Revue in 1975 at the Montreal Forum, She played Coyote which I didn't like at all and I never bought another album until Travelogue. I do seem to remember hearing her on the radio with songs I sort-of liked ( probably NRH ) but not enough to buy the album. I recently bought the Mendel Art Gallery book and when I saw the lyrics to Song For Sharon printed there it just looked like a personal letter to a close friend, I couldn't believe it was actually a song, having never heard it. And a good song it is. Travelogue has introduced me to some of that music I missed in the 80s and 90s. I now have a copy of Hejira, though unlike many on this list I wouldn't call it her best, maybe its the electric guitar that turns me off. One of the things I love about this list is the diversity of opinion helped by the range of ages. It seems strange and wonderful to hear of someone first "getting" Joni with Hejira or NRH long after I had given up. Looking forward to the CBC show, I nearly cried watching that first video clip. Is anyone sure whether the PBS show is the same thing? Doug ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:37:55 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . Now "did you get off the train and whe... I wasn't current with Joni until Dog Eat Dog. I discovered her in 1984 or so. But, I do share the experience of purchasing the records and having them sit around until suddenly "getting" them. I owned Blue for 9 months or so before it became a daily listen. Hissing took from January to July one year. I'd put it on and couldn't "hear" what was going on because my expectations were for something different. I was wanting more Court and Spark, I guess. And then, BOOM, it just clicked for me. I remember hearing Don't Interrupt the Sorrow and thinking how tight the band was and how that song just jams! (Although, what does she mean by "your notches liberation doll?" just kidding) KEN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:46:05 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Annie Lennox NJC In a message dated 3/1/2003 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, groovchacha@yahoo.com writes: > P.S. I forget right now, what Joni does Annie cover? > Ladies of the Canyon, and it's a beaut as you can well imagine! Bob, back "home" to the regular list as of today NP: 2pac feet, yukmouth & Outlawz - "Still Ballin'" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 22:43:13 +0000 From: "robin mortlock" Subject: Hello - new person here Hello everyone - this is my first official correct entry to this list - the last one was an undeleted digest packed full of repeated information which must have made for a great intro - so thanks to all the very kind little prompts that people have included in their welcoming emails. It wont happen again!! Anyway, I was asked how long i had been listening to Joni because this is what all you "old fogies" want to hear - why do you assume i am not an old fogie, is it because i cannot follow simple instructions about returning emails ? :-) Here is my Joni story - my brother was a big fan (student years do that to people and i missed all of that jazz coming from the old school 'university of life' way of thinking) and he taped "For Free" in a compilation for me. It didnt really reach me, i must have been around 24 at this stage and was living in London and doing BAD stuff........a couple of years later i moved to Bristol and hired Turbulent Indigo and Don Juan's.. from the record library and taped them. And fell in love.....with music, imagination, sorrow, art, everything... and oh yeah, Joni. I shifted consciousness in an artistic way and I havent looked back. I consider myself a fully fledged obssessive taking great personal offense at ANYONE who criticises or doesnt understandthis womans music. For the Roses is beginning to be a very strong timeless standard that does shift and move again each time but i REALLY have to be in the right mood for this to happen. In a recent digest someone mentioned "Nothing Can Be Done" as a weak track - the context and meaning of "weak" was discussed but that is not enough. The song is very far from weak. A song with that title is not going to be musically 'full'. The spare, lonely bass riff and tight vocal melody are all is needed (especially in the context of the album) to create a frustrated feeling of 80's wealth and the cold vacuum of love losing. Horses for courses but that song is magic. I was bored with the political ranting - or ego infomation swapping - that featured alot in the digest recently. We hear about it alot over here and of course it affects us all but we are not struggling with victim/aggressor mentality. It seems to the rest of the world that 9/11 posed to settle a karmic debt that the U.S is having a big problem handling...... anyway, i am starting it all off again.....sorry. I have a big 'flu head cold shitty thing - poor me poor me poor me!!! More soon........ Robin Robin > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:10:02 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: turns out there is Joni content Thanks to those who sent me supporting notes and thoughts. If you look at my picture over my right shoulder, above the small lamp on the table you can see the bottom of a blue poster framed in silver. Guess what? That is the voices poster with the TI painting. I guess I should have had a find the Joni content contest and given away one of those famous frisbees .:~) click here: http://www.columbiatribune.com/2003/Jan/20030126News004.asp peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:04:09 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Yet another review of Travelogue This oh too late, but short & sweet review of T'log was in the March issue of "Genre" magazine. "While most singers are rehashing old material on greatest hits compilations, Joni Mitchell takes it one step further. Mitchell delivers Travelogue, 22 of her most personal songs from the beginning of her career to the present. The difference here is that Mitchell re-recorded each of these masterpieces with a full orchestra. The singer-songwriter has earned the right to revisit her catelogue, as her voice has taken on a moody resonance, rich with wisdom. This double-disc collection takes Mitchell's astounding catelogue full circle, so it's apropos that it concludes with one of her earliest gems, "The Circle Game." As a speciall side trip, pop disc one into your computer for a musical journey featuring her paintings. The best perk of owning Travelogue is you can take this trip anywhere, anytime." What I found amusing was on the same page of this review, which I read first. It was an interview with a recording artist from Sweden. His name is Jay-Jay Johanson. I thought immediately of our own Jim (J.J.) Johanson from JoniMitchell.com. Then I look over and see the T-log review. So Jim, is this what you do in your spare time? :~), and btw, GREAT job on the new video previews! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:34:48 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Re: i'm in the paper -- NJC -- pot laws Thanks Smurf. My partner of 27 years,Chester, and I designed and built our home 4 years ago. We could afford to do so in Mo. That is why we left our home of 20 years - SF - just couldn't afford to do that there. It was difficult but we've adjusted and love our home. peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:44:57 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Hello - new person here In a message dated 3/1/2003 5:44:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, robinjamesmortlock@hotmail.com writes: > In a recent digest someone mentioned "Nothing Can Be Done" as a weak > track - the context and meaning of "weak" was discussed but that is not > enough. The song is very far from weak. > > Welcome Robin! I agree with you about Nothin Can Be Done. In the Library of Mitchell/Klein Collaborations, this is a favorite. In fact, I like this track better than Come In From the Cold from the same CD. I like it when Joni writes about growing old: "First you're green, then you're gray!" Looking forward to more of your posts! KEN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:05:44 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hello - new person here Hello, Robin - and welcome! Great intro/story! > In a recent digest someone mentioned "Nothing Can Be Done" as a weak > track - the context and meaning of "weak" was discussed but that is not > enough. That might have been one of my posts - I remember saying that the Klein-Joni compositions were mostly pretty weak. I guess you make some good points in its defense, but for me the melody is sorely lacking. I mean, without having it play in the background try and sing it. If you can, you're doing better than me. My mind draws a blank because there's just not enough there to give me to hang onto. Certainly not the case with the rest of NRH. Plus the lyrics are vague & cliched, the whole "my heart is a smokin' gun" thing. It's not that it's so bad...Joni's dilemma is that she sets the bar so high that sometimes an average song seems inferior. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "The Return of Jackie & Judy" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:21:18 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . In a message dated 3/1/2003 3:27:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, Murphycopy@aol.com writes: > Has this happened to you? Have you ever grown to love any of Joni's work > many > years after it was released? A couple of examples for me...when some of Joni's "Clouds" songs were on the radio, I didn't care for her voice at all. It wasn't until C&S that she really grabbed me, and I pretty much got everything elsethat came after as soon as it came out, still steering clear of the earlier stuff. I was really lukewarm about Mingus when it first came out, but that's most likely because I was into punk rock at the time. Now I love it...thanks again to Ron for prompting for me to enjoy it many times this week! And of course, I've gone back and picked up & picked up on all that early stuff too, and love it as well. As for Hejira, I liked it when I first heard it - but I couldn't appreciate where she was coming from lyrically. Like you say, that comes with time & life experience. Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)(Brownsville Mix) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:04:48 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers #38 - 38 Special! Can't believe it's March already...guess it's time to trot out another collection of Joni covers. Or should I say "March out"...anyway, here goes: This month's assortment includes contributions from me and: Stephen Elliott John van Tiel Sue McNamara (and thanks to Mark Tatum for a nice lead!) And here's the shiny gems contained within...(everyone now...OOOH! AAAAH!): 1. Barbra Streisand - I Don't Know Where I Stand(live): This is an unreleased recording from Babs' 1973 Daniel Ellsburg fundraiser. There's a little intro bit where Barbra admits her love for Joni, which is pretty cool too. 2. Solex - You're So Square: This one is sort of unique because they do a cover of Joni's cover of the Lieber/Stoller number. That is to say, they sing "toot & talk" which was Joni's alteration. Weird but fun. 3. Sea Chanters - Both Sides Now: The US Navy chorus...seamen singing BSN lustily. Don't ask, don't tell boys. 4. Itxaso & Daniel Perez - Cherokee Louise 5. Itxaso & Daniel Perez - Night Ride Home: These two come to us from Spain, and as usual the Europeans are always doing the newer Joni stuff, God bless 'em. This is the only other studio take of "Louise" that I'm aware of, and even though Itxaso sings in a very strong accent, all of the feeling comes through and these 2 are just lovely. 6. Pat Valentine - Chelsea Morning: A couple weeks late for Valentines' Day. A pretty instrumental. 7. Julie Felix - Both Sides Now - One of the earlier BSN covers, from folk maven Felix in 1968. 8. Karrin Allyson - Blue Motel Room: Followed by one of the newer covers, from 2002, and one of the best! Karrin takes this song one step closer to the standard it will someday be! 9. Euro Grass - Woodstock: Bluegrass from Europe (hence the name), these guys are great! Mandolin, Banjo, and other sounds to get those toes a-tappin'! 10. The Girls Next Door - River: I wish I had a River I could drown them in...college acapella from Illinois...IlliNOISE... 11. David Snell - Both Sides Now: BSN on the harp. 12. Lawrence University Jazz Ensemble & Jazz Singers - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: Another college group, but this gang does a lot better. Very nice musicians, and vocals too. From Colorado, the land of Les! 13. Ensemble Petit & Screen Land Orchestra - The Circle Game: Muzak. 14. Patricia van Nunen - Blue 15. Patricia van Nunen - Woodstock: Dutch jazz singer van Nunen scores 2-for-2 with these great interpretations, haunting & lovely. 16. Dust & Ashes - Both Sides Now: Cheesy I suppose, but I like the guitar & the harmonies. 17. Jazzbum - Free Man In Paris: Very nice jazz-ish cover, the Jazzbum is based in the Pacific Northwest, so if you get a chance to check him out, do it. 18. Susan & Fran - Chelsea Morning (Hebrew): I love these non-English language covers...this one's no exception, our first kosher cover! 19. Duncan Sheik - Court & Spark: Another unreleased goodie, this one from a radio appearance. The quality of the recording is good, I just wonder what ol' Dunc did with the money his Momma gave him for voice lessons... So there you have it...Volume 38 in the seemingly never-ending chain of salutes to the composer we love & adore. Stay tuned for news of how you can win a copy for your very own! Bob NP: Susan & Fran, "Chelsea Morning" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:21:02 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers #38 - LET'S WING SOME FRISBEES/FREEBIES! I'll run my usual guessing contest, but here's a chance to snag a free copy of #38 early: - -The first JMDL'er currently living in Virginia to respond gets a freebie; and - -The first JMDL'er to respond with a "B" in their LAST name gets a freebie. And as always I'll be giving 2 copies away to the 2 who can come closest to guessing the Joni song/album I've picked. Just send me a private answer to this post with a song title and the record it appears on. For instance, last month's pick was: Refuge Of The Roads - Travelogue Ready...set...go! :~) Bob NP: David Gray, "Sell Sell Sell" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 20:56:04 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Joni on PBS According to this schedule: http://www.pbs.org/whatson/schedulex/daily.html?date=2003-04-2 The show is called "Chords of Inquiry" and appears to be 90 minutes long. Doug Who's still trying to figure out why his posts don't look the way he typed them ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:05:25 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Joni on PBS Joni an American citizen??? Doug wrote: According to this schedule: http://www.pbs.org/whatson/schedulex/daily.html?date=2003-04-2 The show is called "Chords of Inquiry" and appears to be 90 minutes long. i just checked out your link and according to 'them' they say that Joni is an American citizen....wot????? this inquiring Canadian mind wants to know! Moogs. You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 21:23:52 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Joni on PBS Joni an American citizen??? I didn't even see that link. I think they're wrong about the Buddhist thing too. I guess we'll have to watch it. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 22:17:41 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Chords of Inquiry Thats about the dumbest title I've ever heard. Doug "I'm the chairman of the bored"-Iggy Pop ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 20:22:13 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: old-timey Joni I could barely wait to get home to chime in with this one (which I heard while driving to Ohio on Friday): Richard got married to a figure skater And he bought her a dishwasher and a coffee percolator When was the last time you percolated coffee?? Who remembers that old Chase & Sanborn commercial with the "percolator" sound? c c E d c E d a a a a Lori, without the energy to properly represent sheet music ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 23:39:08 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers #38 - LET'S WING SOME FRISBEES/FREEBIES! NJC In a message dated 3/1/03 8:22:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > -The first JMDL'er to respond with a "B" in their LAST name gets a freebie. > > My real name is Jimmy Stewbart, do I win anything? :~) and my guess would be The White Album, "Ob-la di, Ob-la da" . Is that it Bob , is it ? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 20:48:00 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . Now "did you get off the train and when did you get back on?" Smurf ... > hopped off the train at "Hejira" and didn't get back on until "Chalk > Mark." I hopped ON the train at "Hejira" when I was 19, and have spent the last 26 years wandering through the various cars, with no intention of ever leaving. Lori, whose favorite is still "Hejira" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 20:51:57 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Jonatha Brooke fans njc Catherine wrote: > I just rec'd in the mail the European release of > Jonatha Brooke's "Steady Pull" CD. It looks like it's > autographed. Cool. I ordered this through her website, > www.jonathabrooke.com I think Jonatha autographs everything purchased directly through her site. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 23:55:48 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: "Hejira" -- Oh, I get it now . . . What amazes me about "Hejira"(the song and album) is how many great lyrics there are, how wise the words, how I relate to them. "You know it never has been easy whether you do or you do not resign, whether you travel the depth of extremities or stick to some straighter line"..." "I see something of myself in everyone at this moment of the world..." "each so deep and superficial between the forceps and the stone" "some will tell you where they've gone, some will tell you where to go...but till you get there yourself you never really know" "here is the hope and the hopelessness I've witnessed all these years" And many more... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 02:07:55 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: March 2 On March 2 the following item was published: 1978: "Joni Mitchell Meets Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" - Circus (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=715 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 02:07:55 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: March 2 1972: Joni performed at the Academy of Music in Philadelphia 1996: Joni received Canadian Television's GEMINI AWARD for Best Performance in a Performing Arts Program or Series for her appearance on MuchMusic's Intimate & Interactive Special. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #154 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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