From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #95 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, February 6 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 095 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC ["Jim] Re: Queen of England NJC [sl.m@shaw.ca] Re: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC [sl.m@] RE: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC [sl.m@] NJC welfare ["Kate Bennett" ] Fwd: Question for seller -- Item #2506076790/ Joni CDs [Aerchak@aol.com] Conditional recommendation: a movie called "The Hours", njc ["Kate Bennet] Re: Joni's gay fans???? [Rusty10113@aol.com] Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL [Rusty] Re: NJC welfare [Mags N Brei ] Re: Gays' interest in Joni now njc I guess [Catherine McKay ] RE: Song choices for altos - any suggestions? njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC welfare ["kakki" ] Claud, where are you ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: NJC White collar frauds ["kakki" ] Re: NJC For Fred [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC welfare [sl.m@shaw.ca] Re: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC [Cath] STephin Merritt and Magnetic Fields NJC ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC [sl.m@] RE: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC [Cath] Re: NJC LP's v CD [Catherine McKay ] RE: Gays' interest in Joni ["patrick leader" ] Re: Song choices for altos - any suggestions? njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Conditional recommendation: a movie called "The Hours", njc [Susan Gu] Re: Queen of England NJC ["kakki" ] Re: Queen of England NJC [sl.m@shaw.ca] Re: Queen of England NJC ["kakki" ] Joni finding at Wherehouse [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Joni 45's ? ["Happy The Man" ] Re: Joni 45's ? ["Happy The Man" ] Re: Joni 45's ? ["Happy The Man" ] Today in History: February 6 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: February 6 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:03:46 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC Hey, now, Catherine. He's just using the Brit spellings. Have a little respect for a foreign culture! Here's a glossary: ================================ Brit Canadian American - ---- -------- -------- crab carbs "bland substitute for red meat" wing bumper "pedestrian opportunity" neighbour neighbor "madman in the axis of evil" See? Hey, if there's anything I can do to help international understanding, I'm *THERE*. Lama McKay said, > One of the things I enjoy about this list is being able to translate Colinese into English. I'm getting very good at it. :-) > colin wrote: >> There are many societeis that have high fat diest and they do not suffer the rates of heart disease the some other societies do. Mianky because thy also have lower crab in their diets. Painting fat as the abddy is no longer scientifically correct. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:09:06 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Queen of England NJC He's the spitting image of Hewitt, although everyone denies they even knew each other at that time. Sarah At 11:14 PM +0000 02/05/2003, colin wrote: >btw, don't you think Harry is very unlike any of the royals:? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:11:30 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC It's SO hard to stick to that. The crispbread I eat has 10 mgs carbs - - or crabs if you insist ;-) - in each slice, and they're tiny slices. . . wouldn't fill a mouse up. Sarah At 11:17 PM +0000 02/05/2003, colin wrote: >>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:14:31 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: RE: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC Sounds fabulous Jim. Mouth watering. . . Muffins are my favourite thing, hot and buttered (or Benecoled) with a hot cup of Earl Grey (with milk like a yob). And it has to be raining outside. Nothing to beat it. ;-) Sarah At 7:11 PM -0500 02/05/2003, Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama) wrote: >On an English muffin, I put a cholesterol-lowering butter substitute called >"Benecol", Grey Poupon mustard, freshly ground black pepper, & oregano. >Seriously. > >Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:10:11 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: NJC welfare >>she was receiving welfare payments and then applied for a student loan so she could go to university.<< receiving student loans or scholarships while receiving welfare funds is totally allowable in the usa, or at least it was before the system was revamped... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:14:26 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Question for seller -- Item #2506076790/ Joni CDs Thought this might be of interest to JMDLers. Andrea Return-Path: Received: from rly-st08.mail.aol.com (rly-st08.mail.aol.com [172.20.75.165]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILINYC21-0205144945; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 14:49:45 -0500 Received: from rly-xk05.mx.aol.com (rly-xk05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by rly-st08.mail.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN7-0205144922; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 14:49:22 -0500 Received: from mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.173]) by rly-xk05.mx.aol.com (v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXK510-0205140748; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 14:07:48 -0500 Received: from default (gosax1-204.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.189.204]) by mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id h15J7Zt31915 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:07:35 +1100 Message-ID: <008501c2cd49$e52f8a80$ccbd8ec6@default> From: "Andy Renwick" To: Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2506076790 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:07:57 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Renwick" To: Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:06 AM Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2506076790 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Renwick" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:05 AM > Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2506076790 > > > > Hello and thank you for your interest. These discs as I mentioned are > from > > my personal collection, and I must say it was not an easy decision to let > go > > of them. The Just Ice disc is live in Edmonton Canada and is just Joni > and > > her guitar with an intimate audience. I think she was promoting the > > Turbulent Indigo album as there are a few songs from that as well as new > > material from Taming the Tiger. The Mostly Melancholia is again just Joni > > and her guitar recorded for a Radio station, again with an intimate > > audience. The sound quality on these discs is amazing!! The second fret > > shows were recorded for a Philadelphia radio station over different dates > > between 66-68 lots of material from her first LP's and before as well as > > unreleased material. This is a 2 disc set. As I am on my way to work > now > > I will not have time to send track listings but will do so tonight. If > you > > really love Joni Mitchell then these shows are just wonderful. > > > > Regards > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:36 AM > > Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2506076790 > > > > > > > What songs are on this CD? Is she with a band? > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > > Question from: siouxxxx > > > Title of item: Joni Mitchell Mostly Melancholia Live CD 1998 > > > Seller: kingfishers > > > Starts: Feb-05-03 01:55:09 PST > > > Ends: Feb-12-03 01:55:09 PST > > > Price: Starts at $30.00 > > > To view the item, go to: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2506076790 > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:30:25 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Conditional recommendation: a movie called "The Hours", njc i agree, she was amazing (she had a plastic nose which made that downward stare of hers so intense) & frankly i liked her character more than the other two women because she seemed the most real & in touch with her self compared to the other two... >>I totally believed them both but the real surprise for me was Nicole Kidman. She's often been tagged "vacuous" but wow, is she believable as a woman with TOO MUCH on her mind! I think what she gave in "The Hours" is a masterful performance completely worthy of Oscar's attention.<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:59:15 EST From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans???? In a message dated 1/28/03 10:31:45 PM, littlebird3333@yahoo.com writes: << If you don't like it, delete it. The sun will rise the next day. Life will go on. And your finger may benefit from the exercise. Sorry I'm being a bitch. But I am. (At least tonight) >> AMEN! well said, couldn't agree more, i delete many posts based on a subject line that isn't my cup of tea, and limited free time to read, but thats just in my mind common sense... why the drama? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:06:21 EST From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL HI.just a quick thoguht, when I posted earlier about the gay connection to Joni, much of what I felt was 100 percent Joni related content, albeit with a gay subtext, I would be very confused to have put a NJC label on it... it was Joni content, about her music and how it's altered my life, etc., isn't that what most of these posts are about> ... or is Joni content merely about facts and stats and such of her music and life? please advise... I do find this confusing and don't want to offend the list... however, if my feelings and experiences might touch or connect with others, I'd hate to limit the outreach by mislabeling it... thanks all! Mitch in NYC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:22:22 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: NJC welfare >>she was receiving welfare payments and then applied for a student loan so she could go to university.<< with reference to the above quote, Kate wrote: <> My understanding is that a person is allowed to be on welfare as well as apply for student loans . The problem is that the money you receive while on welfare is calculated as "income" , affecting the amount of money the government will award you in student loans . A sad state of affairs considering neither is enough to resemble a decent living wage. Mags You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:24:49 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Gays' interest in Joni now njc I guess --- Rusty10113@aol.com wrote: > Hi-- I've beeen a lurker on this site for several > years now, and rarely feel > I have anything compelling to add to any of the > discussions (I'm not a > musician or Joni scholar by any means), but this one > has my fingers itching > to hit the keys... Mitch, thanks for your thoughts and for speaking up. Don't be a stranger - it's always good to hear new voices. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:28:49 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: catherine's marriage proposal NJC --- Mags N Brei wrote: > > And just what are you suggesting here? Do you > think anyone would actually fall in love with and > marry someone they met on the joni mitchell > discussion list??? pretty crazy idea if you ask me . Damn right! only a fool would do that! next thing you know, someone's going to start some kind of jmdl dating service! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:38:53 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: joni is a sheep (or ram)! NJC --- Wally Kairuz wrote: re "rabbit bat" > honey, what kind of job did you have that you got > THAT kind of calls??? > wallyK, by the way, a goat-rat I work for the ministry of health. I used to be a public information officer taking phone calls from the public about any old thing. You wouldn't believe some of the weird calls we got! add to that, our receptionist was not very, er, educated. Euthanasia came out as "youth in Asia" and so on. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:42:03 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Song choices for altos - any suggestions? njc --- Lucy Hone wrote: > What about some of Bonnie Raitt.... > > The excellent "Love has no pride"... or "YOU" or > "Dimming of the Day".... > Wow! Excellent suggestions - and I have the Bonnie Raitt songbook that likely has at least one of those in it (Road Travelled? is that the name?) > Or Fairport Convention "Farewell" or "Reynardine" or > "Road to Fotheringay" Anything by Fairpot is so great - but I don't have the music or the piano stuff for it. > What about Gillian Welch? "Paper wings" or "Aconey > Bell" or "orphan girl" or > Shelby Lynne.... > > Hey there are tons of good songs and your range > seems similar to mine...What > about Joni's "Urge for going?" that is a good > one.... > > Guess I have to come to Joni Fest to hear you sing > then!!! > Well, get right on it, girl - whatcha waiting for? ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:46:37 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Re: Steely Dan now Piano Jazz NJC Count me in as a Piano Jazz fan. I like Marian McPartland a lot. Her piano playing seems to incorporate the styles of the guests in her program who played duo piano with her. And we are richer for that. Her playing has a, to quote a song, sophisticated swing and its always tasteful. Like George Shearing. I think McPartland must be in her mid-80s now, yes? But if the late violinist Stephane Grappelli showed us, high levels of creativity and musicianship and age are mutually exclusive. By the way, I just listened to Fred Simon's USUALLY/ALWAYS album again today and I _always_ get a natural high with the title track that sampled voices and made them blend with the instruments! A delight from start to finish. > I am a fan of Piano Jazz, and listen to it regularly, so thanks for the > heads up. Generally her show is one on one with another > piano player, I'm guessing it's Fagan that is the guest? Rather > than the whole band. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:48:55 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Song choices for altos - any suggestions? njc --- FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Or Catherine, how about using a sexy accent a la > Marlene Dietrich, and sing > "Fallink in love Again" or "Boys in the Backroom" > :~) > > and tell them I'm having the same, I'll save that for my comedy class! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:49:01 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: RE: joni is a sheep (or ram)! NJC LOL LOL ;-) At 10:38 PM -0500 02/05/2003, Catherine McKay wrote: >add to that, our >receptionist was not very, er, educated. Euthanasia >came out as "youth in Asia" and so on. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:53:22 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Song choices for altos - any suggestions? njc Well I guess the absence of your fellow alto would be weird here Catherine! I am so running behind the times here. Since you appear to be a much more trained singer than I, what Kate suggests is true, any song really is yours to sing. If you ow your key, which I don't, you can sing any song girl! If you wanted to find songs that have been done specifically in alto, then rather than look to the songs, I would look to the singers. Not that you want to sing it in their way, but at least for me it gives this untrained ear and voice a starting ground. Might I suggest, Nina Simone, Della Reese (before the skunk hair), Phoebe Snow, so long as you don't try to climb every mountain she does, and Diana Krall. I am looking mostly at jazzier people here, since you appear to be in search of standards or the like. Hey and if you're planning this for fest let's put our heads & maybe our voices together, as I am planning a jazzier set this year. In fact it may be all jazz. Peace, Susan just caught a glimpse of my own skunk hair - time for the grecian formula! - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > i've never really sung with an accompianist...but can't you ask her/him to > change the key for you?...that way you can sing whatever you want in a key > that is right for your voice... > > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com > Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs > Over the Moon- > "bringing the melancholy world of twilight > to life almost like magic" All Music Guide > ************************************ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:54:41 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC For Fred --- Kate Bennett wrote: if they could only do the > same for white color fraud > which cheats in far bigger amounts than the poor but > it is SO much easier to > go after the poor as they can't afford lawyers, > etc...btw, the majority of > the people who are on welfare are CHILDREN... Oh well, when you're rich, it's not cheating, is it? It's doing business. (Bastards.) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:05:58 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: NJC welfare Kate wrote: > < totally allowable in the usa, or at least it was before the system was > revamped...>> I thought that people on welfare or other assistance could still get some kind of loans or grants for education. A friend was on welfare (single mom with a child) and got Pell Grants to attend Court Reporting school. Mags wrote: > My understanding is that a person is allowed to be on welfare as well as apply for student loans . The problem is that >the money you receive while on welfare is calculated as "income" , affecting the amount of money the government will >award you in student loans . I'm not sure about that Mags. One can always can get student loans here no matter what one's income. Outright grants and some scholarships may be another issue. I don't think the welfare system and the student loan system is connected here. >A sad state of affairs considering neither is enough to resemble a decent living wage. Try living on welfare or unemployment in California where they just released a report stating that the *average* montly rent is $1,600 a month!! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:57:20 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Claud, where are you Uhh... Yer too late, Polifka. She's spoken for. :) Lama Steve Polifka said, >>>>>>> Hi Claudia, could you contact me privately? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:11:20 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: NJC White collar frauds For what it's worth, I worked in the area of white-collar crime for ten years and they do get caught up with. Although in some cases, they do not pay as much as they probably should. However, the ones who are convicted do pay quite a lot. The bigger fish are exactly the ones who the focus is on. Too bad they can't all be brought to justice, but there is only so much in the way of money and resources to get them all. To use their alloted funds in the most effective way, the government prosecutors go after the biggest offenders in the hope that the publicity and all will deter the smaller ones. Kakki > if they could only do the same for white color fraud > > which cheats in far bigger amounts than the poor but > > it is SO much easier to go after the poor as they can't afford lawyers, > > etc...btw, the majority of the people who are on welfare are CHILDREN... > > Oh well, when you're rich, it's not cheating, is it? > It's doing business. (Bastards.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:03:12 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC For Fred --- sl.m@shaw.ca wrote: > > There was a bad story in Canada about welfare fraud > which shocked me. > You probably know it - the pregnant 41-year-old > woman, convicted of > welfare fraud because she was receiving welfare > payments and then > applied for a student loan so she could go to > university. Sentenced > to have the overpayment deducted from her already > very meagre monthly > payments AND house arrest, allowed to leave her home > (from memory) > only 3 times a week for an hour each time, or > thereabouts. She was > allowed to go out more often if she needed to, but > only with advance > written permission. This woman had suffered from > depression in the > past and this was known. Nonethless, she was left > unable to leave > her home, with virtually no money, 8 months pregnant > with her first > child, no partner, in a small, shabby appartment in > Toronto, I > believe, last August, which was sweltering. And she > killed herself. It wasn't Toronto, but it was somewhere in Ontario - somehow I'm thinking Brantford or one of the smaller towns. I think she was younger than 41, in her 20s I think, and the whole thing is sickening and appalling. House arrest? and the point of that would be? On the 41-yr old thing, maybe you're thinking of the homeless woman that gave birth at Toronto City Hall and abandoned her newborn baby outside on one of the coldest nights of the year? This was a week or two ago. Everyone's quick to condemn the woman for that and here we go again with the poor and the fact that they're to blame for their own misfortune. Maybe if she had had a place to live and proper medical care...? (The baby was found and survived and last I heard was still in Sick Kids hospital in critical but stable condition and is expected to be fine.) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:12:36 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: NJC welfare The Canadian woman I was talking about, Kimberley Rogers, collected $13,500 in welfare while receiving student loans of $32,000 between 1996 and 1999. That got her six months house arrest, 18 months of probation, her welfare benefits cut for three months, and after that an amount to be deducted from future benefits to repay the stolen money, although the payments were already barely enough to pay rent. She had a history of depression and was 8 months pregnant with her first child, and she killed herself while under house arrest in a blazing hot appartment in August 2001. There's a website campaigning for change in her name, if anyone's interested at http://dawn.thot.net/Kimberly_Rogers/ Sarah At 8:05 PM -0800 02/05/2003, kakki wrote: >Mags wrote: > >> My understanding is that a person is allowed to be on welfare as well as >apply for student loans . The problem is that >the money you receive while >on welfare is calculated as "income" , affecting the amount of money the >government will >award you in student loans . > >I'm not sure about that Mags. One can always can get student loans here no >matter what one's income. Outright grants and some scholarships may be >another issue. I don't think the welfare system and the student loan system >is connected here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:12:57 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC --- colin wrote: > it is importnat to undersatand that LOW crab does > not mean NO crab!!!!! > Event he strictest, ie. Atkins, and then only druing > the first two > weeks, hovrs around 20gams of crabs a day. Is it me, or is the Colinese accent getting stronger all the time? ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:11:56 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: STephin Merritt and Magnetic Fields NJC Catherine and All, I must sing and jazz tap out the praises of Stephin Merritt! He is probably one of the best songwriters this past decade and today. He is an esoteric amalgmatic magician that pulls from myriads of musical sources to bring a fresh face to music. Many have said that he is the "new" COle Porter or Sondheim, albeit that he may have been inspired by both of them, his talent is in its own stratosphere. HIs singing voice may not be everyone's cup of tea especially on this list, but his low register sells his songs in an original, quirky, if idiosyncratic way that doesn't remind me of any singer. A sampling of his lyrics: "Love is like a Bottle of Gin" It makes you blind, it does you in It makes you think you're pretty tough It makes you prone to crime and sin It makes you say things off the cuff It's very small and made of glass and grossly overadvertised It turns a genius to an ass and makes a fool think he is wise it could make you regret your birth or turn cartwheels in your best suit it costs a lot more than it's worth and yet there is no substitute They keep it on a higher shelf the older and more pure it grows It has no color in itself but it can make you see rainbows You can find it on the Bowery or you can find it at Elaine's It makes your words more flowery it makes the sun shine, makes it rain you just get out what they put in and they never put in enough Love is like a bottle of gin but a bottle of gin is not like love What I find about Mr. Merritt rewarding that a sampling of lyrics such as this is just the icing on the cake, there is so much more to his art and if anyone is interested they should check out "69 Love Songs" or if you don't wish to purchase the whole 3 cd set, start with Disc 1 which I feel is a great introduction to the Magnetic Fields. He also has other groups/projects, "The 6ths" and "The Future Bible Heroes". > --- Blair Fraipont wrote: > > I have to share this experience with others. > >I've never heard of any of these people, but that >sounds like a RIOT! It sounds like the kind of dreams >I have, in fact. The really weird thing is, I was in >an Old Navy store yesterday and one of the songs >playing in the store was... "Sugar Town". I hadn't >heard that song in years. > >===== >Catherine >Toronto > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:15:33 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Queen of England NJC --- Lucy Hone wrote: > COLIN.........YOU are a very naughty boy, YOU KNOW > IT, AND YOU JUST LOVE THE > ATTENTION..Oh I shall pinch your bottom and I won't > give it back!!! > > I think you were possibly in royal service..... and > that is my feeling.. No, no, you've got it all wrong. You know those lovers Diana had? Well, guess what? All that business about John and all that, it's just a coverup. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:19:26 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC Coliin explained that he thinks too fast for his fingers and so probably when he's very passionate about something, he types even faster than usual, and crabs are clearly dear to his heart. ;-) Maybe we should judge the amount of passion from now on by the strength of the Colinese. At 11:12 PM -0500 02/05/2003, Catherine McKay wrote: > --- colin wrote: > it >is importnat to undersatand that LOW crab does >> not mean NO crab!!!!! >> Event he strictest, ie. Atkins, and then only druing >> the first two >> weeks, hovrs around 20gams of crabs a day. > >Is it me, or is the Colinese accent getting stronger >all the time? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:22:26 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: NJC some of the foods I actually like & a few more I don't NJC --- "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" wrote: > On an English muffin, I put a cholesterol-lowering > butter substitute called > "Benecol", Grey Poupon mustard, freshly ground black > pepper, & oregano. > Seriously. IIIIwwwww! Is that benecol stuff the same as that weird Yankee margarine that you squirt OUT OF BOTTLES? when i was at Jonifest two years ago, they had English muffins and that liquid squirt margarine for breakfast. I've never seen that stuff before. To my knowledge, they don't even sell it here - if they do, I don't want to hear about it! It ought to be against the law. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:24:22 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC LP's v CD --- "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" wrote: > > Get the speakers out of the corners. Put them on > dining room chairs, 3 feet > (one metre) out from each wall and see if you like > the improvement. You'll > hear less "boominess" but you will hear the > bassists' fret board and you > don't have to strain to understand lyrics. Who > knew! Does this work even with cheap, crappy stereos? ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:41:19 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Gays' interest in Joni hey mitch: nice post. i'm the same, i never felt that i was connecting with other gays by liking joni, whereas other musical loves of mine at one time or another (musical comedies, bette midler, soft cell) did have a gay tinge. i didn't come to this list for gay solidarity either, and i was kind of surprised by how many gay men and women are here. it was an essay by cliff chase, that you can find on jonimitchell.com, that for me crystalized something of her appeal to gay men, at least. like many people here, my first internet search was joni mitchell and i consumed wally breese's site. and that essay is still one of the finest things i've read. i highly recommend it. here's the link to part 1 (there're three parts) http://www.jonimitchell.com/TroubleChildPart1.html best to you, patrick in ny np - kaija saariaho - chbteau de l'bme (dawn upshaw singing) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:46:44 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Song choices for altos - any suggestions? njc --- Susan Guzzi wrote: Since you appear to be a > much more trained singer than I, Not trained at all - that's why I'm taking the course - - it's called "Singing from scratch" and it's aimed at adults who want to get some voice training, most of whom have never taken any. There's about 8 people in the class and we sing mostly as a group. We start with warmup exercises and then move into the singing. By about the third class, we're supposed to be ready to start practicing our solos in front of the class. This is my third class of it and I'm enjoying it a lot. The group, whichever group I've been in, is very supportive and my teacher is excellent - not only does she know her stuff, but she has a wicked sense of humour, and the accompanist is so sweet. what Kate > suggests is true, any song really is yours to sing. > If you ow your key, which I don't, you can > sing any song girl! If you wanted to find songs > that have been done specifically in alto, then > rather than look to the songs, I would look to the > singers. My problem is trying to get the music for it - that is, music that's already in print and readily available. If I could accompany myself on guitar, I could just change the key by transposing the chords or using a capo, but this is a bit different. (I figure, I'll obey the rules for now but later - anarchy rules!) I LOVE Nina Simone. And Ella Fitzgerald. And so many more. And I'd love to do a duet with you - or anyone, for that matter! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:50:21 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC White collar frauds --- kakki wrote: > For what it's worth, I worked in the area of > white-collar crime for ten > years and they do get caught up with. Although in > some cases, they do not > pay as much as they probably should. However, the > ones who are convicted do > pay quite a lot. The bigger fish are exactly the > ones who the focus is on. > Too bad they can't all be brought to justice, but > there is only so much in > the way of money and resources to get them all. That makes a lot of sense. All you need to do is catch one of the big fishies and that's worth a lot of the smaller fry. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:53:00 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Conditional recommendation: a movie called "The Hours", njc I just saw this movie last week with that "new woman." She had seen the movie already but really wanted to see it again. I thought the performances were masterful. Yes in this case I must give it up for Nicole, but I felt that Meryl and Julianne were just as brilliant. The surprise for me is Ed Harris. Since I saw him in Pollock and with this performance, he steps into a much higher echelon for me. I was stunned by his performance - and I usually like the girls! But the weaving of this story is so original and fresh and brilliant. This film along with Frida, should prove to Hollywood and producers that art films and indie films can find audiences and be successful both articstically and commercially. And yes Lama, it is depressing and it almost romanticizes it - in a way. Glad I didn't see this a few years ago! Otherwise I never would have channeled Ethel! Peace, Susan NP: Joni/TI/ Magdeline Laundries - --- "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" wrote: > Speaking of Meryl Streep, she's wonderful, as always, in "The Hours". So > was Julianne Moore. I totally believed them both but the real surprise for > me was Nicole Kidman. She's often been tagged "vacuous" but wow, is she > believable as a woman with TOO MUCH on her mind! I think what she gave in > "The Hours" is a masterful performance completely worthy of Oscar's > attention. > > Sheesh! I'm writing like a critic. "Completely worthy of Oscar's > attention." Somebody shut me up. > > The recommendation is conditional in that I don't recommend it to anyone who > a.) has a handgun at home, > b.) a full bottle of sleeping pills, > b.) has been drinking Jack Daniels, or > c.) has a history of depression. > > To me, as someone with 35 years of depression under my 47 year-old belt, it > "reads" like a commercial for suicide. Kids, don't try this at home. Keep > a journal. Write to me. Go to a professional, but don't try this at home. > These are actors. This is not real. > > All the best, > > Lama Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:42:43 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Queen of England NJC LOL Lucy, that made my day. Brilliant! LOL I've enjoyed reading all you insiders' brushes with the Royals. A family friend from England used to get invited to parties at Buckingham Palace back in the late 60s. She said all guests had to sign a confidentiality statement each time that they wouldn't talk about what went on inside during their visit. And she said there were many wild times going on inside ;-) She also said that everyone thought Lord Porchester (?) was indeed the real father of Andrew and Edward. I met Fergie in 1994 at a charity event. She came right over to me and introduced herself even though I was nobody. She was very natural and I was very impressed with her. She was nothing like the way the tabloids portrayed her at the time. Is it true that it is a big deal in England to have an ancestor incarcerated in the Tower? My mother visited there a few years back and asked the docent to look up her family name and he was very impressed that it was connected with a band of rebel outlaws who hid out in Wales and who were eventually executed in the Tower! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:38:46 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Queen of England NJC Now THAT could explain a lot about you, Kakki, LOL Sarah At 9:42 PM -0800 02/05/2003, kakki wrote: >Is it true that it is a big deal in England to have an ancestor incarcerated >in the Tower? My mother visited there a few years back and asked the docent >to look up her family name and he was very impressed that it was connected >with a band of rebel outlaws who hid out in Wales and who were eventually >executed in the Tower! > >Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:52:18 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Queen of England NJC Don't think it didn't cross my mind, too ;-) Kakki > Now THAT could explain a lot about you, Kakki, LOL > > Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:48:47 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Joni finding at Wherehouse I saw a big T'log poster at my local Wherehouse (music store) today. I practically begged them for it, but they said someone else already asked for it. I think it just appeared recently, so perhaps that wimpy record company is at least doing a little something to promote it. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:58:10 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: Joni 45's ? I have: Good Friends In France They Kiss On Main St Help Me/Just like this Train Rainy night House/Big yellow Taxi Urge for Going/Just like this Train My Secret Place/Number One (you're so square)Baby I don't Care/ Big Yellow Taxi/ Woodstock (you're so square)Baby I don't Care/Love Good Friends/ Smokin A couple of other in Spanish Criada En El Robo/ Ayudame Joni Mitchell El Gran Taxi Amarillo/ Harry Chapin Gatos en la cuna And I am Still Lookin. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: Joni 45's ? > First a joni monent > I was bringing my high school daughter home from school when Joni's woodstock from LOTC came on the radio so I sang and whistled thru it and then I said to Isabel you know the Counting Crows just covered this on there latest CD and its played in the movie Two Weeks Notice, then the next song came on of course it was The CC's version and at the end of it Isabel said Dad I like joni's singing it better. I like the laugh at the end. > So my question is how many 45's did Joni issue I sort of remember seeing one or two at the high school dance parties usally her songs were played as a interlude for couples to sneak of to dark corners, I do remember very slow dancing to For Free. The 45's are not listed on the jmdl or the JM site. > NP Misty Sarah Vaughan / Quincy Jones ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:58:16 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: Joni 45's ? I have: Good Friends In France They Kiss On Main St Help Me/Just like this Train Rainy night House/Big yellow Taxi Urge for Going/Just like this Train My Secret Place/Number One (you're so square)Baby I don't Care/ Big Yellow Taxi/ Woodstock (you're so square)Baby I don't Care/Love Good Friends/ Smokin A couple of other in Spanish Criada En El Robo/ Ayudame Joni Mitchell El Gran Taxi Amarillo/ Harry Chapin Gatos en la cuna And I am Still Lookin. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: Joni 45's ? > First a joni monent > I was bringing my high school daughter home from school when Joni's woodstock from LOTC came on the radio so I sang and whistled thru it and then I said to Isabel you know the Counting Crows just covered this on there latest CD and its played in the movie Two Weeks Notice, then the next song came on of course it was The CC's version and at the end of it Isabel said Dad I like joni's singing it better. I like the laugh at the end. > So my question is how many 45's did Joni issue I sort of remember seeing one or two at the high school dance parties usally her songs were played as a interlude for couples to sneak of to dark corners, I do remember very slow dancing to For Free. The 45's are not listed on the jmdl or the JM site. > NP Misty Sarah Vaughan / Quincy Jones ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:58:32 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: Joni 45's ? I have: Good Friends In France They Kiss On Main St Help Me/Just like this Train Rainy night House/Big yellow Taxi Urge for Going/Just like this Train My Secret Place/Number One (you're so square)Baby I don't Care/ Big Yellow Taxi/ Woodstock (you're so square)Baby I don't Care/Love Good Friends/ Smokin A couple of other in Spanish Criada En El Robo/ Ayudame Joni Mitchell El Gran Taxi Amarillo/ Harry Chapin Gatos en la cuna And I am Still Lookin. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: Joni 45's ? > First a joni monent > I was bringing my high school daughter home from school when Joni's woodstock from LOTC came on the radio so I sang and whistled thru it and then I said to Isabel you know the Counting Crows just covered this on there latest CD and its played in the movie Two Weeks Notice, then the next song came on of course it was The CC's version and at the end of it Isabel said Dad I like joni's singing it better. I like the laugh at the end. > So my question is how many 45's did Joni issue I sort of remember seeing one or two at the high school dance parties usally her songs were played as a interlude for couples to sneak of to dark corners, I do remember very slow dancing to For Free. The 45's are not listed on the jmdl or the JM site. > NP Misty Sarah Vaughan / Quincy Jones ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 02:07:15 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: February 6 1974: Joni performed at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. Click the link to hear the Arbutus story she told. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/performances/docs/740206.cfm - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 02:07:15 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: February 6 On February 6 the following items were published: 1966: "Two Single Acts Survive a Marriage" - Detroit News (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=428 1993: "Classical Crossover" - Economist (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=100 1999: "Witness of Life" - Irish Times (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=136 2000: "Both Sides Now" - Entertainment Weekly (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=451 2000: "Standard Surprises" - New York Now (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=630 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #95 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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