From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #81 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, February 1 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 081 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Blush Master? [Little Bird ] Re: Blush Master? NJC [dsk ] Re: Blush Master? NJC [sl.m@shaw.ca] Today in History: February 1 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: February 1 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Joni lines njc [RSTM@aol.com] Tuna [was food cravings] NJC [dsk ] RE: pet's names (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Tuna [was food cravings] NJC [sl.m@shaw.ca] Re: Joni lines njc [dsk ] Joni on the global music fanbase [dsk ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:00:43 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: Blush Master? oh my god. oh my god. I'm dying of embarrassment. PLEEEEEEZE forgive me, forgive me, forgive me. Oh my god. I'm off to die in a little corner now, all red and overheated. - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 01:31:59 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Blush Master? NJC Oh, no, that's quite all right, although I'm blushing a bit, too, from the romance of it all. The list was due for a bit of Valentine heat. :-) Some people are still talking about the steamy, elicit-affair message from years ago. That is so old news now! I think the JMDL needs to be surprised by a hot/romantic letter each month. So, who's next? Debra Shea P.S. I hope you and Kurt have a good time. Little Bird wrote: > > oh my god. oh my god. I'm dying of embarrassment. > PLEEEEEEZE forgive me, forgive me, forgive me. > > Oh my god. I'm off to die in a little corner now, all > red and overheated. > > -Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 00:59:30 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Blush Master? NJC Hey, you could at least have put NJC on it!! LOL! Sarah At 10:00 PM -0800 01/31/2003, Little Bird wrote: >oh my god. oh my god. I'm dying of embarrassment. >PLEEEEEEZE forgive me, forgive me, forgive me. > >Oh my god. I'm off to die in a little corner now, all >red and overheated. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 02:08:23 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: February 1 1969: Joni made her debut perfromance at New York's Carnegie Hall. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 02:08:23 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: February 1 On February 1 the following items were published: 1968: "Joni Mitchell gets away from trends - And succeeds" - Regina Leader-Post (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=779 2001: "Veteran folk singer returns to his roots" - Flint Journal (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=911 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 02:18:44 EST From: RSTM@aol.com Subject: Joni lines njc I believe Kate and others interpreted the Little Green line correctly. She gives him a description of his newborn child, beckoning him home, and he responds with a fricking poem. I guess "non-comformer" sounds better than "limp-dick." LG is one of those songs, along with Cherokee Louise, that really make me weapy and weak in the knees. Also one of those songs so obvious in its meaning, but which no one seems to have gotten (me included) until reports surfaced in the 80's. Pissing an tequila anaconda is definitely not pissing a frufru drink, but rather some outdoor relief after a series of shots of Mr. Cuervo and creating a meandering river of piss. Maybe its an L.A. thing . . . a traditional post-El Choyo experience (which, by the way, might make a pleasant potential mecca for the next L.A. Joni-fest). By the way, in LA it has been in the 70's and 80's and the citrus blossoms tonite are perfuming the air so sweetly it is almost cloying. Plus, the Lakers finally beat a good team tonite. It is a magic hour. Where I am really obtuse and/or the one line that I have always thought off-putting is the refrain from ACOY: Oh I could drink a case of you darling Still I'd be on my feet oh I would still be on my feet Fecking gorgeous song. The rest of song always struck me as extolling the relationship/man in her life who she lost or is losing or is fighting. I would have thought that it would be an intoxicating experience to overdose on a great lover. . . nothing wrong with pumping the guy up a bit. Yet JM says she could drink a case of this guy and still not be hammered. What gives? He is weak? He doesn't affect her even in large quantities? Is it that he is so much like her -- she knows him so well -- that he does not affect her? Is she saying he is Lite Beer -- good riddance? I am sure that there is some obvious answer I am missing, but I am not above confessing ignorance, at least tonight, anyway. Ron L.A. P.S., I am making this NJC as a matter of pique. Joni only status is just plain lazy. Deleting email is the only good exercise I get nowadays. Imagine the furor over identifying something definitely Joni as NJC? But if they never know . . . ;P ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 02:38:42 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Tuna [was food cravings] NJC Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- Kate Bennett wrote:> > > i stopped eating tuna when it was hard to figure out > > which was which as far as being dolphin safe (i think its still > > controversial) & i don't miss it anyway as i try to avoid fish from the ocean due to > > the high mercury levels > > Here in Canada, they have the cans marked dolphin safe > (picture of dolphin in circle with line through it!) > if there's no dolphin in them. That's the only kind I > buy, usually Clover Leaf. (Then you have to take it on > faith that they're not lying about it.) There's never any dolphin in a can of tuna. Dolphins are mammals. I don't know what dolphin meat (that's a disturbing thought) would be like, but it's not fish. The issue is that schools of yellowfin tuna swim underneath pods of dolphins, generally in the warm Pacific waters, so commercial fisherman spot the dolphins and lower nets sometimes as big as a mile long and catch everything along with the tuna, and the dolphins end up drowning or being crushed. So the picture on some cans of a dolphin in a circle with a line through it means the tuna in that can has not been caught by encirclement (that is, in those huge nets) so, in theory, no dolphins have been killed. I'm not sure what happens to the dead dolphins, I think they're just thrown away, so killing them is for no reason other than commercial efficiency. In the early 1990s legislation was passed in the U.S. banning that type of huge net fishing for tuna, and countries whose fisherman still fish that way (Mexico, Panama) were not allowed to sell their tuna to the U.S. That legislation did save hundreds of thousands of dolphin's lives. Then there was NAFTA in the late 1990s and the desire by Clinton and others to lower barriers to trade, so Mexico and Panama (and maybe other countries) started lobbying for a return to the more efficient way of fishing. So the requirement now is that each boat that uses huge nets have a person on it to certify that no dolphins were hurt or killed. There's a way now to open the top of nets so the dolphins can escape and sometimes divers go into the water to free them. That's the requirement. Whether that's what happens, I don't know. I think that's the source of the controversy now. I always buy albacore tuna, the solid white type, rather than the light tuna, which is usually yellowfin. Albacore tuna is caught by line and hook rather than nets. I'm not sure why that is. My guess is that since they live near cold water maybe there are no dolphins to hang out with there, and so there's no way for fisherman to easily see where a huge group of tuna would be and so nets wouldn't work. Anyway, with albacore there's not the "were dolphins killed in the catching of this?" issue to worry about. There is the high mercury level in all fish now, so it's not a good idea to have fish any more than 3 times a week. That's a sad thing, for the fish that manage to stay alive (it must be affecting them) and for us. It's a sign of how we're poisoning the earth, and once it's done, it's hard and maybe impossible to go back. It's one of those obvious things that some people can't manage to see. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 04:40:44 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: pet's names (NJC) yes, but remember that phoebe was not her REAL name... wallyK, mad about all about eve, watch it once a month. - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Bruce Kimerer Enviado el: Sabado, 01 de Febrero de 2003 12:29 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: pet's names (NJC) I have two dogs, both Yorkies. One named Phoebe -- after the character in All About Eve; "They call me Phoebe." One named Watson -- after who knows what. Before them I had another Yorkie named Cecil. And an English Setter/Samoyed mix named Vanessa. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 01:41:44 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Tuna [was food cravings] NJC Couldn't agree more Debra. Sarah At 2:38 AM -0500 02/01/2003, dsk wrote: >It's a sign of how we're poisoning the earth, and once >it's done, it's hard and maybe impossible to go back. It's one of those >obvious things that some people can't manage to see. > >Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 02:47:56 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Joni lines njc RSTM@aol.com wrote: > > Where I am really obtuse and/or the one line that I have always thought > off-putting is the refrain from ACOY: > > Oh I could drink a case of you darling > Still I'd be on my feet > oh I would still be on my feet > > Yet JM says > she could drink a case of this guy and still not be hammered. What gives? > He is weak? He doesn't affect her even in large quantities? LOL! Well, maybe yes to all of that. I always took it as a comment about her rather than him, that she was so enamored of him that she'd always be available for him, no matter what. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 02:56:04 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Joni on the global music fanbase Joni only has three fans in the whole world! http://www.globaldust.com/ Debra Shea ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #81 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)