From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #77 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, January 31 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 077 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: food cravings NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC [Catherine McK] Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC [Catherine McK] Re: posting once, posting twice, sold to the lady in Saskatoon njc [Cathe] Re: Coco (Really NJC), short ["kakki" ] Re: "converting" to HIV positive/Another reason to hate Rolling StoneNJC ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC [David Marine ] RE: coyote ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Comfort Food (NJC) ["kakki" ] Re: Just being Nabor-ly - NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] MarcAurele-NJC ["Suzanne MarcAurele" ] Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC ["kakki" ] Re: posting once, posting twice [Les Irvin ] Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC [David Marine ] Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC ["kakki" Subject: Re: food cravings NJC --- Kate Bennett wrote:> > i stopped eating tuna when it was hard to figure out > which was which as far > as being dolphin safe (i think its still > controversial) & i don't miss it > anyway as i try to avoid fish from the ocean due to > the high mercury levels > (having had enough mercury exposure thanks to the > old fillings i received as > a child) Here in Canada, they have the cans marked dolphin safe (picture of dolphin in circle with line through it!) if there's no dolphin in them. That's the only kind I buy, usually Clover Leaf. (Then you have to take it on faith that they're not lying about it.) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:33:25 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Blair writes: > > << So for those in American and elsewhere also > interested about this phenomena, check it out. >> > > Although ths phenomenon exists, it is quite rare -- > from all reports except Rolling Stone's. This story > HAS BEEN DISCREDITED. The doctors in the article > DENY MAKING THE STATEMENTS that were attributed to > them. It appears that Rolling Stone MADE IT UP! It sounds like total crap. There are people who do things to make themselves sick (or fake symptoms) (it's called Munchausen's Syndrome) but this is rare. I can't see it being any more prevalent among gay men (trying to get HIV on purpose?) and any other group of people. If you want to kill yourself, there are faster ways. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:33:25 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Blair writes: > > << So for those in American and elsewhere also > interested about this phenomena, check it out. >> > > Although ths phenomenon exists, it is quite rare -- > from all reports except Rolling Stone's. This story > HAS BEEN DISCREDITED. The doctors in the article > DENY MAKING THE STATEMENTS that were attributed to > them. It appears that Rolling Stone MADE IT UP! It sounds like total crap. There are people who do things to make themselves sick (or fake symptoms) (it's called Munchausen's Syndrome) but this is rare. I can't see it being any more prevalent among gay men (trying to get HIV on purpose?) and any other group of people. If you want to kill yourself, there are faster ways. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:40:06 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: posting once, posting twice, sold to the lady in Saskatoon njc --- sl.m@shaw.ca wrote: > > Can someone tell me please: when I post, do I need > to send to > joni@smoe.org AND joni-digest@smoe.org, so the > digest people get it. > Or is one sufficient? You need send to only one, otherwise your post will show up twice. I think. The digest is just all of the non-digest posts rolled up into one big mother of a post several times a day. Les, correct me if I'm wrong - - sometimes I send posts to myself, which is pretty weird, so I wouldn't trust me if I were you. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:27:40 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Coco (Really NJC), short LOL! I recall the full name is "Coco Chanel" and Coco is a girl, btw. Coco does have that sort of trademark Chanel beige color coat and is diminutive and high spirited. But I wondered at the name, too ;-) Kakki Susan wrote: > I just have to say one thing about Joni and her dog "COCO" - for such a creative type couldn't > she come up with a real name! Geez why didn't she just call him "Spot!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:07:33 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: "converting" to HIV positive/Another reason to hate Rolling StoneNJC Ken asked: > As a Joni-only, am I allowed to post NJC stuff? Yes, indeed! Rock on, Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:04:54 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Norman Schwarzkopf wants to give peace a chance. NJC DESERT CAUTION: ONCE 'STORMIN' NORMAN,'GEN. SCHWARZKOPF IS SKEPTICAL ABOUT US ACTION IN IRAQ "Norman Schwarzkopf wants to give peace a chance. The general who commanded U.S. forces in the 1991 Gulf War says he hasn't seen enough evidence to convince him that his old comrades Dick Cheney, Colin Powell and Paul Wolfowitz are correct in moving toward a new war now. He thinks U.N. inspections are still the proper course to follow. He's worried about the cockiness of the U.S. war plan, and even more by the potential human and financial costs of occupying Iraq. And don't get him started on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52450-2003Jan27.html ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:05:02 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: food cravings NJC my memory escapes me as to the details but something i recently read said this may not always be true... >>Here in Canada, they have the cans marked dolphin safe (picture of dolphin in circle with line through it!) if there's no dolphin in them.<< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:17:12 -0800 From: David Marine Subject: Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC Hey List -- Rolling Stone may have manipulated statistics, I'm not sure. Nor do I pretend to know the percentage of "bug chasers" in the US gay population. However, the phenomenon is sadly real. Many may not realize that a generation of men, already marginalized and demoralized in youth, were then subjected to a Holocaust in which niggers and fags were deliberately encouraged to die by Ronald Reagan. The psychological ramifications are many, and ultimately cannot be hidden beneath the veneer of a Will & Grace episode or an Abercrombie & Fitch ad. David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:15:21 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: coyote >>Wow! Anyone who sings this song live has my undying love.<< with all due respect to joni, caroline may just outdo joni's version...she absolutely rocks on the guitar (12 string to boot!) in a bonnie raitt kind of way & has a georgeous smokey bluesy voice... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:44:46 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Comfort Food (NJC) British Steve wrote: > Bangers and mash! STILL one of my favorites. I can get English > style bangers at a shop near work. >Cottage (shepherds) Pie with carrots and peas .. All of the other British food previously mentioned pretty much frightens me (kidneys and brains and suet and eeww) but thankfully I grew up on the good stuff like the bangers and homemade Shepherds pie (which my mother called "pasties" or is that something else?) and my very favorite, Yorkshire pudding. > Steve (looking forward to some Southern comfort food in > Nashville next week. Bring on them hush puppies!) Yummm! Pace yourself :-) and have a great time. Nashville is a beautiful town. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:32:17 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Just being Nabor-ly - NJC > > I gathered Jimmmy's post was ajoke but have no idea who Jim Nabors is. GOOOOOLEEE! Shazam!! Do you remember the rumor that he and Rock Hudson got married? I loved the SIGOMER..Jimmy! Too Much! I liked Goober.. too. Yes..indeed.. one of the greatest tv shows ever!! Bree >Colin, you don't know who Jim Nabors is?????? >I'm sure you do, even if you watched tv as a child, I'm sure you saw some >of >the US shows. Jim was Gomer on "The Andy Griffith Show", one of the >greatest >comedy series IMO, ever! He also was starred in another show " Gomer Pyle >USMC". > >If you still don't know who he is, I'm going to fly over to the UK and flog >you :~) > >Jimmy _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:35:38 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: "converting" to HIV positive/Another reason to hate Rolling Stone NJC lol, neither will he be able to read any answers to his question - --- KJHSF@aol.com wrote: > As a Joni-only, am I allowed to post NJC stuff? catherine >>Yes, but you're not allowed to read them.<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:55:49 -0700 From: Dan Olson Subject: Re: Joni in Record Collector Your post suggests an issue: What does it mean for an album to be #20 (what an amazing achievment for DJRD in the UK; I'll bet it never reached that here - see post below)? Is it the RATE at which they're selling (taken over what period), and do I understand correctly that sales only "count" if they're from major chains like Tower. What's up with that? At 09:22 PM 1/30/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Has anyone seen the Record Collector mag yet? >Right at the back they do a '25 years ago' thing and this month they >mentioned that DJRD got to number 20 in the UK this month 25 years ago. >There is also a photo of Joni holding a rose. I'm guessing it was used to >promote the album when it came out. She looks so pretty. One of the best >Joni photos I've seen! > >Stephen Toogood >At 12:45 PM 1/22/2003 -0500, wrote: >In the This Month is History section of jmdl, it >tells us that THOSL peaked at #4 on the U.S. charts, >and HEJIRA peaked at #13. That's amazing, huh? >With no hits on the radio? Wow. I had previously suggested that Hejira was the last album that the general public bought; a new theory is that DJRD sold poorly because it was a double album. Lots of double albums did/do poorly (the White album, T'log); I believe there is too much new material to digest properly - It's not the right "chunk" of new material. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:58:08 -0500 From: "Suzanne MarcAurele" Subject: MarcAurele-NJC My sign? Must be canned tuna, how's about you? Got over my bout with pretending I was an antique and now that I am beginning to feel like one from time to time I get down right cranky - miss me? aI am behind in everything these days and I hate it - more after taxes - why taxes you say = I get money back Kisses to all (biorhythms still work after ... 21+) S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:37:16 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC David wrote: > were then subjected to a Holocaust in which niggers and fags were deliberately > encouraged to die by Ronald Reagan. I've heard a bit about this before here on the list, but don't understand how, why, Reagan was responsible for it, etc. My recall in the early 80s is that everyone was very frightened and concerned at the emergence of the disease and trying very hard to figure out what it was, how to treat it, etc. It was on the forefront of everyone's minds for several years and widely covered in the press from the time of its discovery. Many of the government funded universities' research and medical centers, such as UCLA and UCSF, were working on it from the beginning. I had two female friends who died from HIV infected blood transfusions in the 80s and lost other friends and co-workers to it. It affected everyone in some way. What did Reagan do to encourage people to die? Please don't think I'm obtuse - I sincerely want to know to try to understand what you and others have said. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:22:57 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: FOOD FOR COLD COLD DAYS ABSOLUTELY NJC >Mashed potatoes have to be piled into a mound with a huge dob of butter in >it which is then concealed to "erupt" into the beans....... I DID say these >were childhood things and carbs on a cold day are soooooo comforting.. Lucy..I absolutely love your posts! SO fun! Smiling while reading..this IS a good thing! > >You buy "oats" these are not the oats you give to horses but sort of white >crushed things (like you use in Flapjacks? or is that another thing you >don't know about.....or are flapjacks something else in the US and >Canada...same language different perspective..ANY WAY Flapjacks here >are..... oats, butter, golden syrup all mixed together and then smeared >into >a pan and baked.... YUMMMMMYYYYY) Flapjacks are pancakes here. Have you been to the states? Bree >That ends the culinary bulleitein from OLD (real)Hampshire in OLD >(real)England from Lucy (who has resisted the application of Stepford Wives >apron despite her the domestic tone of her day!!!) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:56:44 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC I don't even knw where to begin here Kakki. But AIDS funding, the very mention of the word, term, disease was completely written out of Regans doctrine. It was a newsworthy day the day he actually utterred the word. His policies alone probably killed your two friends! Because it was too costly to clean up the blood banks! Now realistically could anything have been done to stop it cold - probably not - BUT his delays and moral judgements helped delegate scores more to the role of the living dead. I don't have some slanted article here to link you to, but I can't believe you didn't read or see "And the Band Played On?" Oh it may be all Hollywood, but then so are so many of those articles we get connected to. His concern was about the morality of the majority affected, rather than the masses of humanity and their suffering. He played GOD! Why the allegiance to this bigoted and cruel human - I just don't understand, maybe I'm obtuse. Peace, Susan P.S. Couldn't we have kept talking about COCO, instead of revving me up before going to bed! LOL! NP: Joni/Turbulent Indigo/Borderline - --- kakki wrote: > David wrote: > > > were then subjected to a Holocaust in which niggers and fags were > deliberately > > encouraged to die by Ronald Reagan. > > I've heard a bit about this before here on the list, but don't understand > how, why, Reagan was responsible for it, etc. My recall in the early 80s is > that everyone was very frightened and concerned at the emergence of the > disease and trying very hard to figure out what it was, how to treat it, > etc. It was on the forefront of everyone's minds for several years and > widely covered in the press from the time of its discovery. Many of the > government funded universities' research and medical centers, such as UCLA > and UCSF, were working on it from the beginning. I had two female friends > who died from HIV infected blood transfusions in the 80s and lost other > friends and co-workers to it. It affected everyone in some way. What did > Reagan do to encourage people to die? Please don't think I'm obtuse - I > sincerely want to know to try to understand what you and others have said. > > Kakki Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:53:50 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: test ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:58:35 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: posting once, posting twice Sarah asked: >Can someone tell me please: when I post, do I need >to send to joni@smoe.org AND joni-digest@smoe.org Then Catherine added: >You need send to only one, otherwise your post will >show up twice. I think. Gee... I thought I knew the answer but I apparently didn't (thus the test). Seems either address will get the message through to the list. Best use just to be safe. Les, who is sending an average of 1.5 posts per day to the list now... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:02:12 -0800 From: David Marine Subject: Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC Kakki -- I have tried to find a few sources for you that are objective, and if anything err on the side of being easy on Reagan. Here are two: "For Reagan, AIDS presented a number of potentially serious political risks. As a presidential candidate, Reagan promised to eliminate the role of the federal government in the limited American welfare state, as well as to raise questions of morality and family in social policy. When AIDS was first reported in 1981, Reagan had recently assumed office and had begun to address the conservative agenda by slashing social programs and cutting taxes and by embracing conservative moral principles. As a result, Reagan never mentioned AIDS publicly until 1987. Most observers contend that AIDS research and public education were not funded adequately in the early years of the epidemic, at a time when research and public education could have saved lives. In the early 1980s, senior officials from the Department of Health and Human Services pleaded for additional funding behind the scenes while they maintained publicly, for political reasons, that they had enough resources. The Reagan administration treated AIDS as a series of state and local problems rather than as a national problem. This helped to fragment the limited governmental response early in the AIDS epidemic. AIDS could not have struck at a worse time politically. With the election of Reagan in 1980, the "New Right" in American politics ascended. Many of those who assumed power embraced political and personal beliefs hostile to gay men and lesbians. Health officials, failing to educate about transmission and risk behavior, undermined any chance of an accurate public understanding of AIDS. The new conservatism also engendered hostility toward those with AIDS. People with AIDS (PWAs) were scapegoated and stigmatized. It was widely reported, as well, that New Right groups, such as the Moral Majority, successfully prevented funding for AIDS education programs and counseling services for PWAs. At various points in the epidemic, conservatives called for the quarantining and tattooing of PWAs. Jerry Falwell, the leader of the Moral Majority, was quoted as stating: "AIDS is the wrath of God upon homosexuals." This larger conservative climate enabled the Reagan administration's indifference toward AIDS. THE ADMINISTRATION UNDERCUT FDERAL EFFORTS TO CONFRONT AIDS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY BY REFUSING TO SPEND THE MONEY CONGRESS ALLOCATED FOR AIDS RESEARCH (my caps). In the critical years of 1984 and 1985, according to his White House physician, Reagan thought of AIDS as though "it was measles and it would go away." Reagan's biographer Lou Cannon claims that the president's response to AIDS was "halting and ineffective." It took Rock Hudson's death from AIDS in 1985 to prompt Reagan to change his personal views, although members of his administration were still openly hostile to more aggressive government funding of research and public education. Six years after the onset of the epidemic, Reagan finally mentioned the word "AIDS" publicly at the Third International AIDS Conference held in Washington, D.C. Reagan's only concrete proposal at this time was widespread routine testing." SOURCE: http://www.thebody.com/encyclo/presidency.html If you feel that the above may be slanted, read the government's own version, from the website of the NIH: "The first victims of AIDS were homosexual men and intravenous drug users. These findings enmeshed AIDS in the moral politics of the first Reagan administration. Reagan's domestic policy staff feared that a discussion of AIDS would involve the administration in explicit debates over sexual practices and drug use, likely to alienate mainstream voters. So a coordinated public response was lacking. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop did not become a member of the Assistant Secretary's Executive Task Force on AIDS until 1985, four years after the CDC first noted its occurrence. He was not asked to produce a report on AIDS until early 1986, a belated response to the scale of the epidemic." SOURCE: http://sgreports.nlm.nih.gov/NN/Views/Exhibit/narrative/aids.html I cannot find the quote, but Koop somewhere said that Reagan personally hated gays, and that hatred was at the core of his actions/inaction. Some speculate that this was in part due to issues that he had about his son's sexuality. To put this inaction into perspective, Reagan appropriated $14 million within a week of the death of a handful of straight white men, for the study of "Legionnaire's Disease." Also, make no mistake, what was finally done was done in response to years of grass roots politics. In New York, in the early eighties, priests and Rabbis were lining up to applaud God's glorious wrath upon the filthy faggots. If not for groups like Act Up and GMHC, no doubt many more straight women, among others, would have perished. Best, David > on 1/30/03 7:37 PM, kakki at kakkib@vzavenue.net wrote: > I've heard a bit about this before here on the list, but don't understand > how, why, Reagan was responsible for it, etc. My recall in the early 80s is > that everyone was very frightened and concerned at the emergence of the > disease and trying very hard to figure out what it was, how to treat it, > etc. It was on the forefront of everyone's minds for several years and > widely covered in the press from the time of its discovery. Many of the > government funded universities' research and medical centers, such as UCLA > and UCSF, were working on it from the beginning. I had two female friends > who died from HIV infected blood transfusions in the 80s and lost other > friends and co-workers to it. It affected everyone in some way. What did > Reagan do to encourage people to die? Please don't think I'm obtuse - I > sincerely want to know to try to understand what you and others have said. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:16:34 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Artlcle about gay men "converting" to HIV positive NJC Susan wrote: > I don't even knw where to begin here Kakki. But AIDS funding, the very mention of the word, term, > disease was completely written out of Regans doctrine. It was a newsworthy day the day he > actually utterred the word. His policies alone probably killed your two friends! Because it was > too costly to clean up the blood banks! My friends had their blood transfusions in 1981, which as I recall was around the time the disease was first getting on anyone's radar. I don't believe they were diagnosed until around 1984 or so. The test for the presence of HIV in blood was not developed and available until around late 1986, as I recall (because another friend had a transfusion in early 1986 before the test and she subsequently has to be tested every year since for HIV as a result). In those years, myself and everyone I knew read everything they could about it and everything we read was that researchers and doctors all over the country were working around the clock and racing against time to get a fix on it. My friends who died were studied and researched and various experimental treatments were tried on them because they were some of the first recorded cases of infection through blood transfusions. People working in the field were paying lots of attention to them and others, at least here in the L.A. area. > Now realistically could anything have been done to stop it cold - probably not - BUT his delays > and moral judgements helped delegate scores more to the role of the living dead. Did he himself make moral judgments against people or are you thinking more of idiots like Falwell and fundamentalist Christians? Not to say that Reagan may be did not make the issue out front in his speeches as he should have. > I don't have some slanted article here to link you to, but I can't believe you didn't read or see > "And the Band Played On?" Oh it may be all Hollywood, but then so are so many of those articles > we get connected to. No, I haven't seen it. Sad to say I've not seen most movies in the past 20 years or so because I was locked up working late and weekends most of that time. > His concern was about the morality of the majority affected, rather than the masses of humanity > and their suffering. He played GOD! Other than the movie, are there any other links somewhere where it showed he did this? > Why the allegiance to this bigoted and cruel human - I just don't understand, maybe I'm obtuse. No, I guess I'm just obtuse or didn't notice all these cruel things he did. Too tied up going to school and working all the time during his adminstration. So you can write me off as an idiot or enlighten me so that I know the truth. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:04:16 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: January 31 On January 31 the following items were published: 1976: "Joni in May" - Sounds (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=553 1976: "The Lawn Ranger Rides Again" - Sounds (Review - Concert, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=352 2002: "PTE cruises Joni's River of love " - Winnipeg Sun (Appreciation) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=731 2002: "River looks at life from many sides" - Winnipeg Sun (Appreciation) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=730 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:35:18 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #76 I just have to say one thing about Joni and her dog "COCO" - for such a creative type couldn't she come up with a real name! Geez why didn't she just call him "Spot!" Come on Siquomb get those creative juices flowing - COCO? Reeeeaally! Just sitting here with my cat, Isabella Rosellini, who is snickering at the very thought of being called COCO! Here's my rule for naming pets: one must use a name that will not be embarrassing when walking through the neighborhood calling loudly for one's lost pet, e.g., calling "Coco" seems rather harmless, but walking through the 'hood crying "Isabella Rosellini" could be awkward. You get the drift...as we all know Joni has already gone through the lost pet calling thing, in Bel Air, no less ("I call and call...the silence is so full of sounds...") Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:39:33 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #75 - cold weather food NJC I> Subject: NJC food for cold cold days NJC > > This is an interesting thread, with all the different types > of people on this list. Here are some of my favorites. > > 1) Cincinnati style chili three-way, four-way or bean? 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