From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #73 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, January 30 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 073 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: njc history on tv tonight [Randy Remote ] Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with theJMDL njc [R] Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL njc [] as simple as ice cream, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC [sl.m@shaw.ca] Re: Down To You [sl.m@shaw.ca] RE: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC [sl.m@shaw.ca] Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL NJC [s] Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL NJC [s] Re: Those errant postersNJC [colin ] Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL njc [colin ] Derek Trucks, definitely njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Derek Trucks, njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Joni songs on piano [FredNow@aol.com] NJC Re: Joni songs on piano [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni Onlies Must Die ! ! ! - NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] bonne fete Kate au Nord !!!!!!!! NJC [Mags N Brei ] Re: things that have to do with the JMDL (NJC) ["Lori Fye" ] Call the President (NJC) ["Lori Fye" ] my 2 joni cents ["walterphil" ] RE: gay fans, njc ["courtandspark@earthlink.net" ] Re: bonne fete Kate au Nord !!!!!!!! NJC [colin ] Re: gay fans, njc [Randy Remote ] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #33 ["Heather" ] Why I don't like tuna.... NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Call the President (NJC) [Randy Remote ] Joni likes ... ["Lori Fye" ] njc, Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #33 njc njc njfrigginc [Catherine McKay ] Joni in a Volvo commercial? [Little Bird ] Re: Joni likes ... [Randy Remote ] Re: E-mail Interception NJC ["kakki" ] Re: E-mail Interception NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni + Don [Little Bird ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:30:23 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: njc history on tv tonight vince wrote: > Since no one here watches MTV except me > > (lno one has seen Christine Aguilera's brand new video but me - > > > it features > > MALE FRENCH KISSING CLOSE UPS SEVERAL DIFFERENT SHOTS AND ANGLES EDITED > IN A BUNCH OF TIMES > > so in America, the non-premium tv channel* taboo on men kissing (and > this is hot men kissing with tongues and lips and open mouths caressing > lips on lips tongue on tongue) has been broken by MTV and Christine > Aguilera. It was broadcast yesterday but I didn't post until I saw it > again. It is really hot. Ick! (typical hetero response. Now two hot girls kissing....I'm there) RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:32:45 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with theJMDL njc LOL that was hilarious! Les Irvin wrote: > At 1/29/2003 01:19 PM, Lori Fye wrote: > >Please remember to cut extraneous text from the posting to which you're > >responding. All this arguing and whining about free speech is bad > >enough without having to read it over and over again. > > > >Lori, > >feeling bitchy too > > > > Hi folks - > I have just started the "Everybody is an asshole on the JMDL and I'm gonna > tell them what I think" list. > > Join by sending a message to yousuck@yourmommadoestoo.com with this in the > body: > "subscribe EIAAOTJMDLAIGTTWIT" > > The only rule is that if the message has Joni content please label it > NEIAAOTJMDLAIGTTWITC. > > Thanks and Happy posting! > > > > Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:42:14 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL njc Les the list dominatrix wrote: <> Oh great, I'm a charter member of the "you suck cafe". Do we use (VLSC) for "Very Little Sucking Content" ? Thanks for your humor Les! Jimmy NP: ABBA "Mamma Mia Sucks" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:47:20 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: as simple as ice cream, njc Hell Wrote: >Why I don't like tuna.... NJC >I don't like tuna - in fact I hate tuna. The slightest smell makes me >physically ill, and a decent whiff will have me retching uncontrollably. I >was brought up to like tuna, and the rest of my family like tuna, so it >can't be environment OR genes? Maybe it's completely inexplicable, and >there's no >reason "why" - it just is? >To me the argument about why someone is gay makes about as much sense >as >what I've just written above. Does there have to be a reason? And >why is >everyone so determined to FIND a reason? I'm content knowing I >AM, >without knowing why, >and I agree with Bryan, who said "if you're >looking for a cause, then you're looking for a cure." >If you looked at individual backgrounds, you'd find as much variation >as >in any group of heterosexuals, which would negate the heredity vs. > >environment argument, anyway, in both cases. Now me: I knew I was a lesbian at age 13 and I came out to most everybody when I was 19 years old. . . (although, as many know, coming out is a continual process. . . ie. you're always meeting new people who don't know etc.). But yes, I have often thought of it the way Hell descibed it. . . . like a fairly simple preference. . . I like to use an ice cream analogy, and I have since I was a teenager: Why do you like chocolate ice cream? Why vanilla? Who knows, (who cares). . . Some prefer pistachio. That's it. And yes, I guess I missed Bryan's comments the first time around. . "if you are looking for a cause, you are looking for a cure." I like that too. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:00:18 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC Catherine, fish fingers and tomatoes are one of life's great joys! Actually, this was the only thing I would eat at school lunches, so it's a reminder of innocence and calm within a storm. Oh, and mix a tin of tuna with a couple of boiled, chopped plum tomatoes (placed in boiling water for just a minute or two to get the skins off), add mayonnaise and creamed horseradish to taste - then spread on hot buttered toast. Delicious! Sarah From: Catherine McKay I like tuna. But not with tomatoes. Fish should never be eaten with tomatoes. Eck. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:11:43 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Down To You But Ron, you did it, and did it beautifully. The thing I take from the line is that "settling for less than fascination" was already as choosy as that person, when sober, dared to be. There's something intensively sad about that, because it can apply to so much in life: work, partners, dreams, the clothes you wear, everything. We spend so much of our lives looking in the gutter, when we should be staring up at the sky. And, as you pointed out, even the thing less fascinating eludes us "a few drinks later" (or a few job redundancies later, or a few lost relationships later. . .) Sarah From: Ron Greer >>>>>>You go down to the pick up station craving warmth and beauty. You settle for less than fascination, a few drinks later you're not so choosy. I m sitting here full of tears, totally fragile and emotional trying to convey the beauty that i see in those lines, but i just cant do it... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:16:26 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: RE: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC LOL LOL Wally, you have such a wonderful way of expressing yourself! I'm going to spend the rest of my life from now on laughing whenever I see a tomato, thanks to you. Sarah From: "Wally Kairuz" i emphatically agree, catherine. tomatoes are such rebels! some foods combined with tomatoes will be delicious yet others will profoundly distress me. wallyK, quite on the fence when it comes to tomatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:25:19 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL NJC Hang on a minute. It's easy to forget to put NJC in the subject line, especially if you're new to the list. It isn't easy to forget to delete a post you want to delete. I still don't see that this is a big deal. Really, please count up the number of seconds in a week that you spend deleting NJC posts. And if some people think that a discussion of Joni Mitchell is a "joni content" post, and they want to keep it going, that's up to them surely? No-one other than the list owner should try to dictate what other people want to talk about. And why didn't your post have NJC on it? Come on, loosen up about this please. We're trying to get it right. Sarah From: "blonde in the bleachers" "ooooh it is easy to delete it" It is just as easy to put NJC in the subject line. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:33:57 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL NJC >My previous post should have read: "if some people think that a >discussion of Joni Mitchell AS A GAY ICON is a "joni content" post, >and they want to keep it going, that's up to them. . ." I got too worked up there and left out the 4 crucial words. But at least I remembered the NJC! ;-) Sarah >From: sl.m@shaw.ca >Hang on a minute. It's easy to forget to put NJC in the subject >line, especially if you're new to the list. It isn't easy to forget >to delete a post you want to delete. > I still don't see that this is a big deal. Really, please count up the number of seconds in a week that you spend deleting NJC posts. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:35:10 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Those errant postersNJC Thank you les. you can't imagine how relieved i feel. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:36:14 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL njc Les Irvin wrote: > A > > Hi folks - > I have just started the "Everybody is an asshole on the JMDL and I'm > gonna tell them what I think" list. > I tried the links but they didn't work..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:37:25 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL njc AMEN Brother Les! Now can we all sing Kumbaya and yes, take a pill - hopefully it WILL be the brown acid!! Peace! Susan - --- Les Irvin wrote: > At 1/29/2003 01:19 PM, Lori Fye wrote: > >Please remember to cut extraneous text from the posting to which you're > >responding. All this arguing and whining about free speech is bad > >enough without having to read it over and over again. > > > >Lori, > >feeling bitchy too > > > > Hi folks - > I have just started the "Everybody is an asshole on the JMDL and I'm gonna > tell them what I think" list. > > Join by sending a message to yousuck@yourmommadoestoo.com with this in the > body: > "subscribe EIAAOTJMDLAIGTTWIT" > > The only rule is that if the message has Joni content please label it > NEIAAOTJMDLAIGTTWITC. > > Thanks and Happy posting! > > > > Les Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:42:54 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL njc Susan Guzzi wrote: > take a pill - hopefully it WILL be the brown acid!! > not a good idea to mention pills here-tho at least you didn't mention blue ones...... > > >Peace! >Susan > >- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:43:19 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Down To You Another interesting component of this song is that it utilizes a technique that Joni employs in some of her other songs as well; that is, it opens and closes with a similar phraseology. The opening/closing/middle repeats: "Everything comes & goes... Constant stranger... It all comes down to you" Like Hejira, where she opens and closes with "I'm travelling in some vehicle, sitting in some cafe", and "Conversation". It's like she's using the technique to close the loop on the thought, or perhaps show the cyclical nature of the issue at hand, or the lack of resolution. It's as if she's saying 'here I am at the end of this thought and I'm right back where I started from'. I have no idea if this is intentional or if she means it that way. I just find it an interesting technique. Bob NP: Macy Gray, "My Nutmeg Phantasy" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:25:44 -0000 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Murph's humor, njc > Laurent writes: > > << now I can appreciate Murph's humor. >> > > Ju suis content que t'apprecier enfin mes plaisantries. > > --Bob Well the one time I didn't (the frisbee thing) is because I didn't know YET that you were joking. Bob Muller filled me in on it. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:05:19 -0000 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Derek Trucks, definitely njc Joyful Noise (it is indeed), Derek Trucks' 3rd release He plays with the Allman Bros, but his horizons are wide: this CD features tracks with Susan Tedeschi (blues) , Solomon Burke (soul) and Rahat Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. He's Duane's spiritual son (IMHO), but he's so himself, so unique It's a masterpiece And he's only about 20. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:10:23 -0000 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Derek Trucks, njc Correction: Derek is 23 and is also married with Susan Tedeschi. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:06:02 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Joni songs on piano "Sarah Cartwright" writes: >Totally agree on your praise for Howard's 'For Free' . I would recommend >his rendition of 'Blue' aswell - that is really beautiful and is a real >pleasure to play. Who is Howard? Where can I hear his renditions? My favorite piano rendition of "My Old Man" is by Fred Hersch on his wonderful live solo album, Let Yourself Go. Highly recommended. Speaking of recommendations, I guess the vestigial entrepreneur in me would be disappointed if I didn't seize this opportunity to plug my own piano renditions of Joni songs: Both Sides Now, For Free, and Michael From Mountains, all available on my private release album Songs of My Youth, Vol. 1, which also includes songs by The Beatles, Dylan, Beethoven, and me. Some folks on this list claim to enjoy it very much; anyone interested in copping one please feel free to e-mail off-list. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:13:28 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: Joni songs on piano In a message dated 1/29/2003 5:06:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, FredNow writes: > Some > folks on this list claim to enjoy it very much; What he said. Funny you should mention it Fred, I was listening to your CD as well as the Covers volume that features Hersch's excellent "My Old Man" last week. Definitely recommended. Bob NP: Macy Gray, "Do Something" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:23:56 -0500 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Joni Onlies Must Die ! ! ! - NJC Funny the things you can post if you just remember the NJC tag! But seriously, what is "Joni content" anyway? Is a discussion about the No Joni Content tag Joni content? I think so. So why are the non-JC people the only ones receiving posts in this discussion? I say we disconinue using the NJC tag for this thread. As it is, I think we (the non-JC people) are only hearing from the most angry NJC folks, the ones who are ticked off enough to write to the list. Most of these NJC people slap a NJC tag on their subject lines and so the disussion is dropped solely onto the laps of the non-JC listers, no questions asked. Meanwhile, there are NJC people who are cluelessly going about the day, totally unaware that this discussion is even happening. Shouldn't they be included? Who knows, we might find a few level-headed people who are interested in discussing the subject rationally, rather than attacking the good (if somewhat forgetful on occasion) non-JC people. I just can't imagine that the NJC people are generally as angry as the ones that have popped into the non-JC posts in the last few weeks. - --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:31:22 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: bonne fete Kate au Nord !!!!!!!! NJC happy birthday to our very own Kate au Nord.... or is that du Nord...omegawd...my french is slipping ... must be the joisey air.. or is that aire... :-PP anyway... wishing you the happiest of bdays Kate :-)))))))) Mags and Brei, the guy with the wonderful memory and the heart of gold ;-) ps. wondering if birthday greetings are NJC??? a little paranoid are we??? yea Susan, good thing no one mentioned the colour blue (pill) :P You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:34:58 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: things that have to do with the JMDL (NJC) > It's easy to forget to put NJC in the subject line, especially if > you're new to the list. It's become clear that it's all the fault of the new JMDLers. I say: NO MORE NEW JMDLers, THEN! That would solve everything - wouldn't it? Lori, kidding of course : ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:47:56 -0000 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: gay fans, njc "blonde in the bleachers" wrote: . Laurent said something to the effect that "gay people are more > educated about the arts" which I find to be a bunch of bullshit. For the record, I said that gays as a group are more educated and into the arts, which is different from being educated about the arts (which makes less sense). That's based on my personal experience (and also marketer's studies, just check out the ads targeted to gays). Sorry if my experience doesn't match yours, we all have "different sets of circumstances". Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:57:56 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Call the President (NJC) Passing this on to you because you might want to make your opinion known. Call the White House with your opinion about the war. The Bush White House has an "opinion" line for you to call. So call and give your opinion of the proposed war in Iraq. The line only accepts calls from 9-5 EST., Monday thru Friday. Just call the White House at 202-456-1111. A machine will detain you for only a moment and then a pleasant live operator will thank you for saying "I oppose" or "I approve." It will only take minutes. Note that the weekends are closed for calls. The President has said that he wants to know what the American people are thinking. Let him know. Tell them what you think. ONE PHONE CALL EQUALS 10-20 PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T CALL. PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO FRIENDS. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:59:04 -0500 (EST) From: "walterphil" Subject: my 2 joni cents (thread #1) whenever i want to impress someone who isn't a joni fan i usually try cold blue steel and sweet fire followed by maybe, song for sharon usually gets at least a grudgingly positive reaction (jeeez how could they not?) once i played a musician friend "the gallery" and he thought it was so amazing that EVERY LINE had a different little melodic hook or twist to it and he was so right (thread #2) i think gays are more attracted to the female voice, period. most straight males like male singers (dylan, eric clapton, aerowsmith, melloncamp, whatever) women and gays are more inclined to females (just my own ignorant broad observation) but growing up i was always drawn towards judy, joan, joni, laura not to mention martha, aretha, and diana followed by billie, sarah, and rosie in my college days (yeah i'm a big fruit) i especially like a chicks voice combined with an airy or fantasticle melody and/or arrangement gets me everytime you know what REALLY gets me? 2 girls in harmony. unbelievabe the b 52's mammas and the pappas even abba (and of course, joni or laura overdubbing themselves) just soaring soaring magic (thread #3) well i finally bought travelog sigh on the positive side-i think joni's voice is just GREAT. yes its different and older, of course but its still extremely distinctive, expressive, and wonderful. those arrangements and tempos really suck tho. (for the roses, one of my most favorite joni songs, is unlistinable. ditto for hejira and refuge.) but i'll also say job's sad song was pretty good (made me realize i missed it the first time around) also liked just like this train (in general these songs sound best ONE at a time) any several in a row is mind numbing su the album did send me scampering back to taming the tiger and turbulent indigo making me realize how wonderful they are. joni just has to sit down and write some new songs don't worry gang, she'll be fine xxx walt The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:24:59 -0500 From: "courtandspark@earthlink.net" Subject: RE: gay fans, njc I don't like Joni Mitchell or her music because I am homosexual. I just like her music period. Has nothing to do with who I am sleeping with. Silly stereotypical nonsense. 'gays' The term annoys me. We are not a group of people all alike but as varied as the sands on the beach with the only commonality that entwines us being we are grains of sand. mack - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:52:51 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: Joni songs on piano In a message dated 1/29/03 4:13:31 PM, SCJoniGuy writes: >> Some >> folks on this list claim to enjoy [Songs of My Youth, Vol. 1] very much; > > >What he said. Thanks, Bob. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:07:29 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Call the President (NJC) I asked this before but no one knew. Maybe someone does now: Irag maybe has links with Al Queda. It is going to be attacked int he war againts terrorism. Saudi araboa is where Al whatsit are from, where they got their money, support and what not. why are not they being attacked? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:08:35 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: bonne fete Kate au Nord !!!!!!!! NJC Happy Birthday Kate. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:14:31 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Call the President (NJC) > why are not they being attacked? Because they're supposedly our friends/allies, or maybe it's because we already have an easy path to their oil. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:35:19 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: gay fans, njc "courtandspark@earthlink.net" wrote: > I don't like Joni Mitchell or her music because I am homosexual. I had to read that sentence a couple times...... btw ....good post, we are all unique, yet all the same behind the mask of who we are supposed to be. It's too bad we have to be catagorized at all. I guess it all comes from discrimination and prejudice. > I just > like her music period. Has nothing to do with who I am sleeping with. > Silly stereotypical nonsense. 'gays' The term annoys me. We are not a > group of people all alike but as varied as the sands on the beach with the > only commonality that entwines us being we are grains of sand. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:40:39 -0500 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #33 Maybe Joni likes pugs. ;-) Heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Aerchak@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:56 PM To: joni@smoe.org Cc: revrvl@chartermi.net Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #33 At least Vince knew he was being an asshole regarding his comments on not using statistical sampling in the gay/lesbian discussion. I thinks it's important to acknowledge when one is being an asshole whenever possible. That said I absolutely refuse to label my Joni postings as JC so everyone else can write about whatever they want ad nauseum and not label theirs NJC. You know what, I don't care anymore. As a matter of fact, let's not discuss Joni mitchell at all. I'm only going to discuss pugs. In particular, my pug, Henry McPug. And sometimes I'm going to talk about greyhounds, but mainly pugs. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:42:46 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC tomatoes are best alone, imho....i am not sure if there is anything more delicious than a sunwarmed tomatoe straight off the vine with vegie salt on it...yuuuummmmmm.... >>i emphatically agree, catherine. tomatoes are such rebels! some foods combined with tomatoes will be delicious yet others will profoundly distress me. wallyK, quite on the fence when it comes to tomatoes.<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:49:36 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Call the President (NJC) colin wrote: > I asked this before but no one knew. Maybe someone does now: > > Irag maybe has links with Al Queda. It is going to be attacked int he > war againts terrorism. > > Saudi araboa is where Al whatsit are from, where they got their money, > support and what not. > > why are not they being attacked? 'Cause they are not part of the Axis of Evil. Duh! Don't they tell you anything over there? You might also point out the atrocious acts that our good pals in Turkey have commited against innocents. And didn't Pakistan harbor the Talibahn?....(Talibahn....like the Autobahn, only with speeding camels....oh I'm on a roll today....) Don't worry, colin, we will get around to bombing all these places eventually, but you have to set priorities. Our curious president George has assured us that this will be an ongoing project to rid the world once and for all of evildoers and those who hate freedom and anyone else who has a bad attitude. Me, I'm hoarding toilet paper, so when our economy goes bust from doing a "Russia" and having a ridiculously top-heavy military, I won't have to wait in some line. In fact, I will get in the bread line twice, then I can sell one. That's capitalism, Jack. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:09:14 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Joni likes ... Heather wrote: > Maybe Joni likes pugs. ;-) She may, but I think the dog she has now is a Jack Russell terrier. Kakki? Stephen? You two met up with Joni at the Daily Grill. Is that right? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:17:27 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: njc, Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL njc Wow, this week is too much. First the USA is going to war, pretending to be upset about chemical weapons that we sold to an ally, so we can install a replacement regime. Now, the list owner posts twice in one day! And one of them is a joke! I think we need to find out who has seized control of Les' email account, enlisting the fundamentalists if necessary, "and put a stop that problem!!" :) Too much. Lama, who's waiting things out as I've done so many times before. Chill, folks. The gay communities (plural) have a right to this anger and they need to express it regularly. P.S. Not to mention the fact that we're spending money that we don't have to pay defense contractors to build a satellite defense against intercontinental missiles. Only thing is, we have no enemies with intercontinental missiles anymore. Did our latest attack come across the Pacific? No, our enemy was armed with plastic box cutters! On top of that, the middle class is disappearing faster than Catherine Zeta Jones' size 6 wardrobe. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:35:36 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC and other hateful foods NJC NJC --- sl.m@shaw.ca wrote: > Catherine, fish fingers and tomatoes are one of > life's great joys! > > Actually, this was the only thing I would eat at > school lunches, so > it's a reminder of innocence and calm within a > storm. > > Oh, and mix a tin of tuna with a couple of boiled, > chopped plum > tomatoes (placed in boiling water for just a minute > or two to get the > skins off), add mayonnaise and creamed horseradish > to taste - then > spread on hot buttered toast. Delicious! One wo/man's feast is another's poison. The very idea of eating tomatoes with any kind of fish makes me want to hurl. My daughter cannot eat carrots (and I thought LLL children loved carrots.) I can't handle beets in any form - even thinking of them makes me want to gag. I can't even stand the smell of popcorn, so going to movies is difficult for me. And so on. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:39:35 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Murph's humor, njc --- Laurent Olszer wrote: > > Laurent writes: > > > > << now I can appreciate Murph's humor. >> > > > > Ju suis content que t'apprecier enfin mes > plaisantries. > > > > --Bob > > Well the one time I didn't (the frisbee thing) is > because I didn't know YET > that you were joking. > Bob Muller filled me in on it. > I think if you just accept it as a given that everything Smurphy says is a joke, then your life will be much easier. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:47:06 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #33 njc njc njfrigginc --- Heather wrote: > Maybe Joni likes pugs. ;-) > Well, she definitely likes Jack Russells. (If it's female, does that make it a Jill Russell? Is a female Doberman... a Doberwoman?) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:50:14 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL njc --- Les Irvin wrote: > > > Hi folks - > I have just started the "Everybody is an asshole on > the JMDL and I'm gonna > tell them what I think" list. > What a treat - two Les posts in one day! We should all fight more often. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:54:15 -0800 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: Re: Joni likes ... Quoting Lori Fye : > > Maybe Joni likes pugs. ;-) > > She may, but I think the dog she has now is a Jack Russell terrier. > Kakki? Stephen? You two met up with Joni at the Daily Grill. Is that > right? Joni's current dog of choice is indeed the lovely Coco- a Jack Russell. Best Stephen in Vancouver Hey Lori- thanks so much for the book- WOW! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:56:01 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: bonne fete Kate au Nord !!!!!!!! NJC --- Mags N Brei wrote: > happy birthday to our very own Kate au Nord.... or > is that du Nord...omegawd...my french is slipping > ... must be the joisey air.. or is that aire... :-PP That's Kate *du* Nord as I recall. Happy BD K du N wherever you are. > > ps. wondering if birthday greetings are NJC??? > Try sending one without the njc tag and sit back and toast marshmallows over the flames. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:57:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: my 2 joni cents njc fruit content with added vitamin C --- walterphil wrote: > > growing up i was always drawn towards > judy, joan, joni, laura > not to mention > martha, aretha, and diana > followed by billie, sarah, and rosie in my college > days > (yeah i'm a big fruit) Like a pineapple or something? ;-) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:18:18 -0500 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Murph's humor, njc Catherine writes: << I think if you just accept it as a given that everything Smurphy says is a joke, then your life will be much easier. >> But, I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I'm here to feckin' amuse you? - --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:28:00 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Murph's humor, njc --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Catherine writes: > > << I think if you just accept it as a given that > everything Smurphy says is a joke, then your life > will be much easier. > >> > > But, I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? > I make you laugh? I'm here to feckin' amuse you? > > --Bob All of this and more. Hell, even when you're really hoppin' mad about something, you're still funny. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:30:25 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Joni in a Volvo commercial? Not sure if anyone has seen this commercial aired, but there is an ad out there for Volvo with a woman driving who looks exactly like Joni, circa 1988. One of those Swedish imports driving her Swedish import. Just thought that was noteworthy. > Andrew you have no idea what being a bitch is, and you are lucky you can't see the finger getting exercise at this moment.> Yaawwwwwwn. (delete.) - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:44:04 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni likes ... I have a jpg of Joni, Klein and Coco with Bernie Grundman, mastering T'Log from Music Connection mag last fall. If you would like a copy, email me offlist. frasere@intergate.ca wrote: > Quoting Lori Fye : > > > Maybe Joni likes pugs. ;-) > > > > She may, but I think the dog she has now is a Jack Russell terrier. > > Kakki? Stephen? You two met up with Joni at the Daily Grill. Is that > > right? > > Joni's current dog of choice is indeed the lovely Coco- a Jack Russell. > > Best > Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:09:55 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: E-mail Interception NJC Catherine wrote: > We've had this same training at work. It does open > some people's minds to the possibility that some of > what they might think is OK to joke about can be > offensive to others, and it's fine to sensitize people > to that - at the very least, they become aware that > THE world isn't necessarily THEIR world - not everyone > thinks the same way about things. That is true. However, in the case of my particular firm, which had a large practice in civil and employment rights, and a disproportionate amount of sensitive and highly educated people, it would have been rare or impossible to find someone bigoted or prone to making stupid remarks or jokes. The sensitivity training came as a result of one woman, who had serious psychological problems, who would accuse every lawyer who gave her a bad review of sexually harassing her. She was using it as a weapon to intimidate the firm and hold on to her job. Probably not all places of employment are so vigilant, but in the case of law firms, a stained reputation can cause them to dissolve overnight. Allegations of discrimination or hostile work environment can lead to not only private complaints, but intervention by the Dept. of Labor - who can come in and literally shut down a business and seize its computers and records on a moment's notice for employment violations. Email that is deleted by an individual is never really deleted and still lives on the system. I have always felt that the firms don't care about the goofing off as much as they care about potential liability problems that can put them out of business. > Even though I understand the logic of this, one of the > things that bothers me about this is, what if someone, > out of sheer maliciousness, sent you something by > e-mail, like something really pornographic? You have > no control over this and yet you might possibly be > blamed for it. At the places I've worked they have addressed this by asking people to immediate report any such unwanted or unsolicited emails. That way, they can take steps to get it off the system quickly before it becomes buried and irretrievable. There is some kind of software now that does capture anything suspicious before it goes to the inbox, too. Back to the sensitivity training - ours was a bit over the top. For example, if I wish someone a Happy St. Patrick's Day, I could be accused of hostilely imposing my ethnic and religious beliefs on someone. Kind of ridiculous, but that's what it has come to in some cases. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:40:23 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: E-mail Interception NJC --- kakki wrote: > > Back to the sensitivity training - ours was a bit > over the top. For > example, if I wish someone a Happy St. Patrick's > Day, I could be accused of > hostilely imposing my ethnic and religious beliefs > on someone. Kind of > ridiculous, but that's what it has come to in some > cases. Ours never went that far. Thank God(dess)/Deity/ies (or not) of your choice, hey, whatever works for you, I'm cool. They did discuss the possibility of that sort of thing offending someone (just so you're aware, kind of thing). Same thing with telling someone they looked good today - is it sexual harassment? Are you implying that I don't *always* look good? Are you giving me special treatment because I'm *different* somehow? Does that make you a racist/sexist/whatever? Are you implying that everyone else looks like crap? What's the hidden agenda? ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:40:47 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC How about a home grown tomato..thinly sliced.. with a little mayo on wheat bread. (toasted) OR tomato and cottage cheese???? Now that is eating!! Bree NP: Usually/Always..Fred Simon Kate..are you doing a Quall on us? >tomatoes are best alone, imho....i am not sure if there is anything more >delicious than a sunwarmed tomatoe straight off the vine with vegie salt on >it...yuuuummmmmm.... > > >>i emphatically agree, catherine. tomatoes are such rebels! some foods >combined with tomatoes will be delicious yet others will profoundly >distress >me. >wallyK, quite on the fence when it comes to tomatoes.<< > >******************************************** >Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com >Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs >Over the Moon- >"bringing the melancholy world of twilight >to life almost like magic" All Music Guide >******************************************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:01:45 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Valentine Days Set List Joni Song Okay the local radio station has a valentine days setlist that you email in and they play. You pick 5 songs and send it in winner gets one of the seven grand prizes. I do it every year and have yet to have my set played. I know that they only want one song per artist or it would be lit up with another Joni list that won't get played. So I thought one song from Joni, but which one? then a joni song by someone else possibly Diana Krall - A Case of You (Live in Paris)? then maybe some other recommendations. Let me know I want to get this in this week. Peace, Craig NP: Van Morrison - when the leaves come falling down ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:02:39 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: NJC Re: Joni songs on piano NJC Thanks ..Fred! I got the cd's today. My first thought is how effortlessly you play. I wish you were in my living room.. Much more later. I never cared for Lennon/McCartney's.. Julia..lukewarmn to say the least.. until I heard your version today. Folks...it's so beautiful and sweet.. Bree NP: A view of you..Fred Simon > >> Some > >> folks on this list claim to enjoy [Songs of My Youth, Vol. 1] very >much; > > > > > >What he said. > > >Thanks, Bob. > >Fred _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:51:31 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: E-mail Interception NJC Catherine wrote: > Same thing with telling someone they > looked good today - is it sexual harassment? Are you > implying that I don't *always* look good? Are you > giving me special treatment because I'm *different* > somehow? Does that make you a racist/sexist/whatever? > Are you implying that everyone else looks like crap? > What's the hidden agenda? Hmm, sounds like the training manual must have been from the same source ;-) What do you think of all this? I think it's really kind of nuts. All I've seen it do is give more opportunistic people a chance to make some quick money off a company. After our training, some people were just looking under rocks to catch something to be offended about and perhaps make a claim. We had a young guy and woman in the office who became a couple for two years. They openly held hands and hugged each other in the office and lived together for a time. He started cheating on her and wanted to dump her and then had the audacity to try to lodge a sexual harassment complaint against her. He did not succeed, but geez. Another guy wanted to lodge a complaint against an woman employee because she referred to an Asian friend of her daughter as "oriental" in his presence. Yes, it is the wrong term to use, but a person from an older generation doesn't always know better and certainly does not have ill intent in using the wrong terminology. I think people should be sensitive but some of this stuff is crazy. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:14:46 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC > cottage cheese???? Should be banned from the planet. Ewwwwwwwwww!!! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:40:07 -0500 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC I can understand Lori's sentiments...*but* freshly made, real cottage cheese is an utter (udder?) delight. Back in when I was young in 1902, a stall in Baltimore's Lexington Market had cottage cheese that was, I swear it, to die for. One of my favorite meals in the summer then was their large curd cottage cheese and tons of whatever fruit was ripe and cheap. Cheerz, Janet and Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty, who has never appeared even one whit interested in cottage cheese (or fruits, for that matter, except for moi) At 08:14 PM 1/29/2003 -0800, Lori Fye wrote: > > cottage cheese???? > >Should be banned from the planet. Ewwwwwwwwww!!! > >Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:31:43 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC NO!!!!!! NO WAAAAAAYYYYY!!! I just had a side dish of cottage cheese with spanish rice tonight. Kate...I spelled (Dan) Quayle wrong. I spelled it QUAll. WE had a mayor in Cincinnati a few years ago her name was Roxanne Quall. Bree > > cottage cheese???? > >Should be banned from the planet. Ewwwwwwwwww!!! > >Lori _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:31:27 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: Joni songs on piano NJC Thanks so much for your sweet words, Bree. I wish I was in your living room, too. Is there a piano there? If so, book a home concert! Fred In a message dated 1/29/03 10:02:47 PM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: >Thanks ..Fred! I got the cd's today. My first thought is how effortlessly >you play. I wish you were in my living room.. Much more later. I never >cared for Lennon/McCartney's.. Julia..lukewarmn to say the least.. until >I heard your version today. Folks...it's so beautiful and sweet.. > >Bree > >NP: A view of you..Fred Simon > >> >> Some >> >> folks on this list claim to enjoy [Songs of My Youth, Vol. 1] very >>much; >> > >> > >> >What he said. >> >> >>Thanks, Bob. >> >>Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:32:42 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Joni + Don Are there any insiders on this list who know whether Joni and Don Freed are still an item? I'm curious if he too has joined the legions of Joni's ex-bows. - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:42:30 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC >Back in when I was young in 1902, a stall in Baltimore's Lexington >Market >had cottage cheese.. You maybe Joni's oldest living fan? Amazing! >Cheerz, > >Janet and Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty, who has never appeared even one whit >interested in cottage cheese (or fruits, for that matter, except for moi) My cats will always give it a couple of licks..then sort of start backing up....like second thought... it's not so good afterall. Never fails! Bree >At 08:14 PM 1/29/2003 -0800, Lori Fye wrote: >> > cottage cheese???? >> >>Should be banned from the planet. Ewwwwwwwwww!!! >> >>Lori _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:34:35 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Joni + Don Andrew asked: > Are there any insiders on this list who know whether > Joni and Don Freed are still an item? I'm curious if > he too has joined the legions of Joni's ex-bows. When I met Joni and Coco ;-) with Stephen in around Sept. 2001, she told us all about their then-recent break-up. I don't think they've gotten back together because in an interview a few months ago she was saying she kind of liked being unattached at this point. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:52:43 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Why I don't like tuna.... NJC lol...i missed that one...maybe i should run for office? ;~} >>Kate..are you doing a Quall on us?<< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:02:23 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: Joni + Don Oh well - I guess Joni just isn't the "commitment" type. I think any man who enters into a relationship with Joni now probably understands that, if she doesn't make it clear to them from the outset. I admire her free spirit, I must say. I'm at a time in my life now where I'm wondering if I'm a settle-down type of guy or a wanderer. Both ways of being appeal to me, as I'm sure they do to Joni. The safety and security of a stable love creates friction with a perceived loss of indepence, living for yourself but also for another, never truly being alone. Your decisions always influence another person when in a realtionship and you soon "talk of love in terms of sacrifice and compromise." On the other hand, the freedom and indepence of singlehood or casual dating can sometimes spiral down to loneliness and isolation and you yearn for that togetherness, that warmth of another body, another soul, another mind. See above for the problems with togetherness! It's a vicious circle, this love. But... I'd be nothing without love... - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #73 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)