From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #30 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 14 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 030 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- grief njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Best Albums of 2002 and tales of music outdoors sjc ["Lucy Hone" ] Re: Bush Lies - who lies? (njc) (pc) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: attn. Bob fans NJC [David Sadowski ] Re: Attn: BobFans njc ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: attn. Bob fans NJC [Mags N Brei ] Re: Best Albums of 2002 and tales of music outdoors njc [hell ] Re: Handclaps on 'Old Road Gone' (NJC) [Randy Remote ] cdbaby customers NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: 2002 Fav's NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: cdbaby customers NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Newest "Tori head" checks in from the petty wars, njc ["Stephen Toogo] Re: Bush Lies - who lies? (njc) (pc) ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Bush Lies - who lies? (njc) (pc) [colin ] Re: Handclaps on 'Old Road Gone' (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Attn: BobFans njc [Mags N Brei ] ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(La] Re: Attn: BobFans njc [Scott Price ] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #29 - Ah ha! [BRYAN8847@aol.com] RE: Attn: BobFans njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: George W. Bush Waived the Nuclear Inspections Required for North Korea, NJC ["Lori Fye" ] Re: (njc) a different kind of Fred gig/department of brazen self-promotion [Catherine McKay ] Re: Attn: BobFans njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 [Catherine McKay <] Re: Truly madly deeply njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: (njc) a different kind of Fred gig/department of brazen self-promotion [FredNow@aol] RE: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 ["Jim L'Hommedieu ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:24:30 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: grief njc >Grief cannot be shaken off as if it never was. It shapes you, becomes a part of you. It informs your future. It often accentuates one's own compassion for others.< well said, i often think of the naive & fairly sheltered person i was when i was younger & that if i had not had some of the experiences i did...that i might be a more shallow person...the hardships i have endured, found my way through (by the grace of god sometimes) have made me who i am & given me much more compassion... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:16:15 +0000 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: Best Albums of 2002 and tales of music outdoors sjc Oh I am finding this hard but.... here goes. this is what I bought this year although some of it is old. The Optimist ...Turin Breaks New day at Midnight ....David Gray By the Way.......Red Hot Chilli Peppers 18...Moby Come away with me...Norah Jones Spirits Colliding.... Paul Brady Elton John greatest hits. Not to forget stuff given to me such as Boo Hewardine, Jeb Loy Nicholls, MTV Unplugged. and some French songs by Frances Cabrel. My friends describe my musical tastes as "patchwork". Joni, as always reigns supreme with it impossible for me to choose a favourite album. I found myself appreciating Jazz through her, I began to like Bob Dylan because of her, I spent my early teens entranced by her voice and learned to play acoustic guitar (you can fit lots of her songs to C,G,Am if you have no chance of anyone putting the real Joni on)... One of my favourite tv skits ever was on French and Saunders where Ralph McTell was in court, being prosecuted for his impossibly complicated book "101 songs for easy guitar" and was being tried by Dawn French. Ranged as expert witnesses were such guitar luminaries as Lemmy, Mark King,..(?)Gilmore... Oh loads of people (please remind me someone). They came on, played exerpts from their songs and then were invited to play the same song from the book...."and now WITH the book" became the mantra..and were unable to do so.It was hilarious. All the time this was going on Ralph stood in the dock looking smug until asked to do "Streets of London" he played it and then was asked "and now WITH the book" and failed miserably. It was the funniest thing and if you have never seen it try and find someone who has it on tape........ Back to Joni and me. When Walkmans first came out I bought one (and lived off beans on toast for a month after) I had a tape of Blue and went off to a favourite hill to sit and submerge myself in the scenery and some class music... It is a lesson in restraint not to sing along isn't it? So taken was I, with the loudness of the music in my head, I totally forgot I was outside, on a summers day and that no-one else could hear what I could. My totally free-spirited rendition of Little Green cleared a pic-nic table nearby and the cows that had been looking interestedly at me moved away..... All happening in front of me and I had not the faintest idea why.I just thought it a little strange... It took a couple of other tracks before someone tapped me on the shoulder and, I removed the headphones. "please don't sing". Ah well...... I have one more lovely tale to tell of music enjoyed outdoors. In 2000 I went skiing in Val Thorens with a friend ofmine. I do not ski and had proved the point on the first day by ripping my cruciate ligaments and so was resigned (OH BIG SHAME) to cafes and bars with views over the best scenery in the world (possibly). I had gone back to the car for my pain killers and decided, while I was there to relax in the sunshine with the car doors open, the CD player on and Vaughan Williams Lark Ascending on the go. It was a blazingly sunny day and I sat there just away with the music... and maybe some painrelief but who cares...its a beautiful piece of music... As the final note ended a shadow dropped over my eyes and I thought it was my mate back from his king of the downhill stuff... NO it was a beautifully dressed man wearing one of those hats with a little feather in the side. He had on wonderful lederhosen (those shorts things in leather with braces) and was standing there with a pen and paper. "hallow" he said in rather clipped tones. "Ve are from Austria. Voss iss diss music pliss?" so I wrote it all down and gave him the correct way of saying the name and helped him understand the piece and its allusion to summer on the Sussex downs... a place you have to visit if any of you come over to England.. and he was really happy.. I asked him why he liked it.."Oh is not for me.. is for my vife... she is shut up for ze holl 15 minute, end I want buy it for ze long journeys" and with that he clicked his heels and walked away.......... Music is a universal unifier isn't it!!! All good things to all who read this and look up for along the horizon the sky growns brighter... Lucy Np... Moby We are all made of stars.... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:34:42 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Attn: BobFans njc she is performing in town next weekend as part of our wonderful singer songwriter series (sings like hell) we have in a wonderful small theatre...i'm really looking forward to hearing her after hearing about her for years!... i don't have any of her cds but will be sure to buy one from her...for you bnc fans- which ones are your favorites? i'm sorry to hear she has been dealing with cancer...i hope her upcoming concert means she is doing okay now... >>Bob. I am a huge BNC fan. She has recently had a serious battle with cancer. Looking forward to this on a Covers cd!<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:44:59 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Bush Lies - who lies? (njc) (pc) we are in such a great position now that we have access to iraq...imo it would be the most extreme idiocy to go forward with a war when there is an opportunity to achieve similar results without the huge financial expense of war & the loss human lives ... lori >>do we solve this by going to war? Why not just take out Saddam himself? Surely that's possible, without killing innocent civilians with stray "smart bombs."<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:36:42 -0600 From: Subject: RE: attn. Bob fans NJC Debra wrote: "I'm pretty sure it was the original Dylan recording. The songs on Blood on the Tracks are very open sounding, with clear acoustic guitar work, and his voice is much gentler than the way he sings these days, although still with his distinctive phrasing. So, I think it was him, the 1974 him; of course, I could be wrong about that." Well, now I'm really curious. I'm quite familiar with that 1974 Dylan recording: I owned it for many years, and played the stuffings out of it my last couple of years in college. My first reaction upon hearing the song last night on Crossing Jordan, though, was, "Coooool! Interesting new version!" Not for one second did I think it was the original, or Dylan. Of course, I was multi-tasking at the time (I'm throwing that out just in case I'm wrong. ;-) ) Anyone else who saw the ep want to weigh in? If it wasn't Bob, I'd really love to know who it was! Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:40:56 -0600 From: David Sadowski Subject: Re: attn. Bob fans NJC Sure it wasn't Neko Case's recent version off Blacklisted? blckcrow@chorus.net wrote: >Debra wrote: > >"I'm pretty sure it was the original Dylan recording. The songs on Blood >on the Tracks are very open sounding, with clear acoustic guitar work, >and his voice is much gentler than the way he sings these days, although >still with his distinctive phrasing. So, I think it was him, the 1974 >him; of course, I could be wrong about that." > >Well, now I'm really curious. I'm quite familiar with that 1974 Dylan recording: I owned it for many years, and played the stuffings out of it my last couple of years in college. My first reaction upon hearing the song last night on Crossing Jordan, though, was, "Coooool! Interesting new version!" Not for one second did I think it was the original, or Dylan. > >Of course, I was multi-tasking at the time (I'm throwing that out just in case I'm wrong. ;-) ) > >Anyone else who saw the ep want to weigh in? > >If it wasn't Bob, I'd really love to know who it was! > >Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:55:11 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Attn: BobFans njc >>The songs on Blood on the Tracks are very open sounding, with clear acoustic guitar work, and his voice is much gentler than the way he sings these days,<< we were watching a dylan dvd last week (i forget the name right now) of his early early days & i was struck by the fact that dylan had a very good quality of voice back then...jeff thinks his motorcycle accident did some damage to his voice somehow... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:45:13 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: RE: attn. Bob fans NJC Mary P. wrote: Well, now I'm really curious. I'm quite familiar with that 1974 Dylan recording: I owned it for many years, and played the stuffings out of it my last couple of years in college. My first reaction upon hearing the song last night on Crossing Jordan, though, was, "Coooool! Interesting new version!" Not for one second did I think it was the original, or Dylan. Anyone else who saw the ep want to weigh in? If it wasn't Bob, I'd really love to know who it was! okay, Ive got Blood on the Tracks on now and Im not sure if it was Dylan on last nights episode or not. It's a beautiful little song isnt it . ;-) tks to Debra and everyone else for chiming in on this little thread. Mags. You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:57:36 -0800 (PST) From: hell Subject: Re: Best Albums of 2002 and tales of music outdoors njc Lucy wrote: >One of my favourite tv skits ever was on French and Saunders where Ralph >McTell was in court, being prosecuted for his impossibly complicated book >"101 songs for easy guitar" and was being tried by Dawn French. Ranged as >expert witnesses were such guitar luminaries as Lemmy, Mark >King,..(?)Gilmore... Oh loads of people (please remind me someone). They >came on, played exerpts from their songs and then were invited to play >the same song from the book...."and now WITH the book" became the >mantra..and were unable to do so.It was hilarious. All the time this was >going on Ralph stood in the dock looking smug until asked to do "Streets >of London" he played it and then was asked "and now WITH the book" and >failed miserably. It was the funniest thing and if you have never seen it >try and find someone who has it on tape........ I have to chime in here, since this is also one of my favourite skits - and French and Saunders are my heroes! The other important point that the prosecution was making against McTell was that the book didn't have the chord diagrams - "the little pictures that show you where to put your fingers" - "no little pictures" was another phrase repeated numerous times! The witnesses included Lemmy (Motorhead), Mark King (Flock of Seagulls), David Gilmour (Pink Floyd) and Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits). I can still picture Mark Knopfler saying he can't play Sultans of Swing because "there are no little pictures". Hilarious! Hell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:49:01 +0000 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: Truly madly deeply njc From: ReckersL@ebrd.com What I wanted to see, was: how do you REALLY cope with grief? When it really keeps hurting without surprise solutions, when you don't have a deus ex machine hopping along? How do you learn to be strong ON YOUR OWN or just with some pretty average people around you to give pretty average support? How to snap yourself out of that "nothing compares" despair... Grief is a very personal experience. You cannot "see" what grief is like on a film. My closest grief experience was on the death of my mother in May 2000. her death was unexpected as she was carried away by some unexpected recurrence of a medical problem (not cancer) and she died..... she just died... 12 days start to finish and she was gone. Its like being in a glass tunnel. You are in there shouting and banging the walls that "hey! my mother, my poet, my artist, my wonderfully batty and very irritable mother has died.. Hey!" bang bang bang on the walls and all the time the world just goes on moving past you and you think you wont ever re-join the days of other beings. Its like being stuck in treacle and you just cannot move for the shock of it. How do you get through it? you breathe and you talk and you smoke (if you do..... Oh boy do you smoke) and you laugh and you cry and you do irrelevant things that you do everyday but you notice how irrlevant they are and you change and gradually the automatism of getting through it all just eases.... just a bit. You find you just live. I feel now, almost three years on that she is away on a holiday and won't come back. She has lost her address book and so there are no cards or letters but sometimes when I am writing or when I am sitting thinking about life and times and things that matter I know she is there. I miss her terribly and I see more and more of her in me as the days go by and those similarities emerge in so many ways.. and somehow that helps...tonight was a bit special though.... I went to my daughter's parents evening tonight and sat down infront of her Geography teacher. He looked at me and did a double take.... "I am sorry, but you look like someone I used to teach with, she was my mentor when I first came to this school and you are so like her".... "Well if it was Joy Hone then that was my mother as she taught here"..(my diaghter has her fathers name so he would not have known) and for the next 10 minutes I sat there as he talked lovingly about my mother and how she really really helped him and I felt so happy to have my mother introduced to me from a totally unexpected angle. And that is when I realised the grieving was over. I didn't cry, I did not even get that awful feeling in my stomach when someone talks about her. I just felt so pleased to have had this "contact" and I had not sought it. So to answer your query, we each have our own way that the death of someone special affects us. I hope, if your query is because of a personal situation, that you have the love and support of friends, as that is the key to recovery...looking forward, not back. Breathe and find someting small each day to be thankful for. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:54:30 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Handclaps on 'Old Road Gone' (NJC) Thanks for the props, Kakki! I guess some of that NorCal rock has rubbed off on me...in fact the drummer is the nephew of Sons of Champlin's Terry Haggarty... Also just found out they put me up on CDBaby at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/hanna The Crosby-Nash show sounds like a winner, too... RR kakki wrote: > Congratulations on the new release, Randy! > > I listened to some of the samples and oooh, it's just that heart of classic > Northern California music that I've always loved! I loved the album cover > photo, too. I swear I came across that same washout along Highway 1 > sometime back at the height of the El Nino '80s. ;-) Great job and let us > know if you are doing any live shows! > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:16:47 -0500 From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: 2002 Fav's Here's my pick of favs from 2002. 1. June Tabor - Rosa Mundi. Breathtakingly beautiful! This one might take a few listens, but the rewards are well worth the effort. This is late night, glass of wine, roaring fire kind of music. Extremely romantic, highly melancholy, and exquisitely recorded. Accompanied primarily by piano, and string quartet, June's voice has never sounded better. I can't imagine anyone on this list not being knocked out by this recording. 2. Joni Mitchell - Travelogue. Not much to say that hasn't already been said. This album absolutely works for me. 3. Steve Earle - Jerusalem. Rocking and controversial - this is classic Steve. 4. Peter Gabriel - Up. This one took a while, but has really grown on me. While driving to work one day, my wife called to tell me that her mother had finally succumbed to her fight with lung cancer. In one of those amazing synergystic moments, immediately after hanging up with her, the song "I Grieve" started to play. It was so emotionally wrenching, that I had to pull off the road. Anyone who has ever lost a loved one, either to death or through a painful break up, should be able to feel the despair in this song. 5. Beck - Sea Changes. This guy keeps finding new ways to express himself, and this latest release is a beaut. I was a little put off at first by the sameness of the sound over the whole CD, but this no longer bothers me. Another one for thoses quiet evenings at home. I'm sure there were others, but these are the five that I keep returning to over and over. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:26:46 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Anna Jim wrote: > Wayne's wife Anna was lost to a terrorist > bringing down a jetliner. Ummmmm....she was on TWA 800, wasn't she? Can't blame terrorists for that one. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:02:05 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: cdbaby customers NJC i know there are a few cdbaby customers on this list & i'd like to ask you do do me a HUGE favor...there is a new page on the cdbaby website called FLAVOR & one of the categories is FAMOUS GUESTS...i've requested that they list my cd in this category as my cd certainly qualifies (with kenny loggins, jim messina, & jeff pevar of CPR) but i think it would help if others beside me make this request...& i think it could help sell more cds which will bring me closer to finishing my next cd! so if you'd like to help go to http://www.cdbaby.com/flavor/famousguests at the bottom of the page in the green box you will see where you can link to your account to make this request, thanks so much!!!!! ps, my cd is called Over the Moon by Kate Bennett ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:02:55 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: 2002 Fav's NJC In a message dated 1/14/2003 4:16:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, Merk54 writes: > 3. Steve Earle - Jerusalem. Rocking and controversial - > this is classic Steve. Thanks for mentioning this one, Jack...I dug it back out and have been playing it steadily on the home player over the last couple of days. Besides being VERY listenable with great melodic rockers, Steve is a great lyricist and like you say is definitely NOT afraid to take on the tough subjects. A nice antidote to all the jingoistic Toby Keith that gets shoved in my face here in SC. Another excellent 2002 release that no one has mentioned in their roundups is "Going Driftless: A Tribute to Greg Brown" that is just SO superb, and how could it not be with the likes of Ani, Shawn, Lucinda, Iris, Gillian, Ferron...the list goes on. I never enjoyed Greg's VOICE so I could never get past that to see what a truly great songwriter he is. Bob NP: Dylan, "Boots of Spanish Leather" 6/26/65 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:13:04 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: cdbaby customers NJC In a message dated 1/14/2003 4:02:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: > at the bottom of the page in the green box you will see > where you can link > to your account to make this request, thanks so much!!!!! OK Kate...done & done. You now officially owe me a Rolling Rock. :~) Bob, still waiting on his latest CDBaby order... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:49:27 -0000 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: Newest "Tori head" checks in from the petty wars, njc "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" wrote:- > Would one of the JMDL girls call me up and explain to > me what "little earthquakes" means? We I've always thought that it means 'MY OWN little earthquakes'. You know like personal problems that will effect me greatly but won't really make much difference on the scale of things. Something like that, if I'm making any sense! Always good to hear that more people are geting turned on to Tori. She really is talented and I'm loving 'Scarlet's Walk'. STEVE T NP: 'Frog On My Toe' - Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:42:53 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Bush Lies - who lies? (njc) (pc) > imo it would be the most extreme idiocy to go forward with a war when > there is an opportunity to achieve similar results without the huge > financial expense of war & the loss human lives ... Kate, you're right of course. Unfortunately, we have the most extreme idiots running the country right now ... These are men (for the most part -- does anyone understand what's up with Condoleeza Rice??) who seem to have been totally lost as soon as the Cold War ended. They NEED an "enemy," they NEED black and white issues, and they need oil money. They don't really want to negotiate. They want war, regardless of the cost. And of course it won't cost THEM, or their families -- you can bet on it. Lori, donning her asbestos-lined suit ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:06:30 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: cdbaby customers NJC --- Kate Bennett wrote: > i know there are a few cdbaby customers on this list > & i'd like to ask you > do do me a HUGE favor...there is a new page on the > cdbaby website called > FLAVOR & one of the categories is FAMOUS > GUESTS...i've requested that they > list my cd in this category as my cd certainly > qualifies (with kenny > loggins, jim messina, & jeff pevar of CPR) > > but i think it would help if others beside me make > this request...& i think > it could help sell more cds which will bring me > closer to finishing my next > cd! Done, Hon. Question - anyone else out there got stuff at CDBaby? I got Big Yellow Taxi and two of Patti Witten's (am going to get the new one too.) If there's anyone out there on the list that has stuff at CDBaby, can you let me know? Thanks. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:11:01 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Bush Lies - who lies? (njc) (pc) > And of course it won't cost >THEM, or their families -- > if they think that, they are making a grave mistake. > >Lori, >donning her asbestos-lined suit ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:02 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Bush Lies - who lies? (njc) (pc) --- Lori Fye wrote: > > > does anyone > understand what's up > with Condoleeza Rice??) Well, for one thing, her parents gave her this weird first name.... ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:16:46 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: cdbaby customers NJC --- Catherine McKay wrote: >Done, Hon. Question - anyone else out there got > stuff > at CDBaby? I got Big Yellow Taxi and two of Patti > Witten's (am going to get the new one too.) If > there's > anyone out there on the list that has stuff at > CDBaby, > can you let me know? Oh yeah, I got Kate Bennett's too. Yeesh. Of course I did. I figured that was a given until I hit the send button and realized you can't assume anything. Oh and Randy Remote just posted to say his is up now, so there's another one. Yep, that's www.cdbaby.com ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:18:00 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Handclaps on 'Old Road Gone' (NJC) --- Randy Remote wrote: > Thanks for the props, Kakki! > I guess some of that NorCal rock has rubbed off on > me...in > fact the drummer is the nephew of Sons of Champlin's > Terry Haggarty... > Also just found out they put me up on CDBaby at > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/hanna OK, so what's your *real* name anyway? :) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:18:56 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Fwd: George W. Bush Waived the Nuclear Inspections Required for North Korea,NJC Return-path: From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Full-name: MINGSDANCE Message-ID: <19f.ef43b19.2b546d07@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:27:03 EST Subject: Fwd: George W. Bush Waived the Nuclear Inspections Required for North Korea To: acool@edison.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10578 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Return-Path: Received: from aol.com (mow-m27.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINID121-0113103808; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:38:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:38:03 -0500 From: MaitMeltz@aol.com To: JJJKKKZZZ@aol.com, Awmlsfl@aol.com, Fuzzywaz04@aol.com, Gailmurso@aol.com, stobin@erols.com (Susan Robson Tobin), MINGSDANCE@aol.com, LEMaitland@aol.com, LRLehrman@aol.com, Linda_Geyer@Sheraton.com, wseebeck@mindspring.com, KatEpple@aol.com, lazar@his.com (Paul Lazar), julesharr@excite.com (Julie Harr), ELazar@nw.org (Ellen Lazar), SHAHOLIDAY@aol.com, GeyerRed@aol.com, nsusha@msn.com, Pamelaurso@aol.com, HJeff36415@aol.com, wmarvinstevens@msn.com, cmharr@students.wisc.edu, clear2land@aol.com, davidjohn@juno.com, moharr77@yahoo.com, meltz100@aol.com, andijustis@aol.com (Andi Horowitz), litternot@earthlink.net, SDavisB@aol.com, cmoore@icanswfl.org, cpeacock4@aol.com, Jack.Koczela@verizon.net, Julie.Koczela@verizon.net, atardif@fgcu.edu Subject: George W. Bush Waived the Nuclear Inspections Required for North Korea MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <76ABB24D.4B85F5EA.025E2207@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain somehow this seems to be a bit "newsworthy" yes? Let's see if and when the networks/press report it. Return-Path: Received: from rly-xb03.mx.aol.com (rly-xb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.104]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXB43-0113082817; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:28:17 -0500 Received: from spirit.sparklist.com (spirit.sparklist.com [216.91.57.193]) by rly-xb03.mx.aol.com (v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB39-0113082747; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:27:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 05:24:54 -0800 Subject: Correction:George W. Bush Waived the Nuclear Inspections Required for North Korea To: "maitmeltz@aol.com" From: "BuzzFlash" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: BuzzFlash Message-Id: X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) January 13, 2003 A BUZZFLASH READER COMMENTARY In your recent BuzzFlash Reader Commentary regarding Rumsfeld and North Korea, you included an article at the end that cited Bush giving North Korea $95 million in April of 2002. I was shocked that in quoting that article you left out the next paragraph which told how Bush WAIVED the nuclear inspections required under the 1994 Framework, as he handed $95 million of our money to the "evil" people! I continue to be baffled as to why no one seems to think it's significant or worth mentioning that Bush actually WAIVED the N. Korea nuclear inspections required under the 1994 Framework. Here's the very next paragraph to that article you cited: [QUOTE] In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors. [END-QUOTE] Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1908571.stm A BUZZFLASH COMMENTARY You are currently subscribed to BuzzFlash Alerts as: maitmeltz@aol.com. To UNSUBSCRIBE send a blank email to leave-buzzflash_alerts-4532112A@spirit.sparklist.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:14:55 +0000 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: Newest "Tori head" checks in from the petty wars, njc "Jim L'Hommedieu (LamaLamaDingDong)" wrote:- >> Would one of the JMDL girls call me up and explain to >> me what "little earthquakes" means? Stephen Toogood replied: > We I've always thought that it means 'MY OWN little earthquakes'. Y'know Steve, you've just implicitly labelled yourself as a "JMDL girl"... How does it feel? :-) Personally, at risk of also being labelled a JMDL girl, I always wondered if Little Earthquakes means Orgasms. Hey ho, must be something to do with the way my mind works... - --Chris Marshall chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer", http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:27:13 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Attn: BobFans njc C'mon, Mags. Yer pullin' my leg!!! Right? You haven't committed "Buckets of Rain" to memory? You don't own a copy of the unauthorized demos called "Blood On The Tapes"? You two music fans !!!!! BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU !!!!! don't own a feckin copy of Bob Dylan's "Blood On The Tracks"?!?! Yer breakin' my heart. Get thee to a music store! Run! Lama PS, Why are you reading this? Get up from the monitor! Right now! Run! PPSS, Les, would you please unsub these two infidels until they are ready to discuss with the grownups? Sheesh! Mags asked, >>>> Tonight's episode of "Crossing Jordan" closed with a Bob-type song which I think is called "Buckets of Rain." Is it in fact a Dylan tune? Inquiring minds want to know ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:36:32 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Attn: BobFans njc LOL Lama... hey .......... not only do we own Blood on the Tracks... I listened to the whole thing today...what a trip that was (ahem). .. so there ya go. Can we stay? please??? and besides, I did a plug for your Junkies...doesnt that count for something?? Mags "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" wrote:C'mon, Mags. Yer pullin' my leg!!! Right? You haven't committed "Buckets of Rain" to memory? You don't own a copy of the unauthorized demos called "Blood On The Tapes"? You two music fans !!!!! BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU !!!!! don't own a feckin copy of Bob Dylan's "Blood On The Tracks"?!?! Yer breakin' my heart. Get thee to a music store! Run! Lama PS, Why are you reading this? Get up from the monitor! Right now! Run! PPSS, Les, would you please unsub these two infidels until they are ready to discuss with the grownups? Sheesh! Mags asked, >>>> Tonight's episode of "Crossing Jordan" closed with a Bob-type song which I think is called "Buckets of Rain." Is it in fact a Dylan tune? Inquiring minds want to know ;-) You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:39:15 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 Hold the presses! The lead story: The PBS website says that Joni's edition in the American Masters Series has been moved up from May to April 2nd, 2003. I have 2 VHS Hi-Fi VCRs. I'll be taping it, of course, so if someone wants a dub, send a blank. The tapes I make are only compatible with machines that can read a NTSC VHS tape. These are commonly found in Canada and the USA. John van Tiel reported that compatible, dual-standard VCRs are available in the Netherlands. Dunno if NZ uses the PAL (UK) format or ours. Who's in? Lama ps, Write me off-list for my snail mail address. Reference: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/mitchell_j_homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:42:50 -0800 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: Attn: BobFans njc At 07:27 PM 1/14/2003 -0500, Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\) wrote: >you don't own a feckin copy of Bob Dylan's "Blood On The Tracks"?!?! Count me in...I have thousands of records and CDs but not a single one is from Mr. Dylan. While I readily acknowledge him as a genius and place him just a notch or two below Ms. Mitchell in the talent and cultural impact departments, his musical presentation never has and likely never will do a thing for me. Blasphemously yours, Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:41:42 -0500 From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #29 - Ah ha! > I watched the stars chuck down their spears > And a plane went blinking by > And I thought of Anna > Wild and dear > Like fireworks in the sky > Fireworks in the sky > I'm so sick of this game This is perhaps a reference to Wayne's wife? I had no idea what it means. She died on TWA flight 800 -- perhaps an act of terror, they don't really know -- or aren't saying. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:48:55 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: RE: Attn: BobFans njc Well, if it's any consolation, Les is usually pretty lenient in these matters. And you DID hint that I might advocate the Junkies. If you promise to brush up on the classics, I'll back off just this one time. Deal? Lama My memory is beginning to slip, at age 47. Just a bit. Just the slightest bit. I usually notice it when my forehead is tipped back so I can read the computer screen through my God-damned bifocals.............. Scary. -----Original Message----- From: Mags N Brei [mailto:magsnbrei@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:37 PM To: Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama) Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Attn: BobFans njc LOL Lama... hey .......... not only do we own Blood on the Tracks... I listened to the whole thing today...what a trip that was (ahem). .. so there ya go. Can we stay? please??? and besides, I did a plug for your Junkies...doesnt that count for something?? Mags ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:50:47 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: George W. Bush Waived the Nuclear Inspections Required for North Korea, NJC > In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the > Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure > it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original > reactors. LOL ... well, I know my car won't run on rice ... will yours? I wonder if we can convert LIES to fuel. This administration certainly seems to have quite a few to spare. Thanks for the link, David. (It is you, yes?) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:53:20 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: (njc) a different kind of Fred gig/department of brazen self-promotion Dear friends, well-wishers, and the mildly interested: I'd like to invite you to a different kind of Fred gig. I have been commissioned by Cantor Aviva Katzman, at Temple Sholom in Chicago, to compose a new work based on the Song At The Red Sea, scored for four voices, saxophone, piano, bass, and percussion. It will be premiered at the Fifteenth Annual Cantorbs Concert, along with another composition I had previously written, as well as other works selected by Cantor Katzman and performed by a group of great musicians. I hope you can join us there ... free admission for all! Fred ======= Fifteenth Annual Cantorbs Concert featuring Cantor Aviva Katzman and composer/pianist Fred Simon with Sarah Allen: percussion Jim Gailloreto: saxophone Bill Harrison: bass Stuart Rosenberg: violin, mandolin and some other really good musicians ======= 8:00 PM, Friday, January 17, 2003 TEMPLE SHOLOM OF CHICAGO 3480 N. LAKE SHORE DRIVE, CHICAGO, IL 60657 773-525-4707 temple@sholomchicago.org FREE ADMISSION ======= ***ABSOLUTELY WE WILL SPREAD OUR GROOVE AND INTERNATIONAL FEELING*** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:55:15 -0800 (PST) From: hell Subject: Re: Fainting - NJC Ashara wrote: > (Note to self: remember the fainting trick for future benefit) This doesn't have anything to do with Joni, but I witnessed first-hand the benefits fainting can bring on my last trip to the US for Jonifest. I was on the flight from Auckland to LA (about 11-12 hours long) and was sitting on the aisle, next to the window seat. The guy next to me obviously hadn't flown much, eg. I had to show him how to work his seatbelt - which was confusing him a great deal more than it should have! He actually moved seats because he couldn't get his video screen to work (which suited me, because I then had both seats to myself, and I got his screen working in about 10 seconds), but after the meal he got up to use the bathroom, and while waiting in the queue, he fainted. A doctor was on board, and the last I saw he was being led up the aisle with an oxygen mask over his face, looking rather pale. After the flight I was outside in LA, having a long-anticipated cigarette, when he walked by. I asked him how he was, and he was absolutely fine - having spent about 10 hours of the flight in first-class, and by-passing all the queues for immigration! He said he'd never fainted before in his life, and had no idea what had happened but that he might try it again on his return trip! Hell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:38:28 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: (njc) a different kind of Fred gig/department of brazen self-promotion --- FredNow@aol.com wrote: > Dear friends, well-wishers, and the mildly > interested: > > > I'd like to invite you to a different kind of Fred > gig. I have been > commissioned by Cantor Aviva Katzman, at Temple > Sholom in Chicago, to compose > a new work based on the Song At The Red Sea, scored > for four voices, > saxophone, piano, bass, and percussion. WOW! How cool is that!!! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:45:28 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Attn BobFans njc Mary wrote: >Jill Hennesey, the star of the show, has a pretty decent voice herself, and >has sung on at least one episode, maybe more. I sense that she's very >conversant with what's going on in music today and in the recent past (she was >in the audience at the Joni Tribute a few years back, and appeared very >attentive). My theory is that at least some of the use of music on "CJ" is >her doing, but I could be wrong. I happened to see her on "The View" a few weeks ago and they asked her to sing. She did part of Circle Game and then a little bit of Thunder Road for some contrast. >....I really like things "ER" has done with >music: its working in of Beth Nielson Chapman's "Sand and Water" a few years >back still gives me chills. But "Crossing Jordan" both uses songs in an >interesting way and uses interesting songs. I like how TV shows are inserting music to create a mood, too. Boston Public just used a Crowded House song this week. Gotta love that. Kerry (who has been turned into a TV-watching-slug by this cold Wisconsin winter!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:51:28 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Attn: BobFans njc --- Scott Price wrote: > At 07:27 PM 1/14/2003 -0500, Jim L'Hommedieu > \(Lama\) wrote: > >you don't own a feckin copy of Bob Dylan's "Blood > On The Tracks"?!?! > > > Count me in...I have thousands of records and CDs > but not a single one is > from Mr. Dylan. While I readily acknowledge him as a > genius and place him > just a notch or two below Ms. Mitchell in the talent > and cultural impact > departments, his musical presentation never has and > likely never will do a > thing for me. > > Blasphemously yours, > Let me join you in your blasphemy. I do own a couple of Dylan CDs, but not "Blood on the tracks" (that I know of, that is.) I'm not crazy about his, er, vocal stylings either, and there's no point flogging a dead horse, is there - if I don't get it, I don't get it. I have Joan Baez sings Dylan (I'm not crazy about Joan's voice either, I find it irritating) and Judy Collins sings Dylan, plus the man himself doing Blonde on Blonde and Hwy 61, but that is it. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:12:09 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 --- "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" wrote: > Hold the presses! The lead story: > > The PBS website says that Joni's edition in the > American Masters Series has > been moved up from May to April 2nd, 2003. Hang on a mo', bro'. They're confusing. They have something listed from April 2, 2002 (that's two). They also have something listed for May 2003 (this year) (no particular date specified.) When you click on either link... it says April 2, 2003 (which, by the way, just happens to be my birthday, ahem, ahem.) They have a calendar too, but it doesn't seem to go past this month. I've just e-mailed them to ask for clarification. If they answer, I'll be sure to let you know. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:23:56 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Truly madly deeply njc --- Lucy Hone wrote: > > Grief is a very personal experience. You cannot > "see" what grief is like > on a film. My closest grief experience was on the > death of my mother in > May 2000. her death was unexpected as she was > carried away by some > unexpected recurrence of a medical problem (not > cancer) and she died..... > she just died... Oh my goodness, can I ever relate to this. Grief is so individual and so dependent on what else has gone on before and what's happening in the here and now. Sometimes it's overwhelmingly sad, other times it's happy in a bittersweet way. Either way, you probably want to cry. When someone, out of the blue, mentions something about the person you've lost, as your daughter's teacher did to you (without knowing the relationship), that's like a gift of grace, isn't it. It's almost like the one who's gone has sent you a message of hope. I lost my Mum about six (or is it 8) years ago, and my Dad almost three years to this day. Mum died of cancer and was ill for a long,long time; Dad died of a massive coronary without any warning - one minute alive and talking, the next minute down on the floor breathing out one last breath, with no apparent pain. Sometimes I remember little things, or I'm looking at old pictures of them and I don't know whether to be happy or sad, or just plain scared about being the older generation and possibly failing at it. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:44:46 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc) a different kind of Fred gig/department of brazen self-promotion In a message dated 1/14/03 8:45:35 PM, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > --- FredNow@aol.com wrote: > Dear friends, >well-wishers, and the mildly >> interested: >> >> >> I'd like to invite you to a different kind of Fred >> gig. I have been >> commissioned by Cantor Aviva Katzman, at Temple >> Sholom in Chicago, to compose >> a new work based on the Song At The Red Sea, scored >> for four voices, >> saxophone, piano, bass, and percussion. > >WOW! How cool is that!!! Yeah ... c'mon down! - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:35:46 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: RE: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 On http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/current_season/ They have: Program 5 February 2003 Program 6 March 19, 2003 (Wed) missing program 7- see below Program 8 April 2, 2002 Joni Program 7 April 16, 2003 Wed Muddy Program 9 May 28, 2003 Wed Capra Program 10 Summer 2003 Program 11 Winter 2003 t looks to me like they might have reshuffled but if Muddy Waters (listed as program 7) really does preceed Joni, then who knows? Indeed, it's possible that Program 11 (winter 2003) might be intended for March 23rd, April 9th or 23rd. You're right, McKay. It's far from consistent and reliable. Lama (not that you need a man to validate your point of view. As a matter of fact.... oh to hell with it.... :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:12 PM > To: Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama); JMDL > Subject: Re: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 > > > --- "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" > wrote: > Hold the presses! The lead story: > > > > The PBS website says that Joni's edition in the > > American Masters Series has > > been moved up from May to April 2nd, 2003. > > Hang on a mo', bro'. They're confusing. They have > something listed from April 2, 2002 (that's two). They > also have something listed for May 2003 (this year) > (no particular date specified.) When you click on > either link... it says April 2, 2003 (which, by the > way, just happens to be my birthday, ahem, ahem.) > > They have a calendar too, but it doesn't seem to go > past this month. > > I've just e-mailed them to ask for clarification. If > they answer, I'll be sure to let you know. > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #30 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)