From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #25 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, January 12 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 025 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- more on Paula Cole & Joni [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Maurice Gibb NJC [colin ] Lama's revenge? njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: Niece? BS ALERT!, NJC ["Moni Kellermann" ] Re: poconut (njc) ["Paul Castle" ] Alison Krauss/Cowboy Junkies NJC ["Tamsin Lucas" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #11 Paula Cole on Joni [Aerchak@aol.com] Joni's concert in Madison, WI, 1976 [Aerchak@aol.com] Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: DJRD cover photo ["Steve Polifka" ] RE: Funniest film lines (NJC) ["Heather" ] RE: Funniest film lines (NJC) ["Heather" ] Re: Truly, madly, deeply (NJC) [Gertus@aol.com] Bee Gee's Maurice Gibb dies at 53 NJC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Joni's concert in Madison, WI, 1976 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Funniest film lines (NJC) [vince ] Re: Funniest film lines (edited for legibility) (NJC) [vince ] Re: Funniest film lines (NJC) [colin ] Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen ["kakki" ] Re: poconut (njc) ["kakki" ] Re: Alison Krauss/Cowboy Junkies NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Alison Krauss/Cowboy Junkies NJC [Mags N Brei ] Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Article on war and the left, njc pc [sl.m@shaw.ca] Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen [hell ] Travelogue Review [hell ] Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen [Mags N Brei ] Shameless self-promotion PT 2 njc [Randy Remote ] Handclaps on 'Old Road Gone' (NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] Joni's singing rhythm on T'log [Little Bird ] Martha likes Joni [Little Bird ] Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Handclaps on 'Old Road Gone' (NJC) [Randy Remote Subject: Maurice Gibb NJC Maurice Gibb of the Bee Gees has just died. He had emergency surgery for a twisted gut and heart attack during the op. He survived this but died later in the ICU. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 03:47:40 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Lama's revenge? njc Eat your hearts out, alpacas! Ha! At http://www.jmdl.com/glossary/friendofspirit.cfm Joni says of Chvgyam Trungpa Rinpoche in an interview, >> He was the bad boy of Zen. I wrote a song about a visit I made to him called "Refuge of the Road." I consider him one of my great teachers, even though I saw him only three times. Chogyam Trungpa was the 11th Trungpa Tulku (a reincarnated lama) and what is called a "crazy wisdom" teacher from Tibet (recall that the term Crazy Wisdom is used in the song Strange Boy also on Hejira). >> Did Joni write any songs about reincarnated ALPACAS?!? I DON'T FECKING *THINK* SO!! Vindicated again. Ah. Westbound, and rolling, Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:00:36 +0100 From: "Moni Kellermann" Subject: Re: Niece? BS ALERT!, NJC > Well, I guess now that Joan has hinted around about her niece, it's okay to > tell the tale. > I'm her long-lost, older brother, James Anderson Hm, let's see: Received: from lhommedieu ([216.68.47.249]) by mta03.fuse.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030111232253.NHVB5736.mta03.fuse.net@lhommedieu>; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:22:53 -0500 From: "James Anderson" Cc: "_Me, here" Subject: Re: Niece? BS ALERT!, NJC Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:22:40 -0500 Message-ID: Nice try, Jim :)) moni ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:23:31 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: poconut (njc) Kakki wrote: >Richie Furay is a Christian minister here in SoCal now, >but I've read that he still performs music in his church >and I think he has shown up to sit in a few times with >Poco in recent years. In the Bob Harris interview, Rusty says, "Richie left the band to do 'Souther Hillman Furay' - that was a matter of David Geffen just threw so much money at him he couldn't *not* do it - we all understood, I mean I would have done it for the kind of money they were throwing at Richie - but his heart never left the band and he still comes out and plays with us and I think we'll do a project together, perhaps the next one down the line........ [and later] "Richie Furay is a minister in Colorado and so his life is his ministry - ever since I've known Richie he's always been a really kind, people person - he always cared about people and went out of his way - and he was someone people would come to when they had problems - so it's such a natural that he would evolve into a ministry, such a perfect thing for him - that's what he was meant to do." PaulC NP Follow you Dreams (Jim Messina)..."and do what you love to do" - good to be reminded sometimes. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/country/ > and click on the 'Bob Harris' link in the > top right hand 'Listen Again' section. PS This site gives a pretty good chronology of the pococommunity http://home.swipnet.se/~w-11020/Poco/bio.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:49:57 +0000 From: "Tamsin Lucas" Subject: Alison Krauss/Cowboy Junkies NJC I was wandering around HMV yesterday, looking in particular for *something* by Alison Krauss/Cowboy Junkies, since odd songs I have heard on the radio, I have liked a lot. However, not being unable to name any songs I have heard I wasn't sure which to choose - are there any Alison/Junkies fans who could advise me on good 1st CDs to buy? I did find Alanis Unplugged and Emmylou Harris' Roses in the Snow very cheaply though, so I am enjoying those right now... _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:06:56 -0000 From: "Bill Pearson" Subject: commercial music OT From: KJHSF@aol.com writes: It's frustrating when you hear a song you like on a commercial and have no way to discover the performer! Ken, a good place for UK adverts is here. http://www.commercialbreaksandbeats.co.uk/index.asp An adverts and used music listing. Bill - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.438 / Virus Database: 246 - Release Date: 07/01/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:28:04 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #11 Paula Cole on Joni I wish more artists would speak out on Joni's behalf like Paula Cole. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:52:16 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Joni's concert in Madison, WI, 1976 Bryan, Yes, it was the same tour. I didn't mention in my original post that the concert was at UW Madison. It was in some sort of fieldhouse. All the big midwestern schools have them. It was general admission. We just got there early, but not THAT early and sat right in front, like 3rd row center. Joni was spitting distance. I had a hell of a time finding out exactly when the concert was, the exact date, because it wasn't listed and the main website actually had her in Plattsburgh at the time. Anyhow I searched and searched and knew I'd seen her in Madison and was pretty certain when I was in grad school there. It was the 70s but I have a transcript and Master's to verify the date and knew I hadn't dreamed it. Plus they shot the Hejira cover there the next day or so. Another reason I just LOVE that I saw that show. Anyway it was February 29, 1976. Please tell me it was leap year that year. Otherwise maybe it never did happen. Maybe I don't have that Master's either. Maybe my whole life is a lie. Who cares? It was an awesome experience. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:55:05 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen I was perusing the Blue songbook [which I had lost many years ago, but which a fellow lister lent me recently - thanks, Janine :-) ], and I came across this oddity: In the middle of the book, where the lyrics are printed stand-alone, those for All I Want are correct. However, in the sheet music itself, the following differences appear (no doubt from an earlier version of the song) : By the light, I want to get up and jump, I want to wreck my stockings in some juke box dump replaced later by Alive, alive, I want to get up and jive, I want to wreck my stockings in some juke box dive. Do you want to take a chance And maybe find in some sweet romance with me, baby replaced later by Do you want to take on cahnce On maybe finding some sweet romance with me, baby Cause applause replaced later by Applause, applause Then we both get so unglued later replace by Then we both get so blue The greed of the unraveling later replaced by The greed is the unravelling Make you feel better later replaced by I want to make you feel better And finally ther is a wanna later replaced by a want to. Most of the above feel like typos, but the ones that are clearly not typos suggest otherwise. My guess is that both types of differences are involved, s ince there are numerous obvious typos elsewhere in the book, in both the sheet music and the lyrics only sections. Of course, in her "pnik dress BBC concert, the lyrics to All I Want were not fully formed, and went through substantial later revisions. By the way, in the sheet music section, "mantle of the moon" is printed instead of "Mattala Moon", while the lyrics section shows "Mattala of Moon". Finally, this songbook has some unusually interesting (color) photos of JM, in an overgrown area surrounding a house (where ?). In one of them (she is sitiing crosslegged, holding some fruit - oranges or tangerines - I detect bags under her eyes - part of the price of blue. Also, the print of this book is entirely in blue ink - pretty cool (only one I have ever seen that way). Unfortunately, the arrangements are pretty mediocre - I would call them poor. Bob S. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:26:37 -0600 From: "Steve Polifka" Subject: Re: DJRD cover photo Hey everyone: I just got on my computer for the first time in 3 days (love can definately conquer the desire to go online- hee hee) and read this post. I ran to my DJRD songbook, remembering there is an interesting pic of Joni as Art Nuveaux (sp?) standing by some huge flats on a truck, that have the shape of the Paprika Plains, herself as an indian beating a drum, and a dove. Les and Mags, I am sending it to you as an attachment. Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Irvin" To: Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: DJRD cover photo > At 1/10/2003 11:23 AM, Mags N Brei wrote: > >does anyone know who the kid in the tux is on the cover of DJRD? > > The JMDL Library has a story about the making of the DJRD cover. It reads... > > Joni "included the shot of a kid who'd been in a session for a previous > album. 'He was shy and had never danced before, that's why he's looking at > his feet,' she says. " > > Full story: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=566 > > Doesn't really answer your question though, does it? :-) > > Les [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DJRD pic.JPG] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:43:12 -0500 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: Funniest film lines (NJC) this has been one of my long time favorites since I was very little: Wizard of OZ - Dorothy arrives at Professor Marvels campsite. On the side of his wagon the lettering reads: PROFESSOR MARVEL - ACCLAIMED BY THE CROWNED HEADS OF EUROPE Dorothy says to Professor Marvel: "Oh, please, Professor, why can't we go with you and see all the Crowned Heads of Europe?" Professor Marvel says, "Do you know any?" Oh. you mean ..." On another note: We have watched two movies over the holidays. Rare Birds with William Hurt - a delightful, quirky, funny film and Home for the Holidays directed by Jody Foster and staring Holly Hunter, Robert Downing Jr and Anne Bancroft. Reminded me so much of my family gatherings! I recommend both. Heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Wally Kairuz Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:11 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Funniest film lines (NJC) this one is so stupid and so indelicate but it kills me: the waitress in porky's paging mike hunt in the crowded bar: "does anybody know mike hunt? where is mike hunt? have you seen mike hunt?" cloris leachman in young frankestein screaming, " YES! YES! SAY IT! he was my ... BOYFRIEND!!!" and then there was one that colin once posted about an old english lady saying, "when people see my lovely little pussy they just have to smile" or something like that. what was it colin? wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:47:14 -0500 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: Funniest film lines (NJC) Oh yes ... and from Mel's movie High Anxiety: "Those who are late do not get fruitcup" The entire movie is a hoot! Heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of FMYFL@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:42 PM To: SCJoniGuy@aol.com; AzeemAK@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Funniest film lines (NJC) In a message dated 1/11/03 3:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > Them's my two for now, and that leaves out Mel Brooks movies. Bob, you can't leave out Mel Brooks movies. There are soooooo many, and "Young Frankenstein" is one of my all time favorites. I just love the scene where Madeline Kahn sleeps with the monster for the first time. She says to Peter Boyle, "So tell me, is everything about you oversized????.......then starts singing "OOOOOHHHHH sweet mystery of life at last I've found you" There's a zillion more good lines from that movie, but I got to run. "Taffeta Darling"........."No Tongues" :P Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:21:53 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Truly, madly, deeply (NJC) In a message dated 12/01/2003 06:15:54 GMT Standard Time Azeem writes: > Hmmm, not sure I'd rate it that highly Jacky, mainly for the hopping scene, > which I REALLY didn't like! Still, Juliet Stevenson and Alan Rickman are > always very watchable - and Juliet gives good cry, doesn't she?? > Hey Azeem, The hopping scene is one of my favourites! It's wonderful and always brings a smile to my face. I just love the Michael Maloney character for the way he lightens up the whole thing, but no accounting for taste, I guess. Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:24:24 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Bee Gee's Maurice Gibb dies at 53 NJC So sad, and so young. Rest in Peace Maurice news story here... http://www.msnbc.com/news/857640.asp?0cv=CB10 ~rosie in nj Better ask questions before you shoot Deceit and betrayal's bitter fruit It's hard to swallow, come time to pay. That taste on your tongue don't easily slip away Let Kingdom come. I'm gonna find my way Through this lonesome day ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:30:02 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's concert in Madison, WI, 1976 In a message dated 1/12/2003 10:53:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, Aerchak@aol.com writes: > It was an awesome > experience. > The '76 concerts WERE quite awesome, at least the couple that I've heard. She seemed to really be doing some risk-taking, doing "Jungle Line" live, previewing a couple of new songs, and a new arrangement of S&L, and in the case of her show in Philly singing "Yarrow", an Irish folk song, acapella. Very cool stuff. Bob NP: Steve Earle, "Ashes to ashes" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:48:15 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: Funniest film lines (NJC) From About Last Night, by david Mamet [Joan, a kindergarten teacher, is reading a Christmas story] Joan : And then an angel of the lord decended upon the virgin Mary... Kid: What's a virgin? Joan : A virgin is someone who has never had sex. Kid: What's sex? Joan : Uh sex, uh sex is how men and women make babies. Kid: Are you a virgin? Joan : No. Kid: So you have a baby? Joan : Uhm, no, men and women who don't want babies also have sex. Kid: What for? Joan : For about ten or fifteen minutes. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:56:32 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: Funniest film lines (edited for legibility) (NJC) vince wrote: > From About Last Night, by David Mamet > > >[Joan, a kindergarten teacher, is reading a Christmas story] >Joan And then an angel of the lord decended upon the virgin Mary... >Kid: What's a virgin? >Joan : A virgin is someone who has never had sex. >Kid: What's sex? >Joan : Uh sex, uh sex is how men and women make babies. >Kid: Are you a virgin? >Joan : No. >Kid: So you have a baby? >Joan : Uhm, no, men and women who don't want babies also have sex. >Kid: What for? >Joan : For about ten or fifteen minutes. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:03:28 -0500 From: vince Subject: njc funniest movie lines From the movie The Opposite of Sex, which is about as funny as they come Lucia: You're probably a blessing in disguise. Fucking good disguise. Dedee: I'd like a Long Island iced tea, please. Bill Truitt: Is that a good idea, for the baby? Dedee: Oh, please. This baby owes its life to Long Island iced teas, if you know what I mean. Jason Bock: If I save one kid from getting butt-fucked, from having his ass totally reamed until it looks like the Lincoln Tunnel and he can't stand up for three weeks, then maybe all of this is worth... something. Teachers everywhere have to learn that no means no... at least until we've dropped out. [About marrying Matt.] Dedee: I just don't think it's something we should rush into. Lucia: Oh, no, no. But bring another human life onto the planet -- that's whim time. Randy: I'm just askin' that you stand by your man, like I'm standin' next to you! You know, a lot of guys, man, they woulda said that, "Shucks, man, she took up with them homosexuals. You know, she turned her back on righteousness." Dedee: Oh, yeah, but blowing you in the backseat of your car every day after band, that was a stairway to heaven, right? Girl Student: This is America, and we're Christians here -- aside from a few Jewish people who were just born that way -- and I can tell you one thing: Jesus Christ and his apostles were certainly not into "man-on-man action," which is how they describe it on their porno videos, which, I am proud to say, Blockbuster does not carry. Um, I work there and it's very family... [pause] Girl Student: Plus, that religion John Travolta belongs to. Bill Truitt: He made his bed, he can lie in it. Lucia: If there's room. Lucia: Why did he grow that beard? And his posture! He looks like Early Man. Lucia: Matt, this is not your baby, OK? It's some other idiot's baby, probably with an eighth grade education and a trunk full of Waco pamphlets. Lucia: Vagina, vagina, vagina. Does that word do anything for you? Bill Truitt: I don't think it does much for anyone, gay or straight. Dedee: I don't have a heart of gold and I don't grow one later, OK? But relax. There's other people a lot nicer coming up -- we call them losers. Dedee: God. How does a woman get so bitter? Lucia: Observation. [Dedee in labor.] Lucia: Are you having contractions? Dedee: No, this is my sleepy face! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK?! Dedee Truitt: Lucia and Carl had their baby. You can imagine the pick of that litter. It was the kind of kid that if you played with it too much after a feeding, you threw up. Dedee: My mother was the kind of mother who always said she was her daughter's best friend. Whenever she did, I thought, "Great, not only do I have a shitty mother, but my best friend's a loser bitch." Lucia: You've got a death wish. That's so selfish. I have one too, but I direct it toward others. [Refusing heterosexual sex with Dedee.] Matt Mateo: I've never tried communism, but I know I wouldn't like that. It's the same thing. Or grits. [Why sex is the opposite of what she wants.] Dedee: Sex always ends in kids or disease or like, you know, relationships. Sheriff Carl Tippett: What's the point of sleeping with you if it doesn't get your attention? Sheriff Carl Tippett: Say the point of sex isn't recreation or procreation or any of that stuff. Say it's concentration. Say it's supposed to focus your attention on the person you're sleeping with, like biological highlighter. Otherwise, there's just too many people in the world. Matt Mateo: I'm bisexual. Lucia: Puh-lease! I went to a bar mitzvah once. That doesn't make me Jewish. Dedee Truitt: [narrating] Rule one of sex: a person can do anything for ten minutes if they don't breath in. Lucia: I don't know how you do it. You're always so nice and so calm. Tom was like that too. It's depressing. Bill Truitt: You're nice. Lucia: That's how I always felt around you too, like the Baroness in The Sound of Music. While everybody's just singing and climbing an Alp. And I just wanna STUFF THAT GUITAR UP THAT NUN'S ASS! And... ugh! [Pulling on Jason's nipple ring to get information about where Dedee and Matt are] Jason Bock: Ow, that's pierced! Ow!! Bill Truitt: Listen to me, you little grunge faggot. I survived my family, my schoolyard, every Republican, every other Democrat, Anita Bryant, the Pope, the fucking Christian Coalition, not to mention a real son of a bitch of a virus, in case you haven't noticed, and in all that time since Paul Lynde and Truman Capote were the only fairies in America, I've been busting my ass so that you'd be able to do what you wanted with yours! So I don't just want your obedience right now, which I do want and plenty of it, but I want your fucking gratitude, and I want it right fucking now, or you're going to be looking down a long road at your nipple in the dirt! Do you hear what I'm saying?! Jason Bock: Yes!! Bill Truitt: Take me to them! Jason Bock: OK, OK, just let me go! [Bill lets go] Jason Bock: Ow, ow! You're supposed to be my brother, man! Bill Truitt: Hey, I was brotherly, man. Think where else you're pierced. Let's go. [Narrating at the beginning of the movie] Dedee Truitt: My name is Dedee Truitt. I'm sixteen, and this is Creve Coeur, Louisiana...which is French, I think, for like, 'fucked heart'. Dedee Truitt: I know in movies you kind of feel sorry for girls like this, but in real life, you wouldn't be sitting next to her either. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:24:10 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Funniest film lines (NJC) Heather wrote: >Oh yes ... and from Mel's movie High Anxiety: > >"Those who are late do not get fruitcup" > >The entire movie is a hoot! > >Heather > > > Yes i loved the sign on the gates to The Institute For The Very Very Nervous. It said: KEEP IN. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:17:01 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen Bob S. wrote: > Finally, this songbook has some unusually interesting (color) photos of JM, > in an overgrown area surrounding a house (where ?). I think it is Laurel Canyon and that may be her green house there in the first photo. Probably were taken in the winter or early spring since that's the only time of the year the L.A. terrain looks so verdant ;-) Henry Diltz has taken almost identical photos of Joni with her dulcimer in the same setting. His photos have appeared in other books. Diltz said they they were shot behind some of the houses in Laurel Canyon. >Unfortunately, the arrangements are pretty mediocre - I would call them poor. I got the songbook right after the album was released and always thought that the discrepancies might have happened because it may have been a "rush job." Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:08:19 -0500 From: "Jim Leonard" Subject: Re: poconut (njc) Kakki wrote: > Richie Furay is a Christian minister here in SoCal now, but I've read that he still performs music in his church and I think he has shown up to sit in a few times with Poco in recent years. > Minor correction, Kakki ... Richie is the pastor of the Calvary Chapel in Boulder, CO, and has been for 20 years or so now. This link will take you to Richie's self-penned story of how he came to be "born again," in which Al Perkins - the pedal steel player for the Souther, Hillman & Furay Band (and Stephen Stills' Manassas) - is a central figure. The story touches on Richie's frustrations with Poco's lack of commercial success, and on his one-time drive to be a "rock and roll star," which almost destroyed his still-successful marriage. http://calvarychapel.com/boulder/RICHIE.htm Yes, Richie does still perform, and he sits in with Poco on occasion. His voice and range are as strong as ever. Somehow, the man has managed to stop the clock in that regard. There is still talk of a Buffalo Springfield reunion with Neil Young and the reinvigorated Stephen Stills, and Richie is definitely up for it. There have even been a few loose rehearsals over the past couple of years. As a longtime fan, I highly recommend Richie's 1998 album "In My Father's House," which is like listening to a classic Poco album - albeit with overtly Christian lyrics. Rusty Young contributes his unmistakable pedal steel to the project. Also, Richie's three post-SHF Band solo albums for Asylum Records ("I Have A Reason," "Dance A Little Light," and "I Still Have Dreams") will all be issued for the first time on CD on January 21st. I'll be there. :-) Best, (Boston) Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:32:12 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: poconut (njc) Yes, thanks for the clarification, James and Paul. My aging memory gets mixed up sometimes these days. He was a guest minister at a Calvary Chapel out here a few years ago and I recall some people from the CSN list writing about people going to the service to hear him play music. Probably some wishful thinking on my part that he had relocated from Colorado ;-) Thanks for the link. > Yes, Richie does still perform, and he sits in with Poco on occasion. His > voice and range are as strong as ever. Somehow, the man has managed to stop > the clock in that regard. There is still talk of a Buffalo Springfield > reunion with Neil Young and the reinvigorated Stephen Stills, and Richie is > definitely up for it. There have even been a few loose rehearsals over the > past couple of years. Oh how I wish they would stop talking and do it! Richie never got as much recognition as the other guys over the years (maybe stemming from his own humility?) but when I look back on all my fave Buffalo Springfield and Poco songs, most of them were written by him. What an incredible talent. I'm so glad he still wants to play. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:16:20 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Alison Krauss/Cowboy Junkies NJC --- Tamsin Lucas wrote: > I was wandering around HMV yesterday, looking in > particular for *something* > by Alison Krauss/Cowboy Junkies, since odd songs I > have heard on the radio, > I have liked a lot. > However, not being unable to name any songs I have > heard I wasn't sure which > to choose - are there any Alison/Junkies fans who > could advise me on good > 1st CDs to buy? You could never go wrong with CJs' "Trinity Sessions." I don't think they've ever made anything that ISN'T worth it though. My least favourite is probably "Whites Off Earth Now" but that's not because it's bad - - it just isn't (IMO) as good as some of their others. I don't have a lot of Alison Kraus, but I enjoy pretty much anything she does. One I do have is "So long, so wrong", which is really very good. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:50:41 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: RE religion with humour lesssons for us all NJC Newbie Lucy said: <> Welcome to the JMDL, Lucy! I have to say, as most of you know, I don't get into the political or religious discussions here, but the thought of this: <> ...and the above quote made me smile so much. Oh, what I would give to have all our world leaders have a nice leisurely cup of tea before making *any* decision. {sigh} Thanks, Lucy for the pleasant thought today! Hugs, Ashara P.S. Hi Dolores! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:07:51 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: 1976 concerts I can't believe I missed these shows; the Philly one would have easily within my reach. My mother died in 1976 and I can only guess that I was completely preoccupied that year. Damn! At 01:30 PM 1/12/03 -0500, you wrote: >The '76 concerts WERE quite awesome, at least the couple that I've heard. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:37:05 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen In a message dated 1/12/2003 4:01:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@vzavenue.net writes: > I got the songbook right after the album was released and always thought > that the discrepancies might have happened because it may have been a "rush > job." > I think that's surely the case, Kakki...if the record company was rushing to get the music out to market, it makes sense that the corresponding music book was thrown together with haste as well. For those who don't know the story about Blue & the early release, it's well-documented (with a pic of the original songlisting) at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/AlternateBlue.html Bob NP: Linkin Park, "Points Of Authority" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:49:04 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Article on war and the left, njc pc >Left Should Support War, Independent > >The Independent (UK) >January 10, 2003 >Forget the UN: Saddam Hussein is the best possible reason for liberating >Iraq; If Britain were governed by such a man, I might be prepared to risk my >own life to end my country's living death >By Johann Hari > >Why do we need evidence of a stash of anthrax or sarin to convince us that >Saddam, the gasser of the Kurds and butcher of Baghdad, should be >overthrown? Hans Blix and his UN inspection team issued an interim report in >New York yesterday. > >They have found no weapons of mass destruction (WMD), so war, it seems, will >not come this month. Why does this make so many of us on the left relax? >What has become of the left which argued that we had a moral responsibility >to defend our fellow humans from fascist dictators? By taking the route of >hunting for WMD, and only accepting the overthrow of Saddam on those >grounds, we have made a crucial mistake. The greatest possible evidence for >this is that, while some in the West celebrate today, the Iraqi people will >be weeping. > >Who, you may be asking incredulously, would want their country to be bombed? >What would make people want to risk their children being blown to pieces? I >wondered this too until, last October, I spent a month as a journalist >seeing the reality of life under Saddam Hussein. Strangely, it's the small >details which remain in the memory, even now, three months later. It's the >pale, sickly look that would come over people's faces when I mentioned >Saddam. It's the fact that the Marsh Arabs - a proud, independent people who >have seen their marshes drained and been "relocated" to tiny desert shacks - >are forced to hang a small, menacing picture of Saddam in their new "homes". >It's the child wearing a T-shirt saying "Yes, yes, yes to Daddy Saddam". > >If Britain were governed by such a man, I would welcome friendly bombs - a >concept I once thought absurd. I might be prepared to risk my own life to >bring my country's living death to an end. Most of the Iraqi people I >encountered clearly felt the same. The moment they established that I was >British, people would hug me and offer coded support (they would be even >more effusive towards the Americans I travelled with). They would explain >how much they "admire Britain - British democracy, yes? You understand?" > >This evidence is, admittedly, anecdotal, and I would be wary of supporting a >war based simply on these impressions. But now there is concrete evidence. >The International Crisis Group (ICG), a Brussels-based independent >think-tank, by no means pro-war, conducted extensive interviews with people >in Iraq last autumn, and, as their report explains, "a significant number of >those Iraqis interviewed, with surprising candour, expressed their view >that, if [regime change] required an American-led attack, they would support >it. The notion of leaving the country's destiny in the hands of an >omnipotent foreign party has more appeal than might be expected - and the >desire for a long-term US involvement is higher than expected." > >There are important conditions, however, attached to Iraqis' support for the >war. They expect it to be quick - one person I spoke to said that "the few >soldiers who fight for him will be defeated in a weekend" - as happened in >1991. The extremely unlikely scenario of a protracted, Vietnam-style >conflict would almost certainly lead to a change in their attitudes. > >And, crucially, the Iraqi people expect the Americans to help to rebuild >their country after the war. This, surely, is what we should be marching in >the streets for - not to oppose a war that will remove one of the world's >worst dictators, but to secure a guarantee from Blair and Bush that after >the conflict we will stay and help its people to build a peaceful, federal, >democratic Iraq. Those who scorn this possibility, either with the racist >notion that Arabs are incapable of democracy or with a fashionable cynicism >about political progress, should remember that their sneers could equally >have been directed towards post-Second World War Japan and Germany. > >The Japanese had no history of democracy or freedom, and the Germans had >only the memories of the disastrous Weimar Republic, but American >occupations oversaw their transformations into successful democracies. We >must campaign, then, to make sure that Iraq becomes a Japan or Germany and >not an Afghanistan, bombed and then starved of the funds it needs to >establish stability and basic human rights for its people. There is more >hope for Iraq because its people are highly educated, it has a developed >infrastructure, and because it would be morally obscene if the profits from >Iraq's vast oil reserves did not go towards rebuilding the country. > >It is time that, in light of the ICG report, we in the West admit that we >have misunderstood the Iraqi people's position. We have been acting as >though an attack on Saddam would be the beginning of another hideous ordeal >for the population, the interruption of an otherwise peaceful situation. In >fact, as the ICG report explains, "for the Iraqi people, who since 1980 have >lived through a devastating conflict with Iran, Desert Storm, sanctions, >international isolation and periodic US-UK aerial attacks, a state of war >has existed for two decades already". Do not imagine that if we fail to act, >the Iraqi people will be left in peace - quite the opposite. We can act to >shorten their suffering. > >Nor can we criticise this war, as figures such as Tariq Ali have, as an >"imperial adventure". The Iraqi people are already living under imperial >occupation. The 80 per cent of the population who are Shia Muslims live >under the imperialistic rule of the minority Sunni clique with whom they >feel no common identity. You might be thinking that if they are all Iraqi, >it is not foreign occupation; if so you are misunderstanding the nature of >Iraq. This is an artificial state created by Europeans in 1921 at the end of >the Ottoman Empire, comprising many divergent groups (Kurds, Shia, Sunni, >Christian, Jews and more). We have no reason to believe that they now have a >collective national identity, so to be ruled by a Sunni is indeed akin to >being under foreign occupation. Would you rather be ruled indefinitely by a >totalitarian imperial ruler who will cling to power down to the last bunker, >or a temporary American imperial ruler which might offer a democratic and >stable future? > >If your hatred of Dubya overwhelms your hatred of Saddam, then I >sympathise - that is the reason why I too once viewed this war with dread >and contempt - but I strongly suspect that if you were confronted with the >reality of Saddam's Iraq, you would change your mind. Of course, forming an >alliance with George Bush is an unpleasant experience, but we formed an >alliance with Stalin to defeat Hitler. It is also possible that Bush, like >his father, will betray the hopes of the people of Iraq - and we must >campaign to prevent this. > >We do not need Bush's dangerous arguments about "pre-emptive action" to >justify this war. Nor do we need to have the smoking gun of WMD. All we need >are the humanitarian arguments we used during the Kosovo conflict to remove >the monstrous Slobodan Milosevic - and this time, we can act in the certain >(rather than probable) knowledge that the people being tyrannised will be >cheering us on. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:50:01 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen In a message dated 1/12/03 6:38:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > For those who don't know the story about Blue & the early release, it's > well-documented (with a pic of the original songlisting) at: > > http://www.jonimitchell.com/AlternateBlue.html > I don't think I've ever heard the song "Hunter" (The Good Samaritan) Does anyone have the Alternate Blue? ~rose Better ask questions before you shoot Deceit and betrayal's bitter fruit It's hard to swallow, come time to pay. That taste on your tongue don't easily slip away Let Kingdom come. I'm gonna find my way Through this lonesome day ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:03:04 -0800 (PST) From: hell Subject: Re: Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen Rose wrote: > I don't think I've ever heard the song "Hunter" (The Good Samaritan) > Does anyone have the Alternate Blue? I have it, but I'm sure lots of people a lot closer than me have it as well. Also, Alison performed it at Jonifest 2001, if you have those CDs. Speaking of Jonifest CDs, I'm slowly working my way through the 2002 set, kindly given to me for Xmas by my "branch" (that's a new name for it.....) and it's great reliving everyone's sets. And I get to hear Gregg since we weren't there on the Thursday night! Hell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:05:48 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen In a message dated 1/12/03 8:02:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, hell@ihug.co.nz writes: > I have it, but I'm sure lots of people a lot closer than me have it as well. > Also, Alison performed it at Jonifest 2001, if you have those CDs. > Oh shit, yes I do! I'll have to give it another listen. Thanks Hell. Is Willy there yet? rosie in nj Better ask questions before you shoot Deceit and betrayal's bitter fruit It's hard to swallow, come time to pay. That taste on your tongue don't easily slip away Let Kingdom come. I'm gonna find my way Through this lonesome day ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 01:22:10 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: poconut (njc) Jim L wrote: > Yes, Richie does still perform, and he sits in with Poco on occasion. His > voice and range are as strong as ever. Somehow, the man has managed to stop > the clock in that regard. There is still talk of a Buffalo Springfield > reunion with Neil Young and the reinvigorated Stephen Stills, and Richie is > definitely up for it. There have even been a few loose rehearsals over the > past couple of years. I wondered as much when Rusty mentioned the next project down the line (thought I could detect a nudge nudge wink wink) When Bob Harris asked him if they had any plans to tour the new Poco album in the UK, he said, "Why? Have you got a spare room?" Kakki wrote: (re Buffalo Springfield) > Oh how I wish they would stop talking and do it! Yeah! And I'll get 'em a gig down the local palais PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:46:03 -0800 (PST) From: hell Subject: Travelogue Review Finally Travelogue reaches NZ! This review was actually published on December 26th (but I was lounging on the beach at the time....) Joni Mitchell: Travelogue 26.12.2002 By GRAHAM REID (Herald rating: * * * ) Mitchell, 59, recently suggested she may retire, which may account for this somewhat self-aggrandising double album in which she revisits her back catalogue with a 70-piece orchestra, 20-voice choir and guest pianist Herbie Hancock, saxophonist Wayne Shorter and flugelhorn player Kenny Wheeler. While there are some excellent revisions here (Be Cool, Hejira, God Must Be a Boogie Man) there's also an over-ripe, sentiment-tugging, emotion-milking quality about some (Love, Slouching Towards Bethlehem) and it's notable on a lavishly presented album with Bush/bin Laden paintings she has picked some songs which resonate post-September 11 (Otis and Marlena with the line "while Muslims stick up Washington" is the opener). The formerly light and spry Woodstock is here sunk by the weight of its self-important delivery and dark strings. Mitchell never lacked ambition, but judicious pruning might have made for a more consistent collection. Label: Nonesuch ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:44:49 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > > http://www.jonimitchell.com/AlternateBlue.html > <<>> hey Rosie...Alison did a fantastic job of performing Hunter at Joni Fest two years ago in the church. Err....where were you ;-) Mags, who does own a copy of Alternate Blue...and loves it. You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:01:11 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: MARY GAUTHIER (NJC) I am not, but maybe I can hear some next Thursday say??? Paz on 1/10/03 7:56 AM, Steve Dulson at steve@psitech.com wrote: > Jerry wrote: > >> excited about seeing MARY GAUTHIER tonight. Pazman, do you know her? > > I don't know if Paz does, but I do! Michele and I have seen her at > two Folk Alliances - she is terrific! A real original. I wish she > would play down here. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:56:53 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Shameless self-promotion PT 2 njc I'm stoked--my CD is now in every record store in Menocino and Humboldt counties (Calif)-even Sam Goody's in the Bayside mall--and I'm getting played on at least 3 radio stations. The DJ on Ukiah's KWNE "loved" the CD. I've been busy driving to all the stores, and getting my website in shape. Anyway, my website is up, my CD is available through CD street.com (musicians, if you are selling CD's, and if you don't know about CDstreet, ask me about them, they are great). I will be on CD Baby and Amazon soon, too. I'm not gonna bore y'all about this again, but, had to do it once, anyway.... If you would like to be on my mailing list for news about my CD and places I am playing, hit reply, and say 'subscribe'. Song samples, 'free download of the month', lots of cool pics, personal rants and news, go to: www.corryhanna.com btw ironically my CD is called Corry Hanna "Old Road Gone", and the night before my CD release party on New Years, Highway 101 washed out with a massive mudslide, stranding my opening act, Anna Banana, to the north. I did an impromptu solo set, one of the songs I did was "The Priest" from LOTC which I do in drop-D tuning, which was well received by the audience. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:22:57 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Handclaps on 'Old Road Gone' (NJC) > www.corryhanna.com Pleased to see you let old Randy Remote play on your album, Corry. I hear he has some of the best claps in the business. Hey! Best of luck mate PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:33:44 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Joni's singing rhythm on T'log I was listening to Travelogue this afternoon, for the first time in a few weeks, and was struck by some interesting rhythms in Joni's singing on certain lines of some songs. I love how she sings, "In the church they light the candles" on Hejira and "Slippers are shufflin' into folding chairs" on Otis and Marlena. I assume that with the bigger orchestra that she needs to be a bit more careful about fitting the lines into the rhythm of the music, which is why it sounds a bit more fluid and modulated than her usual singing rhythms. I also love it on Otis and Marlena when she sings, "Otis ... empties out the trunk," with the pause punctuated by that little burst of strings. Travelogue is a time-consuming album to listen to and I've been busy, which is why I haven't been particularly able to sit down and digest it all. But little subtleties are starting to make themselves known. I love it. As for artists sticking up for Joni I heard an interview with Natalie Merchant a few years ago who cited Joni as someone who is creating new roles for female pop musicians as they age, saying she is one of the few artists who is composing music about the processes of age and life. So, Joni's tactics are not going unnoticed by all. - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:36:38 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Martha likes Joni Browsing through last September's issue of Martha Stewart Living I came upon an article called "New Spins on Old Standards" with a list of some of Martha Stewart's favourite "big-band" records done by current artists. I was shocked and amazed to see "Both Sides Now" listed as one of the top three. It had a little blurb about how great it was. I guess Both Sides Now is a "good thing." - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:42:01 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: All I Want, et al, and a printed mondegreen In a message dated 1/12/2003 7:50:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, RoseMJoy writes: > I don't think I've ever heard the song "Hunter" (The Good Samaritan) > Does anyone have the Alternate Blue? > Sure, and...there's a nice live version of Hunter on the Joni-James Taylor concert as well. Rosie - surely you have the Hissing Demos - the studio version of Hunter should be a bonus track on that as well. Bob NP: Joni, "Circle Game" live '67 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:45:58 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Handclaps on 'Old Road Gone' (NJC) Paul Castle wrote: > > www.corryhanna.com > > Pleased to see you let old Randy Remote > play on your album, Corry. > > I hear he has some of the best claps > in the business. and it only took him about 60 takes to get it! > > > Hey! Best of luck mate > Thanks, Paul > > PaulC ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #25 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)