From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #595 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, December 31 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 595 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Disappointment NJC [colin ] Re: birthday wishes [colin ] Re: birthday wishesNJC [colin ] Re: Disappointment NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: birthday wishes njc [Catherine McKay ] re Jaco NJC ["Paul Headon" ] Re: Album of the year? Now Phoebe njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Counting Crows BYT audio & video [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] philippine state of affairs NJC [] Pictures of Miles Davis, anyone? njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: birthday wishes njc [colin ] Vietnam & the draft (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] When Jaco met Joni ["Paul Castle" ] Re: philippine state of affairs NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] moo Michael (njc) but animal content... [anne@sandstrom.com] licensing ["Kate Bennett" ] How do you cope and let go? njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Time magazine ad for travelogue ["Kate Bennett" ] birthdays njc ["Kate Bennett" ] How do you cope and let go? njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: How do you cope and let go? njc [colin ] NJC [colin ] Harvey Milk NJC [colin ] Re: How do you cope and let go? njc [Catherine McKay ] Christina Wheeler - Pork Pie Hat [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: birthday wishes njc [colin ] Re: Harvey Milk NJC [colin ] Re: Harvey Milk NJC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Harvey Milk NJC ["RSM" ] Re: Time Ad [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: Disappointment NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: moo Michael (njc) but animal content... [Michael Paz ] Re: birthday wishes njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: birthday wishes njc [colin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:46:54 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Disappointment NJC aren't those ads crazy? who would believe them? Take a pill and you dick will grow another 3 ins. Yes right. Take a pill and you will lose 100lbs whilst still stuffing your face. I'll belive that one. RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: >Thanks for the chuckle, U guys are a hoot! Sick bastids. btw, I keep getting >enhance the size of your penis emails, and I don't have a dick! oops, sorry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:48:46 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: birthday wishes well happy Birthday Andrew. It is true-sort of. You tend not to feel different. It's just the outside that chnges. best not look in the mirror really. I just don't know how this 15 year old ended up wuiht a 44 year old reflection. Must be the drugs...... Little Bird wrote: >Well, I just turned 26 on the 27th. It feels no >different and I've been told the older you get the >younger you feel! > >Andrew (Waiting to be pounced on by boom-boom baby >boomers) > > >--- colin wrote: > > >>>wallyK, now 42 >>> >>> >>> >>you bastard! you ahev 2 years on me. I thought you >>wqetre the OLDER one! >> >> >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:11:41 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: birthday wishesNJC >Andrew (Waiting to be pounced on by boom-boom baby >boomers) > still waiting at 26? you poor thing..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 06:59:46 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Disappointment NJC --- colin wrote: > aren't those ads crazy? who would believe them? Take > a pill and you dick > will grow another 3 ins. Yes right. Take a pill and > you will lose 100lbs > whilst still stuffing your face. I'll belive that > one. > Best of all - you don't even have to ask your doctor! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 07:04:09 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: birthday wishes njc --- colin wrote: > well happy Birthday Andrew. > > It is true-sort of. You tend not to feel different. > It's just the > outside that chnges. best not look in the mirror > really. > > I just don't know how this 15 year old ended up > wuiht a 44 year old > reflection. Must be the drugs...... > I'm going to be 50 this year - well, next year, really (is it STILL 2002? Don't you find the week between Christmas and New Year's takes forever?) I'm still immature and sometimes I can't believe the hag in the mirror is me. Somehow my parents always seemed mature. I don't know if it was the clothes or the hairstyles, or whether they just did a really good job of fooling people. Happy belated B'day Andrew and, for that matter, anyone else I may have missed. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:20:53 -0000 From: "Paul Headon" Subject: re Jaco NJC Hi, I am a manic depressive on lithium and sympathise with Colin greatly the hospital system in the UK lacks empathy big time. I have spent many lonely weeks in Psychiatric wards :( Catherine in Toronto wrote >by taking care of their bodies, eating properly, getting enough sleep >and so on, are in a better position to deal with it without medication. I agree and it can also help to do all of these things with Medication :). I started an exercise regime for my insulin-dependent Diabetes recently and my mental, health has improved tremendously. So Colin we have a horrible illness . Exercise has worked for me perhaps, just perhaps, it might help you. Best Wishes, Paul Headon Wales np "Maria" Blondie - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 25/12/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:02:34 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Album of the year? Now Phoebe njc I should have guessed that you would be a Phoebe phan, Joseph! :~) Hey, if you have a moment catch me up with what's happening in the Phillipines. I read in this morning's paper about the current President not running for re-election because of political strife and am curious to hear what's going on from someone I can trust. Bob NP: The Cure, "Faith" (PS to Rose: Under no circumstances should you be listening to Cure records now!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:08:00 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Counting Crows BYT audio & video http://www.countingcrows.com/audiovideo/bytindex.html (This is the version featuring Vanessa Carlton used in the Hugh Grant/Sandra Bullock film "Two Weeks Notice") Bob NP: The Cure, "Primary" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:55:18 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: philippine state of affairs NJC > Hey, if you have a moment catch me up with what's happening in the > Phillipines. I read in this morning's paper about the current > President not running for re-election because of political strife and > am curious to hear what's going on from someone I can trust. Bob: Thanks for the trust. Now, can you trust me if I tell you that the Philippines is spelled with two "P" and only one "L"? Most people (non-Filipinos) usually make that mistake. In the university I am applying for my PhD in the US, they too, even misspelled Philippines, so you are forgiven, Mr. Muller. ;) Gloria Macapagal Arroyo is not yet into her third and final year as President and already she is campaigning for the 2004 presidential election! But then so are the other candidates! And so to answer your question if she is running for president in 2004: YES! Her popularity has gone down considerably in the latest survey polls and you can almost feel the high anomie level in the metropolis. She is most unpopular in the sector she thrived in: the academe and the business sector. She used to teach economics in the University when I was an undergrad and I took a course under her in Macroeconomics one summer. She is very competent as a teacher and you get the feeling that she knows the internal workings of topics like consumption function and the marginal propensities to consume more than anyone. So, when she became Vice President to deposed president Joseph "Erap" Estrada, it was seen as the marriage of populist politics (Erap) and academic integrity (Gloria). Both failed miserably. Erap was ousted from his office by the members of the upper middle class who are a bit nervous of Erap's pro-poor policies. They did this by focusing on his alleged shady dealings with the Chinese tycoons, his extra marital affairs, his inept ways of governance, his unprofessionalism, his lack of "proper" education, etc. The masses were always on Erap's side but the middle class and the rich who are ultimately more powerful and has control over mass media ousted him January 2001. In came Vice-President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo as President. Here is a woman who has a track record in managing a country in economic tatters. And a woman who is a daughter of former President Diosdado Macapagal. And she too, failed. She reneged on her promise to the Filipinos to rid the government of its inherent and institutionalized graft and corruption. The economy was not better even if the president is an economist (not that economists can be relied upon necessarily to do troubleshooting jobs in making ailing economies recover but there were a lot of misguided hopes that she, being a woman with education, is better at managing a country with more than 100 dialects and 7,000 islands than the former actor Joseph Estrada who only finished grade school but who belongs to a rich clan). Equally sad is her staunch belief that the Philippines need to strengthen its military capabilities by inviting Americans to teach us how to manage our own affairs. And we thought Mark Twain and Mt. Pinatubo were quite successful cases in point in making us realize that we don't need external assistance from developed economies. After more than a year as president, people only remembered the photo-ops she did (most famous was her pose with the members of her Cabinet a la "Men in Black"), her dog-like support for George Bush and her mandate to cut state subsidy for education, health and social welfare while retaining the budget allotted for military operations. To a certain degree I admire her steadfast determination to quell terrorism with an admirable authoritarianism similar to Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew, but I don't think she realizes that much of the roots of insurgency, banditry and kidnapping in Mindanao can all be traced in the very government she is heading. She alienated a lot of people, most notably her vice president Tito Guingona because of her pro-US stance. Guingona's brand of nationalism is quite different from Gloria's. He is for the respect of the dignity of the Filipino people (he harks back to the time of great Filipino statesmen like Lorenzo Tanada, Claro M. Recto and Jose Diokno). Gloria's sense of nationalism is not necessarily less patriotic just because she takes the more unpopular side, but she should learn to listen to people more and not just devote time having pictures of herself planting rice with the indigenous peoples of Banawe, playing golf with a major foreign inesvtor, dancing in a fiesta carnival in one rural town, or attend funerals of high profile people. She should be careful not to make herself another dictator like Ferdinand Marcos and declare Martial Law. She alienated her former education secretary Raul Roco. Now, Roco is consistently topping "who is your choice for president in 2004?" surveys. This guy has a good track record as senator, but who knows what good people do when they are given powers by the people? In today's paper, Linggoy Alcuaz, a member of the elite, once again launched his ultra-effective "punctuation" ammunition. Its the question mark (?) punctuation he is making popular nowadays. He was instrumental in making people rebel against Estrada by urging people to show their disgust by flashing an exclamation point (!) everywhere they go. Now, Alcuaz, who helped Gloria became president after the bloodless revolution that ousted Estrada January 2001, is launching "?" to question Gloria's competence as a leader. If this will become effective, many people might start regarding Gloria more critically than ever and may lead to small protest rallies that threaten to be of EDSA-like proportions when fully harnessed. Meanwhile the other "presidentiables" also a venomous lot, are ready for a kill. Whoever wrests power away from Gloria first becomes President. Right now we don't have massive demonstrations similar to that in 1983 when Benigno Aquino was assassinated and his widow Cory Aquino became president, nor do we have rallies similar to that in the January 2001 ouster of Estrada, but next year is particularly interesting to watch. As I am preparing my doctoral application in the US, I cant help but feel that at least for the next 4-5 years I will not be worrying about my country on a day-to-day basis (that is if I do get admittted in this very competitive field I want to enter). Personally, I dont think Gloria will win, but despite the mostly negative things I ascribe to her (or to any president who happens to be there) I still feel that given time, her type of governance may be one of the best in recent decades. I have a feeling, too that she will best be remembered when she is no longer there as president. Joseph in Manila ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:02:16 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Pictures of Miles Davis, anyone? njc http://www.fortunecity.de/kraftwerk/manowar/705/Miles-Galerie/Milesthumbs.ht m On my Olympus-camera-owners' list members got some pictures about a year before Miles passed. Lama np: Newly-remastered Joni and James concert on CD-R. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:27:37 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: re Jaco NJC >So Colin we have a horrible illness . Exercise has worked for me perhaps, >just perhaps, it might help you. > hello Paul-glad to see you are still on the list. yes, I do excercise though I feel i would benefit from more of it. what is it you do in the way of excercise? bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:30:41 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: birthday wishes njc >. Somehow my parents always seemed mature. >I don't know if it was the clothes or the hairstyles, >or whether they just did a really good job of fooling >people. > > > nope. people in the old days looked really old even when they were young. Just look at old films. Orson Welles(sp) was 26 when he made and starred in Citizen Kane. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:31:29 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Vietnam & the draft (NJC) Maureen wrote: > During Vietnam all the poor and working > class kids had to go. The others got student deferments or in > the case of George Bush, Dad pulled some strings and got him > in the National Guard. I don't disagree at all that, with money and influence, many were able to avoid the draft. Don't forget, though, that student deferments were eliminated (in 1970 or '71?). That certainly affected MY life, and those of the people I was at school with. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:32:54 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: When Jaco met Joni Found this on the UK's 'Guitarist' Magazine site http://www.guitarist.co.uk/print.asp?ID=143&type=int [Way back in 1978, Clive Williamson, then a BBC radio journalist, found himself interviewing Jaco Pastorius for a jazz programme. At the time, Jaco was touring the UK with Weather Report...] > > > CW: I first heard your very distinctive sound on Joni Mitchell's > Hejira and Don Juan albums. How did you become involved > in those recordings? > Jaco: "Joni told me that a guitar player named Robben Ford - > who was playing with her - they were touring when my solo record > had come out, and he played her the album and she was knocked > out! She just tried to get a hold of me, and that was it, really. I just > went and played! I didn't even know anything about Joni Mitchell. > I hadn't even heard her music. In fact I hadn't heard any of Weather > Report's music before I joined the group. You know, > I'm a father, my daughter's almost eight, and from when she was > born, I've had no time to listen to music, so I don't know that much > about what's going on. I knew Miles Davis' music and Coltrane, > and James Brown and the Beatles. I know that stuff dead, Frank > Sinatra's too; that was what I was listening to, but once my kids > were born I was working around the clock, didn't have time to listen > to music. Also, music started changing and I didn't like where it was > going for a while. It really needed some direction, but now it's got > Weather Report! (laughs) So I didn't know [Joni's] music, but it was > really fun coming in from nowhere, and adding this thing! It was a > nice combination, especially on the Hejira album. The cut 'Hejira', > itself, I really like. I think that was the first thing I played with her. > [and talking about co-producing Weather Report's 'Heavy Weather' album] > Everything else I'd played on (like with Joni) had just been as a > sideman. But I got to get this sound - like on Joni's, was it 'Jericho'? > The tune before or after 'Jericho' I can't remember, er - 'Talk To Me', > that sort of a sound. I tell them to get that sort of a sound for my bass > from the desk, and I've got to hope they'll get that out on the record > sounding good. Like in Joni's case, Henry Lewy and her work good > together in the studio, and me and Joe work together: this is our > second project together and this only my second time from a > producer's standpoint. [Copyright Future Publishing 02/98] PaulC NP Eleanor - Shawn Colvin and Dave Matthews (wow!!- sounds like Nick Drake came down to sing on the chorus - lovely cello) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:02:23 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: philippine state of affairs NJC In a message dated 12/30/2002 10:55:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, jpalis@kssp.upd.edu.ph writes: > Now, can you trust me if I tell you that the > Philippines is spelled with two "P" and only one "L"? Yikes! Shame shame, everyone knows my name! And thanks so much for the public humiliation! LOL!! But seriously...thanks for the in-depth analysis, certainly more than I was expecting but very interesting. And I agree, it can be frustrating for the populace when promised reforms aren't happening, and equally difficult for an elected official to manage all that power. Mostly I'm glad to hear that you'll be all right for the forseeable future! As I've mentioned to you, my Dad did a stint in the Philippines and has always held the land & its people in high regard. Bob NP: The Cure, "The Snakepit" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:12:59 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: moo Michael (njc) but animal content... Michael Paz wrote: As a last resort BEFORE the farm animals??? What exactly do you mean here Walter?? Not BEFORE, but INSTEAD. Wally, I almost fell off my chair laughing. ( no offense, Mikie, but I thought it was too cute :-) ) lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:17:40 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: licensing >as a composer, Joni would have no chance to allow (or not) the use of a song in a commercial. The decision of whether to allow the recording to be used would belong to whomever holds the copyright to that particular recording,< this is not true...a composer is generally the one who owns the copyright to their own work unless they've sold those rights to someone else which joni has not...joni was always very savy business wise & i believe held on to both the publishing & writing copyrights for her songs...when someone records another person's songs this is a licensing issue & anyone who wants to record one of her songs can do so by paying about 8 cents per song per cd/album/record release ...it is still a licensing issue when recording something for tv/movie broadcast but i'm not sure of the process...pretty sure she can veto the application for the license however, if she were so inclined... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:17:48 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: How do you cope and let go? njc well rose i wrote you off list but i want to add my 2 cents to this discussion...wally what you say, i couldn't have said it any better...it is all so very very very true... >>it is the normal reaction of a healthy person who is grieving.<< this is the hardest yet most important place to start...it so important to allow yourself to feel all of those very uncomfortable emotions, whatever comes up!...the only way to get through it is to go through it fully conscious... >>the pain has to burn itself down to ashes and for that you have to feel it when it comes and goes<<< a brilliant way of describing the process...if you allow the pain to burn instead of trying to put it out through numbing yourself to it, it will eventually burn itself out...otherwise it will smolder inside you remain inside of you in ways that are not healthy... >>it's almost like a bad cold. only you learn very little about yourself from bad colds, while these events in our lives are the sources of the most profound self-examination and learning.<< yes, & in the process which does take time, there are many helpful ways to deal with the pain as it is burning through you....excercise (dance, running, etc), journal writing, playing or listening to music...these things can help move the process along rather than just stagnate inside you...depending on your inclination these things can help you process the feelings & help you to get them out... having responsibilities when you'd rather just lie in bed acutally helps a lot too...a job you have to go to, children & animals who rely on you...these things help to force you to maintain at least on the outside a normal life even when you are hurting so much inside...but it is always important to take time away from these things, to allow yourself whatever time you need for your self alone or with others so that you can just allow yourself to be in & process the pain... >>if this change has come to your life, it is because your life will be better. death and rebirth in one's own lifetime is a gift that not everybody is given....and yet, i can tell you all these things because i believe them, because they have happened to me and because they are natural. welcome change, however deeply it may hurt. it means that you are slowly getting ready for something special.<< this is as true as anything i know...& i can say so because i too have experienced it...i agree these grieving times are a gift...all of these emotions are a gift of becoming more human than you ever imagined was possible & the result of allowing all this to take place is that you will also be visited at times by periods of such amazing grace & insight... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:17:50 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Time magazine ad for travelogue i agree, what a great choice for the time cover!!!! >>The ad for Travelogue (black and white) is in the year end issue (12/30/02) with "The Whistleblowers" on the cover (all women, I love it) on page 14 on the left.<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:17:51 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: birthdays njc belated happy birthdays to stephen t & andrew lb! ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:27:57 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: How do you cope and let go? njc > I can't sleep, can't eat and fear that I'll never be able to stop crying.< crying is the best therapy...don't stop the crying...& listening to music is one of the best ways to open those floodgates...i remember being in a state of having to cope so much with real life that i stuffed the crying inside which was so unhealthy... not sleeping is not q good thing because it makes everything harder to cope with...though i did not do so, looking back at some times i was going through extreme stress i do think it might have been helpful to have had some kind of sleep aid...having a good nights sleep does wonders for being able to cope with painful emotions...without sleep the emotions can be too overwhelming... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:06:45 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: How do you cope and let go? njc Kate Bennett wrote: >>I can't sleep, can't eat and fear that I'll never be able to stop >> >> >crying.< > >crying is the best therapy...don't stop the crying...& listening to music is >one of the best ways to open those floodgates... > when I hit grief and was not crying, my therapist gave me tapes full of miserable songs. It worked-for months on end! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:12:42 +0000 From: colin Subject: NJC From a mail by one of the ladies on my kniitng list: 'Diamonds are a girl's best friend but a Black and Decker powertool will help you hide a body' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:22:17 +0000 From: colin Subject: Harvey Milk NJC Tantra's Harvey Milk (Jayrdige Tantalization with Tantra ex Tantra's Dockyard Doris), went to this first show on saturday and won Best Puppy(9 puppies entered) in his breed.He is 7.5mths old. He and I ended up on the news on Anglia TV! Harvey is a very special boy. he just loves to show off and he is such a happy boy. Never cross. Always loving and michievous and has it written all over his face(when you can see it). i knew the second he was out of Doris(he was frist born) that he was going to be somehting special. My only gripe, is that he is white. An unusual colour for an Apso and of course not the easist to keep clean. he scrubs up really well tho so I don't have to do anything special with him-just have to accept him looking filthy most of the time as he likes to dig in the garden(or the kitchen floor-ripping up the lino). he is into everything all the time. I havenever had a dog with this personality before. He si so easy and friendly. Except for other dogs outside of my home. He warns them off. Which can be a bit awkward. those that were at the UK fest on the fiirst afternoon saw him. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:36:59 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: How do you cope and let go? njc --- Kate Bennett wrote: > > not sleeping is not q good thing because it makes > everything harder to cope > with...though i did not do so, looking back at some > times i was going > through extreme stress i do think it might have been > helpful to have had > some kind of sleep aid...having a good nights sleep > does wonders for being > able to cope with painful emotions...without sleep > the emotions can be too > overwhelming... Sometimes if I'm having a lot of trouble sleeping, I can calm myself down a bit by reminding myself that, if I don't sleep tonight, then I'll probably sleep really well tomorrow. It doesn't always work, but often it does. However if you're constantly going without sleep, you might need something to help you (although I think it's mostly better not to take drugs to help you sleep.) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:37:42 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Harvey Milk NJC In a message dated 30/12/2002 22:23:20 GMT Standard Time, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: > Tantra's Harvey Milk (Jayrdige Tantalization with Tantra ex Tantra's > Dockyard Doris), went to this first show on saturday and won Best > Puppy(9 puppies entered) in his breed.He is 7.5mths old. He and I ended > up on the news on Anglia TV! > That's fantastic news Colin! (I almost typed Harvey there :-) I did indeed meet Harvey and was bowled over - a more adorable puppy you could never meet, as I'm sure others who were there will agree... Azeem in London NP: Stevie Wonder - Golden Lady (from Innervisions) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:41:53 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: birthday wishes njc --- colin wrote: > > > people in the old days looked really old even > when they were > young. Just look at old films. > Orson Welles(sp) was 26 when he made and starred in > Citizen Kane. Orson Wells was always pretty weird-looking. I wonder what he looked like as a child? Some people look old when they're kids but start looking young when they're really old - how does that work? ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:46:23 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Christina Wheeler - Pork Pie Hat Another freebie cover for y'all...this time around it's Christina Wheeler singing Goodbye Pork Pie Hat. I think Christina was one of the singers in the tribute concert in Central Park...anyway, this one is real nice. http://www.markweber.com/textsite/listen.html#jazz Bob NP: Flaming Lips, "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots Pt.2" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:02:57 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: birthday wishes njc > but start looking young when they're >really old - how does that work? > I don't know. have oyu noticed how many men(and women) look much better when they mature? Bruce willis Richard Gerre George Clooney Jack Davenport and I recently saw When Harry Met Sally. Meg ryan looks so much better in her 40's although I did think she looked rather too thin last time I sw her. Mercedes Rauhl is beautiful and has a terrific speaking voice. Saw her recently in What's Cooking? > > >===== >Catherine >Toronto > >______________________________________________________________________ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:05:14 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Harvey Milk NJC > Harvey and was bowled over - a more adorable puppy you could never meet, >as I'm sure others who were there will agree... > I have had many Lhas Apso in the last 30 years. Had my first 2 in 73. Harvey is definately the stand out of all of them. Glad the rest can't read! Iahve to say tho that is mother and father are sweeties too, tho not like Harvey. Harvey is juts special. Even the judge was smiling at him when she was dictating her critique into her machine. thanks Azeem. > >Azeem in London >NP: Stevie Wonder - Golden Lady (from Innervisions) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:25:58 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Harvey Milk NJC In a message dated 12/30/02 5:23:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: > Tantra's Harvey Milk (Jayrdige Tantalization with Tantra ex Tantra's > Dockyard Doris), went to this first show on saturday and won Best > Puppy(9 puppies entered) in his breed.He is 7.5mths old. He and I ended > up on the news on Anglia TV! > Congrats Colin to u and Harvey Milk!!!! ~rose ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:06:39 -0800 From: "RSM" Subject: Re: Harvey Milk NJC No offense, but somehow, this evokes some of the best moments of "Best of Show," one of my favorite "mockumentaries" done by Christopher Guest. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "colin" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: Re: Harvey Milk NJC | > Harvey and was bowled over - a more adorable puppy you could never meet, | >as I'm sure others who were there will agree... | > | I have had many Lhas Apso in the last 30 years. Had my first 2 in 73. | Harvey is definately the stand out of all of them. Glad the rest can't | read! Iahve to say tho that is mother and father are sweeties too, tho | not like Harvey. Harvey is juts special. Even the judge was smiling at | him when she was dictating her critique into her machine. | | thanks Azeem. | | > | >Azeem in London | >NP: Stevie Wonder - Golden Lady (from Innervisions) | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:17:42 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Time Ad I wrote "PS - I saw a 1/3 page ad for T in this week's Time Magazine. Price was right, no doubt :~)" Bryan asked > You're kidding. Which Time rag* is that, what's on the cover? The ad must > have been booked before Nonesuch stopped promoting T'log. Assuming the Q was not rhetorical, the issue is the 12/30/02 - 1/6/03 issue with three female whistleblowers on the cover. Ad is on the "letters" page (P12, but the first numbered page in the mag mag is p 26 - geez). Anyway, the cost is only a cross-charge, on the AOL bottom line. Bob S ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 21:57:19 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Disappointment NJC THAT'S the idea beeeatch. Find a GOOD one. Size DOES matter but not really as long as it is a GOOD one! Love Paz on 12/29/02 4:24 PM, RoseMJoy@aol.com at RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > Thanks for the chuckle, U guys are a hoot! Sick bastids. btw, I keep getting > enhance the size of your penis emails, and I don't have a dick! oops, sorry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:06:15 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: moo Michael (njc) but animal content... Ok Walter now you got the straight white chicks joining in on this thread. Cute dawg verrrrry cute! Paz P.S. Strike one Anne dear! on 12/30/02 10:12 AM, anne@sandstrom.com at anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > Michael Paz wrote: As a last resort BEFORE the farm > animals??? What exactly do you mean here Walter?? > > > Not BEFORE, but INSTEAD. Wally, I almost fell off my > chair laughing. ( no offense, Mikie, but I thought it > was too cute :-) ) > > lots of love > Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 04:11:07 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Harvey Milk NJC RSM wrote: >No offense, but somehow, this evokes some of the best moments of "Best of >Show," one of my favorite "mockumentaries" done by Christopher Guest. > > > none taken. it was an excellent film. The dog press here loved it. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:27:46 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: birthday wishes njc Orson always wore a fake nose in movies. He hated his nose!! He also drank copious amounts of caffeine a day...and many bottles of wine with his meals..plus the hard stuff. I thought he was a fascinating character and one of those people I would have loved to dine with just once..and soak it all in. Bree NP: When I Look In Your Eyes.. >Just look at old films. > > Orson Welles(sp) was 26 when he made and starred in > > Citizen Kane. > >Orson Wells was always pretty weird-looking. I wonder >what he looked like as a child? Some people look old >when they're kids but start looking young when they're >really old - how does that work? > > >===== >Catherine >Toronto > >______________________________________________________________________ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 04:42:08 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: birthday wishes njc Bree Mcdonough wrote: > Orson always wore a fake nose in movies. He hated his nose!! He also > drank copious amounts of caffeine a day...and many bottles of wine > with his meals..plus the hard stuff. I thought he was a fascinating > character and one of those people I would have loved to dine with just > once..and soak it all in. > > Bree > ......and soak it all in...... would it not be simpler to just buy your own caffeine and wine? ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #595 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)