From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #590 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, December 27 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 590 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Islam versus the West njc [colin ] Another Review of Travelogue [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] December 26th!!!!!!! ["Kate Bennett" ] An Apology and Goodbye ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: 'prepare' njc [Randy Remote ] where is hope? LA Times poll njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: where is hope? LA Times poll njc [colin ] Rolling Stone did not name HOSL worst album of the year in 1975 [Aerchak@] OK njc [Catherine McKay ] Diana Krall's ACOY video [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] birthday wishes [frasere@intergate.ca] Herb Ritts ["kakki" ] Re: birthday wishes [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Herb Ritts [RoseMJoy@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:15:40 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Islam versus the West njc Hi Nikki-my comments were not about Islam, or at least not just about Islam, but rather some of it's follwers(as with the other religions) Of course it iis about people and how the use their beliefs. I know that islam is aout love and respect but that some people ahve twisted it. Unfortunately tho, there are people who do wish to foece their beliefs on others. I also think that running a coluntry accoridng to relgious doctrine, is forcing one's beliefs on others. I hope you undrstand that I am not criticising you or an y other person who follows a pathway that makes them more peaceful and loving. bw colin Nikki Johnson wrote: >Islam actually allows for other religions to practice their religion and for >those who do not follow Islam to reach God so I think that makes it easy to >not force it on others. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 09:33:33 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Another Review of Travelogue While I was in Raleigh visiting my sisters, I picked up a copy of the "Independent Weekly", the local guide to movies, music, restaurants, etc. Much to my surprise there was an article called "Boomer Christmas: Tips for the Woodstockers on Your List", in which they reviewed releases from Hendrix, Dylan, and Joni. Also much to my surprise (and delight), the writer Joe Vanderford combined a review of Rachel Z's "Moon At The Window" in with his T'log review. (Les, let me know if you want me to mail the original to you). Here is what he says: "Unlike Hendrix, Mitchell,now a dignified senior citizen, has the luxury of updating her resume every year or two with a new record. Her latest, Travelogue (Nonesuch) is an ambitious and luxurious double-CD retrospective, featuring a 70-piece orchestra, a 13-voice choir and vivid artwork by Mitchell herself both in the booklet and on disc. Charted by noted jazz arranger Vince Mendoza, the 22 cuts include both familiar tomes like "The Circle Game" and "Woodstock" (oh, the irony), as well as eclectic and carefully wrought sketches such as "Cherokee Louise". Start-to-finish, the music is lavish in detail and unerringly lovely. And, as a bonus, Mitchell is in fine voice. With A mature tone sculpted by cigarettes and time, she has become that solid jazz singer she has always wanted to be. Travelogue is also too much of a good thing. Too many instruments. Too many tunes played at dirge-like tempi. A palette of songs so chromatically saturated that the colors ooze rather than enlighten. Thank goodness for those whimsical respites by Wayne Shorter, Mitchell's constant musical companion over the last two decades, which provide sporadic relief from Mendoza's wall of sound. To a degree, the Shorter-Mitchell tandem's got a Laurel & Hardy flavor. The quintessential musical minimalist, Shorter portrays the trim Stan Laurel: an unassuming figure who says lots with small gestures. Sadly, the saxophonist's compact but piping soprano is not enough this time. Despite flashes of undeniable beauty, the package's prevailing mood of self-importance fatigues the ears. I prefer Joni-lite. Moon At The Window (Tone Center) by the Rachel Z Trio is a straight-up jazz-piano record with a crisp all-Mitchell repertoire. Like Travelogue, Moon's program glows with diversity, reflecting both the hits and obscurities worthy of re-interpretation. A flexible flyer who doubles as an art-rock princess in Peter Gabriel's band, Z possesses a deft touch and quick wit, enhancing the accessibility of old-school players like, oh, Vince Guaraldi (composer of the Peanuts soundtracks) with double-fisted, no-holds-barred improv. Fans suspicious of the glut of tribute records currently on the market, please lighten up: Moon is a first-class jazz disc by any standard, regardless of any association with the repertoire of St. Joan." Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Earth Died Screaming", Oakland CA 2.4.96 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 09:58:08 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: December 26th!!!!!!! Happy Happy Birthday to you Gregg, hoping you'll make your way out west to sing for us someday soon! >> oin me in wishing a wonderful birthday to r. Gregg Cagno over there in a snow laden Pennsylvania I'm sure.<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 09:58:13 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: An Apology and Goodbye gary, i am sorry to hear of your troubles, i've had similar tough times & want to add my voice to others who have said that yes, it can & will get better & you will be a richer person for your experience though that may be small consolation right now...i'm glad you posted for help, i'm not in a position of employing anyone but thought that if you post a brief summary of what sort of e field of work you've been in that someone might have an idea or a friend or...in some way might be able to help... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:08:49 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: 'prepare' njc WILLIAM FOWLER wrote: > God promised Israel > their land. It does not belong to the Palestinians or the Arabs in general. > It belongs to the Jews, God's chosen people. Hmmm....dangerous ground considering that the Nazis thought they were God's chosen race, too ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:56:33 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: where is hope? LA Times poll njc i am not sure how accurate polls are in gauging overall opinions but i offer this article as a ray of hope to anyone who is not convinced that war is the answer... i offer this especially to those jmdlers who live in europe & the middle east who are understandibly uneasy (understatement) about the bluster of our country's administration...since you are geographically closer to the targeted area...it is my hope that this will provide some small measure of comfort in knowing that there is still much resistance in the usa to a war in iraq...for what it is worth... i hope even those who feel this war is justified will understand my motivations in posting this article... POLL: BUSH HASN'T MADE CASE FOR IRAQ WAR USA Today / December 17, 2002 http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-12-17-iraq-poll_x.htm LOS ANGELES (APOnline) -- More than two-thirds of Americans believe the Bush administration has failed to make its case that a war against Iraq is justified, according to a poll by the Los Angeles Times published Tuesday. Ninety percent of respondents said they don't doubt Iraq is developing weapons of mass destruction. But without new evidence from U.N. inspectors, 72% of respondents, including 60% of Republicans, said the president has not provided enough evidence to justify starting a war. The Times poll, which interviewed 1,305 adults nationwide, was conducted from Thursday to Sunday, in the week after Iraq handed over its massive report on its arsenal to the United Nations. The margin of error was plus or minus 3 percentage points. Support for a possible war appears to be weakening, with 58% saying they support a ground attack on Iraq, according to the poll. In an August Times poll, 64% said they would support a ground attack. In January, the Times and other polls found support for military action more than 70%. Yet almost three-quarters of Americans support the way Bush is handling the threat of terrorism, and nearly three in five like how he's handling the country's affairs. Sixty-three percent of those polled said war would be justified only if the United Nations finds a pattern of serious violations by Iraq. Only 22% agreed with the administration's position that any error or omission in Iraq's arms declaration is adequate to justify war; 6% said it would depend on the nature of the omissions; and 9% said they were not sure or declined to reply. If U.N. inspections fail to find evidence of Iraqi weapons programs, almost half said they would oppose war. Only 41% would favor war, and 10% said they were undecided. Only 26% said they were willing to support war if the United States acted alone. Respondents also believe war would have serious ramifications at home and abroad. Sixty-seven percent said war would likely increase the threat of terrorist attacks in the United States; 51% said they feel it would destabilize the Middle East; and 45% said it will adversely impact the U.S. economy. ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:08:28 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: where is hope? LA Times poll njc Kate Bennett wrote: >i am not sure how accurate polls are in gauging overall opinions but i offer >this article as a ray of hope to anyone who is not convinced that war is the >answer... > >i offer this especially to those jmdlers who live in europe & the middle >east who are understandibly uneasy (understatement) about the bluster of our >country's administration...since you are geographically closer to the >targeted area...it is my hope that this will provide some small measure of >comfort in knowing that there is still much resistance in the usa to a war >in iraq...for what it is worth... > > > Thank you Kate. Right now, I find the NK situation more scary- this could go nuclear. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:02:08 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Rolling Stone did not name HOSL worst album of the year in 1975 In Karen O'Brien's book, Shadows & Light, the author writes on page 153, "Rock trivia misconceptions 1: In 1975 Rolling Stone named The Hissing of Summer Lawns the worst album of the year. Wrong. It was branded the worst album title of the year. But the former interpretation has become part of the accepted wisdom about Joni Mitchell's work and is oft-repeated in articles about her." Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:21:13 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: OK njc Where'd everybody go? Hmm. You'd think it was Christmas or something. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:32:41 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Diana Krall's ACOY video http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/verve/artist.asp?aid=2701&ev=diggables& brws=False Or if that doesn't work, go to DianaKrall.com and follow the links. The video, from the DVD, is about 6 & a half minutes long and pretty darn good. Bob NP: The Albion Band, "Big Yellow Taxi" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:21:18 -0800 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: birthday wishes to the greatest birthday fairy in the world: Wally, the happiest of birthdays to you- here's hoping that all you dream and wish for come true. Enjoy your special day. love Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:42:23 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Herb Ritts I just heard that Herb Ritts has passed away here in LA from pneumonia. He was only 50 years old. He took some of the most beautiful photos of Joni over many years. He also lent his expertise to a good friend of mine a couple years ago who was recovering from cancer and seeking a second career as a model. I'm stunned and sad. What a loss. http://www.msnbc.com/news/852014.asp?0cv=CB10 Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 00:55:13 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: birthday wishes HAPPY BIRTHDAY WALLY!!!! LOVE, ROSIE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:04:01 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Herb Ritts In a message dated 12/27/02 12:43:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@vzavenue.net writes: > He took some of the most beautiful photos of Joni > over many years. He sure did. A major loss in the world of Photography. He took the sexiest photograph of Joni IMO on the jacket of The Complete Poems and Lyrics ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #590 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)