From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #576 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, December 19 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 576 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Two winners!!!!!!!!!! ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Shit that was a lot of fun!!! ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: More trivia NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: More trivia NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: More trivia NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Trivia question!! njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] zorah leander - njc ["patrick leader" ] byt ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Heart-mandolins and lutes NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] sweetest voice choice njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Discussion List? ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: More trivia NJC [nyroman ] Re: More trivia NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: shadesofscarlett ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] PBS program: On schedule for May 2003, apparently ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lam] Re: sweetest voice choice njc [Mags N Brei ] Re: Travelogue criticism ["kakki" ] Lowdown sadness, was "Re: Continuing sadness" njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lam] eryl.bryn's response to Travelogue ["PAUL PETERSON" ] Re: sweetest voice choice njc [Susan Guzzi ] RE: Kawrong.ren Carpenter njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Today's Library Links: December 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Storms (njc) ["kakki" ] NJC December 16th... [dsk ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #575 - Ann, Nancy & Joni [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #575 -- Judy, innovation, drinking, etc. NJC [BRYA] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:09:54 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Two winners!!!!!!!!!! Bob Mueller is the top dog!!!!!!! Ken about a second behind!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:13:36 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Shit that was a lot of fun!!! Duh the answer: Turn to the Right!!...go right young man...... Bob I have your home address. Ken I will need yours. Thanks everyone that was a blast!! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:30:15 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Shit that was a lot of fun!!! NJC In a message dated 12/18/2002 9:14:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Bob I have your home address. NOW you just gave away who you're secretly in love with! LOL! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:36:07 -0500 From: "William Chavez" Subject: She's heard her voice thru "both sides now" Interesting thoughts. As someone who very much prefers Billie Holiday's earlier stuff, the question of expression makes me think that no matter how much expression you intend for a given performance, if you have less of an instrument (voice) to work with, you have, well, you have less to work with. There are places you cannot go. Sure you can make up for it with inflection, etc, but that is compensation. I wonder if she pulls half the hairs out of her paintbrush to intentionally get more expression out of it. Somehow I doubt it. So I'm left with the conclusion that her limited voice is something she has to work around, and it is not so much intentional as the price of chain-smoking. Not to dredge up the smoking issue again, but, as with any addiction, not only the addict, but those around her also suffer. RR True but what I was pointing at was that at times she had no problems sustaining notes effectively and in other area she would take a similar note and just cut it off. Granted, their are vocal limitations on this project that probably couldn't be helped, but in other areas I think she imposed the vocal limits to see how much mileage she could get from just inflection. I think in some twisted way Joni has wanted a voice like this for a long time and I think smoking helped her get it. Correction, Joni probably wanted and was very happy with a voice like she had on TI. On TI, the vocal deterioration had affected her voice to the point where it was "just right"-like sleeping in baby bear's bed. I loved her TI voice. On T'log she crossed the fine line were many just consider the voice horrible. Still, I think she likes her current voice, she appreciates it despite the fact that others don't. I would like to think Joni would like to turn back the deterioration to the level of TI but somehow I don't think she would trade her T'log voice for her STAS or C&S voice. She's been there, done that. Will I thought paintbrushes already came in different sizes?? :) NP Jane Oliver(First Night)-Vincent _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:37:44 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Shit that was a lot of fun!!! NJC LOL!!!!! The bubbly loosened me up too much!! I guess they were bound to find out sometime???? I'll get with you off list. (even that sounds suspicious) Bree >In a message dated 12/18/2002 9:14:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, >bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > > > Bob I have your home address. > >NOW you just gave away who you're secretly in love with! LOL! > The _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:41:04 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: More trivia NJC OK Bree, you got me going...no prizes, just for fun: - -We all know what SIQUOMB stands for. What does Joni's SIOFA stand for? - -What producer plays piano for Joan Baez & Petula Clark in the film 'The Big TNT Show'? - -Whose first 2 hits were "I Wonder Why" & "No One Knows"? - -Which Rolling Stone served 2 years in the Royal Air Force? - -What work did Hector Berlioz describe as starting with a musician poisoning himself with opium "in a fit of amorous despair"? - -What did Duke Ellington change 'Concerto for Cootie' to when lyrics were added? Bob NP: Last Time I Saw Richard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:51:15 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Trivia question!! njc Hey this was fixed ... Bree you know I would nver turn to the RIGHT - I go to the left EVERYTIME! Also I have asked you to stop chasing me - it would never work! You know ... you say potato - I say ... well you know. LOL! JK! It was fun, thanks Bree! Congrats Bob & Ken - ;-P Peace, Susan NP: Diana Krall/Live In Paris/I've Got You Under My Skin - THANKS! Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:53:32 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: More trivia NJC Great questions!! Charlie Watts? >OK Bree, you got me going...no prizes, just for fun: > >-We all know what SIQUOMB stands for. What does Joni's SIOFA stand for? > >-What producer plays piano for Joan Baez & Petula Clark in the film 'The >Big >TNT Show'? > >-Whose first 2 hits were "I Wonder Why" & "No One Knows"? > >-Which Rolling Stone served 2 years in the Royal Air Force? > >-What work did Hector Berlioz describe as starting with a musician >poisoning >himself with opium "in a fit of amorous despair"? > >-What did Duke Ellington change 'Concerto for Cootie' to when lyrics were >added? > >Bob > >NP: Last Time I Saw Richard _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:56:30 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: More trivia NJC Duke Ellington question...Satin Doll or Take the A Train...Mood Indigo????? Too easy...I'm sure not right. Bree >From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com >Reply-To: SCJoniGuy@aol.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: More trivia NJC >Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:41:04 EST > >OK Bree, you got me going...no prizes, just for fun: > >-We all know what SIQUOMB stands for. What does Joni's SIOFA stand for? > >-What producer plays piano for Joan Baez & Petula Clark in the film 'The >Big >TNT Show'? > >-Whose first 2 hits were "I Wonder Why" & "No One Knows"? > >-Which Rolling Stone served 2 years in the Royal Air Force? > >-What work did Hector Berlioz describe as starting with a musician >poisoning >himself with opium "in a fit of amorous despair"? > >-What did Duke Ellington change 'Concerto for Cootie' to when lyrics were >added? > >Bob > >NP: Last Time I Saw Richard _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:58:07 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: More trivia NJC In a message dated 12/18/2002 9:57:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Duke Ellington question...Satin Doll or Take the A Train...Mood Indigo????? > Both incorrect, as was Charlie Watts ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:00:55 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Trivia question!! njc LOL!!! Only your mind could come up with that! How can you expect me to stop chasing you when you play music such as your are playing now??? Like putty in your hands.... Bree >Hey this was fixed ... Bree you know I would nver turn to the RIGHT - I go >to the left EVERYTIME! > >Also I have asked you to stop chasing me - it would never work! You know >... you say potato - I >say ... well you know. LOL! JK! > >It was fun, thanks Bree! > >Congrats Bob & Ken - ;-P > >Peace, >Susan > >NP: Diana Krall/Live In Paris/I've Got You Under My Skin - THANKS! >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:03:50 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: zorah leander - njc this is for roberto, wally, jerry, anyone who's into something a little campy, a little historic, with some opera content. i never heard of this woman before yesterday, but she was a dietrich type who never became popular in the states, but was huge in germany and some of europe, and had a career that went from 1931 to 1972. lowest voice i've ever heard in a woman, and it is so intriguing... the article includes links to about 6 mp3s, includingone of her singing 'wunderbar', which was her signature tune, and a german version of 'send in the clowns' that is absolutely riveting. here's the article http://www.parterre.com/zarahleander.htm here's send in the clowns http://www.parterre.com/leander_clowns.mp3 days when the world throws astonishing new stuff at me like this: heaven! patrick np - kronos - nuevo [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:24:25 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: byt >>that Counting Crows/Vanessa Carlton cd single of BYT...<< i heard that song today in linens & things...i was disappointed- i love the crows but don't like that song very much probably because its been overoveroverplayed... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:24:57 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Heart-mandolins and lutes NJC >>His name is Chris Thile and he is recognized in the mandolin community as the greatest virtuoso ever. And he's only 22. Les<< YAY! we got les to post!!! thanks, i'd forgotten his name, we saw them last year & chris was SO SO SO adorable...hoping up & down on stage in sheer joy & excitement ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:24:59 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: sweetest voice choice njc >> I used to think Judy had the sweetest voice in the world. Now I think her voice can't compare with "Karen Carenter".Karen's singing voice was just gorgeous...<<< my sweetest voice choice would have to be emmylou harris...or maybe alison krauss who's yours? ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:25:00 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Discussion List? >>>I Joined the list on Sunday hoping to find some like minded people<<< this is a diverse list...there have been many positive posts about t'log which you may have missed having just joined up...anyway you should stick around because it is always changing...just don't expect everyone to agree on anything & you'll be fine! diverse opinions is what makes this list so fascinating! ps i love t'log & expected not too! ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:24:17 -0500 From: nyroman Subject: Re: More trivia NJC SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > -We all know what SIQUOMB stands for. What does Joni's SIOFA stand for? > That would be "She Is Our Favorite Animal" referring to a cat in Joni's mythology name game! Got an old CD out just to be sure of that one, Bob! Thanks for the fun! Gary NP: Joni - Brandy Eyes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:29:51 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: More trivia NJC In a message dated 12/18/2002 11:25:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, nyro_in_detroit@sbcglobal.net writes: > That would be "She Is Our Favorite Animal" referring to a > cat in Joni's mythology name game! > > Got an old CD out just to be sure of that one, Bob! Well, you cheated I suppose(;~D), but thanks for the correct answer...how appropriate that of all the questions I asked, the Joni one got answered first! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:31:20 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: shadesofscarlett Right. Exactly. I agree. Who cares about a tribute album that's in the can? It might be a very strange concept to have approval over one's own tribute album anyway. I mean, as reluctant as she was to put out "hits", I don't WANT anything else that smells even remotely like a 'swan song'. Can you imagine asking someone, "So---- how's the inscription for your headstone coming along?" Who in their right mind wants her to "sign off" on a tribute album? We have a new album, TRAVELOGUE. Full stop as the Brits say. Lama P.S. I wouldn't mind asking, "So, now that you have a taste for a big sound, how are going to use it NEXT?! Are you going to collaborate with Vince on new stuff, giving him little spaces as you do with Wayne? Are you gonna update Paprika Plains? What's simmering in the stew pot, woman?" Bob Muller said, >>>> Well daggummit, we have seen THREE this year alone - Steve Klink's "Places To Come From, Places To Go", Big Yellow Taxi, and the SUPERB Rachel Z Trio's "Moon At The Window". Add to that the duo from David Lahm, the "Back To The Garden" Canadian Tribute, the Swedish "A Bird That Whistles" project, the FLAWLESS Lydia van Dam "Both Sides Now", the very flawed "Came Upon A Child of God" from the UK, and that doesn't even count the 11 covers CD's I assembled this year...am I leaving any out? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:32:18 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: PBS program: On schedule for May 2003, apparently What I *do* care about is beating the drum for the PBS special, still scheduled apparently for May 2003 in the "American Masters Series". While there's nothing new about it on the site, http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/mitchell_j_homepage.html I guess it's okay to tell y'all that our own archivist, Simon Montgomery, was a consultant for the program. Way to go, Simon! Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:52:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: sweetest voice choice njc eva cassidy. Kate Bennett wrote:>> I used to think Judy had the sweetest voice in the world. Now I think her voice can't compare with "Karen Carenter".Karen's singing voice was just gorgeous...<<< my sweetest voice choice would have to be emmylou harris...or maybe alison krauss who's yours? ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:53:58 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Travelogue criticism Hell wrote: > You know what makes me laugh? Imagining what this list would have been > like, had it been in existence when Mingus, or DED were released - imagine > the flame wars we could have had! I was thinking along the same lines last week - if there had been an internet and discussion list back around HOSL or Mingus, I can easily picture myself at the time whining sorrowfully about Joni changing beccause that is how I felt. Wouldn't have felt the need to flame anyone - would have just been slightly depressed and morose ;-) When DJRD first came along, I thought she had reached her lowest point but then something in me changed. I didn't want to accept that she had "fallen so far," so kept listening to it in an attempt to defy my own perceptions. Took 20 years but finally there was a breakthrough and it is now in my top 3. I finally came around with HOSL and Mingus thanks to discussions I read here. Maybe I was ready for it, too. > There are some Joni albums that people like, and there are some that people > don't like, so why all the fuss about Travelogue? I'm not sure - maybe some of the professionals on the list can analyze this phenomenon and explain it to us! ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:58:40 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Lowdown sadness, was "Re: Continuing sadness" njc Here is a big version of one of this year's group photos: http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/view_photo.php?id=INDOOR_GROUP_PHOTO5_ROLL_X _FXX_BY_LAMA Thanks, as always, to Chris Marshall for hosting these pictures. Susan Guzzi said, >>>>>>I shared a few short moments with Karin late into fest weekend, although I was sorry I did not get to spend more time with her. I am happy to be seated by her side for our annual group photo. I remember that she was ill throughout the weekend, I never knew how ill, till Helga and I began writing to eachother and she told me. >>>>>>>> Lama ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:06:25 -0500 From: "PAUL PETERSON" Subject: eryl.bryn's response to Travelogue There are plenty of us here that think this is a great great CD. I related to your comment about how emotional your response has been. I have had the same intense reaction, crying at least once every time I listen to one or the other CD's. Somehow, the selections seem either utterly contemporary or achingly nostalgic. I am about the same age as Joni, and have been in love with her music since the first album, so I think there is a component of remembrance of things past to some of the cuts. For example, I have such a strong connection to Chinese Cafe partly because of the strong memories I have of the time I was listening to it and the people I was listening to it with. Somehow, too, and I have no idea why, the lyrics to the songs seem to have gained a prominence and a power that I never picked up on before. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:10:45 -0500 From: "PAUL PETERSON" Subject: Meryl and Evita NJC Streep was all set to do the film with Oliver Stone directing. But production was repeatedly delayed until finally she dropped out due to her other commitments. Eventually Stone dropped out as well. I agree that Streep would have been amazing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:30:49 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: sweetest voice choice njc WOW Magsie, you got that right! For pure sweetness Eva's the woman! She was an angel, even before she was an angel! I can't even imagine Sting doing "Fields of Gold" again after hearing her ... gets me to that blubbering point Mags. Kate, a friend recently burned me an Alison Krauss cd "New Favorite." It is in my regular rotation lately - she is mighty fine. Check out this "Yankee" saying "mighty fine, " I could get beat up in Chicago talking like DAT! So many sweet voices ... who will I let put me to sleep tonight? Damn I have a house guest - can't play the stereo all night long, as per usual. Peace, Susan NP: Lucinda Williams/Right In Time - --- Mags N Brei wrote: > eva cassidy. > > Kate Bennett wrote:>> I used to think Judy had the sweetest voice in the > world. Now I think > her voice can't compare with "Karen Carenter".Karen's singing voice was just > gorgeous...<<< > > my sweetest voice choice would have to be emmylou harris...or maybe alison > krauss > > who's yours? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:54:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Kawrong.ren Carpenter njc mulvey, you're fantasies belie your chivalry. wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Adam Mulvey Enviado el: Miircoles, 18 de Diciembre de 2002 11:00 p.m. Para: Joni Mitchell List Asunto: Re: Kawrong.ren Carpenter njc Well, how beautifiul. How astonishing it really is, to realise that Richard Carpenter was actually a disgusting pervert who liked to have anal intercourse with his own sister!! That is the be-all and end-all of what you're saying, isn't it? Or could it be that you're so swayed by the force of urban myth that you reckon that Richard Carpenter spent most of 1982 with his penis inserted deep into his sister's amaciated anus? Or are you (perish the thought!) so brain-dead through years of National Enquirer-lead bullshit that you cannot sort the vomitously disgusting idea that (a) Karen Carpenter had one of the most painfully introspective voices in contemporary music *without* resorting to either (a) the idea that she had fellatio with close blood relatives or (b) she just happened to rely on him so much that when then the crunch came, his bid for independence was more than she could bear? Don't want to spoil the party, or anything!!! God Bless! Adam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:05:48 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 19 On December 19 the following item was published: 1994: "A Deeper Shade of Blue" - Time (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=380 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:52:52 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Storms (njc) Hope everyone on the West Coast (of North America) is keeping safe and high and dry. We just had a whopper and several more massive ones are rolling in. The satellite pics look like giant cold hurricanes. It was *snowing* outside my 30th floor window the other day! (But it melts on the way down). A co-worker from Wisconsin got so excited she phoned her grandmother back home! The snow on the local mountains is incredible and they are predicting snow at the 1000 ft. elevations with the one coming tomorrow. Maybe we'll go skiing in the Hollywood Hills. I saw the following on another list and it made me think of Eric's "California Smoking Crusader" comments the other day ;-) "Californians are the most screwed up people in the world. How the Typical Californian responds to... Mudslides, Hey no problem Earthquakes, No Big deal Smog, The more the merrier Police Chases, Cool there is someone on TV Drive by shootings, Whoopie doo. Power outages - Oh well what can you do Tobacco - Oooh, oooh a cigarette!! Oh my god, Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Kakki, going to look for her hot toddy mixes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:36:12 -0500 From: dsk Subject: NJC December 16th... ... is a special day! Here's wishing my friend Colin a very happy birthday!!! Oh, yes, I know you're three days into it already (I'm running behind the times and all that), but before you get any older, I just wanted to say I hope this year is your best one ever!!! with all good wishes for you in every way, Debra Shea NSIMH: Colin's dogs jumping around and wanting to play... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:43:25 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #575 - Ann, Nancy & Joni (And Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart are big Joni fans.) I have a friend who used to be the road manager for Heart. He once told me that Ann (or maybe it was Nancy) told him that she saw Joni backstage at the Grammys and wanted to approach her, but was too star-struck and in awe of Joni to do it. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:47:55 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #575 -- Judy, innovation, drinking, etc. NJC I> Don't forget this was the period when Judy was drinking very > heavily. I'm sure that seriously affected her singing ability. > Oddly (or not), it was when Judy stopped drinking that she stopped creating such innovative, on-the-edge albums and became more of a middle-of-the-road chanteuse. Bryan ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #576 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)