From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #569 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, December 15 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 569 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: For Free - Ick??? ["chuty001" ] Meryl NJC ["William Chavez" ] t-log/Laura Nyro ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #567/opening line to "Richard" and Mariah [Aerchak@] Re: headphone tips NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: downtown messiah - njc but jane siberry content [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Stevie Wonder/now Joan Osborne--NJC [Wtking59@cs.com] Re: downtown messiah/jane siberry - njc [Wtking59@cs.com] Re: For Free - Ick??? now njc [Catherine McKay ] Christmas wishes njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #392 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #392 [StDoherty@aol.com] opening line to "Richard" ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: t-log/Laura Nyro ["jeff t." ] Re: Azeem review/Kathryn Williams njc ["Adam Mulvey" ] re gemma hayes ["joe farrell" ] Re: headphone tips NJC [FredNow@aol.com] Mojo NJC jmdl content ["chuty001" ] The Circle Game As A Song About The Biz [Nuriel Tobias ] Find me....njc [colin ] a quick hello, and misc. ["Jim Leonard" ] Re: Mojo NJC jmdl content [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Find me....njc [Mags N Brei ] Re: Detroit in '68 ["Stephen Toogood" ] Note for future ["Happy The Man" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #564 Statue $$$$$$$$$ [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Travolgue on the shelf [Little Bird ] I gone and done it...email change ["Nikki Johnson" Subject: Re: For Free - Ick??? I've all ways loved for free but then again I'm a musician and this can be a handy cap when it comes to understanding some things like what is Ick? I am curious do you like Furry sings the blues or goodbye pork pie? I find them appealing for the same reason. Is it the Ick that I find appealing or am I way off here and Ick is some new girl band I haven't heard about doing a cover of FTR Chuck - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:56 PM Subject: Re: For Free - Ick??? > In a message dated 12/13/2002 walterphil@excite.com wrote > > >>"tin angel" you can keep. > and i agree with you about "for free". ick<< > > WHAT? Sheer SACRILEGE Walt!!! What in the world are/were you thinking??? ;-) > "Tin Angel" is surely one of the best songs from "Clouds," and the same thing > goes for the original, "Ladies of the Canyon" version of "For Free." > Both tracks are classic---and absolutely essential. > > XXXOOO, > Billy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 03:52:13 -0500 From: "William Chavez" Subject: Meryl NJC >I've always felt that Meryl is Hollywood's equivalent of Joni >Mitchell - >prolific, wise, elegant, award-winning, brilliant. Meryl is incredible. All class! She is also a great singer! At least I've always assumed that was truly her singing in that movie she did with Shirley. Can anybody verify this. Is that song available? I think it was a Ray Charles tune. Will _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 06:10:39 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: t-log/Laura Nyro i've been paying more attention to travelogue and my opinion hasn't changed. it's 80% boring in a ''why bother, joni?'' kinda way, 10% embarrassing (the men's chorus -- horrid!) and 10% nice and/or ok. my main peeve is that except for maybe be cool and stuff like that, the lyrics are too GOOD for the orchestration. it's like a beautiful child of ten wearing mascara and blood-red lipstick: you spoil the freshness. for that kind of orchestration you need a cole porter lyric -- cool, urban, perfectly built for THAT purpose -- or an opera aria, for god's sake. the way i see it, it seems as if joni were bleeding all over the harps. when you write something like amelia or otis and marlena, you write it for a totally different kind of instrumental environment. what's subtle yet profoundly affecting to a guitar or piano accompaniment may be wasted on a full orchestra. why would anyone want to say ''amelia, it was just a false alarm'' backed up by a trillion violins. these are things that you say in private, that you speak in a barely furnished room. the great lyricists of the past chose and organized the words with a view to orchestration. nelson riddle did a great job not only because he was so good at it but also because the words lent themselves to many sorts of musical arrangements. joni's lyrics are too discursive, they are, so to speak, semiotically wrong in a GRAND acoustic environment. i also found that there was no effort at deconstructing on the part of joni before submitting her lyrics to this treatment. it's like, ''ok, take the guitar away and put in a billion instruments''. it's not that easy. you can't just sing a joni song regardless of the kind of accompaniment you have. you must re-interpret, re-write the song. of course it's joni and i would like it even if it were 70 minutes of joni burping to a microphone. but *objectively* it's: ''humph!'' (i didn't buy the cd. i guiltlessly, cheerfully and illegally downloaded it from the internet. $40 is one fifth of my rent after the peso devaluation. i have my hands full with IMF. let joni donate her royalties to my cause.) somebody was writing about laura nyro. well, i'll never forget the time i heard eli for the first time. i was BLOWN. laura nyro was/is a force of nature. NY tendaberry is a masterpiece. every single note and vowel and consonant on that album is the result of genius. in fact, i'm going to go and play it right now to give myself a treat. i have half a bottle of champagne left from yesterday. i'll treat myself to that too. anyone want to join me despite my ruthless use of the internet? wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 04:59:19 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #567/opening line to "Richard" and Mariah The opening line to the "Last Time I Saw Richard" is perhaps the greatest intro to any song ever and the idea of changing "68" is just inconceivable to me. The Last Time I Saw Richard was Detroit in 98. Give me a break. I don't think a younger listener needs a time frame to appreciate Joni. If so, maybe h/she should listen to mariah, who great voice or not, is so awful I can't even stand it. Plus, I decided the other night that she's had a boob job. Not recently, they've been fake all along. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 12:16:19 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: headphone tips NJC >>Friends have bought other Sennheiser models and agree that Sennheiser makes a quality product.<< I recently bought some sennheiser 'phones and although they are nowhere near top of the range (HD497s) they are a MAJOR improvement on what I had before. I thought about what song to put on to test them and finally chose 'Proof' from Pat Metheny's splendid recent album, 'Speaking of Now'. Sensational difference. Looking back on his career as a writer and musician I really think that future generations will talk Pat Metheny in the same way as we talk now of Miles, Coltrane, and Parker. 'Speaking of Now' has to be my album of the year. I really think you should listen to it (copyright Fred Simon). Does music get any better? (ditto) mike in barcelona NP Maiden Voyage - Herbie Hancock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 08:41:13 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: downtown messiah - njc but jane siberry content Patrick raved: > bob, this is for you. Hey, congratulations on a great & memorable musical night Patrick. Very cool story. I almost deleted the post when I saw BOTH "Messiah" and "Jane Siberry" in the subject line! :~D Glad I didn't. Another one of those "only in NY stories". You're in for the "Wall to Wall" show, right? I guess I need to start making my plans for that. And what is up with David Johansen..."new folkie"? Seems like you can't blink without him morphing into some new gimmick, all of which are pretty "icky" imo.... Bob NP: Stan Ridgway, "Nadine" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:41:20 EST From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: Stevie Wonder/now Joan Osborne--NJC Bob & Kate, Just my two cents BUT...Joan's latest ("How Sweet It Is") is a big disappointment to me---and I LOVE her! I mean, great song choices for sure, but I don't care for the forced 'vibe' I get of trying to make this one a hit. It's a bit too MOR---smooth and sanitized for me. Also, too many songs are swamped in horns, faux strings and background vocals, and I've never really cared much for the bland approach to production favored by a certain John Leventhal. Having said that, I HIGHLY recommend her previous release, "Righteous Love" (2000). It's 'harder,' edgier and much more challenging---and thus, at the same time, much more rewarding. As far as sales go, it bombed big time. Yet, I think it's the best record of her relatively short career. XXXOOO, Billy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:47:04 EST From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: downtown messiah/jane siberry - njc Wonderful close-encounter story regarding Jane Siberry! I loved "Maria" too. Anyway Patrick, thanks for sharing... XXXOOO, Billy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:17:00 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: For Free - Ick??? now njc --- chuty001 wrote: > what is Ick? It's a disease that fish get. That's what it means to me. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:21:38 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Christmas wishes njc http://www.nfb.ca/bestwishes ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:26:04 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #392 In a message dated 12/14/2002 3:00:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > From: Wtking59@cs.com > Subject: Detroit in '68 > > This is just an afterthought, but I'm wondering why Joni didn't choose to > change this line ("the last time I saw Richard was Detroit in '68 and he > told > me...") from T'Log to a more recent date (i.e., "Detroit in '88" or maybe > "Detroit in '98." However, "Detroit in '78" certainly wouldn't/doesn't > scan > right). > I mean, back when the song was originally released (in '71), the "Detroit > in > '68" line would have been only 2 or 3 years I'll bet the last time she did see Richard was Detroit in sixty-eight. I can't imagine her changing that line. Now when she say She's got a black limousine and sixteen gentlemen - - that makes sense. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:31:16 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #392 In a message dated 12/14/2002 3:00:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:55:51 -0800 > From: "kakki" > Subject: Re: Travelogue, touring and "painting" A Starry Night Again > > As an ear and eye witness to the event, she was actually being very > gracious > in light of the disruptors who stood out like sore thumbs in an otherwise > mellow concert. At the time, I only heard part of the heckling. A few > months ago I listened more intently to the "chatter" version of MOA and > could heard much more which I transcribed here for the list. Sounded like > a > bunch of people near the front row in full party mode (i.e. boisterously > inebriated) who were yelling "play [this and that] damn it!" After a long > time of this, Joni made her Starry Night remark and even the partiers were > cool with it. > > Kakki > What's the big deal with this remark? I think it was just Joni doing her chatting thing that she finally started to do in concerts. And then , don't forget - we were all just in the middle of our "getting to know the whole Joni" so she was introdcing this creative outlet (we got to hear her Jazz influences). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:48:13 -0800 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: opening line to "Richard" > The opening line to the "Last Time I Saw Richard" is perhaps the greatest > intro to any song ever and the idea of changing "68" is just inconceivable to > me. I think she should change it to..."The last time I saw Bob, the covers king, was in Atlanta in '98" Victor in Asheville - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson Look for the new album "Parsonage Lane" in March 2003 Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 08:53:27 -0800 From: "jeff t." Subject: Re: t-log/Laura Nyro >it's like a beautiful child of ten wearing mascara and blood-red >lipstick: >you spoil the freshness. for that kind of orchestration you >need a cole >porter lyric -- cool, urban, >perfectly built for THAT purpose -- or an opera aria, for god's sake. >the >way i see it, it seems as if joni were bleeding all over the >harps. when >you write something like amelia or otis and marlena, you >write it for a >totally >different kind of instrumental environment. wally k. Ok. Joni's lyrics, or poetry, or discourse, are represented by a pre adolescent girl. The orchestration is this girl's make-up, inappropriate, even vampish. Isn't that Amelia song about some woman's possibly epiphanic realization that her life held no real love? And isn't Marlena that travel drained socialite who hangs out down in Miami? And aren't analogies meant to represent truth? The metaphorical language of Amelia seems rather well suited to just this kind of instrumental environment. Were one to ask me.... Best regards, Jeff who has patiently, quietly, and generally enjoyably not missed a post for two weeks but now feels like a ten year old girl who needs to pee. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:28:00 -0000 From: "Adam Mulvey" Subject: Re: Azeem review/Kathryn Williams njc > It's already gone! I swapped it for new albums by Robert Plant (50-something > who knows his strengths and limitations and who's still trying new things) > and Kathryn Williams (superb young songwriter with a distinctive voice, > bursting with talent and vitality). Azeem is right - Kathryn Williams is one of the most talented new singer songwriters to come out of the UK for a very long time, and I would urge everyone on this list to try and beg borrow or steal bits of her music from somewhere. She's class in a glass. Trust me, you won't be disappointed. Adam ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 13:55:24 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: 3 volume Book on CSN&Y (NJC) Has anyone bought/read the 3-volume book on Crosby, Stills, Nash and sometimes Young? I am a fan, not huge, but certainly a fan, and it looks like a good read. But before I plunk down that sum of money, I was wondering if you thought it was worth it. Kakki, Paz, what has the scuttle butt been on the Lee Shore list about this set of books? Is is mostly for real die-hard fans who want to know every detail of this group? Thanks in advance for any info you all can give me. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:15:35 -0500 (EST) From: "walterphil" Subject: judi joni laura what else yes i agree reuben, "judith" marked a change in judy where she started to sing more flatly and a little passsionless. but the albums up till then are what i'm talking about. assured, fearless and groundbreaking. stong guitair strumming and a fierce altro. there is a lot of good work there in those 10 or 12 lps. and as for you billy... of couse you're right in a way. i do really like "tin angel," especially the bleeker st. cafe part. its just that i'd wished she would have fleshed it out a bit more musically. "for free" tho, i've alway had problems with. even joni tacked on that "for a pretty good salary" bit because i think she just couldn't sing "for freee eee eee" one more time. so billy, i'm jealous that you call "new york tendaberry" your all time favorite. i want to-- (its in my top 10)-- but the best? hmmm. very brave. i want to and i'm jealous, but where does that leave "for the roses?" number 2, i guess, and i can't deal with that either. one more thing. how jealous am i of someone who is currently digging "eli" and hasn't heard "tendaberry" yet? i can cut the suspense with a knife! the best friggin album of all time, indeed. please no more defending billy. please. just the mention of his name gets me gaggin. when i'm in cvs and they start playing "bottle of red," there is no place to hide. you will see a grown man cry. (ok ok i admit i have a "my life" single floating around the apartment some where.) and mariah...have you ever heard "daydream interlude?" i'm sorry, but its sheer dance floor magic. a perfect 12." addmittedly thats an exception, but it is why i have faith that she will do something good one day. she's got the chops. she just needs a producer with taste. xxx walt The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:31:28 -0000 From: "joe farrell" Subject: re gemma hayes Hi Steve, I agree with you about Gemma Hayes. Superb new talent, saw her in Manchester in October and she was brilliant. Prior to seeing her i'd played the album to death. Regards, Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:10:42 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: headphone tips NJC In a message dated 12/14/02 5:16:55 AM, ink08@hotmail.com writes: >Looking back on his career as a writer and musician I really think that >future generations will talk Pat Metheny in the same way as we talk now >of Miles, Coltrane, and Parker. 'Speaking of Now' has to be my album of >the year. I really think you should listen to it (copyright Fred Simon). >Does music get any better? (ditto) This is all true, every word. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:45:03 -0500 From: "chuty001" Subject: Mojo NJC jmdl content Anybody seen the new Mojo Mag ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:00:15 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: The Circle Game As A Song About The Biz in a way the circle game is a song about the cd biz. Those one night stands shaped as circles, those poker chips that you forget the next day you bought them. "we can't return we can only look behind from where we came and go round and round and round..." - the artists being locked like a mad beast inside a plastic cirlce called cd's, unable to release itself from it, or from the industry which joni has decided to leave. the child in the song is the one who's free to dream, but he may only do so when joni sings. that's just my new way to look at why joni has chosen this song to end her recordings. love, nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:17:41 -0500 From: "chuty001" Subject: Re: Mojo NJC jmdl content - ----- Original Message ----- From: "chuty001" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: Mojo NJC jmdl content > Anybody seen the new Mojo Mag > http://www.geocities.com/thatstrangesite/JMDLinMojo.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 23:31:03 +0000 From: colin Subject: Find me....njc .... a man please Mags. Must love dogs. Must have his own home to go back to on weekends and holidays. Must be good at house work. Must be good at cooking(low carb). Must know how to groom dogs well. Must even tempered.Must NOT nag. oh to hell with with it-find me a house keeper. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:41:15 -0500 From: "Jim Leonard" Subject: a quick hello, and misc. Hello JMDLers, I re-subbed a couple of weeks ago to see what everyone was saying about T'log It's been difficult to keep up with all the posts! When I last was subbed to the digest there was about a third of the current volume, I think. I've had my copy since about a week after the release date, but have only managed to hear it once through. It's not that I didn't like it (I'm not sure what I think of it yet - I admit to being a bit taken aback by the further deterioration of Joni's voice), it's just that I have very little listening time available in my life these days. I keep buying albums, so maybe I'll get to check them out when I retire. :) I will say this for T'log - even during only that one listen I could tell that a lot of thought had been given to the sequencing of the songs. That's what stood out to me. It seemed as if every song was "connected," in some way, to the preceding song ... sometimes thematically, sometimes in another way. Billy Joel was phenomenal in the mid-to-late '70s. I haven't cared for his albums since An Innocent Man (and I only liked parts of that), but I agree with Bob M. that Turnstiles, The Stranger and 52nd Street are classics. Turnstiles, especially, was a mindblower. I got to see Billy in a small club in Boston (Pauls' Mall ... anyone remember it?) just about the time Turnstiles was released in 1976 and it was an incredible show. I was sorry to see that Mark in Seattle is going to unsub, at least for a while. His were my favorite posts during my days as a JMDL subscriber. I hope he hurries back to you. Just droppin' in to say hi and to weigh in on the latest. Happy holidays! Boston Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:38:52 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Mojo NJC jmdl content In a message dated 12/14/02 6:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, chuty001@hotmail.com writes: > http://www.geocities.com/thatstrangesite/JMDLinMojo.jpg > That is so cool Chuck. Mags Holden-Gross *is* an ambassador of love. Mags, did you know about this article? Is the author of this story a jmdler? Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 16:03:47 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Find me....njc rofl!!!! Mags colin wrote:.... a man please Mags. Must love dogs. Must have his own home to go back to on weekends and holidays. Must be good at house work. Must be good at cooking(low carb). Must know how to groom dogs well. Must even tempered.Must NOT nag. oh to hell with with it-find me a house keeper. You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:14:45 -0000 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: Detroit in '68 How is the figure skater? STEVE > I know you meant Chuck Mitchell whom I've always assumed Richard was but > the last time I saw her was Toronto thurs Oct 29 1998 and she told me...:-) > > Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 23:40:45 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Note for future Here is an idea. When joni has a new release we have a filter like NJC but in this case Tlog. That way we get just the post that deal with the album. Also Volume 10 of KGSR (Jody Denberg is the GM) is out. They put out a new one every year. It is two cd's of studio performances that artist do during the year. Their big week is SXSW. Good stuff check it out. The only problem is that is locally sold. www.kgsr.com I am tired of seeing people leave the list. I know for my sake it was personal but it seems when people leave it is always something with the the note that something was said or that somebody was to negative. Things have really changed since you first started the list. peace, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:48:49 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #564 Statue $$$$$$$$$ I> Subject: Joni statue UPDATE To whomever is organizing the Joni Beside Herself fundraising -- when the time is right, perhaps it might be worthwhile asking Paul Allen for some dollars (Paul Allen: Microsoft co-founder, multi-billionaire, entrepeneur, founder of the Experience Music Project, etc. etc.).....he has more than one charitable foundation and I read on his web site once (or somewhere) that Shadows and Light is in his top ten favorites list. If the statue project has 501c3 status (or the Canadian equivalent) or an afiliation with such an organization, it will help with fundraising. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 21:49:19 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Travolgue on the shelf I'm back everyone. I've put Travelogue aside for a while. I find it's getting very heavy, almost like a burden that's been carried for far too long. I need some freshness and lightness for a while - Sisotowbel Lane always cheers me up, as does Night In The City. Anyhow, I'm back online. Cheers, Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:24:25 -0500 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: I gone and done it...email change Hi Everyone! Okay so I finally set up my own email account since I moved and here it is, if anyone wanted to know! You can get me here from now on...hopefully I remembered to change all the right things...lol. Love Nikki "Ever since I was a baby girl the one thing I wanted most in this world was to keep my love alive..." ~ Heart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 02:00:59 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 15 On December 15 the following items were published: 1994: "Question and Answer: Joni Mitchell" - Rolling Stone (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=19 1994: "Turbulent Indigo" - Rolling Stone (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=290 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 02:19:31 EST From: Fauchja@aol.com Subject: Re: Mojo NJC jmdl content yes Fauchja.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 02:19:38 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: downtown messiah - njc but jane siberry content thank you all for all the nice comments about my post. it was written very late last night, a little drunk, and it seemed very incoherent at the time. i never reread it until this afternoon, so i was happy to find it unembarassing... one joni-lurker asked permission to post it on the dar williams list, which i agreed to. i remember thinking during the show how i wanted to write about each musical moment, but i was too tired late last night (and i'm too lazy, now). did want to say to bob that david johanson didn't do his song in folk-style at all, it was more like delta blues, with banjo and guitar. he looked a little wasted (and his look is bearded, moustached, very late-sixties) and the wasted may have been an act, but my friend christopher commented that it was always nerve-racking seeing if he was going to come in on time. still, very effective, and his voice was just right for it. martha redbone, a very attractive young black woman with a great r&b voice, took the first solo. i mentioned earlier how intriguing it was to hear handel sung with such a contemporary tone. after singing the verse, she ended up scatting with randy brecker on trumpet. no more to say about it. patrick, posting late again, after seeing my first opera by anyone named strauss, 'electra', with deborah voight, rene pape and, completely amazing as electra, gabriele schnaut. np - ariadne auf naxos >david johanson >(truly bizarre, and kind of wonderful), jane (just perfect on 'if >god be for >us, who can be against us'), ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #569 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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