From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #532 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, November 30 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 532 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The Dipping of Summer Prawns [Gordon Mackie ] Re: desserts in Canada NJC [FredNow@aol.com] Re: desserts in Canada NJC [colin ] RE: desserts in Canada NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #531 [Andrew Jones ] Re: BBC Joni on CMT ["chuty001" ] Re: BBC Joni on CMT [Rick and Susan ] travelogue price [jop ] A Case of Joni? What's the deal? [Little Bird ] Passion Play [Little Bird ] BBC JONI [] (NJC) Joni on the moon [FMYFL@aol.com] OOPS! [] RE: desserts in Canada NJC [Mags N Brei ] Re: Passion Play ["Erica L. Trudelle" ] You Dream Flat Tires ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: BBC Joni on CMT [Randy Remote ] Re: "Penitence of Spirit" [Randy Remote ] RE: desserts in Canada NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: "Penitence of Spirit" [Mags N Brei ] Re: travelogue price [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: A Case of Joni? What's the deal? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Passion Play [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: BBC JONI [Rick and Susan ] Re: Passion Play [Little Bird ] Re: desserts in Canada NJC [colin ] Re: Passion Play njc [colin ] Re: desserts in Canada NJC [colin ] RE: desserts in Canada NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: desserts in Canada NJC [colin ] FAQs for New JMDLers [vince ] Re: Passion Play njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Christmas list ["michael o'malley" ] Goldie's "Carey" [Relayer211@aol.com] CRITICISM [] Today in History: November 30 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: November 30 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:02:30 +0000 From: Gordon Mackie Subject: The Dipping of Summer Prawns Hi All Again this has probably been covered but its my belief, based on nothing other than making it up, that Joni's next album will be an orchestral re-working of Hissing of Summer Lawns. It's obvious ...isn't it? Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 05:32:48 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: desserts in Canada NJC Mags N Brei writes: >or ginger bread (which >isnt bread at all, it's cake) with a glop of vanilla ice cream on it which >of course melts some because the ginger thingity is warm out of the oven I'll have that, please. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:54:06 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: desserts in Canada NJC Mags N Brei wrote: > wah wah honey, how do you pronouce scones? LIke "phones" ? > scahns ... say it like that ;-) almost like a yawn but not qoit > xo > > here people say scone like phone or like ON with the sc in front. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 06:46:53 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: desserts in Canada NJC --- Mags N Brei wrote: > > wah wah honey, how do you pronouce scones? LIke > "phones" ? > scahns ... say it like that ;-) almost like a yawn > but not qoit > xo That's one of those words I've seen in writing, but have never heard pronounced. I would have rhymed it with phones too - why not? We didn't eat them in my house. Are those the things that are kind of like English muffins but with airholes in them? Or are those crumpets? Never mind. The English language is just too weird. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 13:37:08 +0000 From: Andrew Jones Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #531 > Two review questions: > 1. Who loves you guys? My Mum > > > 2. In his review for the Jazz world's "Downbeat Magazine", how many > stars, > out of 5 possible, did Leonard Feather give the "MINGUS" album? 35 astrixes Next question? Andrew Jonews ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 05:41:58 -0800 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Re: desserts in Canada NJC Mmmmm...scones. I remember dragging Alison all over Manhattan during the minifest last year in a quest for lemon curd... an absolute must for dipping your bakery fresh scone in. We finally found some at a British import boutique. I've always thought of them as a breakfast thang. Hot blueberry scones with warm lemon curd, a hot cup of joe and the Sunday New York Times made for my kind of Chelsea Morning. Life's simple pleasures are the best... - -Julius > --- Mags N Brei wrote: > > > wah wah honey, how do you pronouce scones? > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:36:57 -0500 From: "chuty001" Subject: Re: BBC Joni on CMT She didn't look 30 in the least. Laughed allot even during the tunes. Sounded great. I didn't see a date on it but I don't think Blue was out yet, though she did do California about 15 min in. Afterward she said she'd love to sing for another hour but had strained her voice. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael o'malley" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:11 PM > Subject: BBC Joni on CMT > > > > The BBC Joni concert show aired on TV tonight. Joni solo in a London > studio > > with a small audience, doing some of her early 70's songs. For those who > > haven't seen the images, she's about 30 years old, dressed in a peachy > pink > > silk granny gown - ankle length, simple cloth belt at the waist, short > > sleeves, crochet and lace neckline, turquoise jewelry, straight > waist-length > > hair. Very demure, poised and mellow, looking like a Danish princess. Not > a > > line on her face, next to no make-up, a hint of a tan, the same sleek > > silhouette we remember from the pool shot on HOSL. What color are Joni"s > eyes? > > Anyone? Grey? They're not light blue. > > > > The set > > Chelsea morning - guitar > > Cactus tree - guitar > > For free - piano > > California - dulcimer > > Big yellow taxi - guitar > > Both sides now - guitar > > > > The audience recognized and applauded each of the last two songs as she > > started them. Very little patter, lots of broad smiles. A beautiful little > > show. > > > > Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:20:32 -0800 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: BBC Joni on CMT > ----- Original Message ----- >> The BBC Joni concert show aired on TV tonight. Joni solo in a London studio >> with a small audience, doing some of her early 70's songs The year was 1971. This half hour concert was a portion of the Pink Dress Concert that is sometimes available on trading lists. The original tape has a broadcast master editing clock ticking away at the top of the screen and it's apparent from the non-sequential numbers that the original concert is well over an hour long. . >>> For those who haven't seen the images, she's about 30 years old, 27 or 28 in 1971. >>> The set >>> Chelsea morning - guitar >>> Cactus tree - guitar >>> For free - piano >>> California - dulcimer >>> Big yellow taxi - guitar >>> Both sides now - guitar The longer version includes her between-songs patter which was typical of Joni at the time: long rambling stories, lots of giggling, an air of vulnerability and shyness. The quality was superb and it was a wonderful treat to see the Joni I fell in love with all those years ago. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:23:35 +0200 From: jop Subject: travelogue price hi. travelogue arrived in my town (turku, finland) today. i found a real bargain price in a little store, one and only copy for 23.50 e ($23), and in fact thought it must be erroneous - but another shop has a small stock for 22.90 e. i think this is quite strange, as cd's tend to be quite pricey here. all are u.s. nonesuch copies, btw. - --jussi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:49:04 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: A Case of Joni? What's the deal? Hi all - I'm looking for any information about what happened to the "A Case of Joni" tribute album that is apparently finished and sitting in some vault somewhere. Does anyone know why it was shelved? Is it going to be released at some point? If so, what are they waiting for? Any info would be greatly appreciated. - -Andrew in Ottawa Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:50:43 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Passion Play I would love to hear people's thoughts on "Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free)" particularly the lyrics. What exactly is this song about? It seems to me to be a quasi love song/protest song but I'd love to hear some interpretations if you are so inclined. - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:33:25 -0500 From: Subject: BBC JONI Caught the Joan on the old boob tube, too. The BBC concert. What struck me was how shy and nervous and delicate she seemed. And what was really strange (with all this talk about her voice) was that after two or three songs her voice started to go (she even said, I'd love to stay another hour but the pipes are going). She was having trouble venturing up into that stratospheric soprrano (the popular Joni yodel effect) -- seemed more comfortable in the lower range. Was that high voice a "false" falsetto all along? And was singing so high, straining so, the real culprit (of course the cigs didn't help).? I think it was. By the time she did BSN, she was really cracking -- and seemed upset at the end, taking her bows. Who knows. Maybe she boarded a plane for B.C. soon after -- to begin the first of her many retirements. This would've been after BLUE was released (she did a heartbreaking A CASE OF YOU). P.S. As I write this, I'm haunted by the swirling strings of the new version of HEJIRA. Wow. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:43:02 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: (NJC) Joni on the moon I read that TransOrbital Inc., a company out of San Diego signed a contract with Moscow's International space company Kosmotras. They plan on flying the first private mission to the moon next year, delivering messages, cremated remains, and other cargo in a capsule which will survive the crash. (all for a fee of course) So should we pool our money and send "Hejira" or "FTR," so Joni will have the first CD on the moon? Of course the fee is $2500 per gram ..........I guess that's a little costly...............better wait a few years ;~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:49:55 -0500 From: Subject: OOPS! Re the BBC: I'm WRONG. She didn't do a heartbreaking CASE, she did a heartbreaking CALIFORNIA. With dulcimer. You just wanted to HUG her, poor sensitive thing. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:21:08 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: RE: desserts in Canada NJC Wally Kairuz wrote: <<>> yes i *can* bake sc-ons (thank you Colin and Les ;) that is how I meant it to sound..just couldnt write it cyberly. although I havent in ages and ages. Whipped cream...mmmm interesting! That would go well with Fred Simon's ginger bread too. Magshushkja. (wondering how much whipped cream you'd have to consume in order to be able to pronounce that one ;-). as per Smurph's moose comment...as long as it is chocolate, that's all that matters. and Julian, I'll take tea with mine thanks. M. You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 13:31:35 -0500 From: "Erica L. Trudelle" Subject: Re: Passion Play I'm sure other people here can give you a more definite answer, but I read (here) that Joni was possibly inspired to write "Passion Play" after attending an actual Passion Play (which I think is recreation of sorts having to do with Jesus' death) Don't hold me to that, I just remember some other listers mentioning it within the last 6 months. I was just listening to this song about 20 minutes ago, I love it!!!! "who you gonna get to do the dirty work when all the slaves are free......." it's a timeless line that works on so many levels.....oh and I love when she calls Jesus a "magical physician" (I am reading a book in which someone calls the Dalai Lama a "spiritual physician", it made me think of that lyric) Hope this helps some what. Erica NP: "For Free" I would love to hear people's thoughts on "Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free)" particularly the lyrics. What exactly is this song about? It seems to me to be a quasi love song/protest song but I'd love to hear some interpretations if you are so inclined. - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:34:58 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: You Dream Flat Tires i agree, this version is great! this was the song i said i'd take out (when we volunteered our suggestions before hearing the cd) & replace it with blue...i wouldn't take it out now that i've heard it, but i still long to hear a new version of blue... after listening again yesterday on our t'day drive, i'd say this record does swing & it does groove at times...not all the time but sometimes most definately... >>BTW, that Rolling Stone review about Travelogue not "swinging" is just so dumb. Must all music swing? Another review said "it's hard to remember that Joni used to swing." << ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:38:31 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: BBC Joni on CMT michael o'malley wrote: > What color are Joni"s eyes? > Anyone? Grey? They're not light blue. From Travelogue: You laugh, he said You think you're immune Go look at your eyes They're two blue moons ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:42:06 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: "Penitence of Spirit" Surely this is the biggest Joni news of the past 10 years. What songs did she do on the piano? Or was it all improv? Expiring minds want to know.... Mags N Brei wrote: > she already did, at the Hommage in Toronto last October (2001). .. she sat at the piano and just.........played. It was glorious. And I have witnesses !!!! just ask Ashara, Stephen, JJ, Jimmy, Coyote Rick, SteveNPearl, StevieP (oh yea she played because he asked her to ;-).... anyway..you get the picture....we were there....we saw/heard her on the piano and it was the best...the best. And if you have any doubt about Joni on the piano or anything else that happened that evening...just ask Janine...that is, if she's recovered yet. ;-) > > Mags ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:56:04 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: desserts in Canada NJC i now realize that i left my lemon curd jar at stephen's in vancouver! lemon curd is the joni mitchell of spreads and fillings. wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Julius Raymond Enviado el: Viernes, 29 de Noviembre de 2002 10:42 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: desserts in Canada NJC Mmmmm...scones. I remember dragging Alison all over Manhattan during the minifest last year in a quest for lemon curd... > --- Mags N Brei wrote: > > > wah wah honey, how do you pronouce scones? > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:57:18 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: "Penitence of Spirit" In response to the story of Joni playing piano at the Hommage in Toronto last October, Randy Remote wrote: <<>> my turn: It was...absolutely stunning. I dont really remember the exact lead into her doing so...however, I will never forget how it felt to be there, listening. Joni asked us if we wanted her to play piano....was she kidding!!!! No question!!!! She smiled and walked over to the piano...and yes, she played...improv for lack of a better word. She moved us to the core with her ability to paint images and mood and feelings...it was incredible. And she said her piano chops were rusty! NOT!!! She was brilliant. Steve Polifka, Brian and I kept looking at each other in total disbelief and there were tears in the eyes of everyone around us too. A night to remember always. Mags. You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 14:23:43 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: travelogue price In a message dated 11/29/2002 11:24:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, jop@surfeu.fi writes: > i found > a real bargain price in a little store, Good news Jussi! Let us know what you think after you drive it around the block a couple of times. Bob NP: Dave Stewart/Barbara Gaskin: "Amelia" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 14:30:27 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: A Case of Joni? What's the deal? Hi Andrew, There's no real news about this tribute CD...all the recordings are in the can, just sitting there waiting for...whatever. Of course, if you're looking for Joni tribute cd's, I've only got about 50+ to share, and if you don't have Pazfest, Big Yellow Taxi, Moon At The Window, these are all worthy of your time. A couple of these "Case of Joni" recordings are already on the street. I saw where Bjork just released a box set of rarities, I immediately looked to see if "Boho Dance" was on it, but no such luck. Not that I'm overly anxious to her Bjork sing anything, mind you...but to her credit, nobody else has tackled Boho Dance yet so I'd love to hear it on that level alone. Bob NP: Roger McGuinn, "Dreamland" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:06:45 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Passion Play Yeah, we've had some pretty good discussions about this one in the past, some parts of this song are pretty black and white in terms of their interpretation & others are real gray...anyway, here's my blow by blow fwiw: "Magdalene is trembling Like a washing on a line Trembling and gleaming Never before was a man so kind Never so redeeming" the term Magdalene refers to a woman from the area of Magdala. This could be a reference to Mary Magdalene, or it could be a reference to the woman who was caught in the act of adultery and about to be stoned, and Jesus told the crowd that "whoever of you is without sin can cast the first stone", which of course dispersed the crowd and would have left the woman in awe as well as trembling. This was also a case where the Pharisees were trying to trip Jesus up & he foiled them. "I am up a sycamore Looking through the leaves A sinner of some position Who in the world can this heart healer be This magical physician" This is a reference to Zaccheus the tax collector, a small man who had to climb a sycamore tree to see Jesus as he passed. Jesus noticed him in the tree, called him down, had dinner with him, and so converted Zaccheus' spirit that he returned the monies he had conned people out of. "Enter the multitudes The walking wounded They come to this diver of the heart of the multitudes Thy kingdom come Thy will be done" This always reminds me of the scene in Jesus Christ Superstar where Jesus can hardly move for the people grabbing on to him, in search of healing for their disablility...but it could just be a simple reference to the Sermon on the Mount, where Jesus preached to the multitudes and where he teaches the Lord's Prayer to the crowd (Matthew 6: 9-13). "Oh climb down climb down he says to me From the middle of unrest They think is light is squandered But he sees a stray in the wilderness And I see how far I've wandered" This verse seems to simply state that the person singing the song is seeking the same direction and/or redemption as the biblical characters that Jesus interacted with in the beginnings of the song. I wouldn't go so far as saying that it's *Joni* stating this as she's not prone to so openly embrace Christianity. (Matter of fact, given her earlier musical references to Jesus & The Bible, this song has always stuck out like a sore thumb to me). "Oh all around the marketplace The buzzing of the flies The buzzing and the stinging Divinely barren And wickedly wise The killer nails are ringing" Divinely Barren - wickedly wise to me describes the Pharisees, the "holy men" who were threatened by Jesus power over the "slaves" who were doing the dirty work of the day, and were kept in place by the Pharisees enforcing of religion as law rather than love. The "killer nails" refer to the crucifixion of Jesus. OK, so that leaves us with the chorus, which to me is a bit more puzzling... "Enter the multitudes In Exxon blue In radiation rose" Could refer to the colors of the costumes of those in a modern-day passion play...could be equating the "slaves" of Jesus' day to the people who are employed in the gas & nuclear industries...could mean something else entirely! Then you get the 4-word chain: "Ecstasy - Misery - Apathy - Tragedy" Which for me breaks down Jesus' fulfillment of his mission on Earth...the early ecstasy of the miracles, healing, preachings, etc. with his ministry. The Misery of his capture & treatment (crown of thorns, etc) by Herod & the Romans, the Apathy of the crowd as they turned on Jesus and commanded that the prisoner Barrabas be set free and supported the crucifixion, and ending in the Tragedy of his death on the cross, killed not just out of the fear of the jealous leaders but also from those who betrayed him like Judas & Peter. "Now you tell me Who you gonna get to do the dirty work When all the slaves are free? (Who're you gonna get)" Again, this closing part of the song descibes the rationalization that drove the Pharisees to act as swiftly as they did, when they realized that the masses were being awakened and changed. That's my take on it....like I say, for what it's worth. Bob NP: The Bird Sisters, "Woodstock" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:47:48 -0800 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: BBC JONI On 11/29/02 9:33 AM, mtotzke@gosympatico.ca wrote > Caught the Joan on the old boob tube, too. The > BBC concert. > > And what was really > strange (with all this talk about her voice) > was that after two or three songs her voice > started to go (she even said, I'd love to stay > another hour but the pipes are going). She was > having trouble venturing up into that stratospheric > soprrano (the popular Joni yodel effect) -- > seemed more comfortable in the > lower range. Was that high voice a "false" > falsetto all along? And was singing so high, > straining so, the real culprit (of course the > cigs didn't help).? I think it was. > > By the time she did BSN, she was really > cracking -- and seemed upset at the end, > taking her bows. In the unedited version, Joni says that she has a cold, hence the strained sounding voice. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 13:17:39 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: Passion Play Thanks to Bob and Erica for their input on Passion Play. Any more contributors? ( I had no idea it contained any biblical references at all! Never went to Sunday school...) - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 00:46:52 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: desserts in Canada NJC Wally Kairuz wrote: >i now realize that i left my lemon curd jar > mmm.....and Marmiite/Vegemite btw scones are traditionally eaten with strawberry jam and fresh cream. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 00:49:38 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Passion Play njc > to the woman who >was caught in the act of adultery and about to be stoned, and Jesus told the >crowd that "whoever of you is without sin can cast the first stone", which of >course dispersed the crowd > except for one woman who came to the front of the crowd and chucked a huge rock at the adulteress. Jesus is reputed to have said to this woman'you don't half piss me off, mother'. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 00:55:49 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: desserts in Canada NJC colin wrote: > > > Julius Raymond wrote: > >> Mmmmm...scones. I've always thought of them as a breakfast thang. > > nope. not here anyway. they are a traditonal afternoon tea thang. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 22:08:25 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: desserts in Canada NJC lemon curd ain't one of those things, colin. it's a million egg yolks mixed with lemon zest and very very very deliciously unhealthy other stuff. as a matter of fact, in england i used to know it as *lemon cheese* and i ate it on toast for breakfast. this was in newmarket, near cambridge, where i stayed a while in 1980 with the chief of police and his wife. their last name was grime, which always gave me the giggles. i eat my scones with cream. period. and i rhymed scone with phone. it was the conservative RP influence. wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: colin [mailto:colin@tantra-apso.com] Enviado el: Viernes, 29 de Noviembre de 2002 09:47 p.m. Para: Wally Kairuz CC: Julius Raymond; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: desserts in Canada NJC Wally Kairuz wrote: >i now realize that i left my lemon curd jar > mmm.....and Marmiite/Vegemite btw scones are traditionally eaten with strawberry jam and fresh cream. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 01:21:32 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: desserts in Canada NJC Wally Kairuz wrote: >lemon curd ain't one of those things, colin. > I think you misunderstood my post, Wally. I know what lemon curd is and lemon curd is what it is called here in the UK. And you are correct, it is yummy stuff! > > > > > >Wally Kairuz wrote: > > > >>i now realize that i left my lemon curd jar >> >> >> >mmm.....and Marmiite/Vegemite >btw scones are traditionally eaten with strawberry jam and fresh cream. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 20:26:57 -0500 From: vince Subject: FAQs for New JMDLers with the new members recently joining, perhaps it is time for the New Member FAQ. The questioner is that fool Vince who after being here then for 3 years didn't know a thing. The answers are supplied by experienced JMDLer Randy Remote. (this was originally posted in April 2001) Q: what does SIQUOMB mean? A: It's an acronym for "Stop Imposing Questions Unto Other Mortal Beings" It's from an unpublished opera by Joni Q: what is Joni's best album? A: the Hissing Missing Mingus sessions demos, which no one but JM and Henry Lewy have ever heard Q: What is a tape tree? A: Didn't your parents sit down and talk with you about this stuff? Q: is everyone in here really straight? A: See above Q: are all members really Republicans? A: Of course! Except the dirty little commies... Q: is George W. Bush a member of the JMDL? (Can George W. even spell "JMDL"?) A: I think you answered that one yourself. Q: What does NJC mean? A: I can't remember, nor can anyone else... Q: What does NP mean? A: Nordic Poultry in the US....Navigational Polymetry everywhere else. Q: Is Joni a member? N: To paraphrase Groucho, I wouldn't want to be part of a group that would allow me to be a member. Q: Is everyone always friendly here? (I am easily bruised.) A: Yes, except for full moons, Saturdays, and Joni's Witness holidays. Q: Has there ever been a tribute concert for Larry Klein, or at least a tribute album made to honor Dog Eat Dog? A: No, but I understand Klein himself is making a tribute album for his dog. Q: Will anyone here try to make me their dancing clown? (I hope not, I scare easily.) A: Geez, you are sensitive! You'll never last here. Now that I think of it, the only dancing clown I've ever seen was at the rodeo. Q: I have this wonderful idea: why not have a New England gathering every labor day of all the Joni fans? A: I'm sorry to be blunt, but that is a stupid idea and no one will ever go for it. Q: Or maybe, someone could collect all the covers of Joni's songs and put them on a cd or two. A: I'm not sure you could even fill a CD. Using the CD's as covers for pots and pans might work, though. Q; Anyway, just my suggestions. I hope to be a happy member of the JMDL! I'm so nervous to see if anyone welcomes me, or tells me to go to heck (naughty words are never used in here, right?), A: If you are going to be that way, then go to heck! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 22:45:01 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Passion Play njc --- colin wrote: > > to the woman who > >was caught in the act of adultery and about to be > stoned, and Jesus told the > >crowd that "whoever of you is without sin can cast > the first stone", which of > >course dispersed the crowd > > > except for one woman who came to the front of the > crowd and chucked a > huge rock at the adulteress. > Jesus is reputed to have said to this woman'you > don't half piss me off, > mother'. LOL, you blasphemer, you! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:18:51 -0500 From: "michael o'malley" Subject: Re: Christmas list Just a footnote to Lama's list, I'd add The JM Companion, edited by Stacey Luftig (Schirmer Books, NY 2000). This 286-page book has lots of great articles about Joni's work over the years and some interviews with Joni. I found this to be a much more informative read than Shadows and Light. Go for it! Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 00:30:27 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Goldie's "Carey" I was in Tower Records recently and I saw a CD of Goldie Hawn from the early 70's.I've never heard it.(or any music from Goldie for that matter.)On the CD is Goldie's version of "Carey".Has anyone heard it? Is it any good? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 1:07:44 -0500 From: Subject: CRITICISM Earlier, I was browsing a Joni site I'd never been to, which included a lot of album reviews. And it struck me, as it has in the past, that it isn't the fact that music critics (mostly male) don't like some stuff (they're entitled; and I dont like DED or CMIARS much, myself) that upsets me -- its the VITRIOL with which they attack Joni. What is it about her that brings this out in reviewers? I'm still thinking this through. I have my theories, but I'd like to know yours. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 02:02:00 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: November 30 1981: Joni hosted a jam session at her New York apartment with Jaco Pastorius, Michael Brecker, Bobby Mintzer, Don Alias and Peter Erskine. It was the night before Jaco's 30th Birthday Concert and they were running through some of the music. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 02:02:00 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: November 30 On November 30 the following items were published: 1985: "Joni Mitchell" - New Musical Express (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=661 1985: "Mitchell's new LP reflects her anger" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=744 1998: "Eric, Joni, Others In Homeless Benefit" - Billboard (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=437 - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #532 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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