From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #491 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 15 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 491 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits [Susan Guzzi ] Re: DED njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: DED njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits [Murphycopy@aol.com] RE: What Nonesuch Records is trying to say.... ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)] Joni Mitchell, Stevie Nicks, Sheryl Crow, Trisha Yearwood Sing For Walden Woods [Les Irvin ] RE: What Nonesuch Records is trying to say....NJC [Mags N Brei ] Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits now NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] RE: What Nonesuch Records is trying to say....NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lam] Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits now NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] re:djrd cover ["mia ortlieb" ] hooray! njc ["Kate Bennett" ] thinking of women and Joni ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: What Nonesuch Records is trying to say.... ["Moni Kellermann" ] Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits ["kakki" ] Re: vanilla ice vs eminem [FredNow@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:17:10 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits lol susan! i am right there dreaming with you...i know joni has earned the right to never write again after all of the remarkable songs she has given us..but oh how the world needs to hear her voice in song right now...we need to hear the voice of the person who many of us consider the greatest songwriter our generation has ever known & we need to hear her voice in all of its beautiful wisdom & maturity... since when did she ever let the biz dictate what she did! why should she let it get to her now? how better to spit into that dark cesspool than to write & record & release a record outside of the biz!!!! a simple one, voice & instrument....new songs...it would be a sure fire hit... susan, i think we need to have a chat over lunch with joni...kakki, do you think you could arrange this? lol... come to think of it...how many albums has she written when she goes on a retreat? hmmm...blue! hmmm...for the roses! hmmm....hejira! susan >>In fact if Joni did walk away in this dramatic fashion and went off and took to the refuge of the roads or went to Amsterdam or Rome or took a walk a park a bridge a tree a river - well you get the picture ... perhaps she could get inspired to write some new material about the twighlight of her career or life. Then secretly hide away in a studio and record everything her way and play with it and tweak it and ... Voila! The come back kid with plenty of fanfare and press - OH Joni let me handle this for you! It will be the biggest marketing scheme since New Coke! You may say I'm a dreamer ...<<< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:09:03 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Stormy Weather - Walden Woods II > Thanks, Hell - that is the song. Reading the lyrics, it almost sounds like > he could have written it about Joni. Or I wonder if she likes it because > she identifies with it? > > >> What's a sweetheart like you doin' in a dump like this? > > Maybe I've been reading too many of the Joni against the music biz "rants" > but I can see the metaphor here. ;-) > > Kakki I was thinking the same thing when I read it, Kakki. Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:11:08 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Who's breasts are they anyway? 100% JC With the LP jacket in hand..studying like a good student..Art is calling the doves making them fly away...to finally reveal who is the naked lady. ( for Art and the sweet little innocent to Joni's left eyes only) Next clue: Get out your HOSL LP.. open it to reveal Joni in pool....shape the same...Joni's arms look very similar to the mysterious naked woman on DJRD. Follow-up: Would Joni wear a picture of a naked lady on her dress other than herself? Every woman has a certain way she carries herself..walks..poses..carriage.... stands.. that is all her own!! Next get out Joni Mitchell's ..Complete Poems and Lyrics...the stance..shape...HER ARMS...all points to naked woman on the dress. Not the breasts..but the arms tells it all!! Bree...who would not part with these two vinyls for all the tea in China or Twinkies in your pantry!! >I know boobs when I see 'em and there are two! Did we ever resolve whether >it's a model or uhmmm... the artist herself? It may be small on a CD >"coverlet" but there's nothing ambiguous about it on the LP jacket. > >Lama > >PS, Is Art doing magic? I think he's pulling doves out of something. Is >that what everyone else sees too or is it some kind of ink-blot test? > > >np: "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns" on primo Japanese vinyl. I've died and >gone to heaven. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:25:09 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: I wanna bare bones album What if Joni did a barebones project. Just one instrument and voice. No production. Just one project that's just demo-like simplicity. Would you buy it? That's what I'm hoping for...just one more Joni, please...good new songs with a small, tight band. Bass, drums, guitars and maybe piano. That's it. No synth, no strings and, dare I say, no Shorter. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:27:45 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits Susan writes: << I'm very susceptible to twins ... then what'll we do? >> Like insanity, twins run in my family, too! If we have twins, I suggest we name them: Edith and Amelia (if they're girls) Blue and Green (if they're one of each) Willy and Carey (boys) Let me know when your eggs are in danger of their freshness date running out. We can do this, Susan! XO, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:32 -0600 From: Franklin Shea Subject: njc a note of gratitude? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:16:10 -0800 From: "jeff t." Subject: Hi Franklin Jeff wrote> Thanks for the tip on LA Cowboy. I reread your post of Friday, November 8th and sure enough, the road to LA is clearly mapped out. Now I see you are one of only five people given "Special Thanks" on LA's homepage. You must have done something truly special to warrant this honor. Please, withhold for just a moment your modesty and share this accolade with us. Thank you. Sincerely, Jeff Franklin> Hey Jeff, kudos for your investigative savvy. Even I DIDN'T know I was listed on that "special thanks" section. (LOL) When I took your cue and "investigated" myself, I did note that Brooke Kreiger, one of the finest "lead god" guitar players in the upper midwest was "thanked" just above me. Note, I was the last "thanks". I know Brooke through attendance at numerous concerts he performs throughout the area. One night I asked him if he had heard of L.A. Cowboy. Feeling sympathetic to his negative reply, I went out to my car and gave him one of my treasured (signed, no less) CDs to review. End of story. Or so I thought. Upon further inquiry (I e-mailed the contact button at http://www.reconcilerecords.com) I discovered my hitherto unbeknownst "honor", buried in the back and immediately sent an inquiry (via their "contact" button as to WHY?) Sue Stark, Label manager responded when queried> "We know you are one of L.A. Cowboy's biggest supporters in Minnesota. Well, one of a few hundred "biggest" anyway ;). We have received numerous *e*s of appreciation and affection regarding L.A.'s works and how they have touched hearts, lives, relationships, not a few mentioning your name as recommendee. But you were not given "honorable" mention as a result of your kind, consistent "cheer leading" regarding the music of Mr. Obscure Recluse himself. Actually, Brooke Kreiger the guitar player, who is apparently a friend of yours who you gave a CD to or some such thing, began to correspond with the Cowboy through L.A.'s only site at the time - mp3. He wanted to "cover" several of his songs (heavy metal style! Why not? cool!). It turns out that he is also a web site builder. As they traded messages, he inquired as to why L.A. didn't have an "official" site. Upon hearing of our web ignorance,combined with financial restraints, he insisted, and I mean insisted, on constructing the "official" web site - for free. Due to the fact that we would have never had contact with him, or acquired this lovely site if it hadn't been for your sharing spirit, we added your name as an afterthought at the bottom of the "special thanks". Thought he would have told you... Sorry for the surprise and if you do not want it there, we will have it removed. You asked who Kate and John are. They are L.A.'s wonderful, talented teenagers. Both play and sing like professional angels! We are truly grateful for your serendipitous contribution to our cause - creating often seemingly miraculous avenues on a low-budget/no-budget for exposing magical music in a dark, polluted industry. (P.S.) We also appreciate your personal preferences in music, as proven by the multiple orders we have received, bearing your name. :) ;) You and those like you prove that this is a small world, and often smaller proves better. Again, thank you for your continuing support. Sue Stark (label manager - Reconcile Records)" Wow, Jeff. How's that for an unexpected and unwarranted "honor"??? I'm suddenly "famous" lol Thanks for the tip-off... Now my question to you would be - as a savvy Internet "map" traveler, obviously intrigued enough to thoroughly investigate the "official" L.A. Cowboy site, did you hopefully fulfill your (presumably) initial intention and visit long enough to savor his unusual,(brilliant really) "quotes" page? Did you read any of his magnificent poetry, listen to his unique world-class music? Just understandably curious - as you made absolutely NO remarks - positive, negative or otherwise regarding my artistic recommendations. Perhaps you were so excited and enamored to find my name buried at the back of the site under that of my acquaintance, Brooke, who built it, that you totally forgot the reason for the visit. If that be the case, I recommend you reevaluate your initial intentions and re-proceed upon the quest with a renewed vigor to investigate the artist in question, as assumedly your investigation of me is now concluded. I do believe that WAS your initial intention - - to explore the artistry of L.A. Cowboy - wasn't it? Of course if you continue to be perplexed, paralyzed by your inadvertently "remarkable" discovery, you could always e-mail Reconcile Records (although they might find such an inquiry rather bizarre - who knows, they've been quite charitable in answering MY occasional correspondence/questions.) Otherwise, I'll gently point you back to the issue at hand: seeking to personally verify a fellow JMDL's opinions regarding the prosodic treasures I've discovered and so considerately (I hope), enthusiastically shared, possibly benefiting from exposure to an artist that you too might find extraordinary. I do believe that this is why we are all inevitably here: to share our love and joy of tasteful,inspiring music. That said, I truly hope you get back on the original trail. The artistic investigation - remember? Go for it Sherlock!! Modestly, Franklin P.S. Although I'm not all that "special", I am rather reserved: That being the case, I hope you will understand my hesitancy in releasing my social security number, credit reports, police record (no felonies, mostly speeding tickets etc.) or rulings regarding my divorce proceedings (nothing to scandalous - just a bit too sad and personal), particularly as I don't necessarily deduce their relevancy regarding this probatively resolved situation. (wink, smirk, smile) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:29:08 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits EXACTLY Kate! Plenty of great singers and songwriters have written till their last gasp! And why should she let the biz intimidate her into retirement? She has always defied the norm. What a victory for "Art's" sake! - --- Kate wrote: > since when did she ever let the biz dictate what she did! why should she let > it get to her now? how better to spit into that dark cesspool than to write > & record & release a record outside of the biz!!!! a simple one, voice & > instrument....new songs...it would be a sure fire hit... > Kate - Kakki you talk to your people and have them get in touch with my people and let's get this show on the road! Kate continues: > susan, i think we need to have a chat over lunch with joni...kakki, do you > think you could arrange this? lol... > As you point out this is when she has been at her best. And with all of her life experience now - think of the possibilities. Another idea is to revisit those places she visited all those years before and rewrite about them now as opposed to then - sort of like Lillian Hellman refers to it - Pentimento ... OH my Gawd what a great name for the album! Kate then said: > come to think of it...how many albums has she written when she goes on a > retreat? hmmm...blue! hmmm...for the roses! hmmm....hejira! > Okay my head is spinning now with possibility ... as a grand Yentyl once begged: "Joni can you hear me?" Peace, Susan NP: Joni/STAS/Night in the City Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:39:26 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: DED njc Beautifully expressed! Joni needs to read this..my hope is somehow she sees this! Who needs million of fans............(shhhh) if just one like this? Bree > One can crawl inside her mind here and stay forever. The emotions and >thoughts that her words evoke can only serve to make the lucky listener >better, stronger, and wiser. > >mack _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:45:04 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: DED njc Kakki..look at this..again Mack has NJC Babe..it's 100%..too cute... >Beautifully expressed! Joni needs to read this..my hope is somehow she >sees this! Who needs million of fans............(shhhh) if just one like >this? > >Bree > > > >> One can crawl inside her mind here and stay forever. The emotions and >>thoughts that her words evoke can only serve to make the lucky listener >>better, stronger, and wiser. >> >>mack > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:56:38 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: DED njc I know that you have experienced music that does nothing but take you away, inside your own mind. It plays, over and over again, while you think, think, think. That is where this album has taken me. It is truly amazing. I had always thought of the big three (Blue, C and S, and For the Roses) as works of art and more or less incomparable. I am not sure but that this work outshines them in my mind. Surprised? Yes. Enthralled? Nothing but so. I look to Joni to inspire me, to make me better, to awaken, in me, what must be there. This album makes me, tells me, inspires me to be the best that I can be. What more could one want from music? mack > Beautifully expressed! Joni needs to read this..my hope is somehow she sees > this! Who needs million of fans............(shhhh) if just one like this? > > Bree > > > > > One can crawl inside her mind here and stay forever. The emotions and > >thoughts that her words evoke can only serve to make the lucky listener > >better, stronger, and wiser. > > > >mack > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:49:39 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits Kate writes: << we need to hear the voice of the person who many of us consider the greatest songwriter our generation has ever known & we need to hear her voice in all of its beautiful wisdom & maturity... >> Amen, sister. No one else is writing songs about maturity, as far as I know. Everything that's out there is all about youth and other things that are wasted on the young. Joni could really make her mark here, moreso than she ever has. I hope she doesn't miss this opportunity. I love the sound of her mature voice. And her paintings, although they're nice and all, aren't worth one one-hundredth of what her songs are worth, in my opinion. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:54:03 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: RE: What Nonesuch Records is trying to say.... Okay, this sounds exciting. Nonesuch is describing a PBS film but they say it "contains" "a comprehensive photo archive". Now, I don't know of any *TV show* that comes with a photo archive. You guys? But it does sound exactly like ad copy a for-purchase DVD with "a comprehensive photo archive". I can't wait to pony-up $20 USD for that and no, this is not the world-famous Lama sarcasm. I have to admit I looked up the word "pentinent". Isn't "PENITENT OF THE SPIRIT" the phrase that she prefers to the phrase "confessional poet"? "Pentinent" isn't in my 39 year-old, thumb-indexed, "Webster's Seventh New Collegaitae Dictionary". Maybe I should spring for the Eighth edition? :) Alarmingly, www.dictionary.com had "Feeling or expressing remorse for one's misdeeds or sins." Is my dusty but treasured dictionary ready for the dustbin? I think NOT! It sounds like Joni's chanelling for Mags Holden-Gross with this title. But of course, we aren't looking forward to buying "Swan Song" or "A Travelogue" on Novemeber 19th so Joni's proven to be somewhat malleable on titles in the past. I think "(w/t)" might mean "working title". Can I get an expert opinion on that? Lama > -----Original Message----- Nonesuch Records said, > Also planned for Spring 2003 The 90-minute film, > AMERICAN MASTERS JONI MITCHELL: PENITENT OF THE SPIRIT (w/t) is a > co-production of Thirteen/WNET New York and Eagle Vision, and > will air nationally on PBS in May 2003. Directed by series > creator and Executive Producer Susan Lacy and produced by Ms. > Lacy and Stephanie Bennett, the film contains rare archival > performance footage from Mitchells earliest appearances in 1966, > historic audio recordings of never released material, home > movies, her acting debut, a comprehensive photo archive, and > interviews with the musician covering the span of her career - > with candid conversations conducted expressly for her latest > album. Confirmed interviews include David Crosby, Graham Nash, > David Geffen, Larry Klein, Cameron Crowe, and Mitchells daughter > Kilauren, her parents, Judy Collins, Stephen Holden, Eliot > Roberts, Tom Rush and Herbie Hancock. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:55:16 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Joni Mitchell, Stevie Nicks, Sheryl Crow, Trisha Yearwood Sing For Walden Woods Joni Mitchell, Stevie Nicks, Sheryl Crow, Trisha Yearwood Sing For Walden Woods by Darryl Morden (Launch.com November 14, 2002) - ------------------------ Joni Mitchell, Sheryl Crow, Stevie Nicks, Trisha Yearwood, and Norah Jones performed Wednesday (November 13) at the Wiltern Theatre in Los Angeles for Stormy Weather, a benefit concert for Don Henley's Walden Woods Project. The all-female lineup represented rock, pop, country, blues, and R&B, also including Reba McEntire, Michelle Branch, Paula Cole, Deborah Cox, and Susan Tedeschi. Though the night was billed as an evening of standards, most of the performers turned to contemporary material. Each woman performed two songs, except for Mitchell, who closed the show with three numbers, including Bob Dylan's "Sweetheart Like You" and a new, orchestral version of her classic "Woodstock," that served as a preview of her upcoming Travelogue release. Nicks performed "Landslide," originally found on Fleetwood Mac's 1975 self-titled album, and more recently revived as a country-and-pop crossover hit by the Dixie Chicks. For her cover, she chose Etta James's "Sunday Kind of Love." McEntire sang "I Won't Mention It Again," off her 1995 release, Starting Over, followed by Irving Berlin's "I Got Lost In His Arms," from the Broadway musical Annie Get Your Gun. Crow presented a re-worked "Run Baby Run," from her 1994 debut, Tuesday Night Music Club, then covered Steve Earle's delicate ballad "Goodbye." Yearwood's vignette, "On A Bus To St. Cloud," was served well by orchestration. She also performed of "The Man That Got Away," best known from the Judy Garland film, A Star Is Born. Jones offered the Band's "It Makes No Difference" and Cole sang Tom Waits's "The House Where Nobody Lives," which she dedicated to the White House. On that note, Henley, who hosted the event, took his own swipe at the White House's most famous resident, President George W. Bush, with whom he shares a Texas heritage. "He was an idiot then, and an idiot now," he said. Cox's performance included "This Better Earth," originally made famous by Dinah Washington. Blues singer Tedeschi went with a popular standard, turning to "These Foolish Things," while Branch bravely took on Leonard Cohen's "Famous Blue Raincoat." The evening also included an auction, conducted by actor/comedian Paul Reiser, along with Henley and his Eagles songwriting partner, Glenn Frey. Items auctioned included a trip on a private jet to Las Vegas to see Celine Dion perform, a guitar autographed by the night's performers, and another signed by Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band. Also on the block was a chance to sing back-up on a new recording by the Eagles. Here, Frey quipped, "Who wants to buy that, besides Don Felder," referring to the band's longtime guitarist who was ousted from the group in 2001. The Walden Woods Project works to preserve and protect from development the forests around Concord, Massachusetts. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:00:20 -0500 From: Yael Harlap Subject: whores NJC Erica wrote: >Christina Agularia LOOKS like a whore, no one can deny it, of couse >she isn't a whore, but she has to know what type of visual image she's >sending with the videos and photo shoots. They aren't tastefully done, she's >obviously selling her sexuality. i'm sure sex workers look all sorts of different ways, depending on their cultural background and their clientele. i'm too tired to say anything else about that right now. but i'm sure someone else will. :) - -yael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:07:08 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: RE: What Nonesuch Records is trying to say....NJC "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" wrote: <<<<>> and a baffled Mags Holden-Gross writes: pardon me???? do explain please Lama You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:09:56 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits now NJC - --- Papa Smurph wrote: > If we have twins, I suggest we name them: > > Edith and Amelia (if they're girls) > Me: I'll go with Scarlett and Marcie here hon. You know S & M for short. > Blue and Green (if they're one of each) > Willy and Carey (boys) > These are good for me! > Let me know when your eggs are in danger of their freshness date running out. It's imminent! Hurry Smurph. Hey we didn't even need that stinkin' dating service to do this! LOL! > We can do this, Susan! > Damn I'll be ready to burst by fest! But at least they will be Leos - if we get on this fast! Peace, Susan (reconsidering for fear of losing her girlish figure) NP: Joni/Cactus Tree Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:24:03 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: DED njc Have you ever listened to and read the lyrics of something so profound, so powerful, that it almost hurts, it gives pangs of anguish to do so? Visionary is this woman. I thought that I had it but no, I did not. All homage to this woman, this joni mitchell. i am sorry to continue with my praises of this album but I cannot believe that a human being could know these things, could place them on a page, into the ear, then the mind. I will stop. Never again will there be wonder as to why such reverence is given to Joni, here. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:19:02 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits now NJC Susan writes: << It's imminent! Hurry Smurph. Hey we didn't even need that stinkin' dating service to do this! LOL! <> Damn I'll be ready to burst by fest! But at least they will be Leos - if we get on this fast! >> And Mama Lion (and Leo) Ashara can be our midwife! I'm coming, Susan, I'm coming! XO, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:29:01 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: RE: What Nonesuch Records is trying to say....NJC I thought that citation might provoke you to post. The dictionary defined "pentinent" as 'Feeling or expressing remorse' and this reminded me of the "I made my baby say good-bye" blues that you share with our favorite grandmother. I think you might have used the word 'remorse'. Or maybe it was sorrow. Anyway, it sounds like 'regret' rather than the word 'confessional' that people usually come up with for songwriters. Lama This post was modified from its original form. It was edited for simplicity. -----Original Message----- From: Mags N Brei [mailto:magsnbrei@yahoo.com] pardon me???? do explain please ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:30:28 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits now NJC KSF.. (knee slapping funny)....you guys should team-up and make some $$$ > > Let me know when your eggs are in danger of their freshness date running >out. > >It's imminent! Hurry Smurph. Hey we didn't even need that stinkin' dating >service to do this! >LOL! > > > We can do this, Susan! > > >Damn I'll be ready to burst by fest! But at least they will be Leos - if >we get on this fast! > >Peace, >Susan >(reconsidering for fear of losing her girlish figure) > >NP: Joni/Cactus Tree >Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site >http://webhosting.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:40:37 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Stormy Weather 2002 Well, I finally made it home, but I'm pretty exhausted. I'll try my best to be coherent and add what I can. It was so great to see my list buds! The kind of friends you can just pick right up with, so natural. Love it! The Wiltern is a beautiful place but the whole thing was not very well organized. I guess the big-wig dinner took longer than they expected and as Kakki said, we stood outside the door in crowded heat for an hour waiting to be seated. Bob and I actually went to the box office and complained, going so far as to ask for a refund, mostly for drama. The lady at the box actually agreed that the situation sucked, but said that they would start very soon and we would miss an awesome concert if we chose to leave. (This, of course, turned out to be true!) When we did get in, they were still auctioning off stuff to the hi-rollers like " walk in part on Will and Grace", "Poster signed by all that night's performers" and "private jet to front row tickets for opening night of Celine Dion's new show in Vegas" (barf) I'm pretty sure Michael CAine bought that one for 5K, as he racked up roughly 20K in purchases in the name of charity. Oh yeah, the auctioneers were Don Henley and Paul Riser. I didn't notice what time the concert actually started but I guess it could have been 2 hours late, I'm not sure. Our seats were quite comfortable, temperature wise anyway, I guess the higher you got the hotter it was. Sorry you guys had to sweat through it! So, that wasn't you yelling out "We Love You Joni" in unison???? The concert has been covered well by Kakki and Rick. I'll add that Joni DID introduce her second song with "This is a Dylan song I've always loved. It's a thrill to be able to sing it here" I'll also add that her orchestral version of Woodstock was by far the highlight of the evening for me. Quite dramatic..Mesmerizing. I had brought a little gift I made for Joni, a raku necklace, and a card.. Our very expensive tickets included a "VIP Post-Concert Party". I was hoping she would be there and I could give it to her. The party was a veritable sugar fest with every sort of dessert imaginable. I swear the whole place smelled like sugar. We waited patiently, chatting with some folks for at least 30 minutes, but the only celeb we saw was Mick Fleetwood. I was starting to figure that they just weren't going to show and we were going to leave when in struts Larry Klein. I jumped in front of him and introduced myself, complimented him on the great show. I told him I had a little gift for Joni and asked if she was coming. He said he didn't think so but said he would be happy to give it to her for me. So, it's in Mr. Klein's hands. I hope she did get it, and enjoyed it. Now, more sleep, Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:11:10 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re:djrd cover Lama wrote: <> That's how I recall it seeing it. Must be "Noah's pretty little white dove". I'll have to check out that dress again though. Mia _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:27:10 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: hooray! njc chris, i am excited at your new release...good work to get the majority of 11 tunes in that time... julius, it is so good to have a post from you...please don't stay away so long...your writing is so brilliant! btw, vince i always love what you have to say but but i must object- NO! not all of us are out to make a buck "Dre is out for making money, sure. Aren't we all." & NO! not all music in this country has african american roots as much of it has celtic roots..."all American music as we know it comes from black sources. Name it -rock, jazz, tell em an American music form that doesn't have African American roots. " ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:27:17 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: thinking of women and Joni " she's obviously selling her sexuality" wouldn't in certain circumstances, using the word whore be quite accurate...i mean isn't that basically what a whore is, someone who exchanges sex for money? ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:46:03 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits speaking of last gasps that is precisely what warren zevon is doing...as we speak i believe he is in the studio recording his songs with what...merely months to live? btw, a friend & i are producing a warren zevon tribute show next month susan "EXACTLY Kate! Plenty of great singers and songwriters have written till their last gasp!" well said bob!!!!! this could be one of her most triumphant moments! i am at this very moment having similar discussions about joni over at my indiegrrl music group as we speak/err..write... oh, some of them have NO CLUE!!!! but some of them do...joni IS THE original indiegrrl bob "Joni could really make her mark here, moreso than she ever has. I hope she doesn't miss this opportunity. I love the sound of her mature voice. And her paintings, although they're nice and all, aren't worth one one-hundredth of what her songs are worth, in my opinion. " ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:13:40 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Stormy Weather 2002 Phyliss, Thanks for your report! I'm sorry you only got to see Mick Fleetwood at the after party, but am SO glad you got to pass that beautiful necklace along to Mr. Klein! Part of me feels so bad that much of last night was a disappointment and a bit icky on some levels. The Wiltern is usually a fantastic venue. The logistical and other debacles I've never seen before at concerts here. The one saving grace through it all were the performances of the artists and that incredible orchestra that carried on through it all. The '98 show was so much more professional but I will tell you that we DID get a much greater Joni and Stevie show this time around! It wasn't us yelling "we love you Joni" - we were on low energy up there in the rafters, but I thought your Bob yelled it out at one point ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:45:53 +0100 From: "Moni Kellermann" Subject: Re: What Nonesuch Records is trying to say.... Here in Germany the album is promoted through eastwest Records. On their website there is a page http://www.eastwest.de/artist/4018/artist_bio/artistContent.html?topic=artis t&pagetype=artist_bio&id=4018 (please assemble link as ONE line) that contains the same info as on the nonesuch US page but also some interesting new facts. There it says that the PBS documentary will be shown several times on TV from May 2003 on and then later will be released on DVD. It does not mention any special editions of the Travelogue album. It DOES say: "Currently the singer is preparing for a tour to promote the album". moni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:28:02 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Cookbook Jerry wrote: > Yes she did, though we never did get it printed up for mass distribution. BUT, I > do still have it and the cover electronically and will send it out to anyone who > asks. Just don't ask for any more revisions. Those are done! I still wish we could do a mass distribution of it. Jerry - even though I was somewhat (lol) present at the J-Fest where some multiple special editions were given by Marian, I never got to see them! I would love to see a pic of the cover if you can email it. I've told the story before so sorry for the redundancy - but for newer listers - when I saw Joni at her '99 painting exhibit in L.A. ALL she wanted to talk about was that cookbook. She absolutely loved it. People around us were changing the subject but she kept going back to the cookbook and the bios (very clever and funny) that we sent along with it. The best part of all was an interview published a few months later where she mentioned the cookbook from her "internet people" most glowingly ;-) She really loved it - a testament to the creativity and talent of the people here. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:45:33 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Article says Joni's calling it quits Kate wrote: > susan, i think we need to have a chat over lunch with joni...kakki, do you > think you could arrange this? lol... Are you kidding? You know I'm right there on the case! ;-) I've been thinking along the same lines. Let her have some respite from the long years in the biz - then she comes back in her own time refreshed and finally just doing it the way she feels. I just read the blurb from Nonesuch re T'log (thanks, Lama) and it was so funny to see the word "encylopedic" - I got together with our Mr. Dulson tonight and he told me he has been holding off listening to any of the music clips (except for Dawntreader). So I tried to explain to him how it is (which isn't easy) and one of the things I said was that it is very dense and kind of like having a whole set of encyclopedia books before you. You cannot "read" it all in one night - it will take weeks or months or years to really absorb it all. She has given us quite a gift - one that I think most of the run of the mill reviewers will not figure out except in long retrospect. Besides all that - it is MAGIC! ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:59:32 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: vanilla ice vs eminem "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" writes: >By the way, one of the really neat things about 8 Mile is >how whites and blacks interact. In the rap world, it is a >whole differenmt way than in society as a whole. As far as >race relations goes, rappers have it all over the rest of >us. This brings to mind a cartoon I once saw in the New Yorker: a white teenager, replete with hip-hop fashion, saunters through a room where his father is reading the newspaper; the father looks up and says, "Shouldn't you be out somewhere appropriating black culture?" - -Fred ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #491 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)