From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #485 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 13 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 485 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Joni, "an original" ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Swansong? [=?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= ] RollingStone.com: Recordings: Joni Mitchell, Travelogue, 2 Stars [David M] travelogue editions? [FredNow@aol.com] DED njc ["mack watson-bush" ] joni njc ["mack watson-bush" ] YOU BET!! was RE: Re: Joni, "an original" ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" <] Re: Joni, "an original" [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni Content in a book "Stardust Melodies" by Will Friedwald ["Jim L'Homm] ethiopia njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: ethiopia njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] chuck e njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Giving Jack Nielsen his due.... njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: thanks (NJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] Article says Joni's calling it quits [BRYAN8847@aol.com] RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits ["Heather" ] Re: DED njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: DED njc ["kakki" ] Re: DED njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] NJC Give it a rest Frankin ["kasey simpson" ] RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits [frasere@intergate.ca] RE: NY Post Gossip Column on Joni's birthday!! ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)] Re: DED njc ["gene mock" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:19:25 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: RE: Joni, "an original" Mickey Hart. Bree, you need to read Karen O'Brien's book. As I recall, Joni learned to play a baritone ukulele first because it was more affordable than a guitar. While she did not invent open tunings for the guitar, she got minimal, and I mean *minimal* instruction on the topic. When you read Karen's book, you'll see that she has the intelligence and grace to credit every single newspaper or magazine article, book or interview she used. She completely covers Kelly/Kilauren, Wally, and Simon. And that Muller guy too. :) It's the perfect Christmas gift to the Joni fan on your list, or for yourself. Lama Sample ======= Karen's said, >>>>>>>> Karen's voice: Soon after arriving in New York she had considered getting a manager, but a meeting with (Bob) Dylan's manager, Alan Grossman, convinced her that she didn't need a Mr. Ten Per Cent of her own: Joni's voice: > He was a very intimidating man. He smoked through his > fist and had these big, bushy gray eyebrows. One > night he took me out for sushi... the bean curd smelled like urine that night and I had such a hard time with it. And he was sitting there, smoking through his hand and looking at me like, 'Eat it up, if you want me to manage you!' Karen's voice: They went back to her small apartment in Chelsea (yeah, this is the TRUE source) and Mitchell recalls Grossman was discomfited by the feminine trappings, the tasteful decoration and the lovingly restored vintage pieces retrieved from the Detroit home she'd once shared with Chuck Mitchell: Joni's voice: > He walked in and he couldn't believe it - it was > fixed up really cute. He couldn't figure out > how I did it and he tried to talk me out of > [music]. He said I was too domestic to be in > the music business. He took me over to his > place and all he had was a pallet on the floor > with black sheets. > He said, " YOU don't need a manager." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pp 63-4; "Shadows and Light: The Definitive Biography" from Virgin Books Ltd., London 2001 Enticed? Lama PS, Yael, I think I told you this story in the car. It's a perfect "condescending male" tale isn't it? >>>>>>>> > From: Bree Mcdonough [mailto:bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com] > I read a fairly interesting book written by the drummer of The > Grateful Dead on the history of drums/percussion. (mickey? > (can't think of > the last name) Interesting little tidbits like: the pan drums or steel > drums were a product of WW11. ...All those oil drums left on > islands were > put to good use... > > I wonder about Joni too...where in the heck did she get all those open > tunings..chord progressions? Was she influenced heavily (slightly) by > somebody..was she her own evolution? > > Bree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 00:34:14 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Swansong? Are we still expecting an album of Christmas songs? River isn't on Travelogue (unless I have missed it completely) but Chinese Cafe is, but not Facelift... Not sure if I would be looking forward to an album of Xmas songs but not including River in this bunch really stings... Joni has said recently in W magazine that this will be her swansong, which will be disappointing (but she has really wanted out of the music biz since 1970 so I don't blame her, probably why she has never given up the smokes, cuz she never saw herself in the biz for that long!). I read the article on yahoo news somewhere. can't wait for Monday!!!!!!!! (cuz, you see, we in the UK will get it on the 18th, according to play.com but the post being what it is, I expect I'll get it on the 25th! Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --------------------------------- Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:52:21 -0800 From: David Marine Subject: RollingStone.com: Recordings: Joni Mitchell, Travelogue, 2 Stars It seems Rolling Stone does not feel that the strings on Travelogue are up to the standards of "great orchestral rock." Glad that the reviewer is shielding RS's readers from orchestral recordings that are not sophisticated enough for them! Cherokee Louise lives under a tunnel? And so the slamming begins........ http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/cd/review.asp?aid=2045280&cf=360 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:56:59 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: travelogue editions? This has probably been covered already, so I apologize for repeating, apologize for repeating, but I haven't been able to keep up with the heavy list traffic lately. Is there definitive info about varying editions of Travelogue? Some kind of "special edition" or enhanced CD (found nothing like that on Amazon)? If someone could let me know as I'd like to advance order it soon. Thanks in advance, Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:28:03 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: DED njc Wow. DED is one kickass album. Though no expert on music, I find the music on this album fantastic. Very catchy and addictive. Has rarely been out of the player since it got here. And the writing is superb. Ethiopia knocks me out. Wow. Wow. Wow. mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:30:28 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: joni njc Joni, if you do slip in from time to time. Thanks for this gem. Flawless. mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:27:50 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: YOU BET!! was RE: Re: Joni, "an original" > Jenny said, You mean I don't have to be at the kid's table for Thanksgiving?! ; ) That's exactly it. But, if you want my two cents anyway......... In my 46 & 11/12ths year-old brain, she blew the roof off the singer-songwriter genre with "Blue" in 1971. Maybe Carly wrote "Nobody Does It Better" but to me, Joni is the true object of that compliment. The very next year, 1972, "For The Roses" came out. To me, both of these albums are so incredibly rich in beauty, metaphor, and depth, that there's just no way to get all of the "juice" out of them in less than 10 years of living with them. You might be able to "gobble" them up and move on, but when you come back? Oh, my. You're back for good. Then came "Court and Spark"!! Has any solo Beatle had three back-to-back titles as good as these? I think not. McCartney's "Ram", much as I love it, was preceded by "McCartney" and followed by "Wings-Wildlife". John Lennon? Please! That's the bottom line for me. I'm not saying that the Beatles were hacks. Understand, what I'm saying is to expect 3 in a row of this caliber from any solo artist is a super-human feat, unattainable by even the Beatles. Yet, here's this Canuck. This *WOMAN*. Hello? You bet she's ground-breaking! Lama ps, 1971: a dulcimer 1972: a grand piano with an orchestra 1974: a jazz-rock band covering Annie Ross The people rest, your honor. > Jenny said, > >> So - this all has me thinking - when is an artist ground > breaking - when an artist truly comes up with something new > or combines influences in a way that has never been done > before? Specifically - when do you think Joni broke some > ground? And what was her contribution - lyrical...musical. > > For pop/rock music history buffs - or heck for people who > were actually cognizant at the time - how do you see Joni > in the context of popular music? How about in music in > general? Did she truly become an original right of the > bat with STAS - or was that more a logical, albeit > creative outflow of what was happening around and before her? > > I have a zillion other thoughts/questions, but let's leave it at > that....>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:38:16 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni, "an original" In a message dated 11/12/2002 7:20:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, jlamadoo@fuse.net writes: > While she did not invent open tunings for the guitar, she got minimal, and I > mean *minimal* instruction on the topic. > Basically, Bree, she heard chord shapes in her head that she couldn't find the fingering for in standard tuning - it would require great stretches of the fingers across the frets. So, the solution; re-tune the strings so you CAN play the chord. Once you've done one of these "martian" tunings, you can simply play barre chords or other combinations to create new chord sequences. So for the most part, at least to my understanding, the open tunings came about because of physical limitations. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:48:00 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Joni Content in a book "Stardust Melodies" by Will Friedwald Murphy, this might help you in your never-ending crusade as the King of Joni-in-literature. Chuck E posted this last night to the JoniFest list: Chuck E said, >>>>>>> Hi all, I ran across this Joni reference in 'Stardust Melodies', by Will Friedwald, which is a great read on the life and times of 12 monster American Songbook tunes: Star Dust, My Funny Valentine, etc. and this bit about Joni's BSN version of Stormy Weather... "...folk-rock singer songwriter Joni Mitchell delivered a rendition that surprised me with it's depth and effectiveness, but which probably was no surprise for her longtime fans. Mitchell has a burnished voice like the best of the great jazz ladies, and a more than persuasive way with a lyric. She obviously grew up with the 1959 Sinatra reading, for her background arrangement seems deeply in debt to Gordon Jenkins." If anyone is so inclined please pass this citation to the jmdl list, as I am not able to send from this email account! Thanks! ChuckE >>>>>>> Lama ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:57:57 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: ethiopia njc as for me, this tune alone would allow me to forgive any perceived transgression she might committ. could have penned it last night after reading the news of today. such genius. have never loved her music as i do today. mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:56:38 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: ethiopia njc Good call, Mack...Ethiopia moves me to tears almost every time. But it seems to be one of the most unpopular songs on one of her most unpopular records, as not many here care too much for it. I remember hearing an excerpt of it on NPR the day the record came out and it moved me even then. I don't know if I bought DED that day, but it wasn't shortly thereafter. I remember too being excited hearing about a new Joni release; at the time it seemed like a long time since WTRF, and it had been! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:07:12 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: chuck e njc Making my way through the jonifest tapes, provided to me by the always generous and never ceasing to amaze me with her sweetness Bree, and finding them very fine. This post reminded me of the one that I heard today that gave the sounds of Chuck E to me. The main thought that kept going through my head while listening to his voice was sweet. So sweet. A voice like honey and meant to sing tunes of love, of emotion. The voice of the man on the pier while the salmon fries and the tide rolls in. mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:30:03 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Giving Jack Nielsen his due.... njc Me too! And another thing. I love Jack's version of "Real Good, For Free" as performed at JoniFest 2002. I love the way he updates the lyric- right up to 2002. Lama Bob Muller said, I just heard this one in the car this AM, and once again I was just in awe of Jack's performance, and laughing at his "I've got 32 new BUDDIES" line...his version is one that surpasses Joni's own as he invests it with so much feeling. It's an intimate song, and he sings it so intimately, if that makes any sense. And his vocal is so much warmer, where Joni's is too stratospheric. Hers is great, his is better. btw...now that I can't bug you about Pazfest, Michael...when is Jack Nielsen's CD going to be available? :~) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:30:05 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Giving Bob Muller his due..... njc And Bob, your "take" on Tom Waits is..... well, I don't want to give you a big head but it's fan-damn-tastic! That night I thought it was eye-poppingly good from the footlights, but it's just as good on CD-R! Lama ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:34:24 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Giving Winona Ryder her due... njc [He says, "Impossible" as he hands you a bone and still something is happening and ya don't know what is do you Mr. Jones?] Seriously, how could Winona Ryder and Wynona Judd be the same person? Ryder MELTS butter at 50 paces and Judd ORDERS butter from 50 paces...... Lama Tune into the jmdl. All Lamadoo, all the time. Maybe I'll stop posting. Maybe not........... Victor said, >>>>>>Winona Ryder was convicted of shoplifting. Wynona Judd has the hot mom and can sing. Maybe they are really the same person though. Has anyone ever seen them together? Victor in Asheville <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:44:47 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: NY Post Gossip Column on Joni's birthday!! ****** EXACTLY ****** Thanks, Bree for validating my opinion. I've long suspected this. The icing on the cake was when Joni showed up at the alfresco diner with a Jack Russell terrier and argued to let him sniff the other diners! Touche! We need to get some footage of Carol Burnett's old 'Norma Desmond' skit, have Bob Murphy write a typical rant, give the lines to Susan Guzzi and create a new voice-over soundtrack. I see Harvey Korman as the long-suffering Klein. Or am I very much mistaken? Lama PS, I love Joni...... No, really! From: "Bree Mcdonough" > Or perhaps Joni is following Madonna's example, promoting her new CD with negative controversy. > ;~D > Eric Could be...I know this goes on? Or she IS becoming more like that Norma Desmond character as time passes? Bree ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:50:54 -0800 From: "Ronald M. St. Marie" Subject: Re: NY Post Gossip Column, NJC > > Madonna did this just to create a controversy to sell CDs! And it looks like she's at it again: found this on the UPI website when searching to see if JM is indeed retiring: The New York Post asserted that Madonna will never again be offered a starring role in a film after the disastrous first week of "Swept Away." Bill Hoffman reported that Madonna's handlers claim the Material Girl was sabotaged by the critics. "It's a public hanging by the critics, an assassination," Madonna publicist Liz Rosenberg told Hoffman. "I can't believe the level of rage being directed against her. It's a sad state that these critics are taking such joy in it." In its first weekend, "Swept Away" only netted $375,000 playing in 196 movie theaters around the country. The Post reported that Cinema 7 in New York's East Village sold only five tickets to the first matinee showing of the film and 22 to the second. "God, it was awful," the Post reported a woman who stormed out of the theater as saying. "Unwatchable!" http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021017-123134-7935rhttp://www.upi.com/ view.cfm?StoryID=20021017-123134-7935r ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:06:16 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: thanks (NJC) > Wow. REALLY wonderful stuff on your site! Thanks for sharing with us!! > > I know we're not supposed to but I'm posting a 'me too!' M E I S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:23:13 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Article says Joni's calling it quits This was on the news wires today Bryan (praying it's not true) Joni Mitchell says new album will be her last LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Veteran singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell, disgusted with the music business, has said her latest album will also be her last. "These are my last two records," the influential Canadian songstress said of her forthcoming double album "Travelogue". "I'm quitting after this because the business has made itself so repugnant to me," Mitchell, 59, was quoted as telling the December edition of W magazine in an interview. Mitchell, whose eclectic career spans 35 years across the genres of folk, rock and jazz, has been hinting for weeks that she might end the recording career that made her one of the most respected and outspoken artists of her generation. In an interview with Rolling Stone, published in October, Mitchell described the music business as a "cesspool," saying she would never take another deal in the record business, "which means I may not record again". In the W magazine interview, she blasted the recording industry as "the most corrupt one of all. They try not to pay you whenever possible." Venting her scorn on contemporary artists -- including Madonna -- Mitchell said of music industry executives; "They're not looking for talent. They're looking for a look and a willingness to cooperate. And a woman my age, no matter how well preserved, no longer has the look. And I've never had a willingness to cooperate." As for Madonna, who was once quoted as saying that as a teenager she had adored Mitchell: "She has knocked the importance of talent out of the arena. She's manufactured. She's made a lot of money and become the biggest star in the world by hiring the right people," Mitchell said. Canadian-born Mitchell, whose syncopated rhythms and introspective lyrics brought a breath of fresh air to the early 1970s music scene, inspired musicians ranging from Sting to David Bowie and Madonna herself. Yet her own records, even those like "Both Sides Now," "Big Yellow Taxi" and "Woodstock", never sold in huge numbers. She has refused to do anything to make her music more salable. "What would I do?", she asked in the W magazine interview. "Show my tits? Grab my crotch? Get hair extensions and a choreographer? It's not my world," she said. "Travelogue," a two-disc collection, features some but not all of Mitchell's greatest hits. It was recorded with the London Symphony Orchestra and a backing band that includes Herbie Hancock, Billy Preston and Wayne Shorter and will be released on November 18. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:19:32 -0500 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits Hasn't Joni said that before? Wasn't a performance in New Orleans (or somewhere in that vicinity) to be her swan song? I think Joni will always have the bug ... or itch ... to create music. She will always continue to create on her own terms. I get so perplexed when she bashes the music industry. She has valid points but enough already. She creates works of art. It stands alone. She doesn't need all the glitz she mentions below. I really wish she would get over this and relish in the beautiful artist that she is. Heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of BRYAN8847@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:23 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Article says Joni's calling it quits This was on the news wires today Bryan (praying it's not true) Joni Mitchell says new album will be her last LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Veteran singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell, disgusted with the music business, has said her latest album will also be her last. "These are my last two records," the influential Canadian songstress said of her forthcoming double album "Travelogue". "I'm quitting after this because the business has made itself so repugnant to me," Mitchell, 59, was quoted as telling the December edition of W magazine in an interview. Mitchell, whose eclectic career spans 35 years across the genres of folk, rock and jazz, has been hinting for weeks that she might end the recording career that made her one of the most respected and outspoken artists of her generation. In an interview with Rolling Stone, published in October, Mitchell described the music business as a "cesspool," saying she would never take another deal in the record business, "which means I may not record again". In the W magazine interview, she blasted the recording industry as "the most corrupt one of all. They try not to pay you whenever possible." Venting her scorn on contemporary artists -- including Madonna -- Mitchell said of music industry executives; "They're not looking for talent. They're looking for a look and a willingness to cooperate. And a woman my age, no matter how well preserved, no longer has the look. And I've never had a willingness to cooperate." As for Madonna, who was once quoted as saying that as a teenager she had adored Mitchell: "She has knocked the importance of talent out of the arena. She's manufactured. She's made a lot of money and become the biggest star in the world by hiring the right people," Mitchell said. Canadian-born Mitchell, whose syncopated rhythms and introspective lyrics brought a breath of fresh air to the early 1970s music scene, inspired musicians ranging from Sting to David Bowie and Madonna herself. Yet her own records, even those like "Both Sides Now," "Big Yellow Taxi" and "Woodstock", never sold in huge numbers. She has refused to do anything to make her music more salable. "What would I do?", she asked in the W magazine interview. "Show my tits? Grab my crotch? Get hair extensions and a choreographer? It's not my world," she said. "Travelogue," a two-disc collection, features some but not all of Mitchell's greatest hits. It was recorded with the London Symphony Orchestra and a backing band that includes Herbie Hancock, Billy Preston and Wayne Shorter and will be released on November 18. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:39:41 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: NY Post Gossip Column on Joni's birthday!! Lama, You are in rare form ;-) > Thanks, Bree for validating my opinion. I've long suspected this. The > icing on the cake was when Joni showed up at the alfresco diner with a Jack > Russell terrier and argued to let him sniff the other diners! Touche! O.K. look - while she does tend to sound a bit like Norma in the cut, pasted, clipped and snipped interviews, she is not there yet! We are generally laid back here in SoCal, especially as one gets closer to the beach. EVERYONE along the beach seems to bring their dogs if they have them (often BIG dogs like dingo mixes and Rhodesian ridgebacks and other assorted canine exotica) out on a weekend stroll to the local cafe. Her little Coco was yapping her head off being leashed and since it was only just a few of us out there at first being copacetic, she let her off the leash to stop yapping. THEN, this contingent of bratty spoiled teenage girls arrived on the scene and started giving Joni all kinds of sh**. Later, as Joni was regaling us with her times with Dylan and others those girls got smaller and smaller and almost crawled off the patio as they were leaving, their metaphorical tails way down between their legs. Heehee ;-) Joni is still as I have always regarded her - she is just like one of us. She is completely human and real and sweet. But she ain't no pushover, and that's good. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:29:30 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: what jimmy said about joni (from my memory i think this is pretty much how it went) at the joni mitchell tribute jimmy spoke about he was a kid (18 yrs old) working at sunset sound (studio) mostly working in the back, fixing stuff...one day the manager told him that he would be engineering david crosby who was coming in...jimmy didn't know who that was but thought, oh, cool...bing crosby's son! he asked if there would be a big band but the manager said no, just a vocal & instrument...when david arrived he had a beautiful girl with him with long blond hair & a strange looking instrument jimmy had never seen before (dulcimer)... so they recorded about 12 or more songs & they turned down the lights while she was playing... jimmy said he was completely mesmerized by her songs....when david introduced them afterwards, jimmy said he could hardly speak he was so in awe of her & when he asked what the woman's name was so he could fill out the studio log & was told, her name is joni mitchell... jimmy said to me before that he doesn't know what happened to that demo, that probably david has it... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 00:41:21 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: DED njc Mack..and all...I have been playing this throughout the day..Ethiopia.. I just played this for someone over the phone lines. Darn..just signed on and am seeing the posts where Joni is calling it quits. Can't believe it...sad...sad ... Will she tour again? (I want to say so many things to joni.. my head is just spinning..... "Human need...on and on.. Bree >Wow. DED is one kickass album. Though no expert on music, I find the >music >on this album fantastic. Very catchy and addictive. Has rarely been out >of >the player since it got here. And the writing is superb. Ethiopia knocks >me >out. Wow. Wow. Wow. > > >mack _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:14:30 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: DED njc You all are cracking me up - marking posts titled "DED" and "Joni" as njc ;-) Glad you got DED, Mack. That was the only one I didn't get when it first came out. I never got it until a few years ago and think it is her best all-around of the 80s. I can't believe some would not like Ethiopia - to me it is the masterpiece of the set. I introduced a friend who knew nothing about her other than Big Yellow Taxi to just the lyrics of the DED album and he was completely blown away by her genius. Converted him in one fell swoop ;-) And Bree, don't worry too much about Joni going away from music forever - she has been saying this since around the second album. Hopefully it is one more false alarm. No one with music in their soul can ever go away from it for too long. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 01:14:32 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: DED njc >You all are cracking me up - marking posts titled "DED" and "Joni" as njc >;-) Tis funny...I just noticed that! I love when Mack is blown away by something..it's contagious!! >And Bree, don't worry too much about Joni going away from music forever - >she has been saying this since around the second album. Hopefully it is >one >more false alarm. No one with music in their soul can ever go away from it >for too long. Well lady of the canyon..your words make me feel better.. (yeah..but she has that studio in her home..she might never venture out again..like..like..NORMA... Could not resist..) No..really I'm feeling better now Kakki..thanks.. Bree >Kakki _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 01:31:28 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: NJC Give it a rest Frankin OK Franklin you win; uncle; I give; whatever it takes to stop these boaring, oh so long, meaningless post of pooh. KaseyGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:33:21 -0800 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: RE: Article says Joni's calling it quits Quoting Heather : >" Hasn't Joni said that before? Wasn't a performance in New Orleans (or somewhere in that vicinity) to be her swan song? I think Joni will always have the bug ... or itch ... to create music. She will always continue to create on her own terms." well,Joni has been saying this very same thing for years! I do believe that Joni will continue to be creative, but something tells me that this may very well be her last recording effort. Having been fortunate enough to spend an hour or so with JM and Kakki a year ago, it is apparent to me that her painting assumes prominence in her life now- she has MORE than proven that she has the "chops" as far as music is concerned. She VERY much is aware of what she has musically contributed. But she said: "no one wants to listen to what I have to say." She seemed extremely pissed, and rightly so, that she has not received the "recognition" she truly deserves. She looked me in the eye and asked" What do you paint? I'm a landscape painter, you know!" Though she spoke fondly of her beginnings in the early sixties and those who were prominent at the time, her eyes really came alive when she talked about her painting. What she lives and feels now, she expresses thru paint, not words. So returning to her music, I must say, that today's feature on Nonesuch, Slouching Towards Bethlehem, is absolutely brilliant! Cannot wait to hear a "real" CD of Traveloque, and having the thrill of a preview @ the Toronto Harbourfront tribute a year ago, I know that I will be blown away. And if this will be the swan song, so be it. I will be satisfied. Best to all, Stephen in Vancouver NP: Tom Waitts/Crystal Gayle- One From the Heart Do you have this one Bob M? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 01:33:52 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: RE: NY Post Gossip Column on Joni's birthday!! I'm in rare form? Did you read what MICHAEL FREAKIN PAZ wrote last night? He's in rare form! Go Paz! Lama > From: kakki [mailto:kakkib@vzavenue.net] > Lama, > > You are in rare form ;-) [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of SA_1100PM_BRYAN_T2_Roll_E_Lama.jpg] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of SA_0900PM_SHERELLE_composite,Roll_Z_by_Lama.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:41:38 -0800 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: DED njc don't fret, joni is a creative genius. she can't stop, she doesn't know how. we'll be hearing from her in the future. later gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bree Mcdonough" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: Re: DED njc > Mack..and all...I have been playing this throughout the day..Ethiopia.. I > just played this for someone over the phone lines. Darn..just signed on and > am seeing the posts where Joni is calling it quits. Can't believe > it...sad...sad ... Will she tour again? (I want to say so many things to > joni.. my head is just spinning..... "Human need...on and on.. > > Bree > > > >Wow. DED is one kickass album. Though no expert on music, I find the > >music > >on this album fantastic. Very catchy and addictive. Has rarely been out > >of > >the player since it got here. And the writing is superb. Ethiopia knocks > >me > >out. Wow. Wow. Wow. > > > > > >mack > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #485 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)