From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #467 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 7 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 467 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fw: election's big loser (njc) (pc) ["kasey simpson" ] Joni.....dear Joni.....NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] [none] ["William Chavez" ] Fw: election's big loser (njc) (pc) ["kasey simpson" ] Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results ["kasey simpson" ] Re: Fw: election's big loser (njc) (pc) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:31:30 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: election's big loser (njc) (pc) Gee Mark, I've had some rank ketchup from the old greasy spoons. I'm sure some of it was toxic, put some on a burger, ate a hole right through it. Put some on the fries, they just curled up. Put some on a dawg, you guessed it.........it barked. So is it better to just throw that bottle in the garbage > or recycle it using a gallon or so to make it clean? > > Bree Oh, come on! The water goes down the drain and back into the water supply, doesn't it? Or am I missing something here? It's not like you're pouring toxic waste into it or urinating in it before it goes down the drain. It's not like you used it to scrub your toilet or rinse out the cat box. So there's a little ketchup in it? Is that gonna hurt anybody? Since when did a little ketchup ever hurt anybody? Well, maybe on scrambled eggs, but just a little watered down ketchup going down the drain? Come on! Mark E. in Seattle (trying to sound like Murphy Brown, in my head anyway)Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:34:38 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Joni.....dear Joni.....NJC Shite! I did not know if I should put NJC or not? Joni..what is your favorite cake? I'll make you a virtual one! Do you like ice cream with your cake? Happy B-day....please be with us many...many.. more years!! I love you!! Thanks for it all!! Bree _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:36:14 -0500 From: "William Chavez" Subject: [none] I also like >Blood, Sweat, and Tears 'Momma Told Me not to Come' >I'm sure you're referring to the Three Dog Night version of this Randy > >Newman >song. Have you guys heard odetta's version of "Momma Told Me Not To Come"? I think it's better!! _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:37:52 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: election's big loser (njc) (pc) Kakki, As usual you've covered everything completely and eloquently. Let's see what the next two years bring. If the rep. don't do the job they can be voted out. Kasey Hi Anne, > Sigh. It seems the biggest loser in yesterday's > election was the state of Alaska. There'll be tons o' > drilling there for sure. Everything I've read says the majority in Alaska want the oil business to provide jobs and improve their economy. Was there this kind of opposition when the Alaska pipeline was built back in the 60s-70s? Everything I've read says there will be little ecological impact - and that there was little ecological impact from the previous drilling there. I know, I know, we all read different takes on it. > It's all about oil. Iraq. Alaska. You put an oil man in > the White House and that's what you get. This makes me want to scream every time I read it. Was it all about oil when Clinton bombed Iraq during the 90s? Are the longstanding UN sanctions on Iraq all about oil? What about the fact that the US can get oil from a number of other sources than Iraq and has done so for years now? What about the fact that Europe and Asia are the biggest consumers of oil from Iraq? What about the fact that the largest oil companies in the world area British and Dutch? If, for some reason we "took over" Iraq just to get the oil, the truth is we would have far better access to the reserves there and could bring in a much higher technology to process it, thereby raising competition which would LOWER the price of oil to the entire world and LOWER the profits the oil companies make from it? I am not at all enthusiastic about a war in Iraq, but this "it's all about oil" thing drives me crazy. It defies the facts as I know them, is way too pat, and seems to be just a mantra for singling out that "big bad Bush oil family." > A personal aside. When I spent a few years lobbying for > funding to clean up a local pond, the Republican city > councilor was the biggest and most active supporter of > the effort. So, I guess you can't generalize. (although > it seems that overall the Republican party is not as > environmentally friendly as the Democratic party.) I have been involved with three environmental land conservation foundations. In all three it was "evil rich Republicans" who gave tens of millions to sustain the organizations and to buy the land up for preservation. > When will people figure out that it's worse to wake up > in the morning and say "Sh*t, I have no planet" than to > say "Sh*t, I have no job."? Preserving land is a good thing within reason. Far more important is controlling and working toward eliminating pollution of our air and water. If you have X amount of money for the environment, where would you have it go - to new technology that will help eliminate it or to using government money to buy up any open space just because the neighbors want their property values to increase, as is often the case here in California. They held up a much needed freeway here for years, wasting millions, based on saving part of some bird's habitat. What is worse - the bird losing some habitat or people in their cars idling on clogged highways and freeways for hours every day adding grossly to the air pollution? KakkiGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:51:36 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results Oh Colin, I work so hard at being a different kind of dyke.........it's all in vain I see. This might help, I've got a tattoo of George W. Lori, you don't have one too do you? :) > Colin, are you implying that you can't tell the difference between > Kasey and me??? ; ) well...you know what they say...all dykes are the same....Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:53:56 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Fw: election's big loser (njc) (pc) Hey....catsup on cottage cheese! Now that is gross! (I have a sister that does that) How bout a little fries with your catsup? >Gee Mark, I've had some rank ketchup from the >old greasy spoons. I'm sure some of it was toxic, put >some on a burger, ate a hole right through it. Put some >on the fries, they just curled up. Put some on a dawg, >you guessed it.........it barked. > >So is it better to just throw that bottle in the garbage > > or recycle it using a gallon or so to make it clean? > > > > Bree > >Oh, come on! The water goes down the drain and back into the water supply, >doesn't it? Or am I missing something here? It's not like you're pouring >toxic waste into it or urinating in it before it goes down the drain. It's >not like you used it to scrub your toilet or rinse out the cat box. So >there's a little ketchup in it? Is that gonna hurt anybody? Since when >did >a little ketchup ever hurt anybody? Well, maybe on scrambled eggs, but >just >a little watered down ketchup going down the drain? Come on! > >Mark E. in Seattle >(trying to sound like Murphy Brown, in my head anyway)Get more from the >Web. >FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 02:59:15 -0500 From: "PAUL PETERSON" Subject: NJC the election weird postings about the republican win being not so bad, it's not about oil, blah, blah, blah. yeah all your friends are switching to the republican party. you know why? because basically there's only one party anyway, so why bother calling yourself a democrat when the values and voting record of your party are hardly distinguishable from the republicans? the disgusting cave in of the democrats over the tax cut and the 'war' are proof that the democrats basically stand for NOTHING that threatens their re-election or their future place in the corporate greed machine. the horror of this election is that the united states electorate is so ill informed that they can give an attractive figurehead regular guy like GW Bush a 67% approval rating while he and his cronies are picking their pockets and sending their children to their deaths over , yes, oil rights and profits. (do i hear screaming? well scream away. it won't make what is obvious untrue) we finally have the game show host president, so charming, and doesn't he read the teleprompter well! He's so much better at it than last year. I don't see any way out of this mess, and certainly have no more faith in Democrats to bring about change. I'm never voting for either party again. As pointless as it may seem now, I am strictly voting third party. Somewhat like voting 'no' in Soviet Russia or Iraq, and just about as effective. But I have to start somewhere. Beyond that, try to fight the stranglehold that our political system has become every day in whatever way might inch us to change and true democracy. Or.......just throw in the towel and move to Canada. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #467 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)