From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #465 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 6 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 465 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: those songs you just really love ["Don Whiteman" ] Re: Nirvana jazz njc [FredNow@aol.com] Manilow covers River ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: goosebump songs NJC ["Paul Castle" ] Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results [Deb Messling ] (njc) I VOTED! ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Fw: NJC - those songs you really just love [TerryM2222@aol.com] Re: Dylan concerts ["Lori Fye" ] RE: Missing JMDL Digests! ["Yensen, Stephen" ] Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results [vince ] NJC America has spoken ["kasey simpson" ] Re: NJC America has spoken [Jerry Notaro ] RE: songs that "make me shiver" :) njc ["Heather" ] Re: Songs we love NJC [Mags N Brei ] RE: those songs you just really love ["Heather" ] Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results ["kasey simpson" ] Re: Songs we love NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Covers, Volume 34 - You Are So Busted Muller(NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results ["Lori Fye" ] Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results ["kasey simpson" ] Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results ["Lori Fye" ] Re: NJC America has spoken ["Sybil Skelton" ] Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results ["kasey simpson" ] Re: Covers, Volume 34 - You Are So Busted Muller(NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results ["Lori Fye" ] Joni art for sale ["J.David Sapp" ] NJC Paul in drag? ["Lavieri, Vince [185776]" ] Fw: NJC Paul in drag? ["kasey simpson" ] Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results ["kasey simpson" ] Re: NJC Paul in drag? ["Lori Fye" ] Re: NJC Paul in drag? ["Lavieri, Vince [185776]" ] Re: NJC Paul in drag? ["Cynthia Vickery" ] To Joni ["Russell Bowden" ] Republicans and Recount$ (NJC) ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Songs we love NJC ["Paul Castle" ] happy birthday ["joe farrell" ] RE: Songs you love. njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Fw: NJC Paul in drag? ["kasey simpson" ] Re: those songs you really just HATE (njc) ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: NJC America has spoken ["Erica Trudelle" ] Re: those songs you really just HATE (njc) ["Erica Trudelle" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #463 [Kardinel@aol.com] Re: Desert Island discs ["Reuben Bell" ] Re: Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results [colin Subject: Re: those songs you just really love anything by Michael Hedges Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 03:10:20 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: November 6 1965: Joni performs at The Chess Mate in Detroit. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 03:25:47 -0500 From: dsk Subject: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results My god, the Republicans have gotten control of not only the House but the Senate, too! I cannot believe that with so much unemployment, the failing economy, bin Laden and Qaeda still active, the upcoming bombing of Iraq, and such a conservative simpleton for president, that so many people have voted for the Republicans! So, anyone who thinks there's no difference between Democrats and the conservative Republicans now in charge, well, starting in January when the new Congress is sworn in and all the chairmanships of the committees change, you will see how the conservative agenda plays out. Bush will not have to be bothered with any of that annoying compromising most presidents have to do. It might be a good idea to become a Baptist now because the government and religion are about to become intimately entwined. Prayers in schools anyone? Faith-based giving rather government social programs? Those are both on the conservative agenda. Let's just forget about that separation of state and religion idea that Democrats like so much. Oh, and save all your pennies for when you don't have a job, because the Republicans don't like people to get unemployment benefits (that's one of those Democratic things). And a gas mask and bomb shelter might be a good idea, especially in the big cities, since those Repubs think bombing other countries is A-OK, especially when there's lots of oil to share with countries willing to help us go in and take it, and personal fortunes to be made from all those military contracts. Think that bombing's not going to get some of those people a little upset? Good luck everyone! This is heartbreaking. Frightening. And maddening. I'm going to lay low for a few days. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 03:28:10 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: song to a seagull "Kate Bennett" writes: >Joni talking about recording STAS with Crosby: > > One of the things that we did that was kind of fun because of what had >to be done to clean up the tape, a lot of it was lost, he had me sing a lot >of it into a grand piano with the ringing pedal down. So every note I sang >repeated itself in the strings. If you sing into a grand piano, the notes >on the strings reproduce the sound of your voice, that s the amazing thing. >It was so beautiful. He had so many ideas. He was really good. << In my college days, way back in the early 30s, I wrote a piece for several horns and rhythm section, and the horn players stood around the piano playing right into it while I held the damper pedal down (which releases the dampers allowing the strings to vibrate freely in response to the stimulus of the horns). It was called "The Listening Well." It's kind of like the reverb of a huge cathedral or concert hall (or studio reverb) only it has more overtones and harmonics ... I call it "pitched reverb." A good example is Paul Horn's classic album "Inside," flute recorded in the Taj Mahal. In conjunction with the thick clouds of reverb, the usually monophonic flute becomes a chordal instrument. (By the way, Horn later recorded "Blue" and a couple of other Joni songs.) - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:34:34 +0000 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re: goosebump songs njc Mack wrote: >>s<< wa thi the hortet meage ever on thi lit? mike in barcelona NP this time the joke's on me - Harry Allen Quartet - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 03:41:06 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Nirvana jazz njc anne@sandstrom.com writes: >With all this talk about songs we love and hate, I have >to add a question about something I heard the other >day. It was a jazzy piano version of the Nirvana song >"All Apologies." It blew me away when I realized what >the melody was. Does anyone know who does it? Thanks! It's Herbie Hancock, on his great album New Standard, which features fresh takes on "Mercy Street," "Norwegian Wood," "Scarborough Fair," "New York Minute," "Thieves In the Temple," and "All Apologies," among others. A brilliant record. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 01:03:55 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Manilow covers River yes, she owns her own publishing from what i understand >>Hmmm ...does she still get royalties for the covers of her songs? Heather<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:38:32 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: goosebump songs NJC Ken KJHSF@aol.com included: > From a Late Night Train; Easter Parade/ the Blue Nile > Shotgun Down the Avalanche; If I Were Brave/ Shawn Colvin I spoke to Shawn Colvin before her last tour over here and she reminisced about her UK tour supporting Blue Nile. Their first album 'A Walk Across the Rooftops' had been their 'record of the road' on her first visit to the UK - playing in Suzanne Vega's band in 1987 - so she was thrilled to support them in her own right on their 1990 'Hats' tour - "For a band who so rarely play gigs", she said, "you can imagine what playing in their home town of Glasgow on the final night of the tour was like!" My goosebump-ers from these two: Downtown Lights from the Blue Nile 'Hats' album - when the guitar comes in - yikes! Polaroids (from 'Fat City') - which she started writing on a clifftop in the southern English seaside town of Southsea - when she was touring in the Richard Thompson Band. PaulC NP: The Well by Diane Zeigler (from her new one, 'Paintbrush') God - Ashara will like this - and fellow 'wanderers' - really lovely open tuning chord sequence on this track. I'm predicting that her version of Dave Carter's 'Gentle Soldier of the Soul' is going to be a big hit in the UK - seems we all need this song right now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:23:46 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results I bet the first headline we'll see after the new Senate is sworn in will be "Rehnquist retires." With a Republican Senate, Bush will be able to appoint right-wingers to all the courts. The effect of THAT tragedy will last for decades. It will last the rest of my life. We can kiss Roe v Wade goodbye. Maybe we can even kiss Miranda goodbye. Maybe even Brown v Board. At 03:25 AM 11/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >My god, the Republicans have gotten control of not only the House but >the Senate, too! > > Let's just forget about that separation >of state and religion idea that Democrats like so much. Oh, and save all >your pennies for when you don't have a job, because the Republicans >don't like people to get unemployment benefits (that's one of those >Democratic things). And a gas mask and bomb shelter might be a good >idea, especially in the big cities, since those Repubs think bombing >other countries is A-OK, - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/02 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:13:06 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Manilow covers River Heather wrote: > First I heard of this too. > > I'm sure *she* will approve of the royalty pennies :-" > Hmmm ...does she still get royalties for the covers of her songs? Are you kidding? Our Joan has her First Communion money. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:28:26 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (njc) I VOTED! And it didn't do a damn bit of good. It's a sure sign that things are heading straight to hell when Bobby Kennedy's daughter isn't elected in the very Democratic, free state of Maryland. As for the U.S. House and Senate ... well. I'm seriously depressed, but guess what? For the next several years at least, the GOP won't be able to blame all the f***-ups to come on anyone but THEMSELVES. (Although they will surely try.) Lori ~ http://lrfye.lunarpages.com ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:33:07 EST From: TerryM2222@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: NJC - those songs you really just love .........just off the top of my head cuz I can't think in the a.m.: All time fav song- Over the Rainbow- J. Garland Maria- from W. Side Story Yesterday- Beatles Secret O' Life- J.Taylor (tho his new album has stolen my heart) Something of Sting's- maybe Shape of my Heart or Valparaiso Here Comes the Sun- Beatles/George Case of You/Heijira/Song for Sharon by JM Almost anything by Dionne Warwick Terry-missing in action-M www.addconsults.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:36:01 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Dylan concerts From Smurf: > Quoting from a Variety review of Dylan, Jerry writes: > > << no other contempo performer can hold a candle to > his body of work. >> > > ROTFLMAO! > > I can think of at least one other performer who can hold a friggin' > BONFIRE to Dylan's body of work! Any guesses? (Hint: Guess correctly > and you can remove the NJC tag.) Maybe the writer meant to say "no > other MALE contempo performer . . ." AND she can SING!!!!!!!!! Lori ~ http://lrfye.lunarpages.com ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:38:02 +0000 From: "Yensen, Stephen" Subject: RE: Missing JMDL Digests! Thanks to all of you who replied. I've now been told where to find them in the archives. Cheers, Steve in Nottingham, England ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:43:25 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results Deb Messling wrote: > I bet the first headline we'll see after the new Senate is sworn in will be > "Rehnquist retires." With a Republican Senate, Bush will be able to > appoint right-wingers to all the courts. The effect of THAT tragedy will > last for decades. It will last the rest of my life. We can kiss Roe v Wade > goodbye. Maybe we can even kiss Miranda goodbye. Maybe even Brown v Board. That us exactly right. O'Conner will retire too. Bush raised something like $193 million in soft money and it bought some narrow victories, and now this nation will lurch to the far right. The environment as well will take a huge hit. To echo Debra, everyone who says there is no difference between the parties is speaking loosely on the margins. There are real reasons there are two parties and now there is nothing to brake the stampede of what is to come. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:47:10 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 34 - You Are So Busted Muller(NJC) In a message dated 11/5/2002 10:33:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, johnsonjs@earthlink.net writes: > It's you and Christina, isn't it? Not to mention the fact > that, "you promptly misplaced the info about who it was." That's something > I would do, but NOT YOU! "Some Australian band playing in > a club setting." > You are so funny!! This was the trick - right? Oh Jody, you are such a silly girl! I wish it was Christina & I, but you can tell that the guy's "down under" accent is legit, unlike mine which makes Hell roll her eyes... Anyway, I would LOVE to duet with Christina, but it wouldn't be to BYT...I've grown tired of that one, at least in its original arrangement. Glad you're digging the covers! Bob NP: Rachel Z Trio, "Lakota" (my review coming up later) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:52:48 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Life as a star in N'awlins (NJC) In a message dated Wed, 6 Nov 2002 05:50:56 +0100, christi@dsr.kvl.dk writes: > If I get this on a recording, I'll of course have to > first give a copy to the lord of covers, Muller, and you > can try and see if > he'll make one for you. Well, I suppose being the "lord of covers" runs a distant second to "lord of masculinity", but I'll take what titles I can get...perhaps Les will double my salary like he did last year! ;~) As for a live version of CC "BYT", I have one already - matter of fact, I got it BEFORE I knew they were doing a studio take on it, and I like the studio take a lot better. Thanks for the report Christina - please continue to share your N'awlins adventures! (Just don't rub it in TOO much) :~) Bob NP: Rolling Stones, "Jumping Jack Flash" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:55:16 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Missing JMDL Digests! Steve, you can follow the links from the JMDL site to access old digests...you'll wind up here: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/ The two digests you want are there. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:59:14 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Songs we love NJC In a message dated 11/6/2002 1:24:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, frasere@intergate.ca writes: > I am finally internet accessable after many months, and it > is great to be back > on the list! Stephen my man!! So glad to see you back here...there's been an empty place where you used to be. So start yakkin! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:02:27 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers #34 - we have a winner! In a message dated 11/3/2002 3:46:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, davidmarine@mindspring.com writes: > You Dream Flat Tires -- Wild Things Run Fast Call out the Marines! Well, David Marine, anyway...because YOU are the winner of "Covers, Volume 34"! YAY! Please let me know where to send it, David... My actual track of choice was "Ladies Man", but David's guess was the closest. Thanks to all who ventured a guess, I was happy with the turnout - and of course, more to come, so don't be despondent. And if you want a copy of the cd anyway, lemme know and we'll make it happen. Bob NP: Rolling Stones, "Sad Sad Sad" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:13:08 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Dylan concerts Lori Fye wrote: From Smurf: > Quoting from a Variety review of Dylan, Jerry writes: > > << no other contempo performer can hold a candle to > his body of work. >> > > ROTFLMAO! > > I can think of at least one other performer who can hold a friggin' > BONFIRE to Dylan's body of work! Any guesses? (Hint: Guess correctly > and you can remove the NJC tag.) Maybe the writer meant to say "no > other MALE contempo performer . . ." AND she can SING!!!!!!!!! and now Mags confesses: gee guys, I just cannot for the life of me figure out WHO you mean???? LOL i sort of think it might be this Canadian chick I saw a couple of times but Im not sure....being a Canadian and all..you know, I just dont like going out on a limb or diving into unknown territory like this. np: shades of scarlett conquering. ~ http://lrfye.lunarpages.com ~ You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:14:05 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: NJC America has spoken I know many of you think I'm celebrating the victory in yesterdays election......ok I am. However, it is the American people that have spoken. Many had to cross party lines for this to happen, so it just may be time for the democratic party to take a look at it's platform. If the republicans do as some of you have said, they will be out in the next election. That is the way the system works. Votes do count, and I respect any, and all who care enough to vote, and stay informed. I may not always agree with you, but you do always have my respect, because you care. KaseyGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:18:08 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: NJC America has spoken And one thing is for sure. They can no longer blame the Democrats for what they fail to get done in Congress. Jerry kasey simpson wrote: > I know many of you think I'm celebrating the victory in > yesterdays election......ok I am. However, it is the American > people that have spoken. Many had to cross party lines for this > to happen, so it just may be time for the democratic party to take > a look at it's platform. If the republicans do as some of you have > said, they will be out in the next election. That is the way the system > works. Votes do count, and I respect any, and all who care enough to > vote, and stay informed. I may not always agree with you, but you > do always have my respect, because you care. > KaseyGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:30:40 -0500 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: songs that "make me shiver" :) njc Amen to that! Heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Mark or Travis Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:41 PM To: mack watson-bush; JMDL Subject: Re: songs that "make me shiver" :) njc <> Judy was one of a kind and there will never be another like her. Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:30:18 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Songs we love NJC Stephen wrote: > I am finally internet accessable after many months, and it > is great to be back > on the list! and then Bob said: Stephen my man!! So glad to see you back here...there's been an empty place where you used to be. So start yakkin! :~) wow two of my bros in one post...almost too much for me to bear heehee! Welcome back Stephen!!!! Looking forward to seeing more of you on the list :-))anywaaaay...here's some of the songs that i love. many of which make me cry (what a surprise!!): (and you know...there ARE more..) a few of my Jonis are: river, case of you, shades of scarlett conquering, jericho, magdalene laundries, amelia ... too many to list ..all depends on what's going on in my life...! (yes i know, ive left out sooo many). Roads, Portishead, Dummy (brilliant CD overall). The Sea, Sandy Denny Family Tree, Venice Ferry Cross the Mersey, Gerry and the Pacemakers Nature's Way, Spirit The Ark, Gerry Rafferty, City to City Try A Little Tenderness, ? the Living Years, Mike and the Mechanics, reminds me so much of my own Dad. Green Eyed Lady Arrow of Light, All the Diamonds, Bruce Cockburn Full Circle, Loreena McKennitt I Want You, Holly Cole, the perfect song for my honeyboi Carry On, Guinnevere, the boys. so many, many more Im not listing.... this is a great thread! Mags np: Sweet Bird You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:34:41 -0500 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: those songs you just really love Oh yes! Java Man does it for me. Heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Don Whiteman Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:01 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: those songs you just really love anything by Michael Hedges Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:33:52 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results You are right, there are some differences, and the American people chose which way they wanted to go. That stampede you hear is the majority of the people voting for changes. To echo Debra, everyone who says there is no difference between the parties is speaking loosely on the margins. There are real reasons there are two parties and now there is nothing to brake the stampede of what is to come. VinceGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:48:25 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Songs we love NJC In a message dated 11/6/2002 9:30:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, magsnbrei@yahoo.com writes: > many of which make me cry (what a surprise!!) Mags, I can imagine that you could be moved to cry at a commercial jingle! :~) But don't change a thing, you're loved the way you are, you super-sensitive thang! I just feel sorry for honeyboi, whose Kleenex budget is probably over the moon! As for Sugarloaf's "Green-Eyed Lady", this has made a couple of lists and should have been on mine. I loved the song when it was a 3-minute single (reminds me of summer days at the pool), and boy was I thrilled to discover the 7-minute LP version! And that whole LP is good too...a bit psychedelic and dated, but then again so am I. ;~) Stupid politicians come & go, but good music stays with us forever - ain't it great!! Bob NP: Rolling Stones, "Love Train" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:57:54 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 34 - You Are So Busted Muller(NJC) In a message dated 11/6/2002 8:48:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > Oh Jody, you are such a silly girl! I wish it was Christina & I, but you can > tell that the guy's "down under" accent is legit, unlike mine which makes > Hell roll her eyes... > Bob, I thought you pulled a trick on us too when I read Jody's post. I hadn't listened that far on the CD, but when I did..........I thought it was your "ooooo bop bop bop" backing up BYT. Of course when I listened to Christina and Hennings version on the same CD, I realized Christina's voice is much prettier than the Australian band in question. Anyway, thanks for another great cover. Besides the Big Yellow Taxi songs (which I already have), I really like "You Dream Flat Tires" by My Flexible Friends. Are they gymnasts? :~) I also really dig David West's blue grass version of "Woodstock". Thanks again. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:08:44 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results > There are real reasons there are two parties and now there is nothing > to brake the stampede of what is to come. Sure there is. Elephant guns. L ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:11:26 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Missing JMDL Digests! (NJC) Good morning, Stephen! > I am missing two JMDL digests, nos. 457 and 461. Is there a kind > soul out there who could send me them please? > > It appears that I cannot request them from majordomo, unless anyone > knows any better? Browse on over to: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/ There you will find all the digests available for your reading enjoyment. Best, Lori ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:11:51 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results Yes, guns. Always an answer to peace. But then we might not have that available if stricter gun control is passed. Oh, it won't.......REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE HOUSE! Kasey > There are real reasons there are two parties and now there is nothing > to brake the stampede of what is to come. Sure there is. Elephant guns. L ~Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:21:10 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results > Yes, guns. Always an answer to peace. But then > we might not have that available if stricter gun control > is passed. Oh, it won't.......REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE HOUSE! That's right. They do. And what goes around comes around. So when they come knocking on my door, bibles in hand, they'd best get the hell off my porch or ... BLAM! L ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:24:40 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: NJC Oops I wonder if he wants to change his opinion? "Tonight was a good night for Democrats" Terry McAuliffe, DNC Chairman on CNN Larry King 11/06/02 NBCbs Tim Russert: Now, you said in The New York Times last week, bJeb Bush is gone.b You want to take those words back? McAuliffe: Of course not. Ibve very excited about whatbs going on in Florida. Russert: Hebs going to lose guaranteed? McAuliffe: Yep. That is why the president was down there yesterday for his 13th visit. People in Florida are energized. Theybve already started the early voting. And if you look at Broward and Dade counties, there are lines already, huge lines, people--record vote coming out in Florida... we are going to win Florida which is going to set us up, Tim, very nicely for 2004. (NBCbs bMeet The Press,b November 3, 2002) Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily nowGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:27:15 -0600 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: NJC America has spoken >However, it is the American people that have spoken. As much as I try to stay out of political discussions, this reminded me of something my son said to me years ago when he was still in grade school: "just because something's popular don't make it right." Smart boy that one - obviously gets it from his mom. Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:27:36 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results Lori, Bibles? You would shoot someone with a bible? But are against war? Now do you see why, REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE HOUSE? > Yes, guns. Always an answer to peace. But then > we might not have that available if stricter gun control > is passed. Oh, it won't.......REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE HOUSE! That's right. They do. And what goes around comes around. So when they come knocking on my door, bibles in hand, they'd best get the hell off my porch or ... BLAM! L ~Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 10:34:58 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 34 - You Are So Busted Muller(NJC) In a message dated Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:57:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, FMYFL writes: > I really like "You Dream Flat Tires" by My Flexible > Friends. Are they gymnasts? :~) Not that I know of! They are a really cool band, though. They have 2 cd's out, and I picked both of them up with the help of my pal Helga! Unfortunately they are not easy to get, but you can pick them up by contacting the band. Their cd's can be seen at: http://www.my-flexible-friends.de/files/htmIntro.htm They REALLY make some interesting choices in terms of covers. Besides the ONLY band to do "Tires", they do lots of more obscure songs by Tom Waits, Sting, and many others. As they are a vocal/bass/drum trio, their sound is very unique and they bring a unique perspective to the songs. One of the things I hope this Covers Project does is help some great artists get some added exposure. My Flexible Friends certainly deserves it. Bob, who just had a flat tire last night! And it wasn't a dream... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:45:56 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results > Lori, > Bibles? You would shoot someone with a bible? Sure, why not? "We" would shoot someone with a copy of the Koran, wouldn't "we"?? > But are against war? I'm against war that breaks more than it fixes. And as you'll recall, I served 10+ years in the U.S. military, so I think I've earned my right to my opinions about war and our inept Dept of Defense. > Now do you see why, REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE HOUSE? Yes, I do see why. As usual, not enough people got off their asses and voted. Democrats are notorious for being disorganized. And all the folks who (especially since 9/11) want to believe that Bush and his ilk are doing all the right things voted in droves. Of course - imo - these are the same people who wish life was non-stop "Happy Days" and "Leave It To Beaver," people who don't really want to THINK but who would rather just place their faith in someone who SEEMS to represent a return to a safe way of life. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... I'm feeling kind of bitter today, and I've already promised myself to get off my own ass and get involved with the system (as much as I detest it), RIGHT NOW, so we won't have a repeat of this tragedy. Although it may be too late. As Deb pointed out, any hope for balance on the U.S. Supreme Court during the rest of my lifetime is now pretty much gone. But ... never give up. Die trying. Lori ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:45:25 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: Songs we love NJC mags wrote: )anywaaaay...here's some of the songs that i love. many of which make me cry (what a surprise!!): >(and you know...there ARE more..) >a few of my Jonis are: river, case of you, shades of scarlett conquering, >jericho, magdalene laundries, amelia ... too many to list ..all depends on >what's going on in my life...! (yes i know, ive left out sooo many). Joni is so hard to list for that reason, however, Two Grey Rooms is still on the top of the list for me. Other songs that I love: Emmie- Laura Caravan Tonight- Steven Grossman (how many of the 'boys'out there know who HE is?) Too Good to Be Through-Patti La Belle Do You Love Me Still- Chaka Khan (She wrote this with Bruce Hornsby) Crystal Blue Persuasion- Tommy James and the Shondelles (childhood memories with my older cousins) So many of the others have already been listed... NPIMH: Captain St. Lucifer; Laura -another favorite Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:32:04 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Joni art for sale This from Rolling Stone Daily for 11/6: The JANET JACKSON puppet from "Celebrity Death Match" is for sale at the LIFEbeat Sound of Art Auction on November 12th in New York City; also available is artwork by JONI MITCHELL and MARILYN MANSON peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:31:55 -0500 From: "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" Subject: NJC Paul in drag? it was posted: "Now do you see why, REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE HOUSE? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ..." In reference to the HAHA bullshit, being childish and immature is so much fun, isn't it. That type of comment reminds me of the sarcasm we used to get from Paul. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:44:54 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: NJC Paul in drag? Of course this is nothing like the open letter we read from the Committee against uppity people. it was posted: "Now do you see why, REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE HOUSE? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ..." In reference to the HAHA bullshit, being childish and immature is so much fun, isn't it. That type of comment reminds me of the sarcasm we used to get from Paul. VinceGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:56:37 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results > Lori, > Bibles? You would shoot someone with a bible? Sure, why not? "We" would shoot someone with a copy of the Koran, wouldn't "we"?? No, I wouldn't, nor would anyone I know. > But are against war? I'm against war that breaks more than it fixes. As am I, we do agree on this. And as you'll recall, I served 10+ years in the U.S. military, so I think I've earned my right to my opinions about war and our inept Dept of Defense. Service or not, you have the right to your opinions. > Now do you see why, REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE HOUSE? Yes, I do see why. As usual, not enough people got off their asses and voted. Democrats are notorious for being disorganized. And all the folks who (especially since 9/11) want to believe that Bush and his ilk are doing all the right things voted in droves. Of course - imo - these are the same people who wish life was non-stop "Happy Days" and "Leave It To Beaver," people who don't really want to THINK but who would rather just place their faith in someone who SEEMS to represent a return to a safe way of life. Why would you want a group that is 'notorious for being disorganized' to be in charge of the government? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... I'm feeling kind of bitter today, and I've already promised myself to get off my own ass and get involved with the system (as much as I detest it), RIGHT NOW, so we won't have a repeat of this tragedy. Lori, you may take this as a dig, but I am very sincere when I say good for you. Stay involved, that is the true checks, and balances in our system. Although it may be too late. As Deb pointed out, any hope for balance on the U.S. Supreme Court during the rest of my lifetime is now pretty much gone. Well, you still got your elephant gun:) But ... never give up. Die trying. You go girl! ~Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:19:59 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: NJC Paul in drag? Vince, just to clarify, did you write both of these sentences? > In reference to the HAHA bullshit, being childish and > immature is so much fun, isn't it. > That type of comment reminds me of the sarcasm we used to > get from Paul. Also to clarify, Kasey didn't write "HAHAHAHAHAHA ..." I did. I wrote: > people who don't really want to THINK but who would rather just place > their faith in someone who SEEMS to represent a return to a safe way > of life. > > HAHAHAHAHAHA ... And, just for the record, I am feeling a bit immature today. Just letting off steam before I start packing for Guam or Mexico or ... well, Alabama is warm and apparently has still a Democrat for a governor! : ) Lori ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:35:20 -0500 From: "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" Subject: Re: NJC Paul in drag? Lori wrote: Also to clarify, Kasey didn't write "HAHAHAHAHAHA ..." I did. The way it came up in my email it looked like the hahahaha was written as a tag line to something else. So I read it in a way that was not right, but garbled by the quoting of emails. Context is everything and the way my screen showed the email, it was distorted, and thus I thought it was written and placed other than what it was. With this information, then I apologise for kasey since now I know it was not her writing something to rub it in our faces since she didn't write that. Sorry, kasey, I apologise. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:31:27 -0600 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: Re: NJC Paul in drag? <> that chicken isn't quiiiiite hatched yet, but keep your fingers crossed!! the republicans are still claiming victory, too. what is it about those darned republicans and their recounts? no punch ballots here, though, so at least we can avoid a rerun of the chad debate! http://www.al.com/newsflash/election/index.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?j7499_BC_ELN--AlabamaGovernor&&news&al_election cindy, in sunny and warm(-ish) birmingham, alabama! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:47:17 -0800 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: To Joni Dear Ms. Joni Mitchell, From your most devoted admirer in Alameda, CA; Have a very happy and peaceful birthday. Also wishing much success with 'Travelogue'. If you're ever in the San Francisco area, lunch/dinner is on me. Much respect and affection, Russ Bowden. .......(I'm 'Too Far From the Bay of Fundy' clam chowder in your cookbook. I'd be delighted to whip some up for you!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:47:32 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Republicans and Recount$ (NJC) Cindy asked: > what is it about those darned republicans and their recounts? It's just like Republicans and money: they want it ALL! L. ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:52:39 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: Songs we love NJC Mags wrote: > ...here's some of the songs that i love. many of which > make me cry (what a surprise!!): >The Sea, Sandy Denny and if you'd ever lived in a leaking house in London Town on a rainy day like today, you'd be crying even more ;-) Absolutely love this song too. PaulC From her lyrics page at http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/sandy.denny/songs/lyrics.html#T The Sea by Sandy Denny Do I ever wonder? You don't know. You'll never follow, and I'll never show. D'you see the water and watch it flow And float an empty shell, And you think that I'm hiding from the island. You've a fault in your senses. Can you feel it now? Time? What is that? I've no time to care. I've lived for a long while nearly everywhere. You will be taken, everyone, you ladies and you gentlemen. Fall and listen with your ears upon the paving stone. Is that what you hear? The coming of the sea? Sea flows under your doors in London town. And all your defences are all broken down. You laugh at me on funny days, but mine's the slight of hand. Don't you know I am a joker, a deceiver? And I'm waiting for the land. (Copyright ) 1970 Warlock Music) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:22:47 -0000 From: "joe farrell" Subject: happy birthday Just want to wish Joni a really Happy Birthday. Thanks for all the great music over the years and that which is still to come(hopefully). Have a great day. Love, Joe Farrell. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:06:04 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: RE: Songs you love. njc I love the crashing, gnashing sound of these syllables: "Crazy latin dancin' solo down in Herald Square. Oh Havana, I've been searchin' for you everywhere." Then he begins to soar erratically, seemingly without a resolution. The way he sings this is totally wacky, and builds tension: "And though I'll never be there I know what I WOULD SEE there." And the resolution, back to the title: "I can always find my Cuban skies in Rosalinda's eyes." Most of all, though, I love the idea that he's searching for something but vows: "I'll return before the fire dies in Rosalinda's eyes." From: Jenny Goodspeed [mailto:jrgoodspeed@yahoo.com] Ah Jim, Rosalinda's Eyes was on the list in my head! ..even tho' I only mentioned Nocturne and Vienna. This is definitely one of my favorites. It's all those yummy suspended and major 7th chords that help make the lyric shine. Jenny [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Outdoors_Roll_B_JENNY_YAEL_Lama.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:13:56 -0600 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: NJC Paul in drag? Vince, Apology accepted. One more thing, I am sorry I apear to be the type to 'rub it in your face'. I am happy with the out come of the elections. However, no one person or party can be right 100% of the time. I enjoy debates, (inteligent,informed debates) because it helps me to reach an informed opinion. I don't want to follow anyone mindlessly. I would hope all that voted feel that way. By the way, I've been compared to this Paul guy several times, who is he? I know Bree said he was removed from the list, but who is he? Kasey Sorry, kasey, I apologise. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:49:54 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: those songs you really just HATE (njc) And #1 on my List is: "Babe" by Styx Can't stand that song, makes me cringe, yucky yuck. ;) > >I just had this conversation a few days ago with a friend. > >#1 on my list: Puff The Magic Dragon - Peter Paul & Mary > >I hated the song when it came out, and I was just 5 years old. I hate >it as much today, at 44 crabby years of age. > >Lori > >~ _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:57:58 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: those songs you really just HATE (njc) In a message dated 11/6/2002 1:49:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, donjuansrd80@hotmail.com writes: > And #1 on my List is: > "Babe" by Styx > Can't stand that song, makes me cringe, yucky yuck. Great pick, Blair...that is a nasty bastard of a song. DeYoung's voice is nails on a chalkboard anyway, and on this song he gets on my last nerve! I'd add ANYTHING by REO Speedwagon...I cannot bear them. Bob NP: Arrested Development, "Washed Away" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:06:27 -0500 From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: Judy Collins I'm a fan of "Hard Times For Lovers" as well. Its a strange album, but it really works for me. "Marie" and "I Remembers Sky" are so sad, as is "Dorothy", which could have been really lame song, but come off very well. I also really like "Running For My Life" and "Times of Our Lives" from the early 80's. Similar to HTFL, with far flung topics and sounds. Reuben >>> "mack watson-bush" 10/30/02 09:35PM >>> Christopher wrote: > Any takers for "The Fifth Album"? or the "Recollections" compilation of > the early troubadour material? That's how I like her the best. A little bit too on the folksy side for me to be that enamored with either but enjoy them from time to time. However > cheesy "Hard Times For Lovers" has a place in my heart. What is your definition of cheesy? Surely not the same as mine as I find this album beautiful and by far my favorite by Judy thus far, although I only have 6 to date. Mack. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:06:30 -0500 From: "Erica Trudelle" Subject: Re: NJC America has spoken Most of the Republican victories that si saw were actaully won by a pretty small margin, I didn't get the feeling that there were many landslides....who knows, I think all poli-trick-ians are the same.....greed is partiless. Erica _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:22:33 -0500 From: "Erica Trudelle" Subject: Re: those songs you really just HATE (njc) I can't stomach "Moni Moni" or "White Wedding" by Billy Idol... REO Speedwagon doesn't do it for me either. Erica _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:38:34 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) Getting closer ... I dont want to be a nag, but its getting close to the wire for collecting donations for the Februarys National AIDS Marathon! If youve been planning to contribute, please do so soon. The deadline is December 1 (and Ive personally guaranteed the difference between what I collect and the $2,600 minimum). Its easy, and almost painless! : ) You can donate online by credit card: http://www.aidsmarathon.com/participant.jsp?runner=DCNO-3144 Or, if you prefer snail mail: http://lrfye.lunarpages.com/donorform.pdf If you've previously pledged an amount but can't commit to as much now, that's okay! Every bit helps!! Im doing 14 miles this weekend! Wish me luck!! And ... thank you, as always. Much love, Lori ~ http://lrfye.lunarpages.com ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:03:49 EST From: Kardinel@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #463 I think it's great you adopted an animal.I volunteered at the local humane society for over 2 years with cats. I still do things like make beds for the cats and give a donation at Christmas but after two years I just emotionally couldn't deal with all the animals who had to be put to sleep. I , myself, took two cats from the shelter. They are 10 and 5. They are named Hella and Hannah and I couldn't find two nicer animals anywhere. So thank you for saving a nice dog. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:12:05 -0500 From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: Desert Island discs And here are mine in no particular order: Judy Collins: Times Of Our Lives Cyndi Lauper: Shine Rufus Wainwright: Poses Joni Mitchell: Hejira Roland Orzabal: Tomcats Screaming Outside Siouxsie and the Banshees: The Rapture Everything But The Girl: Amplified Heart Kitchens of Distinction: Strange Free World Swing Out Sister: Somewhere Deep In The Night The Creatures: A Bestiary of The Creatures ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:13:19 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Fw: NJC PC unbelievable sickening U.S. election results kasey simpson wrote: > > Lori, > > Bibles? You would shoot someone with a bible? > > Sure, why not? "We" would shoot someone with a copy of the Koran, > wouldn't "we"?? > > No, I wouldn't, nor would anyone I know. > > > But are against war? > > I'm against war that breaks more than it fixes. > perhaps it is me, but i cannot tell who is writing what in these posts. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:21:47 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: those songs you really just HATE (njc) If anyone would like to read a whole book filled with songs they hate, Dave Barry's Book of Bad Songs is funny as hell. A little dated, so probably funniest for the boomer generation. At 02:22 PM 11/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >I can't stomach "Moni Moni" or "White Wedding" by Billy Idol... >REO Speedwagon doesn't do it for me either. > >Erica - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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