From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #408 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, October 6 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 408 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: October 5 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] "A Proposal to Listen" IMPORTANT [Claud9 ] All Hands on Deck: Iraq Vote Imminent - 800 number to the Capitol [Claud] Joni photo & brief mention in today's Toronto Star [Catherine McKay ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] "A Proposal to Listen" IMPORTANT (NJC) [Susan Gu] More on HOB night ["Darice(darice@mindspring.com)"] Jonifest 2002 CD Tree [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: More on HOB night ["kakki" ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] Joni photo & brief mention in today's Toronto Star [RoseMJoy@aol.] Fw: All Hands on Deck: Iraq Vote Imminent - 800 number to the Capitol (NJC!) ["kasey simpson" ] Diana Krall/Michael Brecker/James Taylor [BRIANASYMES@aol.com] Re: Jonifest 2002 CD Tree - njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Fw: All Hands on Deck: Iraq Vote Imminent - 800 number to the Capitol (NJC!) ["Brenda" Subject: "A Proposal to Listen" IMPORTANT Dear friends. I apologize for the missing NJC, but I feel many of you might like to know about this site since peace concerns us all, regardless of political beliefs. Please check out www.listenforpeace.org. The prospect of yet another war in this world is deeply disturbing and frightening. Along with many others, I wish for humanity to device a different process for resolving conflicts in this world. I hope you feel inclined to put your energy behind circulating "A Proposal to Listen" among your friends both nationally and internationally to 'water the seeds' for a peaceful listening process globally. (you can do it all on-line!) Only five weeks ago I experienced another incredible Jonifest weekend. How unfortunate that many people in this world never get to experience such a carefree, tolerant, loving, and sharing environment. I truly feel blessed. Please check it out. Peace, Claud9 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 07:35:25 -0400 From: Claud9 Subject: All Hands on Deck: Iraq Vote Imminent - 800 number to the Capitol There is an 800 number to the Capitol (I just called myself). The operator will forward your calls to any representative, senator, or the President. It is 1 800 839-5276. Please call immediately, request your senator or congress person, and state that you are opposed to the War on Iraq and ask that the senator or representative vote against: the Bush resolution. Everyone who feels motivated, please make your voice heard, again and again. It is so important to keep the pressure on in these next few days. Peace, Claud ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:45:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Joni photo & brief mention in today's Toronto Star Today's Toronto Star has an article on Yorkville, now a high-priced trendy area, but in the 60s a hippy haven full of coffee houses and clubs and our own Joan played there at the time. The article features a black and white photo of Joni that may appear elsewhere in the archives for all I know, but whether it does or it doesn't, you can see it here at: http://www.thestar.ca/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Render&c=Gallery&cid=1028902757054&colid=1028902756511 The full article, should you care to read it, doesn't have much JC, except for a brief mention in the following paragraph: "The flower children and bohemians could not withstand the wave of change as cheap rents disappeared and there was increasing pressure on the city to clean up what was becoming pricey and coveted commercial space. A story published in The Star in 1965 said the unthinkable was occurring in the bohemian haven. Yorkville was becoming squaresville as hip coffee houses, where folk singers such as Joni Mitchell and Gordon Lightfoot cut their teeth, were being replaced by posh nightspots for well-heeled teenagers. The Riverboat, one of the most famous of the coffee houses, was located at 134 Yorkville Ave., part of the row to be destroyed." Here's a link to the full article if you're intested: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1026146045757&call_page=TS_GTA&call_pageid=968350130169&call_pagepath=GTA/News&col=969483202845 ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:37:58 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #291 In a message dated 10/5/2002 3:01:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > And: I haven't even heard DED. Have been tempted to buy it numerous times > but the comments here have scared me away from doing so. Get it .. . It's a great recording ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:19:57 -0700 From: "Brenda" Subject: Re: All Hands on Deck: Iraq Vote Imminent - 800 number to the Capitol (NJC!) On 5 Oct 2002 at 7:35, Claud9 wrote: > There is an 800 number to the Capitol (I just called myself). The > operator will forward your calls to any representative, senator, or > the President. It is 1 800 839-5276. Please call immediately, > request your senator or congress person, and state that you are > opposed to the War on Iraq and ask that the senator or representative > vote against: the Bush resolution. > Or state that you support the war on Iraq and you want them to vote for the resolution. > Everyone who feels motivated, please make your voice heard, again and > again. It is so important to keep the pressure on in these next few > days. > Personally, I think this whole war push is ill-considered and ill-advised but I will fiercely defend the right of anyone (including the vocal minority on this list) to disagree with the war opposers and to have their voice heard. Brenda n.p.: Oakland v. Minnesota GO ANGELS! - -------------------------------------------- "Radio has no future" - Lord Kelvin, 1897 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:6:53 -0700 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: BYT Counting Crows Steve P and all... I posted that I had heard BYT by CC just a little over 2 months ago the day the CD was released. I heard it on KFOG (San Francisco) in my office.... Love, Russ From: "Steve Polifka" polifkas@milwaukee.tec.wi.us Subject: Counting Crows BYT Cover Hi all, A friend of mine just called to tell me that the Counting Crows do a cover of BYT on thier new CD Hard Candy. It is a hidden track about 4:50 into the last song, Holiday in Spain. Has anyone heard it yet? Steve - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:52:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] "A Proposal to Listen" IMPORTANT (NJC) Dear Claud, No need to apologize, I welcome your post and it's concerns. While some look for a way into war, it is refreshing to and hopeful to see others seeking an alternative. It is sad that our world has become so desensitized. To go to war with no conscience and to make it as easy as playing a video game, sickens and scares me. As you said just five short weeks ago, many of us were together and shared a weekend of love, music and tolerance. Perhaps, Jonifesters should take our gift to the world and handle all of these negotiations! I think we're gonna have to hold ourselves a peace talk! I will definitely do my part to "water the seeds" and will pass this along to others. Thank you. And I know I say this every post, but I really do mean it ... PEACE! Susan Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 15:54:25 -0400 From: "Darice(darice@mindspring.com)" Subject: More on HOB night Drat, I knew I should have stuck close to Pevar...after we spoke before the show. Check out Jeff's site (www.pevar.com), latest news for a picture of Joni at the HOB Nash show.... See her great smile..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 16:11:30 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Jonifest 2002 CD Tree I sent out all the mails last night to get things rolling on the CD Tree for Jonifest 2002. If you signed up for it and haven't seen any messages about it, let me know so you can be assigned to a branch. If you didn't sign up but changed your mind and want to, now's your chance for a last-minute grovel, unless your last name is Murphy in which case you're S.O.L. :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:45:10 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: More on HOB night Darice - thanks for this! Great photo! There's more of the band under the "Gallery" section, too. Here's Pevar's comment from the "Latest News" section: "Scheduled perfectly in the tour, Nash and Band rose to the occasion playing world reknowned Fillmore West and LA's HOB at the onset of October. "The crowd in LA was more attentive than I have ever seen at the LA House Of Blues. The room got absolutely silent for Nash and the fact that so many of his dear friends showed up in support, like Jackson and Joni, made it a very special event for all of us" Peev added." Darice wrote: > Drat, I knew I should have stuck close to Pevar...after we spoke before the > show. Check out Jeff's site (www.pevar.com), latest news for a picture of Joni at > the HOB Nash show.... > See her great smile..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 18:44:06 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Joni photo & brief mention in today's Toronto Star In a message dated 10/5/02 9:46:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > The > Riverboat, one of the most famous of the coffee > houses, was located at 134 Yorkville Ave., part of the > row to be destroyed." > No, no, no, this can't be!!!! Is there anyone trying to fight this and save the Riverboat? Thanks for the link Catherine. That sure is a beautiful foto of Joni. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:01:41 -0500 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: All Hands on Deck: Iraq Vote Imminent - 800 number to the Capitol (NJC!) And just how would you "fiercely" defend that right? I do support Bush on this. That choice is not some need to kick a-- rather a resignation that some people can not be "talked" with. You had a weekend of love and peace. I've had a lifetime of freedom in a country that has had to fight many wars. Why not get a group of JM listers and fly to Iraq? Play Sadam JM, and tell him you want peace. Then if he listens, and you come back alive, then call Washington and tell them how easy it is. I would prefer peace, I would prefer love, but history has shown us that is not always possible. I will place the call, and let them know I support Bush, Kasey > Everyone who feels motivated, please make your voice heard, again and > again. It is so important to keep the pressure on in these next few > days. > Personally, I think this whole war push is ill-considered and ill-advised but I will fiercely defend the right of anyone (including the vocal minority on this list) to disagree with the war opposers and to have their voice heard.Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:27:32 -0500 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: bree/thanks for the tip njc Bree, Thanks for the tip. See you by table next to elevator, level 2. Leaving 10-6-02 at noon, will be back 10-8-02 after 5pm. Tried to get some JM in but had a quiz to get to before leaving. I'll get to it when I get back. KaseyGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 23:49:54 EDT From: BRIANASYMES@aol.com Subject: Diana Krall/Michael Brecker/James Taylor Fresh back from the record store I purchased 2 CD's DK puts ACOY no.11 on her Live in Paris CD Coughing in the audience at the begining of the song sets the lone pianist in a Indigo bar in Paris.She toys with this song over its 6:50 minutes at 3.47 she even imitates joni singing "i can drink a case of you darling" in a Canadian plains dialect. Professor Higgins would be "AHHHHOO" with the pronuncing of some of the words during the song. Next song on the CD is Billy Joel's '"Just the way you are" and it features the fine tenor sax of Michael Brecker. The second CD I picked up was "Nearness of You" by Mr Brecker backed up by the Pat Methany,Herbie Hancock ,Charlie Haden Jack DeJohnette and James Taylor singing Don't let me be Lonely Tonight and a very sweet "The Nearness of You" does make you want to be dancing with Audrey Hepbun. With such stars, the notes reign down from the night sky in waves of shimmering bliss. Good night of I would like to read a review of DK's cover from others including our Kover King Brian Symes ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 02:01:02 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jonifest 2002 CD Tree - njc The alleged *nice* Bob writes: << now's your chance for a last-minute grovel, unless your last name is Murphy in which case you're S.O.L. >> How sad to see such bile and venom on a nice list like this. My heart goes out to Les, who tries so hard to make this a gentle place where people can meet like-minded Joni lovers and then have sex with them. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 23:52:51 -0700 From: "Brenda" Subject: Re: Fw: All Hands on Deck: Iraq Vote Imminent - 800 number to the Capitol (NJC!) On 5 Oct 2002 at 21:01, kasey simpson wrote: > And just how would you "fiercely" defend that right? I do support > Bush on this. That choice is not some need to kick a-- rather a > resignation that some people can not be "talked" with. You had a > weekend of love and peace. I've had a lifetime of freedom in a > country that has had to fight many wars. Why not get a group of JM > listers and fly to Iraq? Play Sadam JM, and tell him you want peace. > Then if he listens, and you come back alive, then call Washington and > tell them how easy it is. I would prefer peace, I would prefer love, > but history has shown us that is not always possible. I will place the > call, and let them know I support Bush, > Kasey > I'm feeling some antagonism in your response and I'm not sure why.....You quoted me so I take it your comment was addressed to me. I'm glad that you will place your call. That's why I wrote my email to begin with, to encourage anyone on the list who supports the war. It is democracy in action. I can fiercely defend the right without fighting. By being a citizen who participates in democratic and political processes and who speaks for a diversity of views and fully supports the expression of those views with the conviction of my belief in democracy, I feel that I am fiercely defending that right. By doing what I can in my work to lobby for media diversity, I'm defending that right. It's not fierce by its action; it's fierce by its conviction. I believe in democracy. I agree that some people cannot be talked with. I am not anti-war. However this war is NOT a defense of democracy. It is about domination. If you doubt that, read the "Defense Planning for Guidance" documents produced by the Office of the Secretary of Defense in 1992 (Cheney) and 2002 (Rumsfeld - basically Cheney by proxy) and the "Defense Strategy for the 1990's" also written by Cheney. I also recommend reading Rumsfeld's "Transforming the Military" published in the May/June issue of Foreign Affairs. This war is not another front in the war on terrorism; it is the culmination of a plan many years old. And as some Senate members asked this week during their remarks on the resolution, how are we going to pay for this war? In his radio address, President Bush pledged US support for rebuilding Iraq after a conflict. Nevermind the fact that he ran on a platform of not engaging in nation building - something that I know my fellow Republicans in my district considered important, how are we going to pay for this rebuilding after Saddam is gone? What will this mean for our relationships with our allies? Will we lose the support of countries (like Egypt) which have been critical in the war on terrorism? Are we giving nations with which we have tenuous relations at best (like China) or with which we've had hostile relations in the near past (like Russia) an issue on which to unite against us? Will most of the free world think that we are the bully on the block who needs to be stopped? Our President is taking a position that is not only in opposition to the UN security council (and permanent members China, Russia and France) but also undermines the UN generally. As I hear from my friends in Washington, even the multilateralists in the Bush administration think that this is unwise. What do you mean "a weekend of love and peace?" If you're talking about the fest, I didn't go, so I'm not sure what that has to do with what I wrote or the war on Iraq. This is not simply an issue of war or peace and I don't see how it can be reduced to those terms. Especially when the balance and security of a volatile region of the world (and the lives of millions of people who live there) are at stake. Our national security is dependent upon global security. Will a war in Iraq destabilize the region and thereby lead to reduced global security? Until the answer to that question is no, I'm against it - not because I'm a peacenik, but because I'm a pragmatist. Brenda n.p.: Dexter Gordon - "Darn That Dream" - ------------------------------ Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #408 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)