From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #400 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 1 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 400 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: October 1 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Re: Norah Jones [dsk ] Re: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums njc ["hell" ] Re: Six Feet Under - njc [colin ] GAP ad njc [colin ] RE: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums NJC [LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk] Re: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums, Bob, njc [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] NJC 10+ favorite soundtracks ["Robert Holliston" ] Covers 33 - loosed upon the world! [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Re: Joni an Actress? [Steve Polifka ] Fw: Covers 33 - loosed upon the world!njc ["kasey simpson" ] Re: desert island soundtracks NJC ["Sybil Skelton" ] Rolling Stone Readers Poll in Issue 907 [Engwall57@aol.com] Norah Jones (again) NJC ["joseph tischner" ] top 10 (11) desert island soundtracks njc [vince ] RE: Norah Jones (again) NJC ["Victor Johnson" ] Travelogue [dsk ] Re: Norah Jones ["Amelio Alamo" ] Re: Norah Jones (again) NJC ["Brenda" ] Re: Norah Jones ["Amelio Alamo" ] Re: Norah Jones [dsk ] Re: Norah Jones (again) NJC ["Sybil Skelton" ] Re: Norah Jones ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums njc ["Erica Trudelle" ] Re: Travelogue [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Rolling Stone Readers Poll in Issue 907 ["Amelio Alamo" ] Goodbye... ["Amelio Alamo" ] Re: Goodbye...njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Travelogue [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Mini UK fest...and new cover band! [Christoffer Gudi Sommer-Gleerup <] Re: Goodbye... [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: Travelogue [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: Goodbye... ["Amelio Alamo" ] Re: Norah Jones ["Brenda" ] Re: Goodbye...NJC ["Amelio Alamo" ] I Dream of Joni . . . again! [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Travelogue [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Re: Travelogue [dsk ] Re: Goodbye...NJC [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Re: Covers 33 - loosed upon the world! ["Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Norah Jones Steve T wrote: > > Yes one of the nicest voices I've ever heard! The first time I heard 'Don't > Know Why' in New York I had to buy the album 'Come Away Wth Me'. It is a > great album. Also Brian Blade plays on it! She's getting a lot of attention. I've seen her on tv and listened to some of her cd at the record store and found it so bland I didn't buy it. Sounded like jazz with no life to it to me. Her father is Ravi Shankar. According to what I've read he wasn't part of her life growing up (and perhaps not even now). Too bad. I think some of his influence on her music would make it more interesting. It would certainly be unique. Or so I imagine anyway. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:56:45 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums njc Bob wrote: > Harry Nilsson - The Point: I remember watching this on the ABC Tuesday > movie of the week, and then getting the LP (well, talking my sister into > getting it because she had a job) and listening to it over & over & over & > over.... That would have to be on my list as well - I don't have a copy now, but I LOVED it when I did have it many years ago! Others on my list would include (in no particular order): Boys On The Side Local Hero (Mark Knopfler - a great movie, too) Beaches (don't laugh - Bette has some great covers on this one) The Blues Brothers From The Earth To The Moon (a strange one, but it has some great "oldies"!) Pretty Woman (just for Lauren Wood's "Fallen") Tour Of Duty (another strange one, since it was a TV show, but the album includes artists like Diana Ross, Small Faces, Jimi Hendrix, Santana, Janis Joplin, The Byrds......) Carmen - one from my childhood, surprisingly (and my mother would be pleased about this one!) I guess I have a few more soundtrack albums than I thought. No Broadway-type shows, but then I've never seen one! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 10:21:11 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Six Feet Under - njc Snap, Mark. We saw the exact same episode last night. I too was taken by that view. I thought it very weird. standing on a porch in what looks a rural setting and having the city looming up to the side. never seen anything like it. We both really enjoy this program. It has only recently started here and this is the second series. I hope it continues a long while. Mark or Travis wrote: > Some of you have talked about 'Six Feet Under'. I've been watching the > re-runs and really enjoying this show. Last night they ran the episode > where Nate and his sister fly to Seattle to drive a 'client' who was afraid > of flying back to LA. They stay at Nate's friend Lisa's house, a huge place > with a large front porch and a gorgeous view of downtown Seattle. That is a > real house on Queen Anne Hill in Seattle not far from where I work. I have > walked by it many times. And the view they showed on 'Six Feet Under' is > for real (not like the view outside of Frasier's apartment - I don't know of > any apartment building in Seattle where you could get that view.) Anyway, > it was kind of cool to see that house on TV. I have often fantasized about > owning it. > > Mark E in Seattle (ok, Shoreline, let's not get technical here, ok?) - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80,Creation 6 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 10:21:53 +0100 From: colin Subject: GAP ad njc There si a new GAP ad running and it has Marianne Faithful in it along with another female singer. anyone know who she is? - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80,Creation 6 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:22:43 +0100 From: LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk Subject: RE: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums NJC Not mad for cast albums but soundtracks...mmmm One From the Heart - Soundtrack (Tom Waits and Chrystal Gayle) Cabaret - Soundtrack (Joel Grey, Liza Min...etc) Map of the World - Soundtrack (Pat Metheny) Blade Runner - Soundtrack - (Vangelis [something about this music makes me think of really rude sex.....so I dont play it real often]) Hable Con Ella (Talk to Her) - Soundtrack (Almodovar) Laurence Of Arabia - Soundtrack The English Patient - Soundtrack Bagdad Cafe - Soundtrack (for Jevetta Steele's 'Calling You') Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon - Soundtrack The Big Chill - Soundtrack les (london) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:34:11 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Subject: Re: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums, Bob, njc <> Unless the store already has their own copy of 'Pazfest' with Beth Patterson's version, it's a certainty that it was Annie that you heard. Her cover was a track on the CD-single release of "No More I Love You's". It's a good one to be sure! Will be included on the 'Case Of Joni', for those of you who think this CD will ever see the light of day. Bob NP: Big Yellow Taxi, "Woodstock" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Anything Goes (for my money Cole Porter's wittiest) 5. My Fair Lady (musicals aren't supposed to get this classy, are they?) 6. Fiddler on the Roof 7. Hair 8. Kismet 9. RODGERS & HAMMERSTEIN (here's where I start cheating): I'd need Oklahoma!, Carousel (the film version is better and more complete; the original has John Raitt. Give me both), South Pacific, and The King and I (1996 revival with Donna Murphy and Lou Diamond Philips) 10. STEPHEN SONDHEIM: Company, Follies (Original Cast AND Paper Mill revival), A Little Night Music; Sweeney Todd; Merrily We Roll Along; Sunday in the Park With George; Into the Woods. PLUS: The Collector's Sondheim, Putting it Together, and live recordings by Bernadette Peters, Barbara Cook, and Elaine Stritch. On my desert island, I'd also require a TV, VCR, DVD player, and videos of as many of the above as are available (and my favorite movies, of course). Also some books, lots of soap and toothpaste, a few bottles of Gin (accompanied by at least two of Kakki's hand-painted martini glasses), a few more of Scotch and a lifetime's supply of red wine. A down comforter would be nice, as would two (2) soft pillows. Also handy would be a microwave and a small fridge. Absolutely compulsory: a piano and a computer (with high-speed internet access). Something tells me I'm not cut out for desert island life.... hee hee love to all Roberto _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:31:33 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Soundtrack desert island, NJC Don't know which other 8 I would take, but for sure the 1st 2 will be Ry Cooder's "Paris, TX" and "Crossroads" (blues). Come on you fans of Pat Metheny's solo in S&L, let Ry's slide transport you to heaven on Paris, TX. If you don't know it yet, run to the store now. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:21:44 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Subject: Covers 33 - loosed upon the world! OK, so last month I took a break from releasing a CD in the ever burgeoning "covers/frisbee" series. Now it's time to get back onthe track, although I must admit it's a bit intimidating what with all the competition: Pazfest, Big Yellow Taxi, Steve Klink, the 8-CD Jonifest 2002 collection...but here goes - here's the lineup for "Joni Covers - Volume 33". A big thanks to our one and only Kerry (get out your cane) Nikkuta for her assistance in getting this music! 1. The University of Northern Colorado Vocal Jazz Ensemble - I Don't Know Where I Stand: Whew! As Linda Lovelace says, that's a mouthful! And it sounds good too...basically their take on the Singers Unlimited arrangement. See also #12 below. 2. Suzin Skyler - A Case Of You: Canadian Jazz singer Skyler turns in a fine performance of ACOY. 3. Mary Hopkin - Both Sides Now: The second Joni cover from a rare live recording, Mary's voice is well suited to Joni's material. 4. Chuck Mitchell - The Circle Game: Joni's ex sings the classic. Dontcha just know she loved getting THIS royalty check! 5. Ginger Berglund - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines: GREAT big-band arrangement, really swings. 6. The Loons - The Urge For Going: Another wonderful recording of one of Joni's earliest songs, by folk group The Loons. Jody Johnson gives it 2 thumbs way up! :~) 7. Skeeter Davis - Both Sides Now: Skeeter was of course most well-known for the hit "The End Of The World", her BSN is not outstanding but not bad. 8. The Joint Chiefs - All I Want: Now THIS is one I really love! Don't know much about these guys, except that they remind me a lot of Eddie From Ohio. Great harmonies and acoustic arrangements! 9. Rachel & Hugh Higgins - Big Yellow Taxi: Hugh would have done well to take the advice about not working with kids...but then again it's sort of cute as he sings this one with his "trusty sidekick" Rachel. 10. CC Robin - Free Man In Paris: I have no proof that the Grateful Dead ever did a Joni song in concert, but this one sounds like Jerry Garcia and there are Dead-like harmonies here as well. 11. Lincoln Mayorga - Both Sides Now: A very peppy and well-played version, and some interesting things going on with the arrangement. Definitely a nice change of pace. 12. Shivesen Jazz Choir - I Don't Know Where I Stand: See #1 13. John Townsend - The Circle Game: UK folksinger with a fairly monotone version of Circle Game...I like this one though, it's darker than I'm used to hearing. 14. Keller Williams - A Case Of You 15. Keller Williams - For Free: These are both WONDERFUL recordings - and not officially released, so we have yet another JMDL exclusive. Don't know much about Williams, but he does have a new CD out. 16. Dick Hyman - Both Sides Now: I promise not to make fun of his name...for those of you who are clamoring to hear BSN on the bagpipes, this is what it might sound like. Dick doesn't play the pipes, this is a far-out synth version that imitates the sound. Really different, and fun! 17. Steve LaManna - Michael From Mountains: A nice solo piano version of one of Joni's sweetest melodies. The guy's no Fred Simon, but he's all right. 18. Melanie Taylor - River: A fine & soulful version of the Christmas (?) classic. 19. Woody Mann & Suzanne Vogt - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines: Another winner, Woody plays a mean acoustic lead, great jazz licks and solos, and Suzanne provides a warm and accurate vocal. 20. Terry Baxter & Orchestra - Both Sides Now: I always cringe when I see that "& Orchestra" tagged on, but this one is pretty cool. Nice & upbeat, with some nice Vince Guaraldi keyboards. So there you have it! 20 tracks, 20 hits...as always, I'm happy to share copies with anyone interested, so if you are...lemme know. And too, I'll be giving away a copy to some lucky JMDL'er, so Murphy stay tuned - your chance to win is coming up! Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Lonesome Day" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 08:19:00 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: Joni an Actress? At 01:35 PM 9/30/02 -0400, you wrote: >This just in: My sources have confirmed that Joni Mitchell will indeed be taking on a new role. She will appear in a new production of The Wizard of Oz. Casting is as follows: > >Glenda, Good Witch of the North: Joni Mitchell >The Wicked Witch of the West, who has no actual name: Marilyn Manson >Dorothy: Bjork >The Tin Man: Don Henley >The Wizard of Oz: David Geffen >Toto: Benji the Fifth > >Casting is still not complete for the roles of the Scarecrow, the Cowardly Lion, and the Munchkins. > > I can just see --Bob/Ethel as the Cowardly Lion. Just imagine him saying: I do believe in spooks- I do, I do believe in spooks..." Love you Bob! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:22:40 -0500 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: Covers 33 - loosed upon the world!njc Bob, My mother sang with Skeeter Davis when it was the Davis Sisters. They were on the Midwestern Hay Ride, on WLW in Cincinnati. My mother told how the one sister died, but I don't remember. I'll have to ask her again. "The End of The World" was her big cross over hit, but in country "Last Date" with Floyd Crammer was big. Kasey 7. Skeeter Davis - Both Sides Now: Skeeter was of course most well-known for the hit "The End Of The World", her BSN is not outstanding but not bad. BobGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:29:52 -0500 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: Fw: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums njc Bob, I'm not laughing. I adore Bette. I love Beaches, and For the Boys. Kasey Beaches (don't laugh - Bette has some great covers on this one)Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 09:37:22 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums NJC Mike Pritchard wrote: > > > >>the only soundtrack album i own?? > the only one i'll ever need?? > > "jacques brel is alive and well and living in paris"<< > > I saw this film on british tv in the 70s, I guess, and loved it. This show must be seen live. The cabaret seating as originally done is so effective. I saw the original production with Eli Stone, and then the 10 year anniversary tour directed by her, as well as many other subsequent productions. It remains one of my favorite shows after all these years. Jerry np Eminem - White America ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 08:44:16 -0500 From: David Sadowski Subject: Early Live Recordings I have an extensive trade list for a number of artists I'm interested in but only have two recordings of early Joni (1-4-68 and 10-29-70), I would be interested in hearing some more of the early stuff, such as it is, that's out there. Can anyone point me in the right direction here, or possibly contact me off-list in order to work out a trade? Thanks. - -Dave PS- I looked at a database of show dates and I seem to recall a few shows that aren't on there... somehow, I thought she had done a solo show at the Auditorium Theatre here in Chicago around the time of Blue, which I always regretted not seeing. I also thought I did see her at the Ravinia Festival in Highland Park a couple of times... once around the time of For the Roses, then a few years later with the LA Express. The cover of Miles of Aisles looks exactly like the pavilion at Ravinia in the mid-70s, does anyone know if that indeed is the source? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 10:24:41 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: desert island soundtracks NJC >omg, i CAN'T believe no one has said Harold and Maude yet. here are my >favorites: I agree Harold and Maude has a fabulous soundtrack - strangely enough however, no official recording was ever released in the U.S. The one that was released, in Japan I think, didn't have all the songs. Seems like a pile of money got left on the table by someone. I know I would have bought it just to hear Ruth Gordon sing. Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:55:10 -0700 From: "Brenda" Subject: Re: GAP ad njc On 1 Oct 2002 at 10:21, colin wrote: > There si a new GAP ad running and it has Marianne Faithful in it along > with another female singer. anyone know who she is? > > -- Taryn Manning http://us.imdb.com/Name?Manning,%20Taryn B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:06:49 -0400 From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: Rolling Stone Readers Poll in Issue 907 Rolling Stone has listed the "100 greatest records of all time as chosen by you." I see Madonna on this list 4 times, but no Joni. Weezer is on it twice, but no Joni. The list includes albums from the 60's and 70's, but no Joni. She is mentioned - once. Under Number 9 - Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Page is quoted as saying, "Every musician wants to do something of lasting quality, and I guess we did it with 'Stairway'. I don't think there are too many people who are capable of it. Maybe one. Joni Mitchell." The fact that she is in some kind of cultural gulag, all but expunged from the collective memory saddens and angers me. Ruth Ruth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:03:21 -0400 From: "joseph tischner" Subject: Norah Jones (again) NJC Boy Do I FEEL STUPID!!!!!!!!!! I just went to Billboard's Top 100 Album chart. Norah's #8 with 30 weeks on the chart!!!!!!!!!! Never heard of her til 2 weeks ago. POPULAR MUSIC ON NEW YORK RADIO SUCKS!!!!!!!!! Has anyone heard her stuff on WFUV? I haven't. Sorry for displaying my inexcusable ignorance! _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:15:07 -0400 From: vince Subject: top 10 (11) desert island soundtracks njc vince wrote, making a grievous mistake: > Y Tu Mama Tambien > Trainspotting > Hair (play) > Jesus Christ Superstar (movie) > Looking for Mr. Goodbar > Camelot > Eight Mile (doesn't come out until November but what the hell) > Star Wars (the original 1977 movie) > Woodstock > Love, Janis I forgot Rocky Horror Picture Show .. so out goes Camelot, if ever I would leave you, it would be for Rocky... Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 12:15:48 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: RE: Norah Jones (again) NJC . > Sorry for displaying my inexcusable ignorance! No apologies are necessary. I've known about Norah Jones for a few months because someone played her for me at a coffeehouse and I was completely blown away by her. I'd rather find out about music that way. I haven't looked at a Billboard chart since I was working in a music store back in 1996. I'm sure there are many people who are just discovering her and there will surely be more. Its never too late to be turned onto good music. Victor, who never listened to Morrissey or the Smiths till '92 - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:41:20 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Travelogue I was just internet shopping for cds and see that Joni's "Travelogue" is being released November 19. I think that's been mentioned already. What surprises me is that it will cost $34.98. Is that the going rate for a 2-cd release? Seems unusually pricey to me. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 17:41:52 +0100 From: "Amelio Alamo" Subject: Re: Norah Jones Debra Shea:- >She's getting a lot of attention. I've seen her on tv and listened to >some of her cd at the record store and found it so bland I didn't buy >it. Sounded like jazz with no life to it to me. Very easy listening kind of jazz pop and hardly ground-breaking I agree. Norah says this herself in an interview. Certainly not bland though. The album takes a few listens but it's very smoothe. Steve T. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:41:51 -0700 From: "Brenda" Subject: Re: Norah Jones (again) NJC On 1 Oct 2002 at 12:03, joseph tischner wrote: > Boy Do I FEEL STUPID!!!!!!!!!! > I just went to Billboard's Top 100 Album chart. Norah's #8 with 30 > weeks on the chart!!!!!!!!!! Never heard of her til 2 weeks ago. > POPULAR MUSIC ON NEW YORK RADIO SUCKS!!!!!!!!! Has anyone heard her > stuff on WFUV? I haven't. Sorry for displaying my inexcusable > ignorance! > There are two WFUV shows that I know of, both of which are worth a listen. She was on Rita Houston's show in March of this year and there is a more extensive show with Vin Scelsa from September, 2001. Both are in the WFUV audio archives. I love Norah because she has so much potential. She's just 23, recorded a lot of the songs when she was 21 and 22 and really, she's only just begun. I've seen her a couple of times and while it's clear that she has a lot to learn, she also has the "it" factor that will separate her from others of her generation. Hopefully she and her advisors will resist the pull of the hype machine and allow the organic growth of her music and performance. I think it will be a journey worth following. B n.p.: Les Nubians - "La Guerre" - -------------------------------------------- "Radio has no future" - Lord Kelvin, 1897 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 17:50:08 +0100 From: "Amelio Alamo" Subject: Re: Norah Jones Debra Shea wrote:- >She's getting a lot of attention. I've seen her on tv and listened to >some of her cd at the record store and found it so bland I didn't buy >it. Sounded like jazz with no life to it to me. Very easy listening kind of jazz pop and hardly ground-breaking I agree. Norah herself has said something along the same lines in an interview. Hardly bland though! The album takes a few plays. It is very nice and smoothe. I'm always very suspicious of commercial music but I like this and it is highly credible. She plays piano and does some of the writing but really it is a whole effort from the band. Steve T. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 13:05:04 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Norah Jones Amelio Alamo wrote: > > Very easy listening kind of jazz pop and hardly ground-breaking I agree. > Norah says this herself in an interview. Certainly not bland though. The > album takes a few listens but it's very smoothe. And probably listening through earphones in a busy store isn't the most conducive environment for experiencing the subtleties, so I may eventually change my mind about her. For now she seems like another neatly marketed, young, attractive female singer who's not taking any chances. Yesterday I listened to Hissing of Summer Lawns and was again impressed with how fresh-sounding and bold it is, and I loved being able to clearly hear Joni's still-intriguing lyrics. Compared to that, Norah Jones or Alicia Keyes don't seem very interesting. To me. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:05:52 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: Norah Jones (again) NJC >POPULAR MUSIC ON NEW YORK RADIO SUCKS!!!!!!!!! Has anyone heard her stuff >on WFUV? I haven't. Sorry for displaying my inexcusable ignorance! I listen to WFUV at work all day on the 'net - popular music on Dallas radio REALLY, REALLY, REALLY SUCKS - and they've been playing her for several months now. Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:15:55 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Norah Jones > Yesterday I listened to Hissing of Summer Lawns and was again impressed > with how fresh-sounding and bold it is, and I loved being able to > clearly hear Joni's still-intriguing lyrics. Compared to that, Norah > Jones or Alicia Keyes don't seem very interesting. To me. For me so much of what I like is in the voice...yes, Norah's cd is very mellow and not particularly bold but its her voice that really grabs me...I find it very unique and intoxicating...something intangible...I think the album could have picked up a little more near the end, maybe substitue "The Nearness of You" for something a little more peppy...but I'll be interested to see where she goes from here...India Arie is someone else I can just listen to and just get lost in her voice. And I'm still crazy about Aimee Mann. Both Hissing and Hejira I listen to pretty frequently and am likewise astounded by them continually. And I'll listen to Claudia sing anytime anywhere anyplace... Victor NP: Aimee Mann "Invisible Ink" - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 13:25:09 -0400 From: "Erica Trudelle" Subject: Re: 10 Desert Island Soundtrack Albums njc Hell wrote: (in reference to her top10 soundtracks) >>Pretty Woman (just for Lauren Wood's "Fallen") I just wanted to tell you I LOVE this song, no one ever knows it when I sing it, it's definitely one of my favorite love songs! - -Erica _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 18:32:40 +0100 From: "Amelio Alamo" Subject: Re: Norah Jones >Yesterday I listened to Hissing of Summer Lawns and was again impressed >with how fresh-sounding and bold it is, and I loved being able to >clearly hear Joni's still-intriguing lyrics. Compared to that, Norah >Jones or Alicia Keyes don't seem very interesting. To me. > >Debra Shea Absaloutley! In my opinion I've never heard anything as good as 'The Hissing Of Summer Lawns' and I doubt I ever will! I think that is a record only Joni could have made. Norah Jones music is not in the same league but it is nice if you know what I mean. Alicia Keyes; I don't really think much of to be honest. It just seems like she is trying to be a female Stevie Wonder! My sister listens to her too which says it all really! Steve T. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 13:38:29 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Travelogue dsk wrote: > I was just internet shopping for cds and see that Joni's "Travelogue" is > being released November 19. I think that's been mentioned already. What > surprises me is that it will cost $34.98. Is that the going rate for a > 2-cd release? Seems unusually pricey to me. Surprise, surprise. Cynical Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 18:43:53 +0100 From: "Amelio Alamo" Subject: Re: Rolling Stone Readers Poll in Issue 907 >Rolling Stone has listed the "100 greatest records of all time as chosen by >you." I see Madonna on this list 4 times, but no Joni. Weezer is on it >twice, but no Joni. The list includes albums from the 60's and 70's, but >no Joni. She is mentioned - once. Under Number 9 - Led Zeppelin, Jimmy >Page is quoted as saying, "Every musician wants to do something of lasting >quality, and I guess we did it with 'Stairway'. I don't think there are >too many people who are capable of it. Maybe one. Joni Mitchell." The >fact that she is in some kind of cultural gulag, all but expunged from the >collective memory saddens and angers me. > >Ruth Yes this is really sad. I am not suprised though! I don't think she will ever be properly appreciated my the general public. Someone at work the other day said that Joni Mitchell isn't really credible! Of course this could not be further from the truth. I said that she may not be seen as fashionable or trendy but she is perfectly credible. Steve T. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 13:57:22 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Travelogue Jerry Notaro wrote: > > > ... it will cost $34.98. Is that the going rate for a > > 2-cd release? Seems unusually pricey to me. > > Surprise, surprise. > > Cynical Jerry Cynical toward the music business in general? Or cynical toward Joni and her marketing decisions after the hatbox ripoff? I'm leaning toward the second one myself. I keep telling myself there was an entire orchestra to pay... it still doesn't feel quite right, though. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 18:55:40 +0100 From: "Amelio Alamo" Subject: Goodbye... Hi all, Sadly I'll be leaving the list tomorrow because I am moving out from my Mums. I won't have a computer for a while and wont be able to check my emails all that often. There have been some great posts. It's always nice talking to Joni fans. Hope I haven't lurked too much or offended anybody! Thanks to everyone who have made me feel welcome. Bye, Steve T. "We should stay in touch Oh! Stay in touch In touch" _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:05:04 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Goodbye...njc Take care Steve. I have enjoyed your posts. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 14:00:16 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Travelogue dsk wrote: > Jerry Notaro wrote: > > > > > ... it will cost $34.98. Is that the going rate for a > > > 2-cd release? Seems unusually pricey to me. > > > > Surprise, surprise. > > > > Cynical Jerry > > Cynical toward the music business in general? > Or cynical toward Joni and her marketing decisions after the hatbox ripoff? Door number two. > > I'm leaning toward the second one myself. > > I keep telling myself there was an entire orchestra to pay... it still > doesn't feel quite right, though. I'm with you on this one. I'm not that excited about the Orchestrated Joni cd to begin with..... Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:04:29 +0200 From: Christoffer Gudi Sommer-Gleerup Subject: Re: Mini UK fest...and new cover band! > Just had the pleasure of almost a mini-fest. Christina from > Denmark has been in London over the weekend, and had time to > hook up with Les Ross and trundle up to Cambridge. > The pleasure was very much mine as well! It's hard not to feel priviliged spending time and singing with two JMDL'ers who are equally nuts about the music - and play and sing it so well (yes YOU, Ross!). > Me? I'm slightly pished, but on a miniature high having just > reminded myself how much talent there is sloshing around this > place. I got pretty high from it myself! :-) I fell asleep in the car on the way back though, as Les was playing some very relaxing music on the stereo... It seems like *I've* been sourrounded by talent and meeting luck everywhere ever since I returned from JoniFest. Lastly, I've met a bass-player who plays Jaco Pastorius (only nearly as well as you, Chris :-) and who wants to form a whole band with me mainly doing songs from the four albums Jaco's played on (or are there more?). He proposed doing it just with a percussionist to gard the acoustic sound (and because it's hard to make money on playing Joni here (mentally retarded people! Musically anyway...)). We don't know if it might sound too sparse, though. I'd like to hear what you guys think of the idea? The bass-player also talked to a guitarist about doing a more broad selection of female singers cover band still doing Joni along with Jonatha Brooke and Sarah McLachlan. Any suggestions from you listers are more than welcome. These guys are REALLY good musiciens having both played professionally for several years and are open to moving abroad. For those of you who know the musical environment in NYC and/or knows someone who would book us for gigs overthere, I'd be happy to hear from you. We'll have a demo done within shortly. The BEST of it all was almost that THE BASS-PLAYER WANTS TO ATTEND JONIFEST NEXT YEAR!! When he said that he'd like to do this I jumped at least two meters off the floor! And I didn't even ask him (nor begged) about it! This guy is surely sent from heaven (or maybe I just sounded a bit eager telling him about the fest..?). Lots of thoughts from Denmark (that's turning too damn cold!), Christina ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:05:53 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Goodbye... Hey- During a recent move, I, too, was computerless for about three months. But, I found a coffeehouse down the street from my new digs that had a computer. I'd spend a couple of bucks, sit there with my coffee and get caught up with the list about every 5 or 6 days. It became quite a fun little ritual for me. I hope you can find a similar setup for yourself, because we all enjoy your posts! Chat cafes are popping up all over! Good luck with your move! Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:19:09 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Travelogue I'm going to look at the $35 price tag this way: I'm gonna be listening to these cd's alot. If you look at the price we pay for entertainment these days, it's actually a bargain. $10 to see a two hour movie=$5 an hour. I shudder to think what a fortune I'd have blown through if I paid $5 every time I listened to Hejira, let alone the entire catalogue of Joni's work. I think I paid about $11 bucks for Hissing--and I've listened to it over and over for the last 15 years. IMHO, and I am certainly not wealthy, this will be money well spent. I can't wait for November! Ken np: Beck, End of the Day ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:20:42 +0100 From: "Amelio Alamo" Subject: Re: Goodbye... >Goodness, I hope my disagreeing opinions about Norah haven't turned you >away! The timing of this worries me... LOL. Debra of course not. It takes more than that to turn me away. I prefer people to voice there opinions than hold their silence anyway. >Please return as soon as you can. It's always good to not only talk with >Joni fans but learn about, discuss, argue about (sometimes) all sorts of >music. Amen. I will be back as soon as I can. >And, oh, no, I don't think you've offended anyone. Your enthusiasm is >refreshing. > >Good luck on the move and getting a new computer, and happy listening! > >Take care, > >Debra Shea Thanks Debra. I will miss te list. Steve T. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 11:23:49 -0700 From: "Brenda" Subject: Re: Norah Jones On 1 Oct 2002 at 13:05, dsk wrote: > Amelio Alamo wrote: > > > > Very easy listening kind of jazz pop and hardly ground-breaking I > > agree. Norah says this herself in an interview. Certainly not bland > > though. The album takes a few listens but it's very smoothe. > > And probably listening through earphones in a busy store isn't the > most conducive environment for experiencing the subtleties, so I may > eventually change my mind about her. For now she seems like another > neatly marketed, young, attractive female singer who's not taking any > chances. > > Yesterday I listened to Hissing of Summer Lawns and was again > impressed with how fresh-sounding and bold it is, and I loved being > able to clearly hear Joni's still-intriguing lyrics. Compared to that, > Norah Jones or Alicia Keyes don't seem very interesting. To me. > Hearing Norah live makes it evident to me how much the debut misses in terms of how she is using elements of country, blues and jazz together. Alicia Keyes isn't even in the same league....the only thing she has in common with Norah is that they've both put out records around the same time. Norah is a recording artist. Alicia is a recording act. I think to compare any young artist's debut to Hissing is a bit unfair. Hissing was Joni's seventh studio album. It's nearly impossible for a debut artist to reflect years of recording experience in their first record. Norah is younger than Joni was when STAS was recorded and has far less experience than Joni had up to that point. I say give her a few years and see where she goes. B n.p.: Jacky Terrasson - "Just A Blues" - -------------------------------------------- "Radio has no future" - Lord Kelvin, 1897 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:27:49 +0100 From: "Amelio Alamo" Subject: Re: Goodbye...NJC >Hey- >During a recent move, I, too, was computerless for about three months. >But, >I found a coffeehouse down the street from my new digs that had a computer. >I'd spend a couple of bucks, sit there with my coffee and get caught up >with >the list about every 5 or 6 days. It became quite a fun little ritual for >me. I hope you can find a similar setup for yourself, because we all enjoy >your posts! Chat cafes are popping up all over! >Good luck with your move! >Ken That would be cool but I live in a little town which doesn't have much! I remember when I was in Manhattan they had 24 hour places everywhere. A city which has everything. Thanks, Steve T. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:33:56 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: I Dream of Joni . . . again! Last night I had a dream that Joni appeared in for free . . . I was at a Jonifest in a Full Moon-type place, although it wasn't Full Moon. Joni was sitting at a big circular bar and when she saw me she turned to the man next to her and told him -- I guessed from lip reading and the gestures she was making -- that she wanted to meet me. So I walked over to her, she stood up . . . and she was about seven feet tall! Shortly after that, Joni was going to perform using some kind of technology I had never heard of. Then there was an announcement that the equipment had broken down and Joni would not be performing. Another act started to play, and I think the dream ended. It's so nice to have a dream about Joni, especially when that darned Muller isn't in it! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:33:56 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Subject: Re: Travelogue > Cynical toward the music business in general? > Or cynical toward Joni and her marketing decisions after the hatbox ripoff? Door number two.>> I agree...despite our passion for her here, she is barely a blip on the radar screen in the big scheme of things. Look at the RS survey that Sybil mentions...Joni didn't score ONE record in the top 100 of all time! Most of the fans who dug C&S aren't even aware of her newer projects. She's not a major unit-shifter, so Reprise looks to maximize revenues on her any way they can. I won't mention the hatbox scam again, but I will say that Ani's last 2 releases have been 2-CD sets, and I paid $16.99 - $18.99 for each. I would say that any price over $25 for Travelogue is excessive. But they're not stupid - they know that the maximum sales will happen in the first month, that us rabid fans will scoop it up when we can for what we have to pay, as most of have the resources. I'm not speaking from any REAL business knowledge, and I admit it. It just seems to be the approach that marketing establishes for her product. Bob, who will buy it the day it comes out for whatever the price is... NP: Prince, "Joint 2 Joint" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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It seems like complete self-indulgence on Joni's part, which maybe she's earned, and if she enjoys that "orchestra swelling behind her" then it's great she's able to go for it. But $35? I don't think so. I do look forward to seeing the documentary about recording the cd and perhaps will get into the whole idea a little more then. Debra Shea, who's feeling like a crabby old-fogey today ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:36:39 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Subject: Re: Goodbye...NJC <> Steve, surely you're close to a public library that would have the access you need. Or make a little drive, hey, we're worth it! ;~) Would love to see you stay plugged in. Bob NP: Prince, "The Holy River" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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