From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #393 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, September 27 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 393 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: September 26 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Jaco Pastorious' last days (very little Joni content) [Les Irvin ] Re: The Cover of My Dreams [LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk] Re: The Cover of My Dreams [LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk] Re: The Cover of My Dreams [LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk] baby at 52 mystery solved!!! ["Marian Russell " ] re: Catman & Gerald Mc [Gerald McNamara ] Keith Richards from today's New York Times [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Keith Richards from today's New York Times [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: The Cover of My Dreams [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Re: The Cover of My Dreams [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Re: The Cover of My Dreams [Jerry Notaro ] Re: The Cover of My Dreams [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Today's Library Links: September 26 [Jerry Notaro ] NJC Re: The Cover of My Dreams [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Re: The Cover of My Dreams [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Paz Update NJC [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Re: dream joni cover [Susan McNamara ] re: The Cover of My Dreams (NJC) ["c Karma" ] Every one of your signatures is needed (NJC) ["Lori in MD" ] Fwd: The Cover of My Dreams [Engwall57@aol.com] Re: Jaco Pastorious' last days (very little Joni content) [Engwall57@aol.] shadows & light book ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Paz Update NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] my friend is touring europe njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: The Cover of My Dreams ["Lavieri, Vince [185776]" ] It floats! (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: Paz Update NJC ["kakki" ] Re: The Cover of My Dreams [Christoffer Gudi Sommer-Gleerup ] anne njc [Alison E ] njc Daschle's comments [vince ] Re: Good enough for Joninjc [colin ] Re: Good enough for Joni njc [AzeemAK@aol.com] Just When You Thought Libra Birthdays Were Over! ["Scott and Jody" ] RE: Keith Richards from today's New York Times ["Heather" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #392 [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: njc Daschle's comments ["gene mock" ] Re: Just When You Thought Libra Birthdays Were Over! [Murphycopy@aol.com] Fw: victor!!!! njc ["Mark or Travis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 03:10:37 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today's Library Links: September 26 On September 26 the following items were published: 1997: "Pass the Salt, Please" - JMDL (Interview, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/970626li.cfm 1998: "Mitchell Brings Perspective and Wit to 'Taming the Tiger'" - Los Angeles Times (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980926lat.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 01:19:54 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Jaco Pastorious' last days (very little Joni content) Joniphiles - My never-ending search for Joni-related articles found me surfing the Miami Herald website tonight. I happened across a number of fascinating and detailed articles about Jaco's last days. Truly riveting reading for those interested... Sept 16, 1987 7 Jazz Star Comatose After Fight At Bar http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/870916mh.cfm Sept 19 7 Club Manager is Charged in Beating of Jazz Musician http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/870919mh.cfm Sept 20 7 Dark Days For A Jazz Genius http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/870920mh.cfm Sept 23 7 Obituary - Jaco Pastorious, Noted Jazz Guitarist http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/870923mhx.cfm Sept 23 7 Death Silences One Of Music's True Originals http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/870923mh.cfm Dec 3 7 Charge Filed in Musician's Death http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/871203mh.cfm Nov 8, 1988 7 Man Admits Guilt in Beating Death Plea Consoles Jazz Great's Kin http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/881108mh.cfm Dec 6, 1988 7 Famed Jazz Musician's Killer Sentenced to 21 Months in Jail http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/881206mh.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:47:45 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Re: The Cover of My Dreams what i would do to hear Tracey Thorn of Everything But The Girl - Edith and the Kingpin John Pizzarelli - For the Roses Susanne Abbuehl - Black Crow David Frishberg - Harry's House/Centerpiece Julia Fordham - Little Green and now for some adventurous and unusual choices: Renee Fleming - Goodbye Porkpie Hat BB King - Blue Motel Room Mary Margaret O'Hara - Morning Morgantown Josh Groban - A Case of You Glenn Close - The Arrangement Aaron Neville - Woodstock Diamanda Galas - Dry Cleaner from Des Moines Mandy Patinkin - All I Want Sandra Bernhardt - Ray's Dad's Cadillac Tracy Chapman - Both Sides Now joseph np: Bobby Short "Take Love Easy" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:11:03 +0100 From: LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk Subject: Re: The Cover of My Dreams ..in a tom waits state of mind this morning..... Tom Waits - Slouching towards Bethlehem (Gothique Styleee) Tom Waits - Love ...and listening to Trio 1 and 2 in the car this morning on the way to work... Parton, Ronstadt and Harris - Stay in Touch les (london) npimh - the ballad of the sad young men - RLJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:13:13 +0100 From: LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk Subject: Re: The Cover of My Dreams .....mmmmm, rickie leeeee Harlem in Havana - Rickie Lee Jones les(lond'n - ting) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:17:16 +0100 From: LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk Subject: Re: The Cover of My Dreams mmmmm pat metheny..mmmm.... Two Grey Rooms - Pat Metheny les (lond'n 'n simla) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 04:18:45 -0400 From: "Marian Russell " Subject: baby at 52 mystery solved!!! http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/news/journal/archives/jour_v16n3_0018.html The singer in the artile is a country music singer named Jonie Mosby Mitchell. Here's a little bit from the above URL: + + + + + + + On the other side of this issue, people who are 45 to 50 years old might make better parents than people in their 30s who are still struggling with careers and finances, says Dr. Zimmermann. "They're between parents and grandparents." One woman who has worked through these issues is Jonie Mosby Mitchell, a country music singer and mother of 4-year-old Morgan Bradford, who was conceived by AR when Ms. Mosby Mitchell was 52 years old. At the time, Ms. Mosby Mitchell was the oldest woman on which AR had been used successfully. Ms. Mosby Mitchell, who was Dr. Sauer's patient, has four children from her first marriage and an adopted daughter from her current marriage. She and her husband decided to try AR instead of adopting again because AR gave them more control than the adoption process offered, she says. Ms. Mosby Mitchell describes pregnancy and birth at age 52 as "fun," though she wouldn't recommend it for most people. "When you're determined, nothing hurts." As for concerns that she might die while Morgan is still young, Ms. Mosby Mitchell is not particularly worried. Morgan's extended family of older brothers and sisters would be available to take care of him if anything happened to her, she says. Plus, old age runs in Ms. Mosby Mitchell's family: Her mother is 91. "Age doesn't make a difference to me," she says. "The alternative would be for [Morgan] not to exist." + + + + + + + Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 9:19:17 UTC From: Gerald McNamara Subject: re: Catman & Gerald Mc Vanessa, it's good to hear from you. I'm still here, living the weird life of a lurker, ... you know, reading about other people's lives every day. I'm a bit of a wombat like John up in the Blue Mts ! But he comes out of his burrow to email much more often than I do. ....Hello John ! Joni Content: Did you really take the twins to The Last Waltz when they were only a couple of weeks old ??? Wow, that really IS dedication to the cause. Hope they didn't cry during Joni. Now, for a real challenge, try taking 'em to "The Show" ! Hey Vanessa, were you planning on going to see Brian Wilson in Melbourne ? According to today's newspapers, his tour is in jeopardy as the promoter was arrested on fraud charges yesterday. A former bank employee, he allegedly opened many dodgy accounts, embezzled several million bucks, and set himself up as a rock music entrepreneur. So it looks like Brian Wilson mightn't make it down under. I've got front row seats, too !!! Hope I haven't done me dough. I'm picking up bad vibrations. -Gerald >It's been a very long time since I accidentally spammed the List... I do >apologise to Catman and Gerald McNamara - you contacted me a long while ago >and I'm only just replying. > >Our family has grown from two girls to two girls and two boys. On August 6th, >Aidan Vincent and Curtis Devin joined us and though falling pregnant again and >discovering they are twins was a shock, it's been the most wonderful surprise >in the past couple of years! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:03:44 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Keith Richards from today's New York Times Keith Richards on songwriting and performing, from today's NYT online: << QUOTE OF THE DAY ========================= "This is not something you retire from. It's your life. Writing songs and playing is like breathing -- you don't stop." - -KEITH RICHARDS >> I hope Joni sees this! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:29:43 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Keith Richards from today's New York Times In a message dated 9/26/02 7:04:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Murphycopy@aol.com writes: > "This is not something you retire from. It's your life. > Writing songs and playing is like breathing -- you don't > stop." > -KEITH RICHARDS >> > > I hope Joni sees this! > Joni is quoted as having said the same thing about smoking. I'm not kidding! ~rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:48:03 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Subject: Re: The Cover of My Dreams <<4.Chrissie Hynde - Don Juan's Reckless Daughter 5. Bjork - The Jungle Line>> And these would be great as well, Ken...I'm not a fan of Bjork but her voice would definitely complement JL! Bob NP: Peter Behrens, "Dep Do Do Dep" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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LOL I thought of three more I'd like: Mamas and the Papas "Night in the City" Stevie Wonder "Circle Game" Led Zepplin "This Flight Tonight" Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:59:50 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: September 26 ljirvin@adelphia.net wrote: > On September 26 the following items were published: > > 1997: "Pass the Salt, Please" - JMDL > (Interview, with photographs) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/970626li.cfm Les is much to modest to say, but this one is REQUIRED reading by all JMDLer's. Do it now. Jerry np: Bette Midler - Beast of Burden ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:20:36 +0000 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re: emmylou harris njc >>Put another vote down for Elite Hotel. Some cracking up-tempo tunes, lovely ballads, one of THE best Beatles covers (Here, There and Everywhere), and Emmylou singing like an angel.<< Writing from memory and Barcelona (pardon my zeugma) I seem to recall that HTAE was on Emmylou's Pieces of the Sky album. I could be wrong, but until I bought her two latest CDs (Red Dirt Girl and Wrecking Ball) I only had Pieces of the Sky, but I definitely had HTAE. My copy is back in Wales so I can't clarify this. Love all 3 of these albums,mikeNP bebel gilberto - tanto tempo - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:21:10 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Subject: NJC Re: The Cover of My Dreams <<5) Christina Friis-Nielson singing anything she wants>> Ummmm, yeah I'll go for that too. <<8) Bob Muller doing Paprika Plains and Roberto on 2 different pianos>> Whoa, dude - I may make some ambitious choices, but I know my limitations. However, only time will tell. I WILL say that if it's possible, Roberto can pull it off. We're already planning setlist for 2003! :~) And thanks for the consideration...when I heard you do Hejira at Ashara's in '99, it was inspiring and it was then I realized that performing some of these songs was really a possibility. (That was after I got through bawling like a toddler!) 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I'd give the Stingmeister either: Moon At The Window (he digs those "Moon" songs and this is also his kind of pop/jazz melodic line) and/or Number One (same thing, plus it has that pulsating rhythm that he handles so well) Bob NP: The Dukes of Stratosphear, "25 O'Clock" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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My wise younger brother sent me a compilation of Todd about two months ago that I have not been able to stop listening to. I was a Todd freak in the early 70s when I used to trip and listen to A Wizard A True Star (Never Never Land-Talking about Great Covers), but now that I'm old (ahem) I thought I had grown out of this phase. But this compilation reminded me that he is, in essence, Brian Wilson's Frankenstein Monster, and also some kind of weird synthesized preacher. I defy you to listen to Just One Victory without being transported. (don't egg me on, please.) Anyway, I'm starting to play my own version of A Dream Lives On Forever for some future time when I complete my own recordings of Dreamy Covers. Also, if Joni was going to do a Todd cover I would like her to try Can We Still Be Friends? Listen to the interlude on Todd's recording and think of The Reoccurring Dream. His vocal overlays are phenomenal. seeya, suemc - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:24:40 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: The Cover of My Dreams (NJC) Only one, and highly unlikely: Bob Dylan -- "Both Sides Now" CC "And you were in the parking lot, subterranean by your own design. The virtue of your style inscribed on your contempt for mine." -- JM _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:37:07 -0700 From: "Lori in MD" Subject: Every one of your signatures is needed (NJC) Thanks for reading the following. - Lori of your time. As many of you may have heard, a Nigerian woman was recently sentenced to death - for having a child out of wedlock. Amina Lawal has been sentenced to death by stoning - she is to be buried up to her neck in the ground, after which her punishers will surround her and throw rocks at her head until her skull is crushed and she dies a painful and horrible death. I'm sure you all feel equal shock and disgust at this sentence, and I want you to know that she has only thirty days to appeal her trial. Please go to the Amnesty International site, http://www.mertonai.org/amina/ and sign the letter addressed to the President of Nigeria. It literally takes only a minute, and could help to save her life, as well as help put an end to this kind of cruel and disgraceful judgment in a country that calls itself a democracy. Please copy and forward this letter to others in your address book as well. Please help her! Even if you're hesitant to sign the Amnesty petition yourself, please pass this e-mail on, so that other people have the opportunity to decide for themselves. Brenda Gardner PICCADILLY PRESS London England ~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:41:58 +0100 From: "William" Subject: Good enough for Joni Last night I was given the chance to see Linda Lewis in concert this coming Sunday. Linda Lewis? Couldn't remember anything about her music. Mmm, give it a miss I thought. Anyway, I looked up her website out of curiosity and there was a little snippet that went; <<<.... the single "I'm In Love Again" brought Linda some new fans such as Joni Mitchell, Eric Clapton, Stevie Wonder (who contacted Linda personally to proclaim his admiration for her voice).>>> Who knows maybe worth a try. If she's good enough for Joni .... Any thoughts welcome. WtS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:51:52 -0400 From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: Fwd: The Cover of My Dreams Return-Path: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:46:53 -0400 From: Engwall57 To: humbletiger@hotmail.com Subject: Re: The Cover of My Dreams Message-ID: <50AC0262.6EF6ECDB.023DCF96@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In a message dated Wed, 25 Sep 2002 2:15:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, humbletiger@hotmail.com writes: > > > If you could have any artist cover any Joni song: > > What song would you want covered and who would you want to cover it? > I think Magdalene Laundries would be right up Sinead O'Connor's alley. Perhaps at the end she could tear up a picture of a nun, for effect. Prince doing Yvette in English would be interesting. Ruth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:55:26 -0400 From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious' last days (very little Joni content) 21 months jail time - incredible. I am sure people somewhere have served longer sentences for smoking a doobie on the street. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:54:41 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: shadows & light book anyone know how i can get a copy of this book? both online sources say it is unavailable.. i thought i'd read it before my november tribute (last year the audience loved the bio stuff i talked about between sets) to get some new info... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:14:31 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Paz Update NJC In a message dated 9/26/2002 10:10:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@fluor.com writes: > Talked to Michael this AM...he & his crew are doing fine Thanks for the update Bob. Michael, I hope your family and house is safe while storm Isadore hits New Orleans. If you do have any damage, I hope it's just the spanish moss being blown away from the trees behind your house. THEN, you can have another N.O. Jonifest, and Kakki won't get bitten by chiggers :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:40:11 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: my friend is touring europe njc & will be in holland, germany, belgium, uk....(she sang a few joni tunes at my joni tribute last year)...i thought some of you might be interested...she is quite an eclectic songwriter, accomplished piano player, is quite a character & has a stunningly beautiful voice: www.jenniferterran.com here is the schedule she sent me- October 25: Prinsentheater, Groningen, Holland October 26: Kuesten "home concert", Germany (Tickets: Jarmusic 05841 - 70244 or jarmusic@t-online.de) October 27: Kuesten "home concert", Germany (Tickets: Jarmusic 05841 - 70244 or jarmusic@t-online.de) October 28: Radio EINS, Berlin, Germany October 30: Ms. Hoppetotte, Berlin, Germany November 2: 013, Tilburg, Holland (opening for Michele Shocked) November 4: Nekkersdal, Brussels, Belgium November 6: Burgerweeshuis, Deventer, Holland November 8: 2 Meter Sessies (all acoustic/ live on the radio) Holland November 8: Wally's Place, Roosendaal, Holland November 9 (Sat.): "Home Concert"- Herfelingen, Belgium (w/ Mundane/ For tickets: +32(0)476/28.80.27) November 11: Maloe Melo, Amsterdam, Holland November 16: Q-Bus, Leiden, Holland November 17: Plein 79, Den Bosch, Holland November 19: Atlantis, Alkmaar, Holland November 20: Gaz Station, Panningen, Holland November 22: Witte Paarden, Witte Paarden, Holland November 23 (Sat.) BBC "live" on the radio, London, UK November 26: The Adelphi, Hull, UK November 28: Borderline club, London, UK (Opening for: Chip Taylor and Carrie Rodriguez) ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:02:12 -0400 From: "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" Subject: Re: The Cover of My Dreams I wrote: <<>> David Sapp reminded me that Coltraine did that, not Miles... so this a correction and thank you David! Vince, too wrong too often to count ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:13:22 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Looking for volunteer researchers Joniphiles - I'm looking for people who are willing and able to walk into the main public libraries of the following cities (or libraries that have archives for these city's newspapers) to do some research on Joni's early career: Boston Calgary Charleston, SC Coconut Grove, FL (Miami) Coral Gables, FL (Miami) Detroit Flint, MI Fayetteville, NC Hartford, CT London Philadelphia Port Huron, MI Saskatoon Syracuse, NY Toronto Washington DC Williamstown, MA Worchester, MA Please email me off list if able and interested. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:33:34 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: It floats! (NJC) The lights just came back on after about 16 hours with no electricity. The flood waters were lapping at our door, but started to recede before we could get any damage inside. The family is all good and we are in the process of cleaning up etc. It's just fecking incredible how things can change from one minute to the next. I have been thru many storms, but this one was really scary. Being in the dark with the howling wind, pelting rain, and rising flood waters is really bad. I was up most of the night not able to sleep for fear of tornadoes and flash flooding. After the worst past around 4:30am I was dozing and suddenly the phone rang and it was the neighbours telling me that the water was coming up fast. I looked out and sure enough it was really rising fast. I woke everybody up and we started picking up all the stuff on my studio floor like VG-8's, recorders, guitars, computer cpu, 3 heavy Vox amps, power amps, wires for days. ARGH! I hate that. Anyways after I got most of the stuff up the sun was up and we took a break. This is when I snapped some pics (which I can email if you are interested). My friend Lt. Col. Cronnis called from down the street and urged me to call EMC to find out what was happening and why the pumps were not working and complain that we were about to go under. It's funny about 15 minutes later the water started to recede. I called him back just to gloat that I had real pull with the local govt and it took an old hippie to get them into action. Mikey and I tool a walk in the knee deep water about one mile up to the entrance to our sub division. There were a lot of people hanging out watching a crew build up the levee on the lake side of our neighbourhood. When we got TO the levee we could see the other side and that airline highway (those of you came to PazFest remember this highway that leads to the airport and the Interstate) was completely under about 4 feet of water. Some people told us that its that way for miles. Jack is in an uptown neighbourhood and was high and dry. He called as did many of you throughout the night and I appreciate all the concern and emails and stuff that lets me know that my extended family is right there. That's a great feeling. Love to you all and hope everyone else is fairing well. Paz P.S. BTW. All the pre orders of PazFest were meant to go out yesterday in the post, but a trip to town turned out that the Post Office was closed. I did set up the PazFest display in Tower Records yesterday (which is SO COOL! and they gave me front and center placement right by the main check out counter) and left them their product. I promise they will all go out to you that have sent your checks in as soon as they reopen the city. XoXo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:02:44 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Paz Update NJC Jimmy wrote: > If you do have any damage, I hope it's just the spanish moss being blown away > from the trees behind your house. THEN, you can have another N.O. Jonifest, > and Kakki won't get bitten by chiggers :~) Jimmy - that particular thought actually DID cross my mind at one point yesterday as I was checking updates on the storm at work - teehee. Michael - I'm so glad you are alright and it's good to hear you have (almost literally) resurfaced and that your family and Jack made it through. Geez, what a night you must have had! Too bad we couldn't siphon off some of the water to over here - the worst fire I've ever seen has been roaring through the local mountains since Sunday. We have been smoke-choked for days and it looked like nuclear winter outside my window this morning. It's so bad that even having a cig is making me nauseated! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:50:17 +0200 From: Christoffer Gudi Sommer-Gleerup Subject: Re: The Cover of My Dreams > If you could have any artist cover any Joni song: > > What song would you want covered and who would you want to cover it? > I'd like to here more songs covered by Sarah McLachlan as her rendition of "Blue" is SO beautiful! I think she'd be amazing on "For the Roses" and "Down to You" for starters. Other than that, I look forward to hearing YOU guys doing more Joni songs at JoniFest 2003! :-) Christina (Denmark), standing in Heathrow airport in an internet booth feeling at home reading your e-mails... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:21:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: birthdays, pregnancy, etc. njc a day late and a dollar short, and this is what i get for doing the digest thing, because now i don't read them.... HAPPY FUCKING BIRTHDAY! to bob muller, marian, heather, mucky (who the hell is mucky, anyway? did you adopt another persona murphyethel?) steve p., and anyone else i missed... its not for lack of love, its for lack of keeping up on the digest. and emily....i'm SOOOOO HAPPY for you! god, that's exciting! everyone i know seems to be pregnant lately, i'm so behind! i just barely found a guy i spend more than ten minutes with! anyway, much love to you and courtney, you'll be fine fantastic parents indeed. good luck! alison e. in slc New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:44:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: anne njc glad to see you're up and at it again, anne. good to have you back, and please take it easy on yourself! love, alison e. in slc New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:50:50 -0400 From: vince Subject: njc Daschle's comments From the cnn.com site I got the transcript of what Daschle said on the Senate floor. As everyone knows, I am a Democrat. I am a peace activist. I am no fan of G W Bush. And I have seen all kinds of political trash from the LBJ days on. But I am absolutely outraged by what Bush and the the Republicans are doing with September 11th and Iraq. Even more disgusting is that Bush's out of line comments came in response to the issue of his wanting to eliminate collective bargaining and civil service from the employees of the proposed Homeland Security cabinet department. We are "not interested in the security of the American people" because we support collective bargaining? Because we support civil service? There is no way to spin this one. When Bush's political advisor speaks of marketing the war against Iraq as a "new product" then there is a shocking lack of morality in the White House. There could be 1,000 adults crawling on the knees in the White House and it would not be anywhere near as immoral as marketing war as a product. There is no decency left - if there ever was. Vince DASCHLE: Mr. President, I wanted to take a few minutes of leader time this morning, before we get into the debate on the amendment offered by the senator from Texas, to talk about a concern that I have wanted to avoid talking about for weeks. I am very saddened by the fact that we have debated homeland security now for three weeks. I have noted on several occasions that there is no reason, on a bipartisan basis, this body cannot work together to overcome our differences and to pass a meaningful and substantive bill dealing with homeland security. Some have suggested that the delay has been politically motivated, and I have said: I am not willing to believe that. In fact, yesterday I said: We intend to give the president the benefit of the doubt. Over the course of the last several weeks, as we have debated national security, the issue of war in Iraq has become more and more prominent. And again, as I go back to my experience in 1991 and 1992, during a similar period -- the fall and winter prior to and after an election -- I expressed the concern that our politics in this climate could easily create a politicized environment and, in so doing, diminish, minimize, degrade the debate on an issue as grave as war. No one here needs to be reminded of the consequences of war. No one here should have to be admonished about politicizing the debate about war. But, Mr. President, increasingly, over the course of the last several weeks, reports have surfaced which have led me to believe that indeed there are those who would politicize this war. I was given a report about a recommendation made by Matthew Dowd, the pollster for the White House and the Republican National Committee. He told a victory dinner not long ago -- I quote -- "The No. 1 driver for our base motivationally is this war." Dowd said war could be beneficial to the GOP in the 2002 elections. And then I quote: "When an issue dominates the landscape like this one will dominate the landscape, I think through this election and probably for a long time to come, it puts Republicans on a very good footing." I thought: Well, perhaps that is a pollster. Perhaps pollsters are paid to say what is best regardless of what other considerations ought to be made. Pollsters are paid to tell you about the politics of issues. And were it left with pollsters, perhaps I would not be as concerned. But then I read that Andy Card was asked: Well, why did this issue come before Washington and the country now? Why are we debating it in September? Where were we last year? Where were we last spring? And Mr. Card's answer was: "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August." New products? War? And then I listen to reports of the vice president. The vice president comes to fund-raisers, as he did just recently in Kansas. The headline written in the paper the next day about the speech he gave to that fund-raiser was: Cheney talks about war: electing Taff would aid war effort. And then we find a diskette discovered in Lafayette Park, a computer diskette that was lost somewhere between a Republican strategy meeting in the White House and the White House. Advice was given by Karl Rove, and the quote on the disk was: "Focus on war." I guess, right from the beginning, I thought: Well, first it was pollsters, and then it was White House staff, and then it was the vice president. And all along I was asked: Are you concerned about whether or not this war is politicized? And my answer, on every occasion, was: Yes. And then the followup question is: Is the White House politicizing the war? And I said: Without question, I can't bring myself to believe that it is. I can't believe any president or any administration would politicize the war. But then I read in the paper this morning, now even the president -- the president is quoted in The Washington Post this morning as saying that the Democratic-controlled Senate is "not interested in the security of the American people." Not interested in the security of the American people? You tell Sen. Inouye he is not interested in the security of the American people. You tell those who fought in Vietnam and in World War II they are not interested in the security of the American people. That is outrageous, outrageous. The president ought to apologize to Sen. Inouye and every veteran who has fought in every war who is a Democrat in the Senate. He ought to apologize to the American people. That is wrong. We ought not politicize this war. We ought not politicize the rhetoric about war and life and death. I was in Normandy just last year. I have been in national cemeteries all over this country. And I have never seen anything but stars -- the Star of David and crosses on those markers. I have never seen "Republican" and "Democrat." This has to end, Mr. President. We have to get on with the business of our country. We have to rise to a higher level. Our Founding Fathers would be embarrassed by what they are seeing going on right now. We have to do better than this. Our standard of deportment ought to be better. Those who died gave their lives for better than what we are giving now. So, Mr. President, it is not too late to end this politicization. It is not too late to forget the pollsters, forget the campaign fund-raisers, forget making accusations about how interested in national security Democrats are; and let's get this job done right. Let's rise to the occasion. That is what the American people are expecting. And we ought to give them no less. I yield the floor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:48:26 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Good enough for Joninjc William wrote: > Last night I was given the chance to see Linda Lewis in concert > this coming Sunday. Linda Lewis? Couldn't remember anything > about her music. don't know if it is the same Linda Lewis but there was a black singer here in the UK back in the 70's called that. We were in the same hospital at the same time back in 77. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:48:44 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Good enough for Joni njc In a message dated 27/09/2002 00:38:26 GMT Daylight Time, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: << don't know if it is the same Linda Lewis but there was a black singer here in the UK back in the 70's called that. We were in the same hospital at the same time back in 77. >> It most probably is; she had two very different careers, firstly as a singer-songwriter: I've got one album of hers, Fathoms Deep, which I haven't listened to for ages, but which I remember being surprised and impressed by, as at that point I'd only known her in her later guise of a disco diva. She had a big hit with a version of the Shoop Shoop Song, I think. Azeem in London NP: Christine Collister - Into The Light - yes, it's the new album, which I'm listening to far too quietly on crappy little speakers, but it's late and I don't want to wake the neighbours. It still sounds gorgeous, of course. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:58:16 -0400 From: "Scott and Jody" Subject: Just When You Thought Libra Birthdays Were Over! He's our very own Traveling Minstrel. Not only is he an extremely talented musician, singer/songwriter, but he's an insightful, warm and compassionate human being as well. Join in on Wishing VICTOR JOHNSON a Very HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!! Happy B-Day Bro:~) Now playing in your honor, "Way to Blue", "Terrapin", "Box of Rain," Jack Straw,Cassidy, Bertha, Bird Song," Morrissey, Neil Young and in my head, " Judgement Of The Moon And Stars, Parsonage Lane and September Bride" HAHAHAHA! jody - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan McNamara" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:57 PM Subject: re: birthdays > Catherine said: > > >To: Jonilist > >Subject: Happys birthsdays > > > > > >I know I missed some of you - why are there so many > >birthdays at this time? Is it a joni thing? > > I always thought it was a New Year's Eve thing! :-) > > > > >Steve, Bob, Heather, Marian, John! > > > > Happy, Happy, Happy, Happy, Happy Birthday.....suemc > -- > > > "Heart and humor and humility > will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:31:51 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Just When You Thought Libra Birthdays Were Over! In a message dated 9/26/02 7:59:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, johnsonjs@earthlink.net writes: > Join in on Wishing VICTOR JOHNSON a Very HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!! > HAPPY FECKING BIRTHDAY VICTOR!!!!!!! LOVE, ROSALITA XXOO ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:23:13 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] Just When You Thought Libra Birthdays Were Over! woohooo happy bday mr v! all i can say is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! or H A H A if you want to hear victor's beautiful song that jody referred to go to jmdl.com & click the link Victor Johnson Parsonage Lane ahhhhh a h h h ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:33:09 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: emmylou harris njc > >>Put another vote down for Elite Hotel. Some cracking up-tempo tunes, > lovely > ballads, one of THE best Beatles covers (Here, There and Everywhere), and > Emmylou singing like an angel.<< Writing from memory and Barcelona > (pardon my zeugma) I seem to recall that HTAE was on Emmylou's Pieces of > the Sky album. I could be wrong, but until I bought her two latest CDs > (Red Dirt Girl and Wrecking Ball) I only had Pieces of the Sky, but I > definitely had HTAE. My copy is back in Wales so I can't clarify this. > Love all 3 of these albums,mikeNP bebel gilberto - tanto tempo > You must be thinking of 'For No One', Mike. That one is on 'Pieces of the Sky' and it is very nice as well. 'Here There and Everywhere' is on 'Elite Hotel'. Mark E in Seattle who likes the idea of RLJ doing 'Harlem in Havana' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:23:47 -0400 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: Keith Richards from today's New York Times I guess that's what is keeping good old Keith alive 'cause he sure looks like a corpse in some photos. Heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of RoseMJoy@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 7:30 AM To: Murphycopy@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Keith Richards from today's New York Times In a message dated 9/26/02 7:04:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Murphycopy@aol.com writes: > "This is not something you retire from. It's your life. > Writing songs and playing is like breathing -- you don't > stop." > -KEITH RICHARDS >> > > I hope Joni sees this! > Joni is quoted as having said the same thing about smoking. I'm not kidding! ~rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:29:48 -0400 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: Just When You Thought Libra Birthdays Were Over! Happy Birthday Victor!! Heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Scott and Jody Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 7:58 PM To: joni@smoe.org Cc: NortheastJonifest@yahoogroups.com Subject: Just When You Thought Libra Birthdays Were Over! He's our very own Traveling Minstrel. Not only is he an extremely talented musician, singer/songwriter, but he's an insightful, warm and compassionate human being as well. Join in on Wishing VICTOR JOHNSON a Very HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!! Happy B-Day Bro:~) Now playing in your honor, "Way to Blue", "Terrapin", "Box of Rain," Jack Straw,Cassidy, Bertha, Bird Song," Morrissey, Neil Young and in my head, " Judgement Of The Moon And Stars, Parsonage Lane and September Bride" HAHAHAHA! jody - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan McNamara" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:57 PM Subject: re: birthdays > Catherine said: > > >To: Jonilist > >Subject: Happys birthsdays > > > > > >I know I missed some of you - why are there so many > >birthdays at this time? Is it a joni thing? > > I always thought it was a New Year's Eve thing! :-) > > > > >Steve, Bob, Heather, Marian, John! > > > > Happy, Happy, Happy, Happy, Happy Birthday.....suemc > -- > > > "Heart and humor and humility > will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:50:33 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: victor!!!! njc hey HEY!!!!!!!! H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y VICTOR!!!!!!!! only guy on earth who can do neil young better than neil young can. missed you last jonifest, victor. have a great day! wallyK, for the BDF (still asleep) aol-ers can't read my messages to the list so someone send his/her greetings to the list for everybody to hear it's johnson's BD, p-l-e-a-s-e ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:17:25 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #392 In a message dated 9/26/02 12:06:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > > >I received the videotape of the 1993 NBC newscast today and immediately > >popped it in. It was a story on "Older Mothers". The narrator said "Singer > >Joni Mitchell gave birth to a son at 52 years of age," then there was a > >5-second clip of Joni holding her baby and saying "I'd do it again, too!" > > Maybe it was Judy Collins. ;>) > This is a rather odd discussion...but it wasn't Judy (if it was anyone). Judy had one child, a son, who died about 10 years ago. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:51:25 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: njc Daschle's comments hello vince, i have no party affiliation, but i couldn't agree with you more. who the hell put the crown on geoge w's head????? i think he's been watching too many john wayne movies. take care gene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:03:12 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Just When You Thought Libra Birthdays Were Over! Jody writes: << HAHAHAHA! >> Dearest Victor the Victrola! I hope your birthday was full of laughs. I never get tired of listening to you play, no matter where the sun is in the sky! All the best, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:55:58 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Fw: victor!!!! njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wally Kairuz" To: "Victor Johnson" ; Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: victor!!!! njc > hey > > HEY!!!!!!!! > > H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y > > > VICTOR!!!!!!!! > > > only guy on earth who can do neil young better than neil young can. > missed you last jonifest, victor. have a great day! > wallyK, for the BDF (still asleep) > > aol-ers can't read my messages to the list so someone send his/her greetings > to the list for everybody to hear it's johnson's BD, p-l-e-a-s-e ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #393 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)