From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #380 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, September 19 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 380 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: America njc ["kakki" ] Re: German internment in the US(NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: America njc ["gene mock" ] Re: This one really cracks me up! [Michael Paz ] Travelogue Question ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: America njc [Michael Paz ] americas njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: America njc ["kakki" ] Re: tits NJC ["Lori in MD" ] new to list ["kasey simpson" ] Re: Is there a world flag?(NJC) ["Lori in MD" ] Re: new to list ["Lori in MD" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:08:51 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: America njc Ah but Mr. Paz - one could look at it another way. We identify ourselves as Americans, not to have the exclusive right to it but to recognize the inclusivness and oneness among our western hemisphere neighbors. Otherwise, we could have called the whole country "New England," no? ;-) Kakki > Typical "gringo" logic. ;-) Gabriel Garcia Marquez has plenty to say on this > topic. He got bent out of shape with this topic claiming that the North > Americans were arrogant to call themselves Americans as IF they were the > only ones. We were taught in Latin America that America' was the whole > bleeding thing from North To South. Me, some of my peeps are from Central > America which makes us Central Americans or Latinos which my son wants to > know why that is cause we don't speak Latin we speak spanish, which fuels > the fire under my wifes ass who sez that we are Hispanic because we all > originated from Spain, but that leaves out the connection with all the > tribes in Central America yes my Mayan ancestors, but then maybe we are all > Africans cause that's where it all started isn't it??? The mother land. I > dunno I was never to good at Geography (even thought I always wanna be > somewhere else), but I am the king of run on sentences, cause I can. I tried > to find the article about it on the internet for you, but I couldn't find > it. I love his writing and I will keep looking for it for you, it's a good > read. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:28:16 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: German internment in the US(NJC) Kakki What a great story. I love stuff like this. Thanks for sharing it. Love Paz on 9/17/02 6:26 PM, kakki at kakkib@vzavenue.net wrote: > Hi Darice, > > I saw a show on this in the past year. As I recall there was also > "relocation" of some Italians, too (see Mussolini threat). > > My father was stationed at Ford Ord in Monterey during WWII. He used to > tell me about some German prisoners of war that were processed through there > one time. I thought it was amazing - how did they end up on the West Coast? > He and another soldier had to drive the prisoners over to Salinas to the > detention facility one afternoon. It was very hot out and he stopped the > truck at a roadside place to get some Cokes. He bought all the prisoners a > Coke, too, and he said they were stunned that he would do that for them and > also let them out to walk around. He chatted with them and in the > conversation somehow happened to mention that he and my mother did not have > a refrigerator. A month later he got a message that these prisoners had > found odds and ends at their camp and had actually engineered and > constructed a little refrigerator for him! He said it was a piece of art > and worked beautifully. A little story of how humanity can bridge a war. > > Kakki > >> There was a question about why German Americans were not subjected to the > same >> interment as Japanese Americans during WWII. >> I have heard a very little about German interment camps over the years, so > I >> did a Google search. >> Search was--+german +"interment camps" +america >> and I got a lot of information. >> It seems as if 31,280 Germans (over 120,000 Japanese) were "relocated" > during >> the war. >> The San Jose Mercury News article looked like a good overview. >> Darice ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:34:11 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: monica njc BoBs on 9/17/02 8:13 PM, Kate Bennett at kate@katebennett.com wrote: > catherine you made my day! you make me lol so much everyday...i am soooo > happy i could return the favor! i just love that word...so here's a new > thread...what's your favorite word for chonies? lol > > catherine >>Chonies??? LOL! That's one word I've never heard before!<< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:36:29 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: America njc Amerigo vespucci(sp?) landed somewhere in Florida and thought he was the first to discover the north American continent. America got it's name for it's collection of states. Whereas South America is really made up of individual countries and not states. South America refers to the southern continent south of the equator. Just think what South America could do if there could co-operate among themselves to behave like a collection of states. later gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "kakki" To: "Michael Paz" ; "dsk" ; "Lori in MD" Cc: "Joni Digest" Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:08 PM Subject: Re: America njc > Ah but Mr. Paz - one could look at it another way. We identify ourselves as > Americans, not to have the exclusive right to it but to recognize the > inclusivness and oneness among our western hemisphere neighbors. Otherwise, > we could have called the whole country "New England," no? ;-) > > Kakki > > > Typical "gringo" logic. ;-) Gabriel Garcia Marquez has plenty to say on > this > > topic. He got bent out of shape with this topic claiming that the North > > Americans were arrogant to call themselves Americans as IF they were the > > only ones. We were taught in Latin America that America' was the whole > > bleeding thing from North To South. Me, some of my peeps are from Central > > America which makes us Central Americans or Latinos which my son wants to > > know why that is cause we don't speak Latin we speak spanish, which fuels > > the fire under my wifes ass who sez that we are Hispanic because we all > > originated from Spain, but that leaves out the connection with all the > > tribes in Central America yes my Mayan ancestors, but then maybe we are > all > > Africans cause that's where it all started isn't it??? The mother land. I > > dunno I was never to good at Geography (even thought I always wanna be > > somewhere else), but I am the king of run on sentences, cause I can. I > tried > > to find the article about it on the internet for you, but I couldn't find > > it. I love his writing and I will keep looking for it for you, it's a good > > read. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:43:04 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: This one really cracks me up! Nuke him Bob! That really sucks. Did you report him to the ebay folks and the buyer?? Paz Thanks for the package I swear I will send yours out just as soon as I get one more cd in on Friday to add to your STACK! Love ya! on 9/18/02 5:46 AM, Bob.Muller@fluor.com at Bob.Muller@fluor.com wrote: > Here's a guy in the UK (former/current JMDL'er?) selling a CD that I made > for him! I guess it was bound to happen... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=907661596 > > Bob > > NP: Stevie Wonder, "Do I Do" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:45:51 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: tits NJC hey all- so, i was just reading the Onion today and they always have a historical Onion page up and this week there's this old article from when Playboy first started publication... and they kept using the word "tits:. it was very funny but what i was thinking was that when i think of the word "tits" i think it means "nipples" for some reason but i think it means the whole thing... what do you think? another word i've heard lately: ta-tas - -yael (no comment on mine puleeze - you can keep picking on kay ashley for that ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:00:07 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Travelogue Question well i like her choices but i would not have overlooked blue...maybe take out flat tires ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:55:45 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: America njc Personally I have always like "Gringos" it just has a certain ring to it. I love it, but of course that fart Vince let the cat out of the bag and told everyone that I am actually from Michigan (Detroit if you can imagine anywhere more ghastly than that), but then daddyO is from Honduras which makes ME a "Grindio" but I digress. Poor me one will ya dear I missed mine this evening... Love Paz P.S. UnitedStations has sort of a ring too. on 9/18/02 8:08 PM, kakki at kakkib@vzavenue.net wrote: > Ah but Mr. Paz - one could look at it another way. We identify ourselves as > Americans, not to have the exclusive right to it but to recognize the > inclusivness and oneness among our western hemisphere neighbors. Otherwise, > we could have called the whole country "New England," no? ;-) > > Kakki > >> Typical "gringo" logic. ;-) Gabriel Garcia Marquez has plenty to say on > this >> topic. He got bent out of shape with this topic claiming that the North >> Americans were arrogant to call themselves Americans as IF they were the >> only ones. We were taught in Latin America that America' was the whole >> bleeding thing from North To South. Me, some of my peeps are from Central >> America which makes us Central Americans or Latinos which my son wants to >> know why that is cause we don't speak Latin we speak spanish, which fuels >> the fire under my wifes ass who sez that we are Hispanic because we all >> originated from Spain, but that leaves out the connection with all the >> tribes in Central America yes my Mayan ancestors, but then maybe we are > all >> Africans cause that's where it all started isn't it??? The mother land. I >> dunno I was never to good at Geography (even thought I always wanna be >> somewhere else), but I am the king of run on sentences, cause I can. I > tried >> to find the article about it on the internet for you, but I couldn't find >> it. I love his writing and I will keep looking for it for you, it's a good >> read. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:09:43 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: americas njc paz wrote "Gabriel Garcia Marquez has plenty to say on this topic. He got bent out of shape with this topic claiming that the North Americans were arrogant to call themselves Americans as IF they were the only ones." i've always thought it was quite arrogant, i wonder how did this come about? google search anyone? "We were taught in Latin America that America' was the whole bleeding thing from North To South." well it really is...i'd love to read what ggm has to say about this! ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:34:59 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: America njc Hi Gene, I've heard two different versions of the origin of the name America. Thought it was from Amerigo but then read something somewhere that said it had another source. Do you know? Vespucci was a sort of childhood hero to me because he was also said to be the "father of geography" and I was a major map nerd ;-) Kakki > Amerigo vespucci(sp?) landed somewhere in Florida and thought he was the > first to discover the north American continent. America got it's name for > it's collection of states. Whereas South America is really made up of > individual countries and not states. South America refers to the southern > continent south of the equator. Just think what South America could do if > there could co-operate among themselves to behave like a collection of > states. later gene ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:00:05 -0700 From: "Lori in MD" Subject: Re: tits NJC Yael wonders: > what i was thinking was that when i think of the > word "tits" i think it means "nipples" for some > reason but i think it means the whole thing... > what do you think? I'd say the whole thing. Or things. (Does anyone remember the odd little sayings on a certain Talking Heads album, one of which was: "In the future, women will have breasts all over their body." ??) > another word i've heard lately: > ta-tas My favorite: chi-chis The notion that there are restaurants and a line of foods with the name "Chi-Chi's" cracks up most of the Mexican-Americans I know in Texas. L, who was once known as "Melons" ~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:02:16 -0500 From: "kasey simpson" Subject: new to list Hi Everyone, I'm new to the list, and just wanted to say hi. A friend of mine is a huge Joni fan and I'm not really familiar with her music. I thought I would see what it's all about. Is there anyone here from Ohio? I live just outside of Dayton. I'm looking forward to reading the posts. KaceyGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:03:30 -0700 From: "Lori in MD" Subject: Re: Is there a world flag?(NJC) > Does anyone know if there is a world flag > or "planet earth" flag? Here's one: http://www.oneworldflag.org (And you know, there may be more!) Lori ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:07:19 -0700 From: "Lori in MD" Subject: Re: All-American martini (njc) > LOLOL - Lori you are quite psychic! Indeed, I > *have* taken stronger measures by switching to > a larger glass and placing a big jar of olives > on my delete key - LOL Ahhh ... Thought so! : ) Lori, who fondly remembers Kakki's martini as the best, and in fact, the ONLY one she ever enjoyed ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:12:05 -0700 From: "Lori in MD" Subject: Re: new to list Hi Kasey! Welcome! > I'm new to the list, and just wanted to say hi. > A friend of mine is a huge Joni fan and I'm not > really familiar with her music. I thought I would > see what it's all about. You obviously have good taste in friends, and you've come to the right place to see what Joni's music is all about! Do you have any of Joni's recordings? What has your friend played for you? > Is there anyone here from Ohio? I live just outside > of Dayton. I'm originally "from" North Canton, Ohio but now live in Maryland (near DC). I'm sure there are folks on the list from Ohio, though! > I'm looking forward to reading the posts. And I hope you'll post as well! Best to you, Lori ~ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #380 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)