From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #363 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, September 13 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 363 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Time to take out a contract on Q magazine ["Chris Marshall" ] Re: Time to take out a contract on Q magazine ["brian symes" ] Re: Letterman njc [dsk ] Re: Time to take out a contract on Q magazine [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Letterman njc [colin ] Re: Letterman njc ["Lori in MD" ] joni and bonnie ["Kate Bennett" ] joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: joni and bonnie and a teen age daugher ["brian symes" ] Re: Letterman njc [colin ] Re: NJC Bree's Beatles ? [Randy Remote ] Re: joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Bonnie Raitt njc [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Re: Bonnie Raitt njc [hell ] Re: Something about the BF - NJC [Michael Paz ] Don't forget it's Thurday, chatroom time is at 10:00PM est [RoseMJoy@aol.] Re: joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: the Bobs are killing me! NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Warren Zevon - njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "PazFest", the 2 CD set, JC at least for now [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: My 9/11 ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: "PazFest", the 2 CD set, JC at least for now [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob (NJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Warren Zevon - njc [Julius Raymond ] 9-11 another way njc [vince ] Re: Warren Zevon - njc ["gene mock" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #362 - Clinton NJC [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: 9-11 another way njc ["gene mock" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:54:05 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: Time to take out a contract on Q magazine > Q has a featurette called "Beware of the Dog - Bad albums by > great artists" > > This month the award goes to... Don Juan's Reckless Daughter! Grrr, gnash, snarl. Feckers. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:08:37 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Warren Zevon - njc Les wrote: >Zevon Diagnosed With Untreatable Cancer Damn. That's bad news. My thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family. I regret even more that I missed him by a few minutes in Edmonton last month. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:13:07 -0500 From: "brian symes" Subject: Re: Time to take out a contract on Q magazine A Music critic after hearing Bizet's Carmen reported that the opera had no memorable melodies, this critic in Q must be related. Brian - ----- Original Message ----- From: AzeemAK@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:34:15 EDT To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Time to take out a contract on Q magazine > Q has a featurette called "Beware of the Dog - Bad albums by great artists" > > This month the award goes to... Don Juan's Reckless Daughter! Quoth Ian > Cranna: > > "After her quantum jump from singer-songwriter to the complex artist of > Hissing... and Hejira, Mitchell's increasing infatuation with jazz textures > and rhythms led to a fusion bridge too far. With bonkers lyrics, shapeless > melodies and Jaco Pastorius on bass, she attempted a kind of Impressionism in > sound, while such songs as did exist were nothing she hadn't already done > better. Her next effort - a widely ignored Charlie Mingus collaboration - > cured her of jazz fever." > > Hmm. Aside from the "IMHO" factor, this does beg a few serious questions, > chiefly: > > 1. Is being a singer-songwriter therefore by definition not a good thing? > 2. Is having Jaco Pastorius on bass intrinsically a bad move? > 3. Had she already written a song just like as The Silky Veils of Ardor, only > better? > 4. Is it fair to describe an album that made the top 20 (possibly top ten, I > can't check right now) in the UK, as many of its not-exactly-going-platinum > predecessors had, as "widely ignored"? > > Answers on a postcard... > > Steady now, I'm only the messenger, put the guns away... > > Azeem in London > - -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:23:55 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Joni In Fiction I've been weeding our Media Center's Juvenile collection all summer. Today I came across the title Come In from the Cold by Marsha Qualey (1994). I opened to the title page to see if it had any Joni connection. It has two quotes to begin the book: We are stardust, we are golden, and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden. - Joni Mitchell, 1969 All we ever wanted was to come in from the cold. - Joni Mitchell, 1991 The story is a about the antiwar movement during the Vietnam War. Cool beans! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:45:14 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Letterman njc Kate Bennett wrote: > > Stayed up to watch Letterman last night. Clinton was the guest & reminded me > of why I voted for him as he has so often echoed my viewpoint on so many > things. As I was listening to President Clinton I was again greatly impressed with his ability to think broadly about complex problems. That's so different than the simplistic "good guys vs. bad guys" thinking of our current leaders, thinking that's jeopardizing our existence. As an American such arrogance and ignorance embarrasses and frightens me. Clinton talking about the next great psychological leap that people need to make in this now interdependent world -- to take pride in one's own group's heritage and at the same time appreciate the heritage of others rather than be threatened by it -- was fascinating. Although it sounds obvious in the retelling, Bush would never come up with something like that, so could never help bring such a leap about. > He spoke of many other things as well but I don't have the heart for a > political debate so I will leave it here. Me either. I'm tempted, but I'll leave it here too. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:01:33 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Time to take out a contract on Q magazine OK, I'll talk to Little Stevie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:32:46 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Letterman njc > That's so > different than the simplistic "good guys vs. bad guys" thinking of our > current leaders, thinking that's jeopardizing our existence. to some people being right and getting even is far more important than life. The most dangerous country in the world already has huge amounts of weapons of mass destruction-and has already used them more than once. The rest of us have sat back and let them and we are all going to pay the price for that. perhaps sooner than we think or hope. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:36:01 -0700 From: "Lori in MD" Subject: Re: Letterman njc > The most dangerous country in the world already > has huge amounts of weapons of mass destruction-and > has already used them more than once. What country would that be, Colin? ; ) ~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:51:42 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: joni and bonnie i'm a big bonnie fan & have seen her more times than anyone i think of...& all but one or maybe 2 of her shows have been benefits...she does many of them in this area for a variety of causes...usually environmental or political (for environmental politicians) ) & often these are with her good buddy jackson browne... ange askes >Any Bonnie fans out there?< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:08:06 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob "Linda Ronstadt was always kind to me," she says. "She makes friendships with women easily. And Bonnie Raitt is a sweetheart and a good ole girl." Then she lit another cigarette and spat, "That shifty Bob Muller is a smarmy guy, a real turd. Not to be trusted." Her radiant smile instantly returned as she added, "But Bob Murphy is truly terrific. I love that man. I am very impressed and honored by the work he has done for me with Joni in Fiction." Joni then giggled as she said, "I wonder if he's straight . . ." The above Joni quotation, well *most* of it anyway, is from a December, 1985 People Magazine article by Michael Small at: <> I did a search of the JMDL database for articles that mention Bonnie and there are 20. Go here to read them all: <> PS: I love Bonnie too! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:24:52 -0500 From: "brian symes" Subject: Re: joni and bonnie and a teen age daugher Recent posts about the younger generation reminds me of the CD's lost by my High School Daughter Road Teasted BR Greatest Hits Bob Dylan and the Double CD of BD in England (First Tour with Joan Baez). I told her "great taste Isabel but thats one pair of new shoes that will not be in your closet. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Bennett" Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:51:42 -0700 To: Subject: joni and bonnie > i'm a big bonnie fan & have seen her more times than anyone i think of...& > all but one or maybe 2 of her shows have been benefits...she does many of > them in this area for a variety of causes...usually environmental or > political (for environmental politicians) ) & often these are with her good > buddy jackson browne... > > ange askes >Any Bonnie fans out there?< > > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com > Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs > Over the Moon- > "bringing the melancholy world of twilight > to life almost like magic" All Music Guide > ******************************************** > - -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:31:21 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: "PazFest", the 2 CD set, JC at least for now "PazFest" was known to many of us as the JoniFest in New Orleans in 2000. The days before and after were kind of a multi-day JMDL event that culminated with New Orleans musicians doing a salute to Joni with many JMDLers thrown in for good measure as a fundraiser for the Ruth Paz Foundation. http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest/jfno2000.cfm This thing was a wonderful tribute concert. Stephen in Dallas, you were asking about a tribute disc? Forget Elvis Costello! Check this out! You like chick singers? Check out Susan Cowsill. You want to hear a monster play a Greek hybrid of guitar and mandolin called a bazouki? Check out Beth Patterson. You want a rip-roaring, wildly inventive, fun, and tasty spin on Joni? Check out the headliners, the Bryan Thomas Band. Those of us who were there will never, ever forget it. Those of us who weren't have a chance to catch a whiff of the excitement soon. "PazFest", a 2 CD set on Rykodisc. Catch it while you can. Lama ps, I need a ruling from the njc community. A 2 CD set of Joni Covers is Joni Content or not? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:45:08 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: Something about the BF - NJC If you two Bobs can play together _nicely_ you won't be allowed to play together at all! Now, I want you to each sit a different corner, quietly, for a half an hour an THINK about that. Lama, who thinks you're both bobbing for trouble. Bob #1 said, >>>But Bob, I HAVE to offer incentives to try & lure the interests away from the "Joni In Fiction" section. Must be all those pretty pictures...they're lured there like pigs to slop, which now that I think about is a pretty good analogy.>>> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:57:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: TI: a question now njc - --- Laurent Olszer wrote: > > Catherine quoted, in response to Mack: > > > > "600,000 doctors [that's a lot of docs!)] are > putting > > on rubber gloves . > > > Perhaps 600,000 is the dollar amount of their > malpractice insurance! I > heard of gynecologysts who quit making deliveries > because they can't afford > insurance anymore. That's certainly true here in Canada. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:39:49 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Letterman njc Lori in MD wrote: > > The most dangerous country in the world already > > has huge amounts of weapons of mass destruction-and > > has already used them more than once. > > What country would that be, Colin? ; ) the name of it slips my mind right now...... > > > ~ - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80,Creation 6 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:33:59 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: NJC Bree's Beatles ? Lots of them: off the top of my head Paperback Writer She Loves You Eleanor Rigby Strawberry Fields Bungalow Bill Love Me Do Tell Me Why Baby's In Black Cry Baby Cry The Word Michelle I'm Looking Through You ...tired...can't...type any more........ugghh RR > > Which Beatles song starts > out with the chorus? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:37:15 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob >Joni then giggled as she said, "I wonder if he's straight . . ." I did not see either one of your names in that article, BUT THIS: An obsessed fan that camped outside her L.A. house for five years. Joni had to write the parents....or have the parents intervene for her. Then after five years he just quit showing up? NO longer obsessed? WHERE IS HE? I love the pictures from the article...especially the first one...her sitting amongst her paints. Does this woman age? (1985...this could have been taken yesterday) Oh...I love the one where she is holding her guitar, beret on, and the women looking in the bathroom mirror....like she is completely oblivious to Joni Mitchell standing there holding her guitar. IF anyone knows the source of this....please let me know? Bonnie admirer camp, also Bree >I did a search of the JMDL database for articles that mention Bonnie and >there are 20. Go here to read them all: ><> > >PS: I love Bonnie too! > > --Bob _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:56:33 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Letterman njc Absolutely correct, Colin. And like Kate, seeing Clinton reminded me of why I voted for him twice. His intellect and integrity are head and shoulders above the Shrub's. So he had an affair and lied about it...I would rather have that in the white house than someone who lies to get us into a war. I liked Clinton's seriousness too. He did not do any finger pointing or name calling...instead...he offered solutions to problems the current administrations fails to acknowledge...such as peace in the middle east, alternative energy...and contributing to society as a former head of state...like Jimmy Carter does. I hope this missive does not bring entreaties towards me...but...heck I am a beekeeper and gardener...and we know how to withstand stings and maintain patience in order to sustain the wonderful things mother nature gives to us. So, my friends...Kate and Colin...I appreciate your opinions...and Debra...I just read your missive...your wise words...we have to try to make a difference and not be afraid to speak up. Martin, Robert and John were not afraid...and neither is Joni. LOL While I in no way compare myself to them...they set a standard for all of us to strive towards. Anyway...enough ramblings from this old hippie girl. I must get dinner on the table...I made cookies for dessert (which is a good thing to begin meals with). :) Love and Peace....Sharon colin wrote: > > > That's so > > different than the simplistic "good guys vs. bad guys" thinking of our > > current leaders, thinking that's jeopardizing our existence. > > to some people being right and getting even is far more important than life. > The most dangerous country in the world already has huge amounts of weapons of > mass destruction-and has already used them more than once. > The rest of us have sat back and let them and we are all going to pay the price > for that. perhaps sooner than we think or hope. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:44:21 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Bonnie Raitt njc In a message dated 12/09/2002 15:52:22 GMT Daylight Time, lrfye@lrfye.lunarpages.com writes: << Bonnie IS wonderfully earthy. I think my favorite song is "Tangled And Dark" from "Luck Of The Draw." It's so sexy and it ROCKS. >> Longing In Their Hearts is fairly suggestive too - isn't that the one with the line about the guy who's a "short order cook" - I think we know what she means, eh?? Azeem in London NP: Christine Collister - The Dark Gift of Time - Ah, the voice like a warm bath in a candle-lit bathroom, with a glass of champagne in your hand. New album imminent, stand by for a gushing review in these pages... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:56:30 -0700 (PDT) From: hell Subject: Re: Re: Bonnie Raitt njc Azeem wrote: > Longing In Their Hearts is fairly suggestive too - isn't that the > one with the line about the guy who's a "short order cook" - I > think we know what she means, eh?? Interestingly, that song was co-written by Bonnie and her (then, now ex) husband Michael O'Keefe (who starred in Caddy Shack and played Jackie's boyfriend in Roseanne). I guess it's very possible there was some underlying meaning, under the circumstances! I'm definitely a Bonnie fan - more early and late Bonnie. I'm not so keen on the middle body of her work (although I own them all). I would definitely recommend her first and latest albums - the latest (Silver Lining) is a must-have, in my opinion! I saw her live on the tour for this one, and she was incredible! Hell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:00:24 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Something about the BF - NJC I THOUGHT we weren't going to tell him EVER!!!! on 9/12/02 4:16 AM, Catherine McKay at anima_rising@yahoo.ca wrote: >> >> Do you have any idea what we "covers fans" do when >> you finally go to bed at >> Jonifests, Muller? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:00:50 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Shout out to NYC (NJC) and michael's call made me almost bawl, and lifted my heart on a day that was... actually a beautiful day. and i've really been obsessing about 9/11, as several people who talked to me up at jonifest probably realized. but still, yesterday, for the first time, i felt a sense of rebirth. we had the morning off so i went, like i did last year on wednesday, sept 12, to take ballet. my teacher is a wise, spiritual person and the musician was magnificent, and class soothed my soul, just as it did on the morning after, last year. that's why i felt so cheery by noon. treated myself to a nice lunch, worked for six hours and then met some friends after. we went to grace church near union square for a special musical 9/11 service that included fauri's requiem, which has got to be one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written. only organ, harp and solo violin for instruments this time, but full choruses, children's choruses on 'sanctus' and 'in paradisum', a soprano soloist who sang 'pie jesu' in the purest, most serene and most perfectly vibrato-less voice. it was perfect. then out to union square, tons of people gathered in what was one of the most important spaces in the weeks after the disaster. then the four of us went to grab a bite (and a $10 pitcher of beer!) at chat 'n' chew, incuding mac'n'cheese, sweet potato fries, a complete comfort food pigout. and i looked around and i felt, 'we're alright.' it's definitely naive, new york still has a great big target painted on it, but i seem to feel a little better, and i'm grateful for that. and michael's call was so welcome. recently i re-read most of the posts to this list written in the hours and days after the attack. there was strife, but there was so much care, care that i don't think i properly appreciated at the time. i feel that care much more this year. patrick np - a gershwin collection >Just a shout out to all my people in NYC. I sat on the couch tonight and >watched the concert for NYC and had a couple of martinis watered down with >tears. I thought about you all and remembered all the feelings >over the past >year. Tried to call a couple of ya's tonight to represent, but only managed >to talk to my boy Patrick who was a beacon of bright light and feeling like >it was a beautiful day again today. Hope all is well with you all. > >Love > >Paz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:10:16 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Don't forget it's Thurday, chatroom time is at 10:00PM est don't be late sorry for the njc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:25:14 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob (NJC) The "Bad Bob" wrote" > "But Bob Murphy is truly terrific. I love that man. I am very > impressed and honored by the work he has done for me with Joni in Fiction." > > Joni then giggled as she said, "I wonder if he's straight . . ." > > Just as Joni had wondered about Charles Neslon Reilly, Paul Lynn, and Richard Simmons :~)............just kidding Murphy..........I love you I love you I love you.....please don't put a hex on me. xo Jimmy, who is attempting to watch the *new* "Family Affair" with Tim Curry as Mr. French. I'm waiting for him to belt out "Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire" LOL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:51:40 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: the Bobs are killing me! NJC Is this the Edmund Fitzgearls thread?? I use to do that song a long time ago and it is very easy. I am after all a Michigander. Paz P.S. The Bobs have ALWAYS killed me! on 9/12/02 6:27 AM, SCJoniGuy@aol.com at SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >> At the next Jonifest, I'll ask >> Bob Muller to hum it for me, with a bit of luck he'll have >> it ringing in his >> head for the next few days then! > > Lieve, it would be my EXTREME pleasure to do this. I'm sure Victor already > knows it! > > And Vince, thanks for your wonderful post! It's always refreshing to me to see > that songs still have such meaning & power for others even long after they've > dried up for me. Ah, the power of music! > > Kudos too for your work on the 9/11 service, I know it provided healing for > you & many others. As for me, I spent the evening watching my son's baseball > team play. He did a great job behind the plate, threw out two runners, and > scored the first run in a 6-run rally that clinched the game for us. > > Bob > > NP: The Who, "Won't Get Fooled Again" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:55:59 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: a collage of thoughts Jonifest 2002 WoW!!!!! For some reason I had Peggy Lee pop into my head singing... Is That All There Is? Mum must be messing with me head tonight! Mags this was so amazing. Thanks for the post. Maybe see you after dinner in the chat room Love Paz on 9/12/02 10:09 AM, Mags N Brei at magsnbrei@yahoo.com wrote: > Encouraged to do so, I am posting this to the 'big list' . It took me a > long time to figure out how to express the multitude of feelings and > experiences surrounding this year's Fest. Here's what happened, I got > out of my head and into my heart and just let the images fly. You may > notice Ive not mentioned many names directly. If you look closer, you > will find yourself there. Count on it. You are in my heart. > > love, Mags > >>> >> >> >> stolen moments in the light of the moon >> >> Sharing our honeymoon with 80 or our closest friends >> >> Seeing the entourage run to greet us even before we got out of our >> car >> >> >> the honeymoon suite >> >> >> >> Being close proximity to the hot tamales Lezz Cottage and that Friday >> night howling at the moon Fest that surely had the bears dancing in >> the >> woods. >> >> Being a part of Sugar Pants, a celebration of friendship, sisterhood >> and diversity.. For those of you who dont know, this is a group >> of beautiful, amazing women , my behind the scenes life line. To >> say >> that we are sisters is an understatement. The friendship and >> community >> we share is our sanctuary The best. We talk, share, cry, bitch, >> complain, tell each other things we would never tell our real >> sisters, and best of all, we know how to laugh and have fun. All of >> which brought us to the place of thinking it might be fun to add a >> little Sugar, Honey, Granola, Tequila, Canoli and Candy to the mix on >> stage at Fest. Oh, did I mention Feathers?? Hey, just you wait until >> next year! >> >> Connections. >> New connections. >> Renewed connections. >> Dimensions and friends and friendships. >> >> Breathtaking performances on stage and off. >> >> Seeing so many new faces. >> >> Other canadians >> >> a Canadian shirt. >> >> a Canadian flag >> >> The circle dance. >> >> love >> >> old love, new love, renewed love . the possibility of love. the >> butterflies dancing in your tumm non-stop love. >> >> Clouds >> >> Light >> >> mountains >> >> >> >> shadows across Catskill mountains >> hawks circlingund and hearing Brian tell me that they must have >> followed me from Canada. (he knows I miss my hawks). >> >> Sunday night endless hugs >> >> The Sunday night song circle, for all the reasons I gushed about >> before. >> >> hugs without words >> >> more hugs without words. >> >> all the precious friendships that mean everything to us >> >> snowflakes >> cards >> books >> bubbles >> photo albums >> needlepoint >> friendship >> wedding songs >> more cards >> hugs >> more hugs >> wolf songs >> >> >> >> >> >> >> hearing Anne Sandstrom sing, and knowing she really was there with >> us. >> >> Laughing >> >> underbite >> >> diamonds >> >> >> >> a myriad of images which melt into a place of knowing that we have >> found a place of paradise. As a wise man once said (more than >> once!)we >> have found all the friends weve always wanted our whole life. >> >> sorrow for the fact that I didnt get a chance to talk to nearly as >> many people as I had hoped >> >> >> Chocolate >> >> Flowers >> >> Being married to Brian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ===== >> You open my heart, you do. >> Yes you do. >> - JM >> Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >> http://finance.yahoo.com >> > > > ===== > You open my heart, you do. > Yes you do. > - JM > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:01:53 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: "PazFest", the 2 CD set, JC at least for now THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THR PLUG!. Not on Ryko YET!!! And bouzouki is spelled as such just so you know. But thanks I need ALL the plugs I can get. Sales are steady but somewhat slower than I thought. Love Paz P.S. And Ryko will be asking me how many I sold on the list.... on 9/12/02 3:31 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama) at jlamadoo@fuse.net wrote: > "PazFest" was known to many of us as the JoniFest in New Orleans in 2000. > The days before and after were kind of a multi-day JMDL event that > culminated with New Orleans musicians doing a salute to Joni with many > JMDLers thrown in for good measure as a fundraiser for the Ruth Paz > Foundation. > > http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest/jfno2000.cfm > > This thing was a wonderful tribute concert. Stephen in Dallas, you were > asking about a tribute disc? Forget Elvis Costello! Check this out! > > You like chick singers? Check out Susan Cowsill. You want to hear a > monster play a Greek hybrid of guitar and mandolin called a bazouki? Check > out Beth Patterson. You want a rip-roaring, wildly inventive, fun, and > tasty spin on Joni? Check out the headliners, the Bryan Thomas Band. > > Those of us who were there will never, ever forget it. Those of us who > weren't have a chance to catch a whiff of the excitement soon. > > "PazFest", a 2 CD set on Rykodisc. Catch it while you can. > > Lama > > ps, I need a ruling from the njc community. A 2 CD set of Joni Covers is > Joni Content or not? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:04:49 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: NJC Bree's Beatles ? Love Me Do!! on 9/12/02 4:33 PM, Randy Remote at guitarzan@direcpc.com wrote: > Lots of them: off the top of my head > Paperback Writer > She Loves You > Eleanor Rigby > Strawberry Fields > Bungalow Bill > Love Me Do > Tell Me Why > Baby's In Black > Cry Baby Cry > The Word > Michelle > I'm Looking Through You > > ...tired...can't...type any more........ugghh > RR > > >> >> Which Beatles song starts >> out with the chorus? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:18:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Warren Zevon - njc **Zevon Diagnosed With Untreatable Cancer** Yes, this news truly blows. Zevon's "Excitable Boy" is perfect, just like the werewolf's hair at Trader Vic's. I'm also partial to the song he wrote with Springsteen "Jeannie Needs A Shooter", his entire live album "Stand In The Fire", and the record he recorded with REM as a backup band. Send Lawyers, Guns & Money...the sh*t has hit the fan...I'll be pulling for ya' big guy. Bob NP: Big Yellow Taxi, "Both Sides Now" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:20:42 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob ** "That shifty Bob Muller is a smarmy guy, a real turd. Not to be trusted." ** Proving once again that... "Joni Mitchell Never Lies!" :~D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:25:58 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "PazFest", the 2 CD set, JC at least for now **"PazFest", a 2 CD set on Rykodisc. Catch it while you can.** Yes indeed...my check goes out tomorrow! But it's not on Rykodisc, Michael's releasing it independently. And YES YES YES, Joni covers are 100% JC! :~) Bob NP: Big Yellow Taxi, "Sunny Sunday" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:47:26 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: My 9/11 Have to add my own story here though some of you may be tired of hearing it. The 11th doesn't seem to be a very auspicious time of the month for me. I lost my partner of 9 years, my beloved Edward on February 11, of 1993. I have vivid memories of driving to work in the months prior to that listening to Joni singing 'Turning and turning within the widening gyre/the falcon cannot hear the falconer/Things fall apart/The center cannot hold'. Cul's description of the eagle reminded me of it again. And there is my own story about an eagle that I posted a few months ago. 9/11 is still too fresh in my memory for me to want to turn on the television and see the images play themselves out again. I can only try to imagine what those who were directly affected by this horror must be feeling. I wish healing and hope for all of you. You are not alone, Cul, as Sharon has already told you. Peace and Healing to You Both and To All Who Are Feeling the Pain of Loss, Mark E in Seattle > Dear Cul: > > Thank you so much for sharing your 9-11 experience with the jmdl. I am > so sorry you lost your partner. I know how important words can be...I > had lost my partner, Sheila, of 17 years to brain cancer. She died > December 5, 1998 and I listened to Joni's River so many times. Every > time I hear that song now I am transported back to the time of Sheila's > death. > > Your Dan, like the all those who die senseless or even expected deaths > are not forgotten. Instead they are remembered in a myriad of different > ways, with marker posts along the way. It does not matter whether others > come into our lives. I remember my father and my mother and my Sheila. > It is good to remember because it reminds me to not delay the joy. > > In Peace...Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:49:11 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: "PazFest", the 2 CD set, JC at least for now Muller types: << And YES YES YES, Joni covers are 100% JC! :~) >> But the real great news is . . . your Joni in Fiction submissions are ALWAYS JC. What's more, we have a very special gift for the lucky 1,000,000th visitor to Joni in Fiction . . . a brand new Sunbeam coffee percolator! Love to all you wonderful people, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:13:55 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: joni on bonnie and linda and bob and bob (NJC) > Jimmy, who is attempting to watch the *new* "Family Affair" with Tim Curry as > Mr. French. I'm waiting for him to belt out "Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire" > LOL > Or 'I'm just a sweet transvestite from Transsexual Transylvania' Mark E ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:54:46 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni new release njc Also, George Harrison's posthumous CD "Brainwashed" will be released Nov. 18 and hopefully new Fiona Apple, too. RR Chuck Eisenhardt wrote: > In todays' NYTimes amid thumbnails of fall record releases: > > JONI MITCHELL Her latest will be a double album of new material, > with a string orchestra, jazz musicians (her friends Wayne Shorter > and Herbie Hancock) and possibly many other superstars who have > been said to pass through the studio. Nov 19 Reprise. > > Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:16:22 -0700 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Re: Warren Zevon - njc This chaps my ass, severely. Warren's one of the greats. Zero degrees of separation from Joni, too, as close as WZ is to Jackson Brown. Did WZ and JM ever collaborate, anyone? _Exciteable Boy_, circa '79, changed my life. I still fancy myself an "innocent bystander." Do yourself a favor and get Zevon's anthology, _I'll Sleep When I Dead_. Yeah, it's ironic. He's a master of the sardonic. This white man covered the New Orleans Mardi Gras Indian dance standard "Iko Iko" in '69. Can you dig it? No. Really. Can you?! His whole oeuvre is genius. Feck!!! For the love of God, fewer bombs and more comittment to cancer research. More accountability for RJReynolds and the like! This shit is preventable! - -Julius n.p. WZ: "There's certain girl I've been in love with for such a long time... (what's her name?) I can't tell ya." P.S. I hear he's scheduled for Leno in the near future. Keep an eye on your local listings. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:39:00 -0400 From: vince Subject: 9-11 another way njc SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > More nauseatingly self aggrandizement. Loathe this pig. Thank you Bob for using this quote in a way that made me laugh! I am going to get T-shirts made... 9-11, yesterday was the 25th anniversary of my ordination. I proposed and co-produced our community September 11th service - we had about 675 people present, I live in a town of 8,000, do the math on the percentage - what would anyone do? You all know my politics - very leftist Democrat in small town Republican western Michigan - and you know that a certain percentage of this community thinks that I am a spawn of Satan because I am gay and Christian and an open and out pastor. Gossip loves it even more because I work full time to support my ministry to adults in foster care, working full time as legal assistant and office manager for the love of my life and my former partner, the former city attorney, who is slowly sinking off the deep end with this own madness and his little whore. And in a small town like this, everything is hidden, but nothing is secret. All I heard today was from people who were not at our community service, who told me that they heard how good it was, I can truly say it was the talk of the town - the service went from 6:30 until 9:00 and maybe 10 people at most left early and it ended with the people in a standing ovation. The service skillfully avoided politics, controversy, and satisfied the small peace contingent in the community, and our American Legion/VFW folks... a whole slew of Republican county people came to me and thanked me for what we did last night and they don't do that easy here, not thanking me, the vice chair of the local county Dems and a candidate in the last county election. The Bush campaign people thanked me, so you know I hit the right note of being non-partisan, which may astound you who read my political posts, but actually, I have a bit of a reputation for knowing when and where to be partisan and when and where not to be, and last night was not the time or place. We were perhaps the only memorial service in all of America that did NOT sing God Bless America , no flags, or do anything jingoistic or chauvinistic in its original sense - and I worked damned hard to have it come out that way, and even more, for no one to notice what we didn't do because they were enthralled, moved, touched by what we did. I think almost everyone cried at some point last night, because what we did was effective. My entire congregation was there, in the wheelchairs, and the only African American family in the community, my people, there at the service, And I chanted the litany - 10 minutes of me singing - you all never heard me sing, I cannot sing, I cannot hold key, but I chant beautifully (took voice lessons to learn how) but it takes me a lot, a lot, a lot of practice so I can hold key, and breathing exercises and I drank a gallon of water before the service to keep my throat moist, and I have never done it before a crowd that size and I haven't done the litany in maybe 15 years and I was doing it with an organist who had never done it. Performers out there - how do you feel when you go out for the biggest performance of your life with a musician whom you only met two days before, with whom you never worked, and with whom you had less than 5 minutes of practice, who had never played what you were doing? Damn straight I nailed it! Given everything, to stand before a crowd of that much of my community, on such a day, with all the emotion involved, knowing what some folks think of me - to do a liturgical chant that was new to many of them, let alone by organist - and sing out, Lord, have mercy - Christ have mercy - Lord have mercy... the choir, seated right behind me, fell into my rhythm and I led, they answered, I led, they answered, it flowed, it was beautiful. Now I could tell you about all the times in other services that I hit wrong notes, but you performers out there, you know what it is that I felt, the same pride that Paz showed in his Ruth Paz tapes, that same moment that you really want to come through and so much is riding on it and you know you nailed it, you know one time you got it right in the most daunting of circumstances - and when you have that joy of having done well, you share it with your friends - so I bragged a bit last night in my post. As I am now. I have heard the word "arrogant" applied to me - self aggrandizement would be another term - Bob Seger sings of being on stage, trying to give yourself way - pastor, singer, actor, whatever, we know when we hit it it, and when we miss. Last night was my grand slam, the service as a whole, the sung litany... I unwound last night going off a bit on the Edmund Fitzgerald. More know it all Vince going on and on and on as if he knows everything, yeah, I know. Lay on my bed, prop the pillow, and you will see a large poster of The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. To your left, a framed picture of the Edmund Fitz on the St Claire River. To your right, a framed picture of the Straits of Mackinac, and of the last ferry boat before the bridge was built, and I am old enough to have ridden that ferry boat. Sit at my computer where the most important books in my life are all in arms reach, and to my left, on the shelves next to my next, Great Lakes Shipwrecks and Survivors, the Edmund Fitzgerald edition, by Wm. Ratigan which is next to, can you guess which Gordon Lightfoot song is being quoted, The Gales of November, by Robt. J. Hemming. They are next to my extensive Titanic collection, which is a warning to never start a discussion on Titanic... [Gage story: my grandchild can tell you what an orlop deck is, where the squash court was located, the tensile strength of 1912 steel in ice cold water because of its carbon content, and we have a weekly ritual of looking at the piece of coal that was on the Titanic that I bought at the Chicago exhibit in 2000 - and he is proud because he is the only person in the world who knows where I keep my Titanic coal hidden so it will not get lost.] And this is another long Vince post, how boring, but let me tell you, for all the stuff that i have posted on, I do not post on: Joni tunings - I have no idea what an open tuning is, since I do play guitar or any instrument other than 1 finger piano, which i play to practice chanting and sound out new hymns Joni lyrics - not since 1999, when I misread A case of You and was so soundly embarrassed I have never ventured a Joni lyric interpretation again martinis or other drinks - I am allergic to alcohol (no problem, very economical) so I know nothing about mixed drinks Jonatha Brooke or other artists not in Rolling Stone top ten album sales, because I have never heard of 90% of the artists everyone loves, but you do know I will wax eloquently on how Eminem is the Mozart of our generation and Linkin Park are the prophets of our age. Jazz. Like sprouts and hummus, I know it is good for me, but not on my plate, in my lifetime. I don't understand it, like it, and I know it is my limitation so I say nothing about it. David Lynch movies. Cinema slut I am, I don't like his work but I don't say anything because as Eminem's mother said, if you can't say something nice, then shut the fuck up. Gourmet dining/cooking/chic restaurants. With all of my food allergies, the #1 item in my refrigerator is non fat soy milk, not a gourmet item, and I am too cheap to buy any food in a restaurant that costs more than what I make in one hour of work - plus I couldn't it anyway probably. Cats. I never post on cats. Had two good cats, the only good cats that ever lived, they died, no other cat is worth having in my opinion, and as Eminem's mother said... Cricket. Soccer. Rugby. Know nothing. Say nothing. French poets. I never post on French poets. Or 18th century English poets. I can do a riff on late 20th century Russian poets, but to whom? So I never post on these topics. Joni concerts other than the three I have been at. Joni trivia, Which version of MOA has what spoken dialogue. I just don't know! Cars. Star Trek. Rodeos. County western music. Foreign travel. (I have been to Canada a few times; Mags, here is your Canada mention, I can vouch, Canada exists.) Gay porn, Joni body parts, Joni's private life, Joni's partners, male anatomy, animal husbandry, sound systems, how to cut a cd, problems with anything Microsoft. These have all been threads in the JMDL at some point since I joined in late 98, not sure why some of them were threads at all, and I avoided all of them. Never posted to them. Either knew nothing, thought it was in bad taste, or thought it was none of my business. So this is just a nauseating sample of the things that I do not post about. And never will. I always post on the anniversary of Janis Joplin's death and Kent State and Martin Luther King's death, but those are always one-line posts. So next time I am boring the hell out of someone, and aggravating you with my know it all ism or my arrogance about what I do post about, be thankful that there is such a list of these and other topics that I will never post about. But know that when I do post, it is not because I like to show off my knowledge or else I would do a comparative analysis of the western liturgy in the Roman, Anglican, Lutheran, Reformed, and other protestant traditions, or the conflict between pietism and Grundtvig's teachings in 19th century Denmark and 20th century Danish American communities. But I have never posted on those subjects, never will. I always post because someone has posted something that gets me thinking, and I share that with my friends, my Joni family. And if you don't like what I post, you have the option of being really cheerful when you delete my posts, or set up your filters to delete all my posts as they come in so they are never in your inbox. Or tell me privately what an asshole I am. Because sometimes I am and I need to know that, too. Speaking of obscure artists I know nothing about: Linda Thompson is on Letterman right now, and I don't get it, even having read the extensive Tribune articles about her, and hearing the NPR show on her, and all, she is someone else who I know is a great artist and it escapes me. If i were booking for Letterman's show, I would book all the JoniFest acts, and Linkin Park, and Eminem, and Aretha Franklin, and Neil Young, and Joni. And all the rap groups I love. Maybe that is why I am stuck here in rural western Michigan, being such a bore in cyber space, you think? boring and arrogant as ever, Vince who will not be here for a dew days, so your prayers have been answered! Off to Chicago to see the Stones. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:40:24 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: Warren Zevon - njc Amen! and Right On Julius!!!! You go, you the Man!!! thanks gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julius Raymond" To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Warren Zevon - njc > This chaps my ass, severely. Warren's one of the greats. Zero degrees of > separation from Joni, too, as close as WZ is to Jackson Brown. Did WZ and > JM ever collaborate, anyone? > > _Exciteable Boy_, circa '79, changed my life. I still fancy myself an > "innocent bystander." Do yourself a favor and get Zevon's anthology, _I'll > Sleep When I Dead_. Yeah, it's ironic. He's a master of the sardonic. > > This white man covered the New Orleans Mardi Gras Indian dance standard "Iko > Iko" in '69. Can you dig it? No. Really. Can you?! His whole oeuvre is > genius. > > Feck!!! For the love of God, fewer bombs and more comittment to cancer > research. More accountability for RJReynolds and the like! This shit is > preventable! > > -Julius > > n.p. WZ: "There's certain girl I've been in love with for such a long > time... (what's her name?) I can't tell ya." > > P.S. I hear he's scheduled for Leno in the near future. Keep an eye on your > local listings. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:57:40 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #362 - Clinton NJC Stayed up to watch Letterman last night. Clinton was the guest & I watched Clinton on Letterman, too. At one point during the interview, it hit me: "Holy crap, this guy is six times smarter then George W. Bush." Brings to mind Big Yellow Taxi, if you know what I mean. Bryan Haughty by Nature ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:21:14 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: 9-11 another way njc great job, boy! you're still pretty wound up, stay off the caffine for awhile and enjoy the natural high. it's even going to get greater watching the stones. enjoy!!!! you earned it. take care gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "vince" To: "joni" Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:39 PM Subject: 9-11 another way njc > SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > > > > More nauseatingly self aggrandizement. Loathe this pig. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #363 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)