From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #347 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 4 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 347 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: September 3 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Today in History: September 3 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] njc old/new lister [Angela.Takats@reuters.com] Re: laughing it all away ["kakki" ] Re: world map njc ["kakki" ] Re: NJC More Fest Stuff ["kakki" ] Re: world map njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] "PazFest 2000" is real, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: njc old/new lister [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] re: HEY ALL!!! ["Garret" ] Re: Coupla things [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: More Jonifest 2002 moments NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: njc old/new lister [vince ] Re: "PazFest 2000" is real, njc [Jerry Notaro ] Fw: [womenfriends] Fwd: Singer Michelle Mayfield, Homophobic? ["Lee Ashle] Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc [Alison E ] Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Coupla things [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JM tribute in Vienna, Va. NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Coupla things ["kakki" ] Re: Coupla things ["gene mock" ] Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc [Mags N Brei ] Re: Coupla things NJC [Mags N Brei ] Re: Coupla things ["kakki" ] Jonifest 2002 - long, sorry! ["hell" ] sjc hippy music in Thailand [Angela.Takats@reuters.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:10:47 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today's Library Links: September 3 On September 3 the following item was published: 1970: "Canadian Wins Ovation At Isle Of Wight Festival" - Welland Evening Tribune (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/700903wet.cfm - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:10:47 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today in History: September 3 1979: Joni performed at the Memorial Coliseum in Portland, Oregon More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790904oj.cfm - ---- For the most complete reference to Joni's appearances, consult the Joni Mitchell Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 15:52:22 +0700 From: Angela.Takats@reuters.com Subject: njc old/new lister hey Listers, I have just re-joined the JMDL after being away for 3 years. I used to be a jmdler when I lived in Sydney, but since then I have moved to Thailand and been pretty flat out living life in south east asia. But hello to Ashara if you remember me from your trip down under, and Victor - thanks again for introducing me to Nick Drake - I am still in love with his music. Life is crazy in Thailand - I have been working as a television producer and also started singing on Friday and Saturday nights with two thai guys who are wonderful musicians. It's my first paid gig and I have learnt so much since i started a year ago with them. We do all the great hippy stuff - - joni of course, CSNY, janis, bonnie, grateful dead. The reason I have rejoined the list is because I want some music advice from those listers in Canada. I am going on holidays to Vancouver and Toronto in Oct (sussing out the country to see if i wanna move there next yr!) and wanted some info about places to hear good folk rock/blues in town...or places to jam??? Catherine in Toronto has already suggested Hughes? any more tips? Glad to be back in this friendly place of joni fans. angela in bangkok - ------------------------------------------------------------- --- Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 02:12:50 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: laughing it all away Hey Jenny, Jack was one of many that I dearly missed at this fest. He is truly phenomenal and was Paz's numero uno angel at the fest in New Orleans. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 02:23:58 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: world map njc Aw Mack, I was gonna sign up but then I fretted about my little city tag line. "City of the Fallen Angels" is just so obvious but I guess it has my number on it :-) I'm still trying to come up with something more original. Kakki Mack wrote: > Why are so many not yet on the world map? Kakki, Bree, etc. Hell, you are so > darn cute down there in New Zealand. Wanted to give you a big hug. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 02:32:17 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: NJC More Fest Stuff Bob wrote: > I don't think anyone's mentioned the Howling Wolf recordings that Paz > brought...OMG!!! Took me right back to that memorable night. Kakki, I thought > of our open-mouthed expressions with every track! LOL! I tried to smuggle the > recording out of the Full Moon, but Paz put a Honduras/Cajun sleeper hold on > me and I was toast. But he promises a September release, possibly on > Rykodisc. I'm yippying I'm yappying I'm so excited!! "The waiting is the hardest part" but all good things come to those who wait, eh? ;-) I'm just ecstatic that this may be finally coming to fruition.. And maybe on Rykodisc! Yeah! From the sounds of it you all could also get something on a label from the last fest, too! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:13:44 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: world map njc >Aw Mack, > >I was gonna sign up but then I fretted about my little city tag line. >"City >of the Fallen Angels" is just so obvious but I guess it has my number on it >:-) I'm still trying to come up with something more original. > >Kakki > >Mack wrote: > > > Why are so many not yet on the world map? Kakki, Bree, etc. Hell, you >are so > > darn cute down there in New Zealand. Wanted to give you a big hug. Well...I just wrote Mack and told him I took the plunge and I'm pinned now. IT was comical...every time I tried to click on submit the box would move. I chased it a good five minutes...from all angles. Good fest pictures everyone!! You all look so beautiful...like people I would want to get to know. Night.... Bree _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 07:16:18 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: "PazFest 2000" is real, njc Here's some news that's not to be forgotten amongst all of the "JoniFest 2002 NE" news. Paz brought an advance copy of one of the discs of the "JoniFest 2000 New Orleans", to be called "PazFest" if I remember correctly. Ever the skeptic, I am now convinced that the remote truck on the curb in front of "The Howlin' Wolf" really was recording! :) Are you guys ready for the first official, live, release from the Bryan Thomas Band? heh heh. On the porch of Full Moon Central, when I said something particularly positive about his music, Bryan shook his head and said, "You are like my *MOM or something!" Everyone needs a hobby. Besides, if I could bring back George Harrison and say something positive, you think I wouldn't? I can't but all of our JMDLers are fair game. Maybe next year I'll do a little set. I'm thinking about the David Crosby song, "Lee Shore", backed by everyone's favorite producer. I'm also thinking about "Lean On Me" by Bill Withers. How's that for a 70s version of eclecticism? (Hey, I might actually be able to play it, it's so slow. Plus, maybe a second keyboard playing the stings would work.) Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:41:50 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Re: Coupla things It was a movie called 'Magkapatid' starring Sharon > Cuneta. Over the credits what should I hear but Sharon Cuneta singing > 'Both Sides Now.' I figured the Covers King already had this one (I > think Joseph Palis had talked about Sharon before) but I checked the da! > tabase anyway and sure enough, it was there. Travis isn't a Joni fan > but he heard his coworker humming BSN and asked her if she knew whose > song that was. She told him about the movie and he made sure I got a > 'Joni moment' yesterday. Mark: MAGKAPATID (Siblings) was a very successful movie of Sharon Cuneta here in the Philippines. If you watched that movie (hopefully dubbed in English), you will know that not only did she sing "Both Sides Now" in the credits, but the ENTIRE movie's musical scoring is all about BSN variations. When that movie came out, I looked at the soundtrack section of the local record store but I was informed that no soundtrack from that movie is available or forthcoming. Instead, the record producers re-released Sharon's WHEN I LOVE album where BSN is found. It would have been great to have a soundtrack devoted solely for BSN. By the way, Sharon Cuneta is probably the most successful personality in the country. She endorses products, she sings well, she acts well, she is married to a morally upright senator. And she is the first singer to sing a Joni-composed song on record. Joseph in Manila ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 07:50:30 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: njc old/new lister Welcome back Angela...that sounds so grown up, I remember you as "Ange"! ;~) We've missed you, thanks for re-connecting. Glad to hear that things are going so well with you. I'm sure you'll get lots of musical tips if you hang around. After all we DO have impeccable taste! ;~) Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Diamonds and Gold" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:11:31 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: re: HEY ALL!!! Well Kev, welcome to the list:) We're all a bit bogged down with Jonifest at the moment, but yea, TI is a fantastic album. When i first got it i did the same thing as you. Just didn't get into it. I came back to it some months later and since then it has become one of the most listened to CDs i own:) Sire of Sorrow is simply superb. Which other Joni albums are you into? Looking forward to hearing more from you. GARRET NP- Nina Simone, Blues For Mama > >I've been into Joni for a while now but have for some strange reason have never listened to >Turbulent Indigo all the way through(whattan oversight) I am totally blown away and i have to >share this with you cause i know you understand..Im so glad the JMDL is here ive met some >really cool people and ive only just begun(like Karen heehee) thanx again to Harry for the info >and everyone whos been so nice to a newcomer and I would also like to say welcome to the >other JMDL newbies so..........Peace Love Happiness and all general good things to you >all********************kev*********************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:00:00 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Coupla things I'd been wondering where you got to, Mark! Yes, you would have definitely been blissed at Jonifest 2002, you were missed to be sure. Joseph Palis was indeed the one to turn us on to that Sharon Cuneta cover - she does a good job with it too! That one was shared waaaaay back on Volume 2, which I've just remastered from source recordings to get a better sound, plus I took off the "contributions" and consolidated them onto another collection, so Volume 2 is now 3-cd's thick as opposed to the original 4. Anybody who missed Volume 2 the first time 'round and wants to check it out, lemme know and I'll getcha "covered". Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Midtown" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:02:30 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: More Jonifest 2002 moments NJC Jenny, thanks for sharing the moments...I find myself going "Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that!"...Really & truly, the whole darn weekend was ONE GREAT MOMENT after another! Thanks too for your encouragement - you are too sweet for this world. Next year let's do a song from Pippin! :~) Bob NP: Tom Waits, "9th & Hennepin" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:12:57 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: njc old/new lister welcome back Angela! It has been a long time - glad you are well! Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:34:38 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: "PazFest 2000" is real, njc "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" wrote: > Here's some news that's not to be forgotten amongst all of the "JoniFest > 2002 NE" news. Paz brought an advance copy of one of the discs of the > "JoniFest 2000 New Orleans", to be called "PazFest" if I remember correctly. > > Ever the skeptic, I am now convinced that the remote truck on the curb in > front of "The Howlin' Wolf" really was recording! :) Are you guys ready > for the first official, live, release from the Bryan Thomas Band? heh heh. > > On the porch of Full Moon Central, when I said something particularly > positive about his music, Bryan shook his head and said, "You are like my > *MOM or something!" And when y'all finally get your hands on this sizzler set of cd's, I want you to remember that Bryan got to go on about 1 a.m., after about 7 hours of previous music playing on stage. The crowd had quite thinned out by then. Bryan and his band came on with style and grace and as a true professionals. Then knocked all of our socks off with their playing. Jerry np: Betty Buckley - Neverland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 06:38:00 -0700 (PDT) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: More Jonifest 2002 moments > How about Shiny Toys as a least fave? Don't worry Don Rowe is gone and won't have > a shit hemmorage over that one.. HEH hee. > Yeah, but I'm here LOL! I'm contemplating doing (recording) all of DED acoustically and having it ready by next year's Fest. There'll be minimal instrumentation on it, more in the spirit of Night Ride Home. Of course, I'd love to have a voice like Christina's on it, but for now mine will have to do... lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:56:32 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "PazFest 2000" is real, njc > The crowd had quite thinned out by then. Bryan > and his band came on with style and grace and as a true > professionals. Then > knocked all of our socks off with their playing. Not to mention those of us who had succumbed to 7 hours of Rolling Rocks! I was reeling that night, so I pretty much heard Bryan's set for the first time at the Full Moon. And suprise, surprise...awesome. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Blue Valentines" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:55:58 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: world map njc > >I was gonna sign up but then I fretted about my little city tag line. > >"City > >of the Fallen Angels" is just so obvious but I guess it has my number on it City of our very own angel would be appropriate. A living doll, to borrow a phrase. > IT was comical...every time I tried to click on submit the box would move. > I chased it a good five minutes...from all angles. It can be a challenge. I keep trying to find some room next to Sybil and we are 200 miles apart. Are there more Joni fans in that area. I suppose there are and I wonder why. Then again, I know why. Great to see you there Bree. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:28:22 -0700 From: "Lee Ashley" Subject: Fw: [womenfriends] Fwd: Singer Michelle Mayfield, Homophobic? >Subject: Singer Michelle Mayfield, Homophobic? >Date: Tu, 29 Aug 2002 23:14:53 -0700 > > > >Subject: Singer Michelle Mayfield, Homophobic? > > > > Prior to this email, I had never heard of Michelle Mayfield. Apparently > she is a musician who is (was) up and coming and had acquired a rather > large gay/lesbian fan base. Her heterosexual fans were unhappy with the >public displays of outwardly gay behavior at her shows, so Ms. Mayfield >felt inclined to write the following email to her "friends and fans." >Following her email, is a response from one very angry lesbian. > > Another ironic tidbit of information that you might be interested to know >is that if you go to Ms. Mayfield's website and view her available > CDs, you'll see that she has a live CD on which she covers various >artists. Strangely enough, #8 is Melissa Etheridge's "Like The Way I Do." > > Please do your best to keep this email circulating and feel free to email >Ms. Mayfield with your thoughts at michellemayfield@h... > > > The letter from Michelle: > > A Letter to My Fans; > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 > > Dear Fans and Friends, > > First of all, I want to thank all of you for your continued support of > me and my music. I have enjoyed the past year and am very excited about > what is in my future. However, there is a situation that has been > brought to my attention that needs to be addressed. > > At the present time, within my fanbase there is a significant group of > people who have alternate sexual preferences. Please know that I > appreciate my fanbase no matter who or what they are - I, in no way, >shape, or form am complaining. However, as an artist, I am continually > wanting to expand that fanbase - to mothers and fathers, to college > students, to teenagers, etc. I honestly believe my music has the appeal > to be able to do that. It is not only important to me personally, but > it is imperative for my future ~ record executives are looking for artists >with an established and significant following - they don't do very many >"developmental" deals these days. > > However, I have had several complaints from bar owners, friends, fans,and >potential fans regarding the outwardly show of affection that has taken >place at my shows. This type of behavior, right or wrong, reflects on me as >the artist who has brought you to that club. Let me give you some examples: > > 1) I have several friends who will not ask their families, friends or >coworkers to shows because of this behavior and the potential negative >reflection that may be projected upon them as fans of mine. > >2) A gentleman from a show at "The Six of Clubs" made a comment in the > men's bathroom, "What's going on here tonight? I thought this was a > straight bar." > > As an artist, I want to be known for my MUSIC. It is VERY IMPORTANT to > me to NOT be stereotyped, pidgeonholed, or categorized in a way that will >alienate anyone from listening or coming to see my shows. I do not want to >become a Melissa Etheridge or a Patrice Pike (although I love them both and >respect them very much as artists) - most people don't think about their >music first.....they think of their sexual orientation - whether right or >wrong, that's the way it is. Whether I am straight or gay, it is no one's >business in the first place and I, personally, am not open to making that >anyone's business. It should be about the music...period. > > I cannot control the behavior of anyone, however, I am respectfully > asking all of you as fans and friends to please be respectful of what I > am trying to accomplish as an artist. Please be respectful of the places >where I am performing by being aware of the actions that can possibly turn >potential fans away from my music or from my future shows. > >I want EVERYONE to feel comfortable coming to my shows - and from what I've >been told, people are not comfortable because of this behavior. If this >means you cannot continue to support me or come to my future shows, then I >will understand and respect that decision. I appreciate your support up >until this time. > > I sincerely hope you will understand the purpose of this letter and will > respect my request. > > Thanks for your continued support ~ > > Michelle > > > The response: > > An Open Letter to Michelle Mayfield 8.13.2002 > >H, Michelle > > I got a copy of your note written to your friends and fans asking that your >gay and lesbian fans, the "significant group of people who have alternate >sexual preferences," do their best to hide their sexual orientation when >they come to hear you perform. > > You say that you are worried for your heterosexual fans who might be > subject to "the potential negative reflection that may be projected upon > them as fans of mine" if people realize you've got a lot of queer fans. > > Gosh, I'm sure it must be hard on you to have to deal with "the outwardly >show of affection that has taken place" at your shows and all those badly >behaved lesbians and gay men. All those dykes humping each other's legs to >the rhythm of your music and whatnot; it must be terrible. So, just to show >you how concerned I am about this awful situation, me and my friends doing >everything we can to make sure that all the queer-acting folks stay away >from your shows in order to make sure that your squeamish heterosexual fans >feel okay about being there. > >In fact, I'll even work on convincing the queer-acting people who do go to >your shows to make sure that everyone in the venue knows they are *not* a >fan of yours. That should make you really happy. > > How are we going to do this? First, we'll send out the e-mail to everyone >we know, so they get the idea. Then we'll also send it to e-mail groups, >like Austingrrls, SublimeAustin, AustinFeminists and the NOW lists and other >gay and lesbian lists around the state. I'll even make sure to send it to >Aggie Pride, the gay and lesbian list for former A&M students, since, like >you, I'm a graduate of Texas A&M (Class of '91. Whoop!) and Aggies like to >help each other out, right? And I'll make sure to put a link to it on my >website. > >But we might miss a few people if we just rely on the internet, so we'll > send your letter out to publications that gay and lesbian people read,like >the Texas Triangle, the Houston Voice, The Austin Chronicle, The Dallas >Voice, Ambush, and whatever else we can track down. We'll also make sure to >contact radio stations that gay people listen to, like KGSR and KLBJ and Mix >94.7, and get them to make sure they play your music less during the >dayparts in which they have gay and lesbian listeners, thus making it less >likely that queers will come to your shows. I'm not sure how effective this >will be in keeping all those queer-acting people out of your shows, but I >think it should work pretty well, since most of these people, like me, think >it is "VERY IMPORTANT ...to NOT be stereotyped, pidgeonholed, or >categorized" as someone who should be forced to hide who they are so as not >to project "negative" associations on the people they are standing next to >at a club. In fact, most of the people who see this will never come to your >shows or buy your albums or say anything nice about you to anyone again once >they see the bigoted and insulting e-mail you sent out to your "fans and >friends." > > And, you're right, it would suck for you to have the success of Melissa > Etheridge. What the hell were we thinking? - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: womenfriends-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Our listserv site is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/womenfriends/ and has more information. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:48:58 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc Have never heard of the woman and now will most certainly never hear any of her music as this info turned my stomach. I will make it a point to write her a "fan" letter. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:47:26 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest]I little Joni hit NJC Chuck writes: << what comes on the radio but the Van Ronk version of Midway! >> Don't tell Jimmy! He HATES Dave van Ronk! I liked him a lot though, and saw him a few times in the 70's. I was saddened to hear that he died recently. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:31:36 -0700 From: "Lori in MD" Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc Here's an article about this: http://www.txtriangle.com/archive/1046/vp3.htm I'd never heard of her, either. After the hoopla fades, she probably will too. Mack wrote: > Have never heard of the woman and now will most certainly > never hear any of her music as this info turned my stomach. > I will make it a point to write her a "fan" letter. ~ I'm participating in the 2003 Mardi Gras AIDS Marathon! Pledges received so far: $650 -- 25% of my fundraising goal! More info at http://lrfye.lunarpages.com ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:42:30 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc Well, that explains a lot. She is from Texas, land of the homophobe. mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori in MD" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc > Here's an article about this: > http://www.txtriangle.com/archive/1046/vp3.htm > > I'd never heard of her, either. After the hoopla fades, she probably > will too. > > Mack wrote: > > > Have never heard of the woman and now will most certainly > > never hear any of her music as this info turned my stomach. > > I will make it a point to write her a "fan" letter. > > > ~ > I'm participating in the 2003 Mardi Gras AIDS Marathon! > Pledges received so far: $650 -- 25% of my fundraising goal! > More info at http://lrfye.lunarpages.com > ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 10:41:54 -0700 From: "Lori in MD" Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc Mack wrote: > Well, that explains a lot. She is from Texas, land > of the homophobe. Actually, Mayfield was born in Atlanta ... but don't let me get started ... Lori the Yankee : ) ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:18:43 +0100 From: "Amelio Alamo" Subject: Re: HEY ALL!!! Hi Kev, Yeah, me too! It was just in my CD rack for ages and then I played it again one night and it totally got through to me. I love the title track, such nice guitar sounds. STEVE >From: Cactustree78@aol.com >Reply-To: Cactustree78@aol.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: HEY ALL!!! >Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 01:25:03 -0400 > >I've been into Joni for a while now but have for some strange reason have >never listened to Turbulent Indigo all the way through(whattan oversight) I >am totally blown away and i have to share this with you cause i know you >understand..Im so glad the JMDL is here ive met some really cool people and >ive only just begun(like Karen heehee) thanx again to Harry for the info >and everyone whos been so nice to a newcomer and I would also like to say >welcome to the other JMDL newbies so..........Peace Love Happiness and all >general good things to you >all********************kev*********************** _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:55:28 -0700 (PDT) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc First off, yes, I'm posting WAY too much all of a sudden. I'm just filling in for Bob. BobM. No, not that BobM, the other one. They're apparently out back duking it out... But on to more serious stuff... The Michelle Mayfield sounds like a winner. Has anyone considered bringing rotten fruit and vegetables to her performances to show their appreciation of her ahem talent? Say Michelle, how do you like them apples? I think we can remove the question mark from the subject line. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:17:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc LOL! talk about putting a fire out with GASOLINE!!!! silly silly girl. i don't know who the hell she is, but i don't wanna know now! by the way, i keep meaning to post about jonifest...i'm working on it....we really missed you anne! love, alison e. in slc still buried under piles and stacks of work to catch up on... - --- anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > > The Michelle Mayfield sounds like a > winner. Has anyone considered bringing > rotten fruit and vegetables to her performances to > show > their appreciation of her ahem talent? Say Michelle, > how do you like them apples? > > I think we can remove the question mark from the > subject line. > > lots of love > Anne Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 14:42:43 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc >First off, yes, I'm posting WAY too much all of a >sudden. I'm just filling in for Bob. BobM. No, not that >BobM, the other one. They're apparently out back duking >it out... And doing a fine job.. I might add. (Bob, listening to steve klink as I type this....came in the mail only a short time ago. Very nice! ) >rotten fruit and vegetables to her performances to show >their appreciation of her ahem talent? Say Michelle, >how do you like them apples? Dodging donuts here....I'm not so sure she is a homophobe or just a plain wimp. She is dishonest to say the least. With herself maybe and with the public most definitely?!! I'm going to reread the article again....still weighing the evidence..... Bree, getting ready do dodge the rain.... fierce storm approaching >I think we can remove the question mark from the >subject line. > >lots of love >Anne _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:8:38 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc Has anyone considered bringing > rotten fruit and vegetables to her performances to show > their appreciation of her ahem talent? People used to bring fruits and vegetables to the Mothers of Invention shows regularly to throw though I don't think it was out of anger or spite. > I think we can remove the question mark from the > subject line. > I'm not so certain she is homophobic though she could very well be. Definately shallow and self-absorbed and in my opinion incredibly stupid. Victor, back home again finally - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 15:10:42 -0700 From: "Lori in MD" Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc > Dodging donuts here....I'm not so sure she is a homophobe > or just a plain wimp. Regardless of your sexual orientation, if you make comments like Mayfield's, you may or may not be a wimp, but you are definitely a homophobe. Period. Lori ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:19:55 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc Greetings to you all...and right on to you Lori!!! As far as Mayfield is concerned she must be drinking from the same well Shrub does. More later...and a Fest update...Katherine and I have been working on the front porch...after tearing it off...and now the turret is next. Can you hear the saws? This work is still cleaner than the law. LOL Love and Peace...Sharon Lori in MD wrote: > > Regardless of your sexual orientation, if you make comments like > Mayfield's, you may or may not be a wimp, but you are definitely a > homophobe. Period. > > Lori > > ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:23:33 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc I wonder what we would say if she said this about all Black patrons? Would you say " I'm not so certain she is racist though she could very well be. Definitely shallow and self-absorbed and in my opinion incredibly stupid." Just a question, sweet Victor. :) Love and Peace...Sharon Victor Johnson wrote: > > I'm not so certain she is homophobic though she could very well be. > Definately shallow and self-absorbed and in my opinion incredibly stupid. > > Victor, back home again finally ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:35:10 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Coupla things i'd love to hear about it...my friend Carey Colvin performed at this one & i meant to let you all know but i was busy getting ready for the jonifest & forgot... btw, guess what i've been working on since we got home?...my 2nd annual santa barbara songwriters tribute to joni mitchell...we have a stellar lineup this year & the place was PACKED last year...so if any of you socal folks are thinking of coming the info is on my website...the date is november 7th (her birthday) >>I've been meaning to ask...Tim Spong or anyone else, did you attend the JM tribute in Vienna Va about two weeks ago? Just wondering if anybody made it and how it was.<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:33:09 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Coupla things **my 2nd annual santa barbara songwriters tribute to joni mitchell...we have a stellar lineup this year & the place was PACKED last year...so if any of you socal folks are thinking of coming the info is on my website...the date is november 7th (her birthday)** This sounds great, and good luck! I also think it's cool that Jeff is involved with the Waits trib show. Let us know the lineup when you get it squared away... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:04:21 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: JM tribute in Vienna, Va. NJC **Among those I heard and saw were Roger McGuinn, Richard Thompson, Susan Werner, Shemekia Copeland, The Flatlanders and Tracy Grammer and Friends, the latter being Pete and Maura Kennedy, whose performing name is "The Kennedys."** Well, at least a couple of performers who have covered Joni! ;~) Sounds like a good show, except for the Flatlanders...my buddy at work wanted me to go see them locally, but I hated their record. Guess I just don't care for Jimmie Dale Gilmore's voice. Anyway, glad to know you're getting out there in circulation Dude! :~) Bob NP: Cornelius, "Tone Twilight Zone" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:35:42 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Coupla things Fantastic Kate!! Maybe with my new, NORMAL hours work life I will be able to come up this year! ;-) Kakki > btw, guess what i've been working on since we got home?...my 2nd annual > santa barbara songwriters tribute to joni mitchell...we have a stellar > lineup this year & the place was PACKED last year...so if any of you socal > folks are thinking of coming the info is on my website...the date is > november 7th (her birthday) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:10:21 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: Coupla things could this constitute a west coast jonifest????? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "kakki" To: "Kate Bennett" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 6:35 PM Subject: Re: Coupla things > Fantastic Kate!! > > Maybe with my new, NORMAL hours work life I will be able to come up this > year! ;-) > > Kakki > > > btw, guess what i've been working on since we got home?...my 2nd annual > > santa barbara songwriters tribute to joni mitchell...we have a stellar > > lineup this year & the place was PACKED last year...so if any of you socal > > folks are thinking of coming the info is on my website...the date is > > november 7th (her birthday) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:29:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Michelle Mayfield-homophobic? njc - --- Lori in MD wrote: > > Dodging donuts here....I'm not so sure she is a homophobe > > or just a plain wimp. > > Regardless of your sexual orientation, if you make comments like > Mayfield's, you may or may not be a wimp, but you are definitely a > homophobe. Period. I agree with you Lori, it is very clear how she feels. Mags, not impressed with Mayfield's diatribe at all! > > ~ ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:51:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Coupla things NJC - --- Mark or Travis wrote: > ><< CONGRATULATIONS to Mags & Brei! I have met Brian and know what a > sweet man he is. Although I haven't met Mags (yet), I feel that I > know her and it seems that the two of you must have been made for > each other. May you be blessed and know all happiness in your life > together. You deserve it!>>> Mark, I need to gush a little bit here in the open and honour you for being such a good friend to us, so kind when the waters were particularly rough this past year. It's late and I just had to write back to your note and say what a sweet, sweet man you are. I feel that we have stood face to face on the same ground in another life, or something. I know we have a connection that surpasses my knowing we havent met *yet*. Your kindness and compassion and understanding for life has always struck a chord in me. You know you are so very special to us both, and we missed you terribly at Fest this year. with love and gratitude for your support and helping us get to *here*, this wonderful place where at last , we are. love you friend, MagsnBrei xoxoxox > ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:36:02 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Coupla things Gene asked: > could this constitute a west coast jonifest????? A mini, absolutely! Come on down! Kate's review of last year sounded pretty awesome. Kate, are you having my favorite musician in the world there this time? Or so you want me to ask him? ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:56:26 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Jonifest 2002 - long, sorry! I guess it's finally time to write my Jonifest report, jet-lagged as I am (it's funny how 5pm feels like midnight)! Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) I didn't keep a diary this year, so I have to rely on my increasingly failing memory. I'll try not to make stuff up..... Again the question arises whether or not to make this NJC, but maybe it might entice a few more people to sign up for next year! I arrived in the US (Milwaukee) a few days before the fest, after experiencing a 24-hour delay earlier in the year - I didn't want to risk missing our flights to Albany! Kerry and I left for the airport in Milwaukee at around 5am on Friday 23rd for a 6.40am flight to Chicago (with Susan Guzzi seated just behind us for the next leg to Albany). It's fair to say we weren't terribly alert until reaching the Albany baggage area, when Donna "Texas Tush" Binkley managed to terrify a few Yankees with screams of greeting! That woke us up! We jumped in a rental car and headed for Full Moon, with 497 pieces of luggage between us. We had a couple of stops along the way for directions/food/alcohol (several stops for the latter). Good old Charlie in Albany (of Charlie's Ice Cream Van) directed us with frantic hand signals for at least 200 metres - honestly, we would have gotten lost on that straight piece of road without him ;o) Mind you, there were three of the infamous "Boston Babes" in the car, so maybe his intuition that we needed "special help" wasn't so far off the mark! We arrived at Full Moon around 4pm to be greeting in style by fellow fest-goers clutching cold beers - a sight to soothe the soul (mine, anyway)! Registration followed and an introductory talk by Ashara with the presentation of "the dingo". So much for my thinking that the dingo jokes had run their course - Ashara had managed to buy a stuffed dingo via someone in Australia (remind me to "thank" him in person when I find out who was responsible) to present to me. Serves me right for making fun of her, I suppose! Seriously, it was a very nice gesture, and I submit humbly, and will endure the dingo jokes forever more - albeit with a slightly strained smile! And thanks for the t-shirt and the mouse pad - completely unexpected (unnecessary even), but I love them! I should add that Full Moon is one of the most gorgeous places around. Completely secluded, it's surrounded by wooded hills. No traffic noise, no neighbours to upset (just as well, in view of later events), and a completely natural, rustic (but incredibly well-appointed) facility. If anyone is hesitant about coming next year, do it just for the resort - it's worth it even without the music (yes, I really said that)! Perhaps the only thing missing (something mentioned by several different people) was the absence of the round table from Ashara's deck! A larger outdoor conversation area would be a great improvement, and I thought at times we might have "fisticuffs" over who got to sit in those very comfortable chairs - not nearly enough to go around! Dinner followed, then it was up to the Performance Space for the first official performances. I say "official". You don't have to go far at a Jonifest to hear people playing music. Just follow Victor around, and you get 24-hour accompaniment! I have to say something about the food. All the vegetables are grown organically on the site and every meal was incredible. Great variety, and I don't think anyone had any complaints. I particularly liked the "New Zealand Sweet Potato Chowder" listed on the menu in the lobby! Although I have to say, I don't think they were the genuine article ;o)! I said this last year, but the performances seem to get better and better at every Jonifest. Friday night's performances were wonderful. If I list all my favourites, you'll still be reading this on the way to the airport for next year's fest, so I'm not going to single anyone out (maybe later)! After the performances, we had a wee get-together at the now infamous Lesbian Cottage, where Susan aka "Ethel" Guzzi gave us a sneak preview of what was to become the Merman Trio! Giselle played guitar (superbly) and we had a good, old sing-along until Henry told us off for making too much noise! So we shifted around to the back of the cottage, where presumably we'd only be keeping the bears awake. We headed to bed around 3am, mindful of three more days of this insanity! Although I think that was the earliest night we had! Saturday was rainy and not too warm, unfortunately, so was spent milling around indoors, and even a nap featured (I must be getting old)! At 7pm it was back up to the Performance Space for a beer or two before the next round of performances. I'd list my favourites here too, except I'd be listing everyone! Honestly, this was amazing - everyone just blew me away. But a big special thank you to Marian for taking my words and turning them into something so much more special - maybe we can do it again some time?! Sunday followed the same format as Saturday, except that Kerry and I managed to "do a Joni" and miss Woodstock! We'd intended on going, but due to an inability to make up our minds when we wanted to go, we managed to turn down all the offers we had of a ride! Maybe next year? At least I hope it won't take as long as Joni to get there (30 years)! We also participated in an unscheduled workshop, The JMDL Dating Club Support Group. Ironically we'd joked about this before Jonifest - I never thought it would happen for real! For those who don't know, the outcome was that we've all changed partners, and I'm marrying Bob Murphy, as soon as he gets that "Ethel" thing under control. I'm not holding my breath..... The performances on Sunday were just as impressive as previous nights. Again, I'd be listing everyone if I singled out my favourites, but I hope everyone that played this year, will be permanent fixtures in the future! Les Ross made the comment that you could pay hundreds of dollars to attend a music festival, and still not see the quality of musicians that we witnessed over these three days, and I definitely agree. It makes me wish I could play something, and much to Kerry's dismay I've expressed an interest in learning the trumpet (she mentioned the word "mute" quite a lot - I wonder why?). Mark Isham eat your heart out, I say! Monday was a little depressing, saying goodbye to everyone, but we travelled with Ed, Jimmy and Bob Muller to Albany, so we got to prolong the final goodbyes for a few more hours! We had a great chat with Bob in Albany after Jimmy and Ed had headed off, and met up with Susan again for the flight to Chicago. United (in their wisdom) had decided to cancel our final flight to Milwaukee, but since our flight from Albany to Chicago arrived early, we managed to snag two seats on an earlier flight, and arrived home three hours earlier than expected, and our luggage even made it, too! Susan, sorry our goodbye at O'Hare was so brief, I was looking forward to another chat, but we only just made it, so it was just as well we raced off when we did! Then it was back to Milwaukee and another week with my beloved before heading back down under. Which is cold, wet, dreary and most definitely NOT where I want to be! Hey Les, doesn't the JMDL need a full-time ColdFusion Developer to work on the website? I could start tomorrow?! Boy, if dreams came true..... I'll close by mentioning a few of the funnier and/or special moments I witnessed (in no particular order): Anne's pre-recorded opening song on Friday night - the perfect start to the weekend, although it would have been more perfect to have you there in person. Particular performances that stand out: Sherelle, Bryan, Marian, Claudia, Kay, Bob Muller, Gisele, Jack, and definitely a whole lot more that my travel-weary mind has forgotten for the moment! Claudia performing Conversation at my request (still my favourite Claud - you're going to have to sing it every year, you realise that, don't you?!) Heading out alone to the deck at the Performance Space for a quiet, comtemplative cigarette, gazing at the stars, and hearing the strains of Ethel Merman (in triplicate) coming through the dark and the pinewood trees.... the serenity did NOT last, particularly as I was doubled over with laughter! Seeing the video of the "Blair Witch Ethel Merman Project" - lighting by Henry. Be afraid, be very afraid! Seeing Ashara (and Maggie) relaxing, and really enjoying everything without the stresses of previous years. Bob Murphy standing at the bar as I walked up, and with a lascivious wink, asking "So..... you want a green card?" Spending 4 days not just with the nicest people in the world, but spending them with Kerry. Particularly appropriate considering the reason we found each other in the first place! Now if I could just spend EVERY day with you! I'll echo my sentiments from last year. If you've ever entertained the smallest idea of going to Jonifest, start making plans now. You just can't have a bad time! Hell - pretty sad down here all by myself! ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 12:52:34 +0700 From: Angela.Takats@reuters.com Subject: sjc hippy music in Thailand WOW, Thanks to all those listers who offered me a warm welcome...it's nice to be back! And it's lovely to know that some of you used to enjoy my posts. I was very envious to read about the latest jonifest, but the good thing about possibly moving to Canada is that I am a step closer to where these wonderful events are staged...YAY. (Didn't think there was much hope in putting in a bid for a fest to be staged in Bangkok;-) Much to my surprise, the music scene is wonderful in Thailand. I used to get so frustrated in Sydney because it was near impossible to find people who appreciated music from the 'woodstock era'...and while my friends listened to the latest trashy pop - i used to sit at home playing joni records and longing to find someone who at least knew who she was/is (then I found the JMDL...yay). The music records left by soldiers during the Vietnam war have had a huge impact on south east Asia - and mean that many people have a love of music from that era - infact it's the only western music they know. So it has been here in Thailand that I have received my musical education - the love of joni still carries on - but now, from hanging out with local musicians - my eyes have been opened to Bonnie Raitt, the Allman Brothers Band, Joplin, Grateful Dead, Jackson Browne....and the list goes on. Basically music that most 24 year olds living in Sydney would not be exposed to... For some reason it is music from this generation that talks to me...still don't know how/why because my parents never listened to music when I was young - they don't even know who joni mitchell is (dad just calls her the singer that sounds sad;-) As you guys know from this list - there's something magical about music that can bring people from different countries/cultures together and make them bond in a deep way. The deepest connections I have made with Thai people are not through work, but through the music scene...meeting people who 'get it' and then getting to know them and their country. Work has been good too.... I mean, I get to cover the most insane stories here...I am talking elephant weddings/buffalo funerals/democracy rallies/hanging out with buddhist monks here and there. And the thing that I love most about Asia is one always feels alive (especially on the back of a motorbike whizzing through Bangkok traffic!) But there is always a downside - and that has to be the loneliness.... it's hard to find a western man who wants a western woman when he can have a dozen pretty Thai women to pamper him day and night. And the Thai men tend to take on more than one girlfriend at a time (I was a 'minor wife' for a while - not much fun I can tell you) Anyway - that's for those of you who are interested in what this little old/new lister has been up to the past few years. I better get back to work....thanks for reading Ange in Bangkok - ------------------------------------------------------------- --- Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #347 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)