From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #343 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, August 31 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 343 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- West Coast Joni- fest possibilities (njc, I guess) ["Darice(darice@mindsp] [none] ["Barbara L" ] Re: West Coast Joni- fest possibilities (njc, I guess) ["kakki" ] Patti W - Long, but worth every word (SJC) [Claud9 ] laughing it all away [" Jack Neilson"] Re: [NortheastJonifest] RE: Jonifest 2003 Workshops and fest memories NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Jonifest 2003 Workshops NJC [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:29:46 -0400 From: "Darice(darice@mindspring.com)" Subject: West Coast Joni- fest possibilities (njc, I guess) Kakki, Paz and others, I think the Russian River area would be great, and I have thought about the Konocti Harbor Resort on Clearlake. Besides being near me and Randy, Konocti has affordable rooms and family apartments, the lake and boats, a spa, swimming pools and a bar and restaurants, AND PRIVATE meeting rooms for rent, as well as the 1100 seat indoor showroom and 5000 seat outdoor concert stage. Yes appeared on the outside stage recently; Paz,did you hear anything about the venue from your friend? Add the Sonoma and Napa wine country, the Mendocino coast, and San Francisco.... Darice ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 01:07:09 +0000 From: "Barbara L" Subject: [none] Council President Barbara Littlefeather here. Not only did they screw up and go after the wrong house-- a big yellow VW bus (with historic PA plates) took away my old man!!!! Damn those joni heads! _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:01:20 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: West Coast Joni- fest possibilities (njc, I guess) Darice wrote: > Besides being near me and Randy, Konocti has affordable rooms and family > apartments, the lake and boats, a spa, swimming pools and a bar and > restaurants, AND PRIVATE meeting rooms for rent, It sounds like a dream but do they let people sing, booze, scream and dance for 72 hours straight?? Any noise or other assorted local ordinances there? ;-) > as well as the 1100 seat indoor showroom and 5000 seat outdoor concert stage. Dang Darice, I love how you *always* think BIG! Maybe for the Interplanetary Jonifest 2018? LOL Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:59:00 -0400 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: joni's creative borrowing Caught part of a movie Wednesday evening on HBO called Songcatcher that featured appalachan songs. Some of the lyrics were very close to these from The Silky Veils of Ardor: Come all you fair and tender school girls Take warning now--when you court young men They are like the stars On a summers morning They sparkle up the night Then they're gone again Daybreak--gone again Wish I would have thought to write them down, but I really wasn't sitting watching, the tube was just on, if you know what I mean. So, has anyone else made this connection? Roseanne Cash sings the song on the soundtrack. Sue n.p. Neil Diamond on The Last Waltz ___________________________________________________ Communicate with others using Lycos Mail for FREE! http://mail.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 23:59:55 -0400 From: Claud9 Subject: Patti W - Long, but worth every word (SJC) This is John (no Uncle for once) from behind Claudia's computer ... OK, I'm supposed to be writing the Jonifest report, but I want to get this out of my system first. I heard Patti Witten perform at the Jonifest. I had heard OF Patti Witten before. Her CDs were very favourably reviewed in the Dutch magazine, Heaven. She got four stars out of five from someone whose opinion I highly trust (Jo and I wrote the review for Joni's Both Sides Now together - It's on the JMDL website). I translated the review for Patti when we met on the list. The translation is at the bottom of this message. Yes, Patti Witten is a JMDL member. And four out of five stars sucks. Because Land of Souvenirs is five stars. Full stop. It is mesmerizing, poetic (very poetic), warm, mysterious, deep, lyrically blessed and musically spell-binding at times. It's extremely well pproduced. It blows me away. And Prairie Doll is beautiful, too. Now, how do I put this. We all like Joni. Many of us like Shawn Colvin, Sara McLachlan, Jonatha Brooke, Lucinda Williams. We are talking this level. Patti is up there, with them. And not because she is a list member. The albums are great by any singer/songwriter standard. I would have raved about Land of Souvenirs just as much, had the office in the Netherlands sent the CD to me instead of to my colleague, Jo. Does she play Joni songs on the CD? No. Just go to one of her concerts and ask her to play Hejira. She did so at the Jonifest at the Full Moon and hit me straight in the heart. She plays her own songs on both CDs and they are of stunningly high quality. And so is the instrumentation and the overall sound production. Am I on commission? No. I just want everyone to know what exceptional talent we have among us. And I want EVERYONE to buy the CD(s). Anywhere. Pester your local record shop for all I care, go to Patti's website, www.pattiwitten.com (and listen), buy it at CDBaby, I don't care ... anyone who is so talented deserves great sales! Am I over the top here? Perhaps. All I know is that Claud and I have been playing both CDs almost incessantly over the past few days and that they grew with every playing. PATTI, THIS IS HEART-TOUCHING STUFF !! From midnight Baltimore (hit by Dutch weather) John van Tiel o-o-o-o-o Appendix: The review in the Dutch Indie magazine, Heaven (May 2002): Patty Witten LAND OF SOUVENIRS **** Private Issue Patty Witten & Prairie Doll PRAIRIE DOLL ***1/2 Potentfolk Records BEAUTIFUL AND TIMELESS Heaven is not showing its most up-to-date side with this review: LAND OF SOUVENIRS already appeared in 1999, the mini CD PRAIRIE DOLL one year later. Neither of the albums were released in the Netherlands, however. Now that we have discovered9 her, we may conclude that we are dealing with a major talent here. Witten appears to be a more than excellent singer-songwriter who deserves attention. LAND OF SOUVENIRS contains twelve class songs of the kind that sound as if they have always been around. It is dangerous to draw comparisons, but if you can imagine a cross between Joni Mitchell (in the days of BLUE) and Lucinda Williams, you will get a good idea of Witten9s music. We should immediately add, however, that this American woman has enough character of her own to justify her own musical existence. The overall sound is determined by acoustic and electric guitars, along with Witten9s somewhat thin but nevertheless beautiful voice. The clear, poppy production provides a nice finish. The only point of criticism I might have is the lack of variation both in tempo (mid-tempo or slow) and in atmosphere (relaxed, melancholic). This same positive and slightly negative criticism also applies to the mini album, PRAIRIE DOLL, that she recorded with her band of the same name. The six songs on this album are, again, strong compositions dominated by guitars and vocals. Witten9s country music influences emerge slightly stronger here, but this intermezzo (?) is basically a continuation of LAND OF SOUVENIRS. This kind of music is in no way innovative, it is just plain beautiful and timeless. Apparently, Witten is working on a new album that is to appear this year. Keep an eye on this lady. Jo Didderen (Source: Heaven 4-3, May/June 2002, The Netherlands/Belgium) Star Rating Heaven Magazine * mediocre ** reasonable *** good, recommended to people who like the genre **** very good, recommended ***** outstanding, a classic PS. Oh, and Patti ... Get yourself another designer for the cover of your next CD. It's probably the only thing of Land of Souvenirs that I do not like. And get that next one out quick. Can't wait. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:29:38 -0700 From: " Jack Neilson" Subject: laughing it all away first time posting in a while..I had to give some words of jonifest this year that I was lucky enough to experience..As Paz's official lost child out of another lifetime, I was able to have a weekend of wonder and smiles and goosebumps....Just read the Reuters article on the list and haven't stopped laughing out loud yet.... Thank you ashara who I finally got to meet... My retention is SO not happening,that I can't begin to name all the people who caused goosebumnps the entire weekend. I am thinking of one episode now..Stephanie on a white piano, and Christina singing Blue on a little porch room.Wander in the house thinking its a CD playin somehwere.I sat down to hear them with goosebumps abound..Only at Jonifest do these little moments happen regularly... I am haunted by Jenny's voice so beautifully-- I'm still laughing about The ethal mermans of Kay and Smurf who I finally got to meet.....allison,Kay, and julius for the road trip laughs.......marion's tunings to sing by..maura as cutest with sister..... washing hands with anti-bacterial soap with water not supposed to be touched without boiling.(I'm still trying to digest the irony)Guess I'll stop here for now..Good night everybody--thanks for being there and lighting up a long weekend for me to always know.... Jack ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 00:56:01 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] RE: Jonifest 2003 Workshops and fest memories NJC Amen to that sister. I remember at Ashara's place one year, Patrick joined me at the piano for an hour of Sarah McLachlan songs +++ And Julius is ready to bloom as well. We did Cherokee Louise at Kakki's one time with Clark and he stood out there like a ruby in a black mans ear. Paz on 8/30/02 9:57 AM, Jenny Goodspeed at jrgoodspeed@yahoo.com wrote: > Patrick, I'm glad I contributed to your enjoyment of > jonifest as much as you contributed to mine! > > Personally, I think you and Julius need your own sets > next year. These guys can sing! > > Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 00:56:16 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Another lasting JoniFest impression (now NJC I guess) the only mountains I saw were on Kay's chest and they kept getting standing ovations.. Paz(from New Orleans where it is Southern Decadence weekend) on 8/29/02 9:01 PM, murphycopy@aol.com at murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Bob Muller writes: > > << So now you know it wasn't all decadence! :~) >> > > There were mountains? > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 00:56:24 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Jonifest 2003 Workshops NJC Jenny This was really clever and I laughed out loud today at wirk when I read it the first time. It is hard getting back to the grind and so much to do. My best to you. Michael on 8/29/02 3:00 PM, Jenny Goodspeed at jrgoodspeed@yahoo.com wrote: > There's a steady much-needed rain here in the East today and I'm listening to > Bruce with a capital C (the only Bruce for me). I don't know if it's the > rain, but the glow I felt from this past weekend is slowly fading into a > wistful sort of melancholy. And that's no good, so in a lame attempt to cheer > myself up, I have come up with a list of potential workshops for Jonifest > 2003. Feel free to add your own. > > > > 1. The Three Great Stimulants > > How to find the perfect balance of caffeine, alcohol, and (insert substance of > your choice) to make it through Jonifest with little or no sleep and still not > feel like shit. > > > > 2. Lesson in Survival > > Research shows that, on average, Jonifesters are more likely to experience > extreme performance anxiety, whether performing on stage, in a song circle, or > alone in their rooms. Learn to control the trembling hands and unintended > vibratos that keep you from performing at your best. > > > > 3. I Don't Know Where I Stand > > Navigating the topsy-turvy world of the Jonifest dating scene. Tactics for > finding your perfect Jonifest mate if you are unsure of either your own or > anyone else's sexual orientation. > > > > 4. How Do You Stop > > After Jonifest ...do you find yourself smiling at or offering hugs to > strangers that pass you on the street or at the office? ...do you have > auditory hallucinations, which are manifested as snippets of Joni Mitchell, > James Taylor, or Grateful Dead songs? ...are you spending more time than > usual checking your email for the latest JMDL messages? You may be suffering > from post-Jonifest stress syndrome. Learn what steps you can take to prevent > this rare (but not all that troublesome) disorder. > > > > 5. Song for Sharon > > A method for learning and memorizing the lyrics and the order of verses to > Joni's longest songs (e.g., Hejira, Song for Sharon, The Sire of Sorrow, > Yvette in English) . Never again suffer the embarrassment of stumbling over > lyrics or drawing a blank at the next sing along or song circle. > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:06:27 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Camp Wavy Joni Russian River would be a bit easier to get to from the south. Konocti could work, too. Then there's Esalen (Big Sur-historic Joni site) or good ol' San Fran..... kakki wrote: > Randy, > > I checked out the website and it gets ten stars for location but the teepees > (or "tipis") are the only accomodation! I know there are many big houses > you can rent along gorgeous stretches of the Russian River up that way. > Many of the Cal group (both Norte and Del Sur) have been talking ideas for a > west coast fest forever. Maybe we should stop being so laid back and > finally start putting it together! ;-) Kakki > > > It would probably be camping out in teepees. > > It's 4 hours from SF airport. > > May not be cheap; 2 weeks of kid camp is $1200. > > If there is really interest, I can look into it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 01:12:17 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Jonifest 2003 Workshops NJC get the fuck outta here! Really? on 8/30/02 5:29 PM, Alison E at alisone4@yahoo.com wrote: > 6. Talk to Me > > ...Dirty! Alison will lead this workshop on how to get > the most out of the worst words in the English (or any > other) language. From f*ck to duck, we'll discuss all > the important foulmouthed bits in Joni songs, > including "pissing a tequila anaconda" to "kiss my > ass, i said". As an added bonus, we'll discuss why > so-called "clean" substitutes for real bad words > (feck, heck, darn, dangit, crap, etc) should be once > and for all banned from the planet. > Co-hosted by Claudia. who swore once, she swears! > > --- Jenny Goodspeed wrote: >> I have come up with a list of potential >> workshops for Jonifest 2003. Feel free to add your >> own. > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 01:16:21 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: West Coast Joni- fest possibilities (njc, I guess) I haven't spoken to Jeff for a few days but I will hear from him soon as we are trying to get a multitrack recording gig going on the next leg of the Yes tour in Oct. It sounds like a dreamy place but maybe a little large. Paz P.S. I have a possible gig in SF on the 14th of Sept. Stay tuned for a possible mini fest. on 8/30/02 7:29 PM, Darice(darice@mindspring.com) at darice@mindspring.com wrote: > Kakki, Paz and others, > I think the Russian River area would be great, and > I have thought about the Konocti Harbor Resort on > Clearlake. > Besides being near me and Randy, Konocti has affordable rooms and family > apartments, the lake and boats, a spa, swimming pools and a bar and > restaurants, AND PRIVATE meeting rooms for rent, as well as the 1100 seat > indoor showroom and 5000 seat outdoor concert stage. > Yes appeared on the outside stage recently; Paz,did you hear anything about > the venue from your friend? > Add the Sonoma and Napa wine country, the Mendocino coast, and San > Francisco.... > > Darice ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:18:13 -0700 From: B Subject: Ryan Adams/Music In High Places (njc) Imagine my surprise....a reason to watch MTV! There's a show on right now on the west coast called Music in High Places. Ryan is performing some tunes (acoustic....he just played solo guitar and sang smack in the middle of the market at Port Antonio with a straw hat on) and indulging in the culinary and visual delights of Jamaica. MTV hasn't done anything this cool since.....hmmm.....the first few unplugged shows maybe. B np: ryan talking about playing outside in North Carolina forgive any typos and what not...the holiday weekend is here and the party has begun...but just had to let you guys know : ) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #343 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)