From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #315 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, August 8 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 315 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: New Nash album and tour (JC related) ["kakki" ] Today's Library Links: August 7 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Today in History: August 7 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Re: World map of members ["Marian Russell " ] Jonilisters mixing with OTHERS NJC ["brian symes" ] Fwd: i used to be wallyK njc [anne@sandstrom.com] RE: UK Jonifest - The Truth! (long) ["Chris Marshall" ] Re: Joni Time-Line & NY Times article now njc ["Kate Bennett" ] New Nash album and tour (JC related) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: NY Times article NJC [Denny Giovanetti ] Re: World map of members [FMYFL@aol.com] RE: World map of members ["patrick leader" ] UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) ["Chris Marshall" ] Re: Joni!! ["mack watson-bush" ] oops! njc ["mack watson-bush" ] RE: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) ["Chris Marshall" ] RE: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) [Catherine McKay ] RE: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: World map of members [Les Irvin ] Who are the Mermen? NJC [John Low ] Re: World map of members [Rick and Susan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:12:39 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: New Nash album and tour (JC related) Ha! O.K. I've just listened to it three times again to try to 'splain myself. I only meant it as the highest of compliments to both Paul and Graham. The song actually sounds remarkably like it came straight from Lennon-McCartney somewhere around the late 60s. That alone could be as good as it gets. But now it's being sung by someone who I think is probably the nicest, sweetest man ever in rock. *That's* what makes it even "better." ;-) Kakki > It was great to read your positive review of the album "Songs for > Survivors". But really Kakki, you surely realize that *this* statement was > an oxymoron. Right? > > >>>>> > [Graham Nash'es] "Where Loves Lies Tonight" is like listening > to a McCartney love song but better. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:13:16 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today's Library Links: August 7 On August 7 the following item was published: 1979: "Back Pages" - Circus Weekly (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790807cw.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:13:16 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today in History: August 7 1994: Joni reappears onstage on the last day of the Edmonton Folk Festival to sing one song with a group named Quartet. More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Edmonton94.html - ----- For the most complete reference to Joni's appearances, consult the Joni Mitchell Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 03:32:45 -0400 From: "Marian Russell " Subject: Re: World map of members On Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 23:38:49 -0600 Les Irvin wrote: > Some time ago, someone mentioned that it > would be nice to have a world map of where > everyone lived. I've found a free piece of > software that seems to do just that. That map thing is really cool, Les! When I first started putting in my entry, only Les was on the map, and when I finished, there was Brian Symes and Hell! I love it!!! Marian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:42:31 -0500 From: "brian symes" Subject: Jonilisters mixing with OTHERS NJC Hello I am back from a week at a summer camp for 150 9-12 year old kids. It has its own website at www.camprosenbaum.org . At 6'4" and having easy light bulb changing arms my camp name is "Ladder". Now that we are on this subject of NonJoni people and its social intercourse, Back in July I was lucky to have Dinner in Portsmouth N.H. with Ashara It was in the High 90's F with a dew point up in the 70's Tropical heat melts Coastal Oregonians. I had to bring the Wife a most non musical person. This meeting created minor uncertain feelings in the wife, she still has no comprehension of how deep and how long Joni's open chords have been planted in my soul. Ashara you were looking very Beautiful and was very understanding when talking to the wife. If I could spend more time with you I would become one yourlamp bearers watching your dancing and playing the sacred music of the earth goddess Gaia. Dear Ashara I can only pray for a 2003 Jonifest meeting. With a smiling thankfullness Brian - -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Get 4 DVDs for $.49 cents! plus shipping & processing. Click to join. http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/990-1736-3566-59 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 07:04:56 -0700 (PDT) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Fwd: i used to be wallyK njc Hi everyone. Apparently I'm one of the few who got Wally's message. (Did anyone else get it?) I suspect that many mail servers have some kind of filter that wouldn't accept the message? So, here's Wally's message! lots of love Anne - ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: "Wally Kairuz" Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 04:23:25 -0300 Subject: i used to be wallyK njc To: , back online! back at work! back among you!!!!! oodles of news to tell you all. but that will have to wait until tomorrow. and yes, i'm getting married in december. do you want to hear about it? still too thrilled for words. positively shrieking with delight, my little ones!!!!! back later with the scoop and 44of wallyK made it44. love, the boy with gossamer wings and a bear paw. - ------- End of forwarded message ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:01:56 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: UK Jonifest - The Truth! (long) Kakki wrote:- > Chris must be the the king of Jonifest across the > pond - the parties always sound so incredible. Queen, dear, queen. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:00:51 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: UK jonifest - where to post the piccies Martin, Send them to me, and I'll put them on my web site. Rgds, - --Chris Chris Marshall Secure Systems Integration Ltd Web: http://www.secure-si.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0) 7970 459 553 Fax: +44 (0) 1954 201 741 E-mail: chris@secure-si.co.uk Pager: ssimobile@dial.pipex.com (short message only) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:59:54 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Test NJC Hi everyone, just a test here. Excuse the bandwidth. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:30:27 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Joni Time-Line & NY Times article now njc debra wrote >Wow, use 'em and toss 'em. Such a cruel business.< yes, more than ever it seems...here is an ironic twist to the whole crazy biz that is so youth oriented (joke is soon they'll be signing fetuses): a friend of mine (in his 50's) was recently dropped from the major label where he has been for all of his career...for decades... at the same time, this label just signed ralph stanley, 70 something years old! at least he can take solace that he wasn't replaced by a younger artist! ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 19:10:18 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Fwd: i used to be wallyK njc I got it first time. I think maybe something is up becasue Steve Polifka complained of no messages when plenty came thru. anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > Hi everyone. > > Apparently I'm one of the few who got Wally's message. > (Did anyone else get it?) I suspect that many mail > servers have some kind of filter that wouldn't accept > the message? > > So, here's Wally's message! > > lots of love > Anne > > ------- Start of forwarded message ------- > > From: "Wally Kairuz" > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 04:23:25 -0300 > Subject: i used to be wallyK njc > To: , > > back online! back at work! back among you!!!!! > oodles of news to tell you all. but that will have to > wait until tomorrow. > and yes, i'm getting married in december. do you want > to hear about it? > still too thrilled for words. positively shrieking with > delight, my little > ones!!!!! > back later with the scoop and 44of wallyK made it44. > love, > the boy with gossamer wings and a bear paw. > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80,Creation 6 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:45:51 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: New Nash album and tour (JC related) thanks for the review of grahm's new record kakki! i can't wait to hear it & took a listen at doug's song "ill be there for you" (graham wrote the bridge) at amazon (a trip to hear graham singing it...i used to sing harmonies on this song when doug was first performing it a few years ago... & here's a joni reference from his bio at artemis records: "As the three were harmonizing in Joni Mitchell's living room on the track that would become "You Don't Have To Cry," Nash's future shifted course. He remembers that, "The minute I heard how our voices sounded together, I was physically and musically linked with David and Stephen from then on. It was a truly magical moment." http://www.artemisrecords.com/nash_bio.aspx?abbr=nas ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:43:11 -0500 From: "brian symes" Subject: Joni as Galadriel Since my head has had joni's voice in it since the 60's, which is also when I read thru the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings. I will admit to a private fantasy of Joni inhabiting Galadriel's position, when I read about the Queen of the Elves for the first time and in every reincarnation of it on the stage or screen I always see Joni's straight blonde hair, high cheek bones, and lovely eyes. Boy am I hopeless jonihead. Brian - -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Get 4 DVDs for $.49 cents! plus shipping & processing. Click to join. http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/990-1736-3566-59 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:51:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Denny Giovanetti Subject: Re: NY Times article NJC - --- "Kate Bennett" wrote: >a friend of mine (in his 50's) was recently dropped from the major label >where he has been for all of his career...for decades... > >at the same time, this label just signed ralph stanley, 70 something years >old! > >at least he can take solace that he wasn't replaced by a younger artist! But a calculated move, given the success of "O Brother. . ." and all of the media coverage, etc. Had it not been for the timing, it's unlikely Ralph Stanley, great as he is, would've been given a passing nod. Or am I getting cynical? (At least Bluegrass is getting some deserved attention--Nickel Creek featured on CBS' "Sunday Morning," and other recordings showing up in what can otherwise be laughingly called "country" music playlists.) Denny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Denny Giovanetti Subject: 440 guitarists--but where's Mitchell? . . .Or, save one, any female guitarist? The Times of London ran an article (excerpt, w/Joni content, below) on Total Guitar mag's Top guitarists. 440 were nominated by readers, of which only Tracy Chapman made the list; but failed to make the Top 100. Full article at www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,343-376208,00.html *** August 06, 2002 Women excluded from Top 100 guitarists by adam sherwin, media reporter Women are excluded from the pantheon of rock guitar heroes, a new poll has discovered. Jimi Hendrix was voted the number one guitar "god" but not a single female artist made the Total Guitar Top 100. Thousands of magazine readers and some well-known guitarists voted in the poll, which produced a total of 440 nominations. They could have chosen some of rock's most influential women, ranging from Joni Mitchell to Chrissie Hynde. A poll for Q magazine last year voted the West Country singer/guitarist PJ Harvey the most influential female rock and pop artist of all time. But the only woman nominated in the entire 440 by Total Guitar readers was Tracy Chapman, the American contemporary folk singer. Scott Rowley, the Total Guitar editor, admitted his overwhelmingly male readers valued technical prowess above other forms of musical achievement. He said: "I don't know if it's a bad thing. Women just aren't as geeky or competitive about it as guys. Instead of showing off, they're trying to write a good song. Which is probably smarter." Mr Rowley added: "There are some great female guitarists - Bonnie Raitt and Joni Mitchell spring to mind, or session players like Jennifer Batten or Carol Kaye who played on a thousand hits from the 60s and 70s, from La Bamba to Surfin' USA." *** Of course, I realize that such things are subjective--and tend to be redundant, reflecting the state of mind of the person casting the vote. The complete absence of any female guitarists from the 100 is. . .well, words fail me. Also, no sign of Stephen Stills--Neil Young came in at 82nd. And Richard Thompson polled at 93! Denny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:55:43 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: NY Times article NJC >But a calculated move, given the success of "O Brother. . ." and all of the media coverage, etc. Had it not been for the timing, it's unlikely Ralph Stanley, great as he is, would've been given a passing nod.< absolutely...oh, you are asking me if you are cynical? ha, hell no! i don't think anything the labels do is uncalculated! ralph would have never had been signed had it not been for the oh brother phenomena (however that in itself was pretty cool cuz i don't think anyone expected it to be so successful)... ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:02:54 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: World map of members In a message dated 8/7/02 1:39:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ljirvin@adelphia.net writes: > Click on the "World Map of Members" link on the left panel (under "Member > Sections") at any page on the JMDL site to give it a test drive Les, this new map is great! It's starting to fill up. It makes me want to sing "I'd Like To Buy The World A Coke" :~) Thanks for all you do Les! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:37:46 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: World map of members well, i'm a complete dumbsh*t. i seem to have placed myself in the ocean off long island. i'd like to edit my own message, too. is it possible? patricko np - agassi stomping corma on espn >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Les >Irvin >Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:39 AM >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: World map of members > > >Joniphiles - >Some time ago, someone mentioned that it would be nice to have a world map >of where everyone lived. I've found a free piece of software that >seems to >do just that. > >Click on the "World Map of Members" link on the left panel (under "Member >Sections") at any page on the JMDL site to give it a test drive. It seems >to be almost ad-free as well... too good to be true? :-) > >Les >http://www.jmdl.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 01:59:32 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) Pictures, yes. Rude comments, certainly. :) I'll shortly have what pictures I have up in a web photo album for all to see. Hopefully, I should have it sorted by sometime tomorrow. I'll set it up under http://www.hatstand.org and post a proper link when I have it all done and dusted. Regards, - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 18:22:03 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Joni!! Just wanted to share.. am listening to Joni tonight....all piano.....wow....what a high I'm on...no..no illegals....no hard stuff...just Joni and me.....feeling down.....endorphins release or something magical happens...forces me to smile.... better than any therapy..... Thanks...JMDL.... Bree Everything comes and goes marked my lovers and styles of clothes....down to you....it's down to you..... _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 21:03:25 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Joni!! Thank you Bree for being just Bree. "making friends for all the world to see. Let the people know you got what you need. With a friend at hand, you will see the light. With your friends at hand, everything's alright." Mack NP-Elton John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 21:04:41 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: oops! njc Sorry. njc. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 02:58:46 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) OK, so I fixed it all up tonight. What photos there are so far, are here:- http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=jonifest200 2 If you can't get in that way, just try http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/ although this latter one won't work for ever more. When more people have photos ready to upload, I'll given them upload access to this area. Ashara, Colin, Garret, take note. :) - --Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On > Behalf Of Chris Marshall > Sent: 08 August 2002 02:00 > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) > > > Pictures, yes. Rude comments, certainly. :) > > I'll shortly have what pictures I have up in a web photo > album for all to see. Hopefully, I should have it sorted > by sometime tomorrow. > > I'll set it up under http://www.hatstand.org and post a > proper link when I have it all done and dusted. > > Regards, > > --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 21:28:38 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) Thanks for the pics Chris. Nice to put faces to the names. What is that beautiful blue plant in the last photo? Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:58:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: World map of members - --- patrick leader wrote: > well, i'm a complete dumbsh*t. i seem to have > placed myself in the ocean > off long island. i'd like to edit my own message, > too. > > is it possible? > I was able to delete mine, reset it, then start over. I kept gettingn cross-eyed trying to figure out where the Toronto really is on Lake Ontario. It occurred to me that it might be possible for anyone to delete or edit anyone else's entry (how did the thing know it was me editing my own thing?) I didn't try doing it to anyone else's, of course, but I was able to change mine. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 23:05:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) - --- Chris Marshall wrote: > OK, so I fixed it all up tonight. > > What photos there are so far, are here:- > > http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=jonifest200 Chris! Amazing photos! Colin looks nothing the way I imagined. Lieve has Joni-Mitchell cheekbones. Is that wisteria in your garden? ______________________________________________________________________ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 00:18:57 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) no, dahling, sheer hysteria. w - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Catherine McKay Enviado el: Jueves, 08 de Agosto de 2002 12:06 a.m. Para: Chris Marshall; joni@smoe.org; AsharaJM@aol.com; colin@tantra-apso.com; sprout@eircom.net Asunto: RE: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) Is that wisteria in your garden? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 20:35:38 -0700 (PDT) From: hell Subject: JMDL World Map - NJC Catherine - how did you edit/delete your entry? Hell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 20:46:07 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) >Chris! Amazing photos! Colin looks nothing the way I >imagined. Lieve has Joni-Mitchell cheekbones. Is >that wisteria in your garden? Colin looks young!! Like a kid!! I thought that was Joni for a minute glancing at her checkbook! The plant caught my eye too. Great pictures! Bree ______________________________________________________________________ >Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 20:55:39 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: World map of members < me editing my own thing?) I didn't try doing it to >anyone else's, of course, but I was able to change mine. But it did cross your mind...maybe moving someone a few states over...or out in the middle of the Pacific maybe?? HUH?? ;-) I did notice that when i use the icons...half or some of the people aren't there. Now...when I go with the balls everyone is there that is supposed to be. Bree....slow night > >______________________________________________________________________ >Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 22:26:51 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: RE: World map of members At 8/7/2002 08:58 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: >It occurred to >me that it might be possible for anyone to delete or >edit anyone else's entry (how did the thing know it >was me editing my own thing?) Actually not. It sets a cookie on your computer so that it know who you are, then it only allows a person to delete their own entry. Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:29:21 -0700 (PDT) From: John Low Subject: Who are the Mermen? NJC On a disc I recently received as part of a trade there were some instrumental tracks by an unknown (to me) band called the Mermen used as filler. They were pretty damn good and I'd love to know who these blokes were/are. All my trade partner could tell me was that they were from San Francisco. Can anyone help me? Cheers, John (in Sydney). HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 23:13:22 -0700 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: World map of members The key to getting a good placement for your dot (or icon) is to position the base of the flagpole over your location. You can move it around as often as you want before you hit submit. Rick ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #315 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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