From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #301 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, July 26 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 301 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: July 25 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Re: Laura Nyro's Biography [Engwall57@aol.com] Re: Julia in Chicago (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Hear Gregg Cagno Live! njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Attn Sandy Denny fans - njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Gregg Cagno Live NJC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] a HELL-uva great birthday wish [Murphycopy@aol.com] July 25rd :~) (NJC) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: the evils of conformity NJC [Relayer211@aol.com] Is Joni "in her own world"? [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Is Joni "in her own world"? [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Julia in Chicago (NJC) ["kakki" ] Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish (njc) [FMYFL@aol.com] Fwd: TV guide from near future [jan gyn ] near future tv guide (njc) [jan gyn ] Re: TV guide from near future [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish [Alison E ] Fwd: Ox Marching Powder (njc) [jan gyn ] Re: Windfall/Everything for Nothing [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish (njc) [Mags N Brei ] NRH and especially TGR ["patrick leader" ] cocteau lyrics was RE: DJRD and NRH and especially TGR, some memories - njc ["patrick leader" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:01:00 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today's Library Links: July 25 On July 25 the following item was published: 1969: "Joni Mitchell Sings Songs of City in Central Park" - New York Times (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/690725nyt.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:46:53 EDT From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: Re: Laura Nyro's Biography Thanks for the reading suggestion. I remember when I was about 13, and my older sister came home from college with New York Tenderberry and Blue. I loved Captain for Dark Mornings and My Old Man without reservation. I am sure the neighbors heard me singing those songs to death in the shower. Regards, Ruth in Richmond ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:11:43 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Julia in Chicago (NJC) Susan, Thanks for sharing such a GREAT story. I'm glad that Julia Fordham is such a warm, down to earth person. Maybe I can catch the JMDL fever for this singer. I bought her debut album "Julia Fordham" back in 1988, and it did nothing for me. I gave this CD another good listen last year (at the insistence of ex-lister Don Rowe), and still I didn't like her voice that much. Maybe "Concrete Love" is a lot different. Maybe it's just me. Anyway, it sounds like she's a wonderful person. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:25:06 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Hear Gregg Cagno Live! njc Dunno if you know, but Gregg will be at the John F Kennedy Performing Arts Center tomorrow night. If you can't make it, u can hear it LIVE! Fri Jul 26, 2002, 6:00pm (EST) The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts Millenium Stage, Washington DC on July 26, 6pm. Live webcast at: part of their "writer's night" series. Also doing a set is Amelia K. Spicer (http://www.ameliaspicer.com) Hope you can tune in! ~rose NP: more juice ;)The E Street Shuffle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:28:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Attn Sandy Denny fans - njc I don't recall this site being mentioned here before but, if you are a fan of Sandy Denny, I just discovered an amazing website: http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/sandy.denny/ This site has tons of info on Sandy, lyrics and chords or tabs for most, if not all, of her songs; pictures and more - she even has a daylily named after her. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:37:15 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Gregg Cagno Live NJC http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/millennium/ Ooops try again... dunno why the link didn't paste?? thanks Cindy ~Rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:17:10 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: a HELL-uva great birthday wish When it's Thursday in the US of A, Europe, and most of the world, it's already Friday in New Zealand. (How do they do that?) And guess what -- a little kookaburra told me it's Hell's birthday! So if you're waiting to wish our beloved Helen a happy birthday tomorrow, that will be too late because she's actually celebrating right now! So join me in wishing Hell the best of birthdays and then Jonifesters can get ready to wish her a happy birthday in person because she is once again headed to Jonifest! Who knew Hell could be so sweet! Happy birthday! XO, --Bob, the birthday gnome (Under BF Wally and DBF Jimmy!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:47:42 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: July 25rd :~) (NJC) HAPPY H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y Susan Guzzi!!!!!!! ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:42:29 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish In a message dated 7/25/02 12:17:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Murphycopy@aol.com writes: > When it's Thursday in the US of A, Europe, and most of the world, it's > already Friday in New Zealand. (How do they do that?) > > And guess what -- a little kookaburra told me it's Hell's birthday! So if > you're waiting to wish our beloved Helen a happy birthday tomorrow, that > will > be too late because she's actually celebrating right now! > H A P P Y BIRTHDAY HELL!!! hugs, rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:40:38 -0400 From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: the evils of conformity NJC In a message dated Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:36:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, cvickery@danielrealty.com writes: > > thought of you when i saw this, Jim. hope all's well at work.... > > If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get > yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an > opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity > stays > down for good. I like that quote!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:45:35 -0400 From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Is Joni "in her own world"? A few years ago I went to see Joni sing in CT with my mom.My mom's a fan of hers(That's how I was exposed to her wonderful music.I grew up hearing "miles of isles".)At the concert,my mom didn't like Joni's voice and found her to be out of touch and in her "own world".something,I myself,can relate too.Do others see Joni the same way? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:56:12 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Is Joni "in her own world"? Relayer writes: << my mom didn't like Joni's voice and found her to be out of touch and in her "own world".something,I myself,can relate too.Do others see Joni the same way? >> Actually, I think we're all in Joni's world! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:19:00 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Julia in Chicago (NJC) Susan, Thanks for the great review of Julia! Her down to earth and naturally engaging (and hilarious) personality is that something extra that, to me, puts her in the upper echelon of greatness. She is a comet. Jimmy wrote: > Thanks for sharing such a GREAT story. I'm glad that Julia Fordham is such a > warm, down to earth person. Maybe I can catch the JMDL fever for this > singer. I bought her debut album "Julia Fordham" back in 1988, and it did > nothing for me. I gave this CD another good listen last year (at the > insistence of ex-lister Don Rowe), and still I didn't like her voice that > much. Maybe "Concrete Love" is a lot different. Maybe it's just me. I've heard the same reaction from others and I think maybe you just have to see her live to really be knocked out. Her albums don't completely convey her real "white light" of talent. And fantastic HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Kerry, Susan and Hell - that dynamic trio ushering in the Leo month. Raising a glass and a roar for you! ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:04:44 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish (njc) Smurphy, the brithday gnome (who's a bit of a dag) wrote: <> Crikey Dick, Bob! Well, blow me down! Forgive me, but I'm two sammies short of a picnic today. Anyway, it *is* Hell's birthday, but she's still asleep. It's still a sparrow fart in New Zealand right now, so when you wake up Hell, H A P P Y H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y!!!!! I can't wait to see you next month at Jonifest, so rattle your dags and pack your bags. You'll have plenty of time to give your ferret a run before the big bun-fight. :~) so Bob's your uncle (that means "there ya go"), cheerio, xoxo Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:28:10 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Fwd: TV guide from near future http://www.theonion.com/onion3826/on_tv_tonight_3826.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:32:40 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: near future tv guide (njc) http://www.theonion.com/onion3826/on_tv_tonight_3826.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:40:31 -0400 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: TV guide from near future I usually don't think the Onion is very good, but this is laugh-out-loud funny. I especially liked "The Joan Osbornes" on VH1, "Up Wit' Yer Kippers" on PBS, and "Black Weather Report" on BET. - --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:52:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish HAPPY SWEETIE BIRTHDAY DARLING! i hope it's great, and i can't wait to buy you a dingo, i mean drink! in new york. love, alison e. npimh: bob muller following you around ashara's house and constantly repeating in that great drunken aussie accent he tried to do..."a dingo ate my baby!" LMAO! - --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: --Bob, the birthday gnome (Under BF Wally and > DBF Jimmy!) Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:26:24 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Fwd: Ox Marching Powder (njc) >from Billboard.com > >Entwistle Had Cocaine In System > >The Who's John Entwistle had cocaine in his system at the time of his June >27 death in Las Vegas, and the cause of death has been ruled an accident by >the Clark County (Nev.) Coroner's Office, Billboard.com has learned. The >consumption of cocaine exacerbated a pre-existing condition known as >ischemic heart disease, which restricts the flow of blood. Death occurred >due to "lethal drug effect in setting of significant natural disease," >according to the coroner. > >Entwistle, 57, was taking medication for a heart condition and died in his >hotel room just hours before the Who was to kick off its North American >summer tour. As previously reported, the first two shows were postponed but >the trek continued on with replacement bassist Pino Palladino. The Who plays >Mansfield, Mass., tomorrow (July 26). > >A band spokesperson could not be reached for comment at deadline. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:46:35 -0400 From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: Windfall/Everything for Nothing > ><< the only clunker is Windfall, which seems lyrically vindictive >> > > >Yeah, what's with that? This may be my least favorite Joni song of all time. > >I am also always playing the guessing game when I hear it > . . . Is it about > >Klien? Obe of her cats? That poor Guatemalan maid? I read an interview with Joni right around the time NRH was released (I have it on file somewhere). The song (which may be hard to appreciate unless you happen to know what it's about) is about Joni's housekeeper, who at some time in the 80s sued Joni, claiming Joni had promised her more money but never delivered. Joni said, in the interview, "she cat-and-moused me," meaning the housekeeper had set her up. That's all I remember. I don't know how the case turned out. I really like the song because it's got a great, funky groove. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:24:22 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish HAPPY BIRTHDAY HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love, mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:41:57 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: a HELL-uva great birthday wish (njc) From Jonifest to NEC to lots of EC. It's been quite a year! Happy Birthday to my wonderful BP in a faraway land!!!!! Cheers, Kerry (If Jimmy can be cryptic, so can I!) Crikey Dick, Bob! Well, blow me down! Forgive me, but I'm two sammies short of a picnic today. Anyway, it *is* Hell's birthday, but she's still asleep. It's still a sparrow fart in New Zealand right now, so when you wake up Hell, H A P P Y H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y!!!!! I can't wait to see you next month at Jonifest, so rattle your dags and pack your bags. You'll have plenty of time to give your ferret a run before the big bun-fight. :~) so Bob's your uncle (that means "there ya go"), cheerio, xoxo Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:21:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: a HELL-uva great birthday wish (njc) jimmy darling... were you visiting Wendy's when you wrote this ??? rofl good on ya mate ;-) see you soooooooooon. no more nights!!!!!!!!! aggghhhhhhh. the jersey goil okay okay so we're still in N.C. but not for long... woohooooooo! np: the sound of honey boi's sweet voice yay - --- FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Smurphy, the brithday gnome (who's a bit of a dag) wrote: > > < So if > you're waiting to wish our beloved Helen a happy birthday tomorrow, > that will > be too late because she's actually celebrating right now! >> > > Crikey Dick, Bob! Well, blow me down! > Forgive me, but I'm two sammies short of a picnic today. > Anyway, it *is* Hell's birthday, but she's still asleep. It's still > a > sparrow fart in New Zealand right now, so when you wake up Hell, > > H A P P Y H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y!!!!! > > I can't wait to see you next month at Jonifest, so rattle your dags > and pack > your bags. You'll have plenty of time to give your ferret a run > before the > big bun-fight. :~) > > so Bob's your uncle (that means "there ya go"), > cheerio, > xoxo > Jimmy ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:35:53 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: wall to wall joni in nyc hey folks: i attended a show with a guy who is a producer at new york city's 'symphony space' venue on the upper west side. it's a nice 800 seat theater that does a lot of innovative programming, and has just been renovated. once a year they do a marathon music show with lots of great performers called wall-to-wall... this year it was wall-to-wall-richard-rodgers, of course. it's in the spring, march or so. well he let it slip that next year it's going to be wall-to-wall-joni-mitchell. this is 12 hours of people covering joni mitchell, folks. my producer friend says there's one particular person in their org who's a complete joni freak, so she's taking the major responsibility. i'm going to ask him to have her give me a call. pretty damn cool... patrick np - night ride home, inspired by recent discussions ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:56:20 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: NRH and especially TGR night ride home is probably my third favorite album of joni's, out of all of them. just think it works more consistently than a lot of others that have brighter individual moments. i don't think anyone has said yet, two gray >[someone, I'm sure, can fill in the blanks of my memory here -- I can't >remember the author, and whether it was a short story or a memoire] turned >Joni on to a story about a man who longs after a boy, and then discovers >years later than the same guy, now an old man, discovers that the >same object >of his affections, now a man himself, jogs the same route every >day -- so he >rents those two grey rooms for the *sole* purpose of watching the >younger man >jog pass every day -- 'cept not on weekends. don't remember who introduced joni to it, but it was a short story by werner fassbinder, the controversial german filmmaker (querelle was my particular favorite) no one mentioned 'slouching toward bethlehem' based on the amazing eliot poem. a truly amazing song. Up until recently, I thought >the song was another along the lines of "Come In...", "Nothing Can >Be Done", >"Only Joy" and "Ray's Dad's Cadillac", all of which touch or dwell on the >theme of lost youth. In spite of this recurring theme, I still think the >album has a happy feel to it, which Chris related to viscerally -- ><, he could force happy >ones into >Joni songs. :-) > i think night ride home is a very positive album, without being compromised by it. it was the last album made by joni and klein while completely in love. it's the peak of their collaboration as artists. chris wasn't imagining it, he was feeding from it and i hope you will continue to. as i do. patrick - np - slouching ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:58:24 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: cocteau lyrics was RE: DJRD and NRH and especially TGR, some memories - njc dear walt: i don't post a lot, but i love your posts, and i deeply appreciate you sharing the more bittersweet memories. you wrote: >picking CDs to play, and I remember Cocteau Twins' Heaven Or Las Vegas was >one of my choices (Chris would crack me up trying to force logical lyrics >into the Twins' stream-of-consciousness phrases), when i was first into cocteau twins, i knew friends like that who would swear it all made sense, and would force it if it didn't. i didn't need that from the band, i loved and love the sound and concept and fraser's voice with all my heart. still, a couple of years later i found this site on a random search: http://www.alwaysontherun.net/cocteau.htm and there are others out there. it's amazing. some of the guesses are just crazy, but other times, you read along and you go "oh my god, this might be actually what she's saying!" and then the songs do make a sort of wacky sense. enjoy. patrick np - come in from the cold ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:55:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Julia in Chicago (NJC) Hi Kakki! I'm glad you enjoyed it. The best part of doing a little review is, it helps me remember more and makes the whole spirit of the affair that much more touching. Kakki wrote: > > Thanks for the great review of Julia! Her down to earth and naturally > engaging (and hilarious) personality is that something extra that, to me, > puts her in the upper echelon of greatness. She is a comet. > > Jimmy wrote: > > > Thanks for sharing such a GREAT story. I'm glad that Julia Fordham is > such a > > warm, down to earth person. Maybe I can catch the JMDL fever for this > > singer. I bought her debut album "Julia Fordham" back in 1988, and it did > > nothing for me. I gave this CD another good listen last year (at the > > insistence of ex-lister Don Rowe), and still I didn't like her voice that > > much. Maybe "Concrete Love" is a lot different. Maybe it's just me. > > I've heard the same reaction from others and I think maybe you just have to > see her live to really be knocked out. Her albums don't completely convey > her real "white light" of talent. Exactly, Kakki! I myself felt the same way. But had I not seen live I am not sure I could have or would have "gotten" her. The jury is still out as to whether her portfolio of work and song writing quite catapults her to my big 3 or 5. But she has definitely made a big push. Kakki wrote: > And fantastic HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Kerry, Susan and Hell - that dynamic trio > ushering in the Leo month. Raising a glass and a roar for you! ;-) Thanks - I'll be raising one for you & with you VERY SOON! Peace, Susan Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #301 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?