From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #296 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, July 22 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 296 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in History: July 21 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Dolly does Zeppelin, njc [Jim LHommedieu ] dolly parton/ladysmith black mambazo NJC ["flopit" ] ANNOUNCEMENT: UK Jonifest 2002 ["Chris Marshall" ] RE: [FM] Dave Carter Tribute at Falcon Ridge (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Jimmy B as "Willy"? (sjc) [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: sex and the city njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Vanilla Fudge Live! njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] parrots vs. crows (sjc) [Murphycopy@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 03:11:04 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today in History: July 21 1973: Joni performs in Kona, Hawaii 1990: The concert "Roger Water's The Wall : Live In Berlin" was held today and included guest singers and musicians such as Sinead O'Connor, Van Morrison, Cyndi Lauper, Bryan Adams, Paul Carrack of Mike and the Mechanics, the Band, the Scorpions, etc. In the spring an invitation came from Roger Waters to join him in a re-staging of his epic "The Wall" at the site of the now torn down Berlin wall. Roger suggested a song to Joni that he wanted her to perform in the upcoming concert, but she told him she'd prefer to do a different one. He agreed and re-arranged the line-up of singers and songs to accommodate her. Joni also requested that she be sent a tape of the backing tracks so she could practice. Joni was joined onstage by flutist James Galway, performing with a pre-recorded backing track on the song "Goodbye, Blue Sky." She also re-appeared at the finale and sang a few solo lines for "The Tide Is Turning" clustered with Sinead O'Connor, Thomas Dolby and Bryan Adams at one side of an elevated platform. More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/TheWallBerlin90.html [Source: Wally's Bio Page, http://www.jonimitchell.com/jonihome.html#TheBio] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 06:06:35 -0400 From: Jim LHommedieu Subject: Dolly does Zeppelin, njc I heard this just last week and she really pulls it off! In her hands, it reads like an Olde Worlde folk song and it really fits the lyric well. The story is about a woman as well, so Ms. Parton brings a sisterhood-sympatico to it that really works. Any excuse to hear that voice. She really has it. How do we know that the lady who's sure all that glitters is gold DOESN'T have a coat of many colors? Lamadoo On Sunday, July 21, 2002, at 03:00 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > Actually, my husband had a chance to listen to Dolly's version of > "Stariway > to Heaven" the other day and really, really liked it. He is no fan of > hers, > so that was quite a compliment coming from him. I would be very > interested to > listen to it as well. Just thought I'd throw in on the subject. > > Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:25:41 -0700 From: "flopit" Subject: dolly parton/ladysmith black mambazo NJC hi >>>Jerry Notaro wrote: > Like her cover of Knockin' on Heaven's Door with South African a > cappella group Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Parton's risks here bring great, > unexpected pleasures. > New York magazine > July 15, 2002 >>>randy remote replied >>I don't know if it's Ladysmith, but the track is not a cappella, it's >>full rockin' reggae, and she really sings it. It's an unexpected >>combination but I thought it was cool. i for one think lots of respect is due to dolly. i always rated her a highly talented performer who sang a lot of cruddy music to make money. now shes getting older, and presumably made enough money shes starting to express herself a bit more. (tho i really do think her cover of "peace train" was, to say the least, woeful..) as far as ladysmith black mambazo are concerned, they are imho one of the greatest acapella groups in the world. im hoping to get to their 42nd anniversary concert in about 2 weeks time - theyve been around a while. ladysmith is the town in which they formed, black is fairly self explanatory, and mambazo is a type of spear traditionally used by the zulu nation. i was watching a interview with joseph shabalala, the founder of lmb recently. he was a normal musician, playing guitar, pennywhistle etc, & struggling to survive. then one night he had a dream in which he saw a choir singing in a strange language, in a strange style which he had never heard before. he woke up, put together a choir (mainly his brothers), taught them to sing as he heard in his dream, and the rest was history. lmb has long been the most successful group in soujth africa, selling millions of records, which is noo small accomplishment in such a small market. i also enjoyed shabalalas account of his meeting with paul simon. he says this small, shy polite man, who, believe it or not, hed never heard of, walked up to him, and said "Hi, im Paul Simon, maybe we can work together". Shabalala took one look at this man, saw him as being full of light and music, and said "we will work together!!" - the result was graceland.. ron np - carol laula - stay with me angel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:02:33 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: UK Jonifest 2002 Eeeek. I've just realised that the original mail about UK Jonifest 2002 (or "Old England Jonifest 2002" :) didn't go to the list as a whole, for a variety of reasons. With a scant two weeks to go, I'm rectifying that! So, if anyone in the UK was unaware of the impending get-together, and wants in on the deal, drop me an e-mail pronto! Dates: Friday 2nd August -> (sometime on) Sunday 4th. Ashara, queen of 'fests, will be gracing us with her presence on the 2nd, which gives us all reason to be cheerful and/or take the day off work. Location: Swavesey, Cambridgeshire. Halfway between Cambridge and Huntingdon. I need to know:- o When you'll be arriving Friday - late morning Friday - evening Saturday - late morning Saturday - late afternoon/evening (This helps me figure out how many I'm catering for at each mealtime.) o Dietary requirements o Whether you can find a place to stay (i.e. friends in the locality) or if you need numbers for local accomodation. Floor space has gone, I'm afraid. o Whether you want to get up and play some songs at some point. I propose to buy all of the food and *some* booze in advance, so plan to extort money from each of you on arrival. Probably without menaces though :) Once I know who's coming when, and for how long, I'll try and set a fair price. I hope that's OK, but I can't afford to pay for everything myself, and it all gets a bit disorganised when everyone's bringing food. Cheers! - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:7:8 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: RE: [FM] Dave Carter Tribute at Falcon Ridge (njc) > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 7/20/02 2:14:40 PM > Subject: [FM] Dave Carter Tribute at Falcon Ridge > > Dear Friends, > > Many of you have heard the very sad and tragic news of Dave Carter's untimely > death following a massive heart attack 2 days ago. Although the festivals > will certainly go on and still be as festive and wonderful as we can make > them, we know Dave would have wanted it that way, we will sorely miss him, > and Tracy as well. We can't begin to imagine the loss this is for her. We > have decided we will not replace Dave Carter & Tracy Grammer on mainstage or > in any workshop set they planned to be in either. They are not replaceable as > far as we are concerned and it just seems that this is not the appropriate > thing to do. Instead, we are planning a tribute for their Sat night Mainstage > spot. That spot will feature the songs of Dave Carter as it was meant to be. > The set is on Main on Sat night 7:20 to 8:30P and will feature several FRFF > featured artists including Chris & Meredith Thompson, Nerissa & Katryna > Nields, Erin McKeown and others to be announced. Other artists will also > contribute Dave Carter songs to some of the workshops Dave & Tracy would have > done. Dave Carter's songs will go on as planned in those spots. The loss of > Dave Carter to this community is a tragedy beyond words. He was one of the > most gifted songwriters ever in this world, Anne > > Anne Saunders > > Falcon Ridge Folk Festival > July 26, 27, 28, 2002 > Long Hill Farm, Hillsdale, NY > www.FalconRidgeFolk.com > ------------------ > Winterhawk 2000 and 2 - Bluegrass and Beyond > August 2, 3, 4, 2002 > Long Hill Farm, Hillsdale, NY > www.Winterhawk2000.com > > > _______________________________________________ > folkmusic mailing list > folkmusic@grassyhill.org > http://grassyhill.org/folkmusic - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:58:40 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Vanilla Fudge Live! njc Went to see Vanilla Fudge at the Pony last night. Do you remember these guys? Three of the original band members are still together. They did haunting psychedelic covers of "Eleanor Rigby" and "Keep Me Hanging On"! I just got a personal invite to be backstage for the Commerce Bank gig the end of this month. Rose turning groupie? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:19:16 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Jimmy B as "Willy"? (sjc) Hey, all Anyone else see the mention of JM in the TV Guide? Interview with Jimmy Buffet -- when asked who influenced his songwriting style, he said "Joni Mitchell". Well, that's one that escaped me. "Willy is my child He is my father Now he wants top run away ans hide in margaritaville looking for his lost shaker of salt..." Nah. But seriously, anybody know of their ever meeting? -- coulda happened, I guess. Hope all is well with everyone, and looking forward to the fest, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:37:03 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: sex and the city njc just watched the season premiere of "sex and the city" damn, damn, that is one fine production. mack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:47:02 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jimmy B as "Willy"? (sjc) Wonderful Walt writes: << Interview with Jimmy Buffet -- when asked who influenced his songwriting style, he said "Joni Mitchell". >> Yeah, and I suppose Jesus Christ taught him how to fish! I like Jimmy Buffet the person a lot more than I like Jimmy Buffet the performer, but I can't for the life of me see what Joni's influence could have been. Speaking of people who claim to have been influenced by Joni, last weekend on Saturday Night Live's Weekend Update segment, Tina Fay said something like, "Note to Alanis Morrisette: Not everything you write in your diary is song material." Ouch! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:22:01 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: sex and the city njc SO you really, really liked it?!! You know I have never seen it, maybe a snippet once. I will check it out now since you are a fan. Btw, Sarah Jessica Parker is from Cincinnati. Went to the prestigious..School For The Creative And Performing Arts. Later... Bree >just watched the season premiere of "sex and the city" > >damn, damn, that is one fine production. > >mack _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:30:25 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Vanilla Fudge Live! njc Lucky You!! Was Carmine Appice on drums? The last I heard about him he was drumming for Rod Stewart in his "hot legs" days. Bree >Went to see Vanilla Fudge at the Pony last night. Do you remember these >guys? >Three of the original band members are still together. They did haunting >psychedelic covers of "Eleanor Rigby" and "Keep Me Hanging On"! I just got >a >personal invite to be backstage for the Commerce Bank gig the end of this >month. >Rose >turning groupie? _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:49:36 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: sex and the city njc Darn right. The title is misleading. Didn't watch it myself for the first four years, even though have seen most of the episodes now in repeats, but once did so was hooked. Has humour, drama, poignancy, love, introspection, etc. So well written. So well directed. It makes me laugh, laugh, laugh, and cry. Makes me think, wish, long for, --- The entire cast is superb. Remember Sunshine from Little Darlings, the one that punched the icky girl and it was so surprising yet so wonderful? She is there and all grown up. Parker is outstanding to say the least. And Kim Cattrall. My goodness. mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bree Mcdonough" To: ; Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 11:22 PM Subject: Re: sex and the city njc > SO you really, really liked it?!! You know I have never seen it, maybe a > snippet once. I will check it out now since you are a fan. Btw, Sarah > Jessica Parker is from Cincinnati. Went to the prestigious..School For The > Creative And Performing Arts. > > Later... > > Bree > > >just watched the season premiere of "sex and the city" > > > >damn, damn, that is one fine production. > > > >mack > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:56:47 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Jimmy B as "Willy"? (sjc) >Wonderful Walt writes: > ><< Interview with Jimmy Buffet -- when asked who influenced his songwriting >style, he said "Joni Mitchell". >> > >Yeah, and I suppose Jesus Christ taught him how to fish! Only you could have come up with this! I love it! (smiling here) >I like Jimmy Buffet the person a lot more than I like Jimmy Buffet the >performer, but I can't for the life of me see what Joni's influence could >have been. I just forwarded yours and Walt's post to my best friend who is die-hard parrot head. She thinks Jimmy is a poet of all poets! I don't get it, but....I tried, she used to play me his stuff years ago...I found his stuff mundane, uninspiring....cliche-ridden.....tiresome....it put me to sleep. Oh well, we all can't love Joni. We used to do dueling vinyl's.. she'd play Mr..Parrot Head and I'd play Joan.....I say now listen to this....THIS IS A SONG!! Then she'd put a cut of his on to try to counter Joni. Needless to say....we ended up not converting each other. Bree... happy still that I "get" Joni. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:37:56 -0400 From: Jim LHommedieu Subject: Amelia thread Yeah, well the thing that has been impressing me lately is that by the time Hejira was released, everyone in North America had made up their individual mind about Joni Mitchell. To most, she was a 4-hit wonder, a has-been-hippie-chick-with-a-guitar who wasn't on the radio anymore. As Marcel once pointed out, it's flat-out amazing that the same mind that wrote "Nathan La Franeer" for guitar and voice, came up with "Amelia" for a jazz combo. I hope it inspires all of our songwriters, arrangers, and musicians. Meaning our JMDL songwriters, arrangers, and musicians. Oh, yeah, it should inspire our aspiring music critics too. (Ahem!) Lamadoo Victor was saying, >>>>>> Funny you mention Amelia...I played it last night at an open mic and it was an unreal experience...I can't think of any other song that comes close to it...it seems to really cross the line and become more than just a song, a transcending experience reaching into the very heart of life itself...the lyrics especially...Funny you mention Amelia...I played it last night at an open mic and it was an unreal experience...>>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:41:55 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: parrots vs. crows (sjc) Buckeye Bree writes: << my best friend who is die-hard parrot head >> Birds of a feather stick together, Bree. Better a crow head than a parrot head any day! Next time Joni tours -- and there *will* be a next time -- let's all get done up in black crow outfits! You know, sorta like Bjork's famous swan get-up. We could have tailgate parties in the paved parking lots of every venue she performs at, with pink champagne, Rhine wine, omelets and stews, goat dancing . . . << I found his stuff mundane, uninspiring....cliche-ridden.....tiresome....it put me to sleep >> Other than that, did you like it? ;-) I agree with you, Bree, although I think there is something likable about the guy. I read his autobiography a couple of years ago -- someone thought it would be a good birthday gift for me! -- and he has had an interesting life and career. I suppose his concerts could be fun, considering all the alcohol and whatnot that gets consumed . . . but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. XO, --Bob ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #296 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?