From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #280 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, July 9 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 280 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: July 8 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Today in History: July 8 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Step Right Up, Everyone's a winner, we've got bargains galore... [SCJoniG] Joni coming to Covent Garden? ["Paul Castle" ] France, NJC ["Laurent Olszer" ] NJC Re: Joni coming to Covent Garden? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Passion Play [Abbymusique@aol.com] Re: Subject: "Clouds" as a Coaster: A Cry for Inspiration [Lori in MD ] NJC Re: Joni and Lord Buckley [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] homeland security hoax, NJC [Emily Gray Tedrowe ] Meeting in Paris. [johnirving ] RE: homeland security hoax, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] "Asbury Park": Bravo, Rose! / "40-watt stars": Bravo, Jeff! NJC ["Jim L'] Re: "Asbury Park": Bravo, Rose! / "40-watt stars": Bravo, Jeff! NJC [Rose] Re: Asbury Park NJ, USA njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC Happy Birthday Leslie! and Vince! [Catherine McKay ] Re: Asbury Park NJ, USA njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] bombers in the sky NJC [Vince Lavieri ] RE: "Asbury Park": Bravo, Rose! / "40-watt stars": Bravo, Jeff! NJC ["Kat] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 03:07:31 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today's Library Links: July 8 On July 8 the following items were published: 2000: "Another side of Joni" - Vancouver Sun (Opinion) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000708vs.cfm 2001: "It's Only Rhyming Quatrains, but I Like It: Do Songs Succeed as Poetry" - New York Times Magazine (Appreciation) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/010708nytm.cfm - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 03:07:31 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today in History: July 8 1968: Joni performs tonight at the Bitter End in New York City. Also on the bill are Bunky & Jake and David Steinberg. [Source: New York Times; July 5, 1968] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 08:47:52 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Step Right Up, Everyone's a winner, we've got bargains galore... > My guess is: > > Dreamland, Don Juan's Reckless Daughter. Well, Marianne...for only the second time since I started this craziness, you have hit the guess right on the nose! Dreamland was indeed my song-of-the-month, so you're the winner of "Covers, Volume 31" along with another freebie. Awesome! Just let me know your address, and I'll do the rest. Thanks to everyone who guessed...there were pretty good vibes this time around as LOTS of folks picked songs off of DJRD. If you didn't win, but would like a copy of #31 (or any of the others) just let me know and I'll make sure you get 'covered' up. And stay tuned; plenty more where this one came from. ;~) Bob NP: Santana, "Black Magic Woman/Gypsy Queen" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:13:34 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Joni coming to Covent Garden? This might turn out to be just a false alarm but...... I had to share now...as I need your good wishes that all my dreams don't go up in smoke. As some may remember, until about 8 year ago I used to work as publications manager at the Transport Museum in Covent Garden and still play in their staff after-work-fun-and-good-therapy rock band (8 of us), appropriately named 'The Relics'. A while back we were asked if we would play at the 'In and Around Covent Garden' 10 Year Anniversary Party in October. The current Director of the Museum - - Samtheman - has just passed on an e-mail from the organizers of this special charity event. It says (and please keep your fingers crossed!)..... >>>>>>> > The event will take place on Friday 18th October at > The New Connaught Rooms. An informal reception > will take place with entertainment in The Balmoral > Room and Dinner will be served in The Grand Hall > at 19.45. A lounge suit dress code applies. > The entertainment will certainly be a Showcase of the > diverse talents which the area has to offer spanning the > decades to suit all tastes. It will vary from Magicians and > Street Entertainers to Faye Stringer's Clarinet Quartet, > Joni Mitchell and her Big Band, The Relics and > Tara Harman's 80's Band. > >>>>>>>> Gulp!!!!! PaulC PS I've just found Booking details at: http://www.coventgarden.uk.com/news.html but no confirmation of Joni yet - hold the front page til later. npimh -say a little prayer for me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:24:31 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: France, NJC > From: johnirving > Subject: Are there any JMDL members in France & Up for a visit. > Hi John, I'm in Paris, but leaving for vacation on 7/21. I don't recall seing your posts (normal since you're a lurker) so please tell me about you. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 09:29:03 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: Joni coming to Covent Garden? OK Paul, I'm crossing fingers, toes and eyes for you! Hopefully you'll get yourself back to the (covent) garden. :~) Bob NP: Santana, "Se A Cabo" 4/18/70 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:10:18 EDT From: Abbymusique@aol.com Subject: Re: Passion Play I agree with your interpretation, Rick. I myself have been to Oberammergau several times and found out about the Passion Play. That is why Joni's song here is one of my favorites by her, weaving the biblical story with the Passion Play itself. When she says, "Enter the multitudes...", that is like a stage direction, and the bright colors are in my mind costumes worn by the actors, like you said. As a Christian, I have really enjoyed her attempts at delving into the Bible, like for "Love (ICor. 13) and "Sire of Sorrows" because she doesn't follow the standard in writing a "Christian" song. She delves into human emotions and makes it real, something that alot of Christian songwriters are afraid to do for some reason. Abby www.authorsden.com/abbymparks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:27:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: Subject: "Clouds" as a Coaster: A Cry for Inspiration Marianne wrote, about Clouds: > I love it in so many ways. You mean you love it from both sides, now??? ; ) Lori ~ New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free & unlimited access ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:33:14 EDT From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: Re:Costello misquote hey mike ! i was a bit confused by your post, costello misquote was your subject but you didn't identify said misquote. i am taking for granted that you are referring to the error in the lyrics of ' shades of scarlet conquering.' instead of " cast iron in furs," the lyric is " cast iron and frail." is this the misquote you are referring to ? later... warren keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:14:52 EDT From: Fauchja@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni friends (Mark, Julia, Jorma, Jack) collborate (njc) just spent a weekend at Jorma's guitar camp, fur peace ranch, learning bluegrass flat picking. Jorma was touring, but his wife, Vanessa, took great care of us all. Wunnnderful experience. Fauchja ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 13:19:42 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Joni and Lord Buckley I've been reading a wonderful book entitled "Dig Infinity! the Life and Art of Lord Buckley", by Oliver Trager, published a couple of months ago. Lord Buckley (1906-1960) was a humorist, standup comic, and philosopher who used the jazz or jive venacular in his pieces, many of them hip re-readings of classic literature. His most famous piece is "The Naz", and he coined the phrase "Willie The Shake". This Joni reference appears on page 266: As evidence of the Ivar albums' resonance in the liturgy of the following generation of American minstelsy, Joni Mitchell references Buckley's tag of the Bard in her song "Talk To Me" from her 1977 album Don Juan's Reckless Daughter when she sings, "I stole that from Willie the Shake, you know/Neither a borrower or a lender be/Romeo, Romeo talk to me." (me again) The "Willie the Shake" phrase was also used by Ken Kesey in his novel "Sometimes A Great Notion", but Joni's exposure to Lord Buckley may very well have come from her relationship with James Taylor, who has stuck a few LB lines in his own songs, and says in the book: I was fifteen or sixteen when I first heard Lord Buckley's records. I was in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, and someone down at the university suggested I listen to him. I had a friend down there and we got into Lord Buckley and began quoting him... ...His pieces [take on] very important, meaningful stuff like Shake- speare and Christ, claiming it for a generation and expressing it in those terms.... Lord Buckley has influenced The Beatles-"make it Jude!" is from a LB routine- Dylan, who performed "Black Cross" early in his carreer (Jimmy Buffet has also recorded it), Robin Williams, The Firesign Theatre, Roseanne, and virtually every comedian. His buddies included Lenny Bruce, Jonathon Winters, and most of the 40's and 50's jazz musicians including Miles Davis. You can usually find his records on ebay. His only CD currently in print is "His Royal Hipness" (which does not contain "Willie The Shake"), available from Amazon, also they have short realaudio samples from this CD. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000003MT9/qid=1026157874/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-2021890-5118560 The book also comes with a CD featuring interviews and routines, including an unreleased rendition of "Willie The Shake" from an interview. "You know why they called him Willie The Shake? Because he.... ....SHOOK ever'body...they gave that cat five cents worth of paper and a nickel's worth of ink, he sat down and wrote up such a breeze, when he got through PPFFTT! ever'body got off! He was too tight a cat...." Sounds like someone else I can think of.... RR ps...isn't "neither a borrower nor a lender be" a Ben Franklin quote? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:33:13 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: Joni and Lord Buckley > ps...isn't "neither a borrower nor a lender be" a Ben > Franklin quote? If he was quoted as saying it, it's only because he had brushed up on his Shakespeare, as the origin is "Hamlet". Bob NP: Jill Scott, "One Is The Magic #" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 17:38:39 -0400 From: Emily Gray Tedrowe Subject: homeland security hoax, NJC hi jim, and all JMDLers-- re: >>>API) NEW YORK CITY- July 4, 2002 - - ------------ New York City police are investigating "the murder of 200,000 spectators at the Independence Day fireworks display". Lamadoo>>>>>> i debated not responding to this, but then i thought-- maybe i should. in all honesty, a joke like this (or perhaps it's sarcasm; black humor), sets my heart racing and brings tremors of anxiety to my body. i understand the total frustration about the vague "red alert" type things issued over the holiday by the FBI--and perhaps this is where the joke stems from? or maybe i'm missing the original prompt for this, and jim if you'd like to explain it to me, then i'd be glad. i may have missed an earlier post which would put it into context. however-- i'm speaking only for myself though--my experience in NYC on 9/11 is still raw, horrifying, and terrifying. i'm struggling with anxiety and panic attacks still, as well as grief over those i did lose, in front of my eyes, as i watched what happened from my apartment. maybe it's time that eased for me--it's partly why i'm here in chicago, after all! still, i wish i could read any kind of "homeland security hoax" joke without flinching, or shaking--but i cannot. yet. i just thought i'd offer that-- i'm sure there was no intent to cause me, or others, pain--and how could jim--or anyone!--know how i feel unless i attempt to put it into words, which is harder than i thought it would be. thanks for reading this--i'm sorry if it's confusing, ill-worded, or unnecessary. - -- emily ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 17:31:45 -0500 From: johnirving Subject: Meeting in Paris. Just a bit more info if anyone wants to hook up with Richard and me in Paris for a Joni get together... We (John Calimee/ Rich Rice) are staying at the Hotel Paris France, 72 rue de Turbigo, tel 011-33-1-42-78-00-04. Arriving on Saturday July 20th and leaving on the 24th. If you want to send me an email, use one of the following email addresses. They are more accessable for me when I'm away: CalsArtWorld@hotmail.com CalIrving@Yahoo.com Hope to meet more Joni Fans there. Somehow, I think it would be perfect to run into Ranger Rick there. Whaddaya say Rick? j. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:24:00 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: RE: homeland security hoax, NJC Hi Emily, Like a bonehead, I posted it out of sequence. It started with the premise that the military flying over America is a bad idea and that they are as likely to kill civilians as they are likely to kill terrorists. At 600 miles an hour, who can tell anything? I posted the first part to an invalid address. You're exactly right. You were reading it out of context. Within the context of an accidental military strafing, the rest of it serves to drive home the danger of putting military jets over a civilian (and peace-time!) population during a fireworks display. The hoax turned out to be a false alarm within a false alarm. Here in the midwest, it seems ripe for cynicism. Upon reflection I can see that on the coast, overflies of ANY kind are too raw and personal for a cynical parody and always will be. Sorry. Now that we've brought it out into the open, do Air Force jets over the City make you feel more safe or less safe? Jim > From: Emily Gray Tedrowe [mailto:ekg200@nyu.edu] >[edited] > i'm speaking only for myself though--my experience in NYC > on 9/11 is still raw, horrifying, and terrifying. i'm > struggling with anxiety and panic attacks still, as well as > grief over those i did lose, in front of my eyes, as i > watched what happened from my apartment. > > maybe it's time that eased for me--it's partly why i'm here in > chicago, after all! still, i wish i could read any kind > of "homeland security hoax" joke without flinching, or > shaking--but i cannot. yet. > > i just thought i'd offer that-- > > i'm sure there was no intent to cause me, or others, > pain--and how could jim--or anyone!--know how i feel > unless i attempt to put it into words, which is harder > than i thought it would be. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 01:42:57 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Joni coming to Covent Garden? (Not!!!) > OK Paul, I'm crossing fingers, toes and eyes for you! Thanks Bob, but you can un-cross everything now - turns out to be the biggest sodding typo in the world - the organizers came to our rehearsal tonight in the Museum - "oh, did I write 'Joni Mitchell'? I meant 'Joni Stone and her Big Band'." PaulC (inconsolable) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:06:03 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: NJC Happy Birthday Leslie! Leslie Mixon O J Simpson Tom Hanks among the illustrustrous folks who celebrate on July 9th I know because I do too. However since this year I am turning 50, I am asking, oh my God, why? Personally, I am opposed to being 50. (the Rev0 Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:21:08 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: "Asbury Park": Bravo, Rose! / "40-watt stars": Bravo, Jeff! NJC Isn't it cool how old influences can lie dormant in artists until the time is right? Thanks to Rose's picture, I now know something about the "Palace" in Asbury Park, New Jersey, USA. From Rose's informal portrait, I'd say the "Palace" was a roller-skating rink in better days. In decades-old paint, a section of an outdoor wall now foreshadows a Springsteen album title. How fecking *COOL* IS THAT?!?! That wall sat there for decades, a musty memory in the brain of Asbury Park's favorite son until his personal life brought it screaming to the fore. == A similar sense of deja-vu happened last week when I was listening to Jeff Bisch's new album "40 Watt Stars". A few lucky, sleep-deprived JMDLers heard him preview a new song called "Daddy Swing Me Higher" in Ashara's rec room. I won't give it away but upon the fourth listening I noticed that Jeff did something fecking BRILLIANT in the lyric. In the first refrain, he tells us about his daughter's favorite thrill as a kid in the park. In the double-length third verse when his daughter comes of age, her beau's favorite thing about her mirrors exactly what she loved as a child. (Like I said, I won't spoil it because it's better to find some treasures for yourself.) I was listening on headphones at work when I "found" it and I bellowed out "*WHOA*!!" and tore the 'phones off! Thanks, Jeff. Thanks Rose. Life is finally good again. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:12:06 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Asbury Park": Bravo, Rose! / "40-watt stars": Bravo, Jeff! NJC In a message dated 7/8/02 9:22:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jlamadoo@fuse.net writes: > Isn't it cool how old influences can lie dormant in artists until the time > is right? Thanks to Rose's picture, I now know something about the > "Palace" > in Asbury Park, New Jersey, USA. From Rose's informal portrait, I'd say > the > "Palace" was a roller-skating rink in better days. In decades-old paint, a > section of an outdoor wall now foreshadows a Springsteen album title. How > fecking *COOL* IS THAT?!?! That wall sat there for decades, a musty memory > in the brain of Asbury Park's favorite son until his personal life brought > it screaming to the fore. > Thanks Jim for visiting the pics. The Palace was an amusement arcade. It housed a funhouse and rides. Here's a little history... The famous Palace Amusements at Lake Avenue & The Boardwalk. Built in 1887, an addition was added in 1958. The Palace closed in 1989 when "redevelopment plans" were proposed. Such plans have yet to materialize a decade later. Currently, a battle continues between city and state officials and historians as to the fate of this building. It is in serious disrepair. Bruce is deeply committed to the preservation of these historical sites. He has performed many fundraisers Bruce plans a live TV show at Asbury Park July 30th at 7AM. Thanks to Muller for the heads up on this one.I hope to attend the listening party at the Stone Pony on the 29th, if I can get in. I may as well stay overnight, what the hell. ASBURY PARK, June 22, 2002 -- Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band will appear on NBC's Today show live from Asbury Park July 30.The three-hour program will coincide with the release of Springsteen's first studio album with the E Street Band since 1984's Born in the U.S.A.According to the New York Daily News, Springsteen and the band will perform at least four songs, and chat with show hosts Matt Lauer and Katie Couric during the broadcast from a location in Asbury Park which has yet to be determined. Another event has already been scheduled in Asbury Park involving the release of the new disc, The Rising.Jack's Music of Red Bank and The Stone Pony are having a party on the night of Mon., July 29 to celebrate the release. When Springsteen's Live in NYC came out in April of last year, more than 300 people b including Springsteen b turned out at Jack's at midnight. That led store manager Chris Van Orden to look for more space this time."We're expecting a lot more people," Van Orden told the Daily News. "Our store will not be able to handle it. We're expecting three times as many people to show up."The event begins at 9 p.m. and admission is free.The new album features 14 new songs and the E Street Band version of My City of Ruins, the poignant tune originally dedicated to Asbury Park when Springsteen played it for the first time in December 2000 at Asbury Park's Convention Hall.The July 30 Today broadcast will be the first time that the entire show goes on location for a concert performance.It will also be a rare live television performance for Springsteen.He last appeared live on the post-Sept. 11 benefit telethon, A Tribute to Heroes. Springsteen also appeared on NBC's Saturday Night Live in 1992.Today began an outdoor concert series seven years ago. The show's producers have repeatedly asked Springsteen to appear, though he has declined until now, according to the Daily News. The paper says that Today has also wanted to do a beach-themed show.Springsteen has deepened his commitment to Asbury Park in recent years with Christmas benefit shows at Convention Hall, an unscheduled acoustic performance last summer at the Monmouth County Friends of Clearwater Festival, and showing up unexpectedly at local small businesses to show his support.In addition to his series of five sold-out benefit shows in the city last December, Springsteen occasionally drops in at The Stone Pony to see or perform with artists such as E Street Band members Clarence Clemons and Nils Lofgren. He rented the club in April and performed at a two-day benefit for a private school. rose from nj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:27:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Asbury Park NJ, USA njc - --- rosemjoy@aol.com wrote: > Hello JMDL, > > Please come see my new photos on PhotoIsland.com! > > To get there, simply click the address below and > enter your guest password: rising > > http://www.photoisland.com/servlet/GuestLogin?USERNAME=rosejoy47 > > If that doesn't work, go to www.photoisland.com, and > log in to my albums with the following information: > > Log-in ID: rosejoy47 > Guest Password: rising Rose - what an amazing building (or buildings!) I love all that oxidized copper - there's some amazing detail in some of the fancy-work around the roof, and that rotunda is something else. I hope they aren't planning to tear that down. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Happy Birthday Leslie! and Vince! - --- Vince Lavieri wrote: > Leslie Mixon > O J Simpson > Tom Hanks > > among the illustrustrous folks who celebrate on July > 9th > Happy birthday(s), Leslie and Vince. I too am opposed to being 50, but I'm not crazy about the alternative either. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:41:22 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: homeland security hoax, NJC Hi Jim, > Now that we've brought it out into the open, do Air Force jets over the City > make you feel more safe or less safe? Since you brought it up - it definitely makes me feel more safe. The F-16s were flying over parts of L.A. right after 9-11, particularly near the harbor area (which is near where my parents live). My mom says they are still going over occasionally. I was on Catalina island a few weeks ago and one whizzed right over Two Harbors where I was staying one night at about midnight - jumped me right out of my seat - not because of it's presence but because I thought something had happened to be on high alert. Right after 9-11 several military helicopters started methodically criss-crossing back and forth over downtown every night around 2 a.m. One about flew by by window at eye level one night. Reminded me of the movie Apocalypse Now. It's all very surreal but personally I feel a bit more assured than not having their presence. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:52:59 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Asbury Park NJ, USA njc In a message dated 7/8/02 10:27:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > Rose - what an amazing building (or buildings!) I love > all that oxidized copper - there's some amazing detail > in some of the fancy-work around the roof, and that > rotunda is something else. I hope they aren't planning > to tear that down. > > I dunno Catherine. The city council approved a waterfront plan which includes the preservation of the Stone Pony. As for the Casino and the Carousel Pavilion ??? I get a headache reading it. See if u can make heads or tails of it http://asburypark.net/news/redevelopment/report.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 23:02:42 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: bombers in the sky NJC Myself, I dream that I see above us the military planes flying shot gun in the sky, turning into butterflies across the nations. I pray that it one day be so for all people everywhere. And I ask, in the (slightly paraphrased) words of a song from Godspell, when will you save the people, O God of mercy when? The people, Lord, the people - not thrones and crowns, but us? (the Rev) Vince PS: When I took my grandson recently to the top of Sears Tower, always the biggest building in the world, they had massive security measures in place, as might be expected, and that was ok, except I cracked up laughing when I saw a group ,of Amish surrounded by security personnel, being frisked and run over with the wand. The Amish looked so confused... hey, if the Amish, who are pacifists, can find a way to blow us up with the technology of the 16th century, I'd almost really like to see it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:26:08 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: "Asbury Park": Bravo, Rose! / "40-watt stars": Bravo, Jeff! NJC yes i agree...bravo rose...what beautiful photos of such incredible architecture...much of it looks like that beautiful green that brass turns from the sea air...& sometimes even the sea is that color i especially loved the closeups...of the seahorses & the swirling sun in the glass...but all of it really, as a tribute to another time of a town... what a shame it is in ruins...how did this happen? maybe it too will rise as it seems atlantic city has risen from its ruins awhile ago...although, like many places, it will be different, not the same as before ( i have watched my town change radically...a sleepy santa barbara it was when i first discovered her...since then, several presidents have resided here & so many celebrities have made this town their home...a place where you used to be able to ride your horse to the beach has become a dangerous place to drive) but i digress... too bad musicians don't get the money that actors do (like bruce willis who bought a town in idaho) ... wouldn't it be cool if bruce s could buy the town & restore it? nj towns probably are more expensive than idaho towns though... how did i miss asbury park when i was a jersey girl?...i spent my summer youth in point pleasant, bay head & seaside...all south of asbury park...i missed bruce too...i was california dreamin... when i first heard bruce's songs, i knew the landscape of his songs (both physical & emotional)...& was amazed at his songwriting genius...(btw, jeff & i are working on one of his most beautiful songs for the jonifest) when i heard "tunnel of love" - the song lama refers to when he so eloquently writes "In decades-old paint, a section of an outdoor wall now foreshadows a Springsteen album title." oh, i could not believe my ears when i heard that song & when i read the album credits that said they had recorded the point pleasant roller coaster!!! my roller coaster!!!! now, i sadly realize, it may be because his city was in ruins... but here is why the song was so cool for me...i don't know about the tunnel of love in asbury park, but the one in point pleasant i know very well... it was a very scary ride that i rode when i was young...the memory is so clear...i really really really wanted to go on it...my parents said okay but no one else wanted to go, so i went alone! i was shaking like a leaf when i got off...it was NOT about love, it was about scaring you...things popping out of you from the darkness! but if you listen to his song, knowing that this ride was deceptive, that is what his song was about... anyway, i had the same kind of epiphany when i heard that song, maybe like the one that you mention you had with jeff's song...lama, if only the world was filled with more people like you, & those of so many here on the jmdl...who really listen to music & lyrics!!!! i shared your words with jeff who was elated to hear what you found...he said when he discovered that verse it was a jewel to him...you are the first to mention it...so from the bottom of my heart, thank you for noticing!!! i am so happy to hear your world is better...i am so proud of you for saying what you felt needed saying!!!! ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #280 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?