From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #243 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, June 7 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 243 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Bruuuuuuuccceeee! (NJC) [FredNow@aol.com] WON'T YOU HELP? njc [FredNow@aol.com] Re: njc Well done USA! (Football Content) ["kakki" ] Re: dancing about architecture njc ["kakki" ] =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IHVudXN1YWwgSm9uaSBjb3Zlcj8goE5KQw==?= [SCJoniGuy@aol.] Re: Funeral Soundtrack njc [Jerry Notaro ] Joni's crazy sound effects and noises [Abbymusique@aol.com] FZ (NJC) [Emily Gray Tedrowe ] Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: dancing to architecture....Joni and FZ [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc [cvickery@danielrealty.com] re:dancing to architecture...Joni and FZ ["Tom Rodwell" ] I don't believe this . . . [Kate ] Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises ["Tom Rodwell" ] Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises [Merk54@aol.com] Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] graveyards [Kate ] NJC Catherine McKinnon [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: graveyards(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Bruuuuuuuccceeee! (NJC) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Bruuuuuuuccceeee! (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Bruuuuuuuccceeee! (NJC) [Mags N Brei ] Re: I don't believe this . . . [Mags N Brei ] Fwd: Rock Songs for Folks over 60 (njc) [jan gyn ] Penis Dog NJC ["Grace" ] Re: Joni's crazy sound effects [Abbymusique@aol.com] This n' That (NJC) [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Penis Dog NJC [Randy Remote ] Doxie & other Dogs NJC [Vince Lavieri ] Strats ["Josh Eubank" ] Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises [Catherine McKay ] Re: graveyards njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Penis Dog NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Penis Dog NJC ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Joni's crazy sound effects [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: graveyards njc [Rick and Susan ] Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises [] Conversation ["Buck - the - Dog" ] dancing to architecture ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Papa Was A Rolling Stone - njc ["Kate Bennett" I'm awaiting this record with baited breath Worms or minnows? (insert emoticon here) - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 03:29:01 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: WON'T YOU HELP? njc Dear Friends: I am grateful for your past support in helping to protect the National WildFred Refuge. Your continued support today can make the difference in the Refuge's future: drilling or untouched Fred gigs. The WildFred Refuge is worth much, much more than a possibility of a six months' supply ten years from now! Former President Jimmy Carter wrote: "The simple fact is, drilling is inherently incompatible with Fred. The roar alone -- of roadbuilding trucks, drilling and generators -- would pollute the wild music of the WildFred Refuge and be as out of place there as it would be in the heart of Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon." You and I must act now! "But, what can I do?" you ask. HERE'S WHAT TO DO: COME HAVE A NOSH AND/OR A TASTE, AND DIG A FRED GIG AT LEXI'S, 1330 W. MADISON, CHICAGO, 312.829.4600, THIS FRIDAY, JUNE 7, FROM 7 - 11 PM, AND SPORADIC FRIDAYS THEREAFTER. Please help protect the dwindling, precious resources of our National WildFred Refuge. Thank you in advance for your support. I look forward to welcoming you to our team! Sincerely, Nick Curtis (YOUR CONTRIBUTION MAY BE TAX-DEDUCTIBLE TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW) [Advanced alert: Fred Group, The Green Mill, Chicago, Sunday, June 30th, 2 - 4 pm, on a double bill with Kelly Brand's Nextet, as part of the Chicago Jazz Composers Collective monthly concert series.] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 02:10:24 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: njc Well done USA! (Football Content) Azeem, I must confess I saw a news headline on the net about something like this and thought "no, we couldn't be doing so well in something we are not known for." I started to read the article but couldn't understand it and gave up! So there you go! Clueless. LOL Kakki, only knows baseball > Ah well, this confirms to me just how far Association Football has to travel > before it seeps into the national consciousness over the pond: not one > mention of America's stunning victory over Portugal in the World Cup!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 02:21:33 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: dancing about architecture njc Julius, You so funny, har har ;-) It has been amazing to see this being built right next door. It's like an eighth wonder of the world. There was a great article awhile back about how they are breaking the mold in architecture and have literally been making it up as they go along in the construction process. It took a long time to get all the funds together to break ground. Of course, once it was a go, my rent went up 30% a month, ahem, but I'm very happy to have it in the neighborhood. My first dream of what I wanted to be when I grew up was an architect. Alas, I lacked the math aptitude to pursue it, but it is still a great passion. The Disney will open in Fall 2003 and I hope Joni might play there with her orchestra, maybe with a few new paintings hung around the rafters, too ;-) Kakki > By the way, if you don't believe architecture can be "about" music, visit architect Frank Gehry's Walt >Disney Concert Hall for the Los Angeles Philharmonic while it's under construction, just a block >away from where Kakki lives in downtown L.A.: > > "From the stainless steel curves of its striking exterior to the state-of-the-art acoustics of the >hardwood-paneled main auditorium, the 3.6-acre complex embodies the unique energy and creative >spirit of the city of Los Angeles and its orchestra." > > It occurs to me that the above illustrates writing about architecture about music. Go figure. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 07:52:39 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IHVudXN1YWwgSm9uaSBjb3Zlcj8goE5KQw==?= Thanks for the note, Tyler...I'd love to hear it as well as add it to our collection. With some luck we'll break the 1000 mark this year, and it's all due to eagle-eyed JMDL'ers like you! :~) Bob, mildly objecting (but understanding) of the NJC in the header... NP: Radiohead, "Optimistic" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:28:17 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Funeral Soundtrack njc Mark or Travis wrote:LOL! I like this idea, Ruth! But then I've always liked cemeteries. > > Mark E in Seattle And his favorite movie is Harold and Maude! Jerry np: Barbara Higbie - Love Never Dies ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 08:35:50 EDT From: Abbymusique@aol.com Subject: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises I was thinking last night about how Joni does some really strange things on her songs sometimes. I guess to me the funniest thing she did was sticking that blaring siren noise in the middle of "Nathan Lafraneer." I remember the first time I heard it, I was like, "What in the heck is that?" I couldn't stand it at first, but of course, as time went on I got used to the strange sound and decided that the song wouldn't be the same without it. I also love it when she imitates a chicken at the end of "Talk to Me." Anyone else got any sound effects they love and/or hate by Joni? Abby www.authorsden.com/abbymparks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:36:46 -0400 From: Emily Gray Tedrowe Subject: FZ (NJC) hi all. a (completely irrelevant) side note to the frank zappa discussion: there is a local podiatrist's office in oak park and one of the physicians listed right on the front door is none other than "dr. frank zappa." i went in once and got a bunch of his business cards to mail to friends. cheers me up every time i walk by! cheers, emily in chicagoland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:50:59 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises <> Hey Abby, I love the "chicken squacking" too...really serves the song well. This week I made my kid sister a Joni compilation CD, and I wanted to show all of Joni's sides. The only rule I placed on myself was that I could only select one song from each record max. "Talk to Me" was my selection from DJRD, as I think it shows 'playful' Joni at her best, and of course Jaco adds another dimension to it as well. But back to your question...on the other side of the spectrum, I really hate her "drink up now, it's getting on time to close" on "Richard" on MOA (she duplicated it on the S&L tour as well). I think the cranky waitress voice takes away from the poignancy of the song. Maybe she's trying to create a contrast between the intensity of the singer/storyteller & the complacency of the waitress, but it always rings false to me. Bob NP: Radiohead, "Pyramid Song" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 08:51:21 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: dancing to architecture....Joni and FZ found this on a google seach engine... Yes, Joni Mitchell sat in with The Mothers, on November 13th, 1970, at theFillmore East in NYC."Joni Mitchell sat in with us last night during the second show and weimprovised a thing that was really good. And we ended it with her singing'Duke of Earl'. Really far out, she came on stage: 'Now OK and we're goingto improvise this thing...' and we did a few chords for her and she startedreciting this poem which began: 'Penelope wants to fuck the sea..." And theaudience did a double take 'Yuuunk!'... a little hush falls over theFillmore... JONI MITCHELL?"-Zappa, 1970 (Source: Miles)From: DennisMahony (dmahony@prodigy.net)Yeh, I was at that show when Mitchell improvised a tune about a girl whowanted to fuck the sea. While she tried to be ethereal and haunting,Zappa made the band alternate 2 monster chords a tritone apart at anominous largo tempo. Mitchell looked a little thrown by this and glancedover at Zappa, as if she wasn't expecting him to lob her a curve ball.From: Harald Wiester (Harald.Wiester@uni-konstanz.de)I4ve read somewhere that she showed up at least once at Zappa4s place inthe late 604s. Seems a very strange connection to me (was she wearingfeathers and bells?) From: David Wilcher (wilcher@ibm.net)Even stranger was that she dated Motorhead, which is why she endedup at Frank's place...From: Charles Ulrich (chulrich@interchange.ubc.ca)1. Joni Mitchell was Motorhead's "strange new gi rlfriend", circa 1967.2. She sat in with the Mothers at the Fillmore East on who the feck is Motorhead? rose in nj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 08:13:55 -0500 From: cvickery@danielrealty.com Subject: Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc tyler said: > Phranc does a nice cover of 'Ode to Billy Joe' (if > there can be such a thing) on her Goofyfoot cd. and mark opined: <> and just let me add a big ol' fat "me, too!." ms. gentry's songs "ode to billy joe" and "fancy" are both extremely well-written little gems, especially given the time they were written and the market they were written for. c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 01:28:23 +1200 From: "Tom Rodwell" Subject: re:dancing to architecture...Joni and FZ Rose wrote: 1. Joni Mitchell was Motorhead's "strange new gi > rlfriend", circa 1967.2. She sat in with the Mothers at the Fillmore East on > > who the feck is Motorhead? Motorhead was / is: Jim "Motorhead" Sherwood was an old LA-area high school buddy of Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart (Don Van Vliet). He was a quasi-member of the Mothers of Invention since, hmmm, around '63 / '64 / '65. Originally employed as a roadie, he eventually began playing tambourine, singing, "snorking" (making strange vocal noises) and playing brilliantly ugly free improv sax fulltime with the Mothers around '67. He could never play 'properly', but had a really nice naive attitude that certainly worked with the Mother's political stance: ugly music = ugly society. When Frank torpedoed the Mothers in '69, Jim went too.......but he occasionally turned up in later projects, like 1981's You Are What You Is - snorking and noodling on sax. He is currently an electrician (I understand) living in L.A.- according to the recent-ish BBC documentary about Zappa. Jim was one of the many members of the Mothers that lived in Zappa's house in Laurel Canyon around 67/68/69, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Joanmeister met him there. I'd love to ask her about the GTOs, Brian Wilson/ Beach Boys, Alice Cooper, and all the other LA freaks at the time. For those looking for more info on FZ....Motorhead.....and even a little bit of Joni, check out the very excellent Splat's Zappa Page: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~splat/zappapage.html Kind Regards: Tom (Any other Beefheart fans amongst the Jonilistas?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 07:45:33 -0600 From: Kate Subject: I don't believe this . . . . . . Emil just came home from his dad's with a burned cd with Joni singing Ghost Riders in the Sky. Now it doesn't sound like Joni much, to me, except for the odd place, and I am pretty curious (Yippee Ai Ay, Yippee Ai Oh) where the sam hill it was found. Anybody able to tell me? Emil has liked that song since he first heard Fred Penner sing it. He met Fred this weekend after his concert at the International Children's Festival in St. Albert on Saturday. Ever since he met Joni in Saskatoon, he thinks it should be standard to meet any performer he goes to see. I say "Well maybe, but don't count on it" and sure enough he comes home with "Mom, you were wrong! Fred was signing autographs after his concert." Kate du N <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Letter Out is a journal whatnot sent via email whenever I have time and inclination. Receive it automatically by replying to this email with "Subscribe" in the Subject box. To unsubscribe, put "Unsubscribe" in the subject box. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 01:50:07 +1200 From: "Tom Rodwell" Subject: Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises Abby writes: I also love > it when she imitates a chicken at the end of "Talk to Me." That song is so brilliant.......and everything Joni sings in it is so intensely sexy. And what about that line: "I didn't know I drank such a lot, 'till I pissed a tequila anaconda the full length of parking lot".........Now that is such a beautiful and frankly arousing combination of weirdness and poetry! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 10:02:04 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: I don't believe this . . . <> A new one on me as well, Kate...anything else with it, or just the one song? Assuming it is Joni, are you willing to share? ;~) Bob NP: Radiohead, "In Limbo", 9/16/00 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:33:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: Funeral Soundtrack njc heather wrote: > this seems like a grave situation. "Again and again a grave situation ..." Ruth wrote: > I think everyone should plan their own funeral in advance. I keep trying > to talk my husband into pre-buying a plot, so we can go there for picnics > before the fact, and kind of get used to it, but that is too bizarre for him. I think this is a spendid idea, Ruth! You could even buy a "bench"-type memorial in advance, so there will always be a place to sit. There's a "new" idea circulating regarding what to do with one's remains: your corpse can be frozen in liquid nitrogen and shattered into dust. A cardbord, degradable coffin lets the remains enrich the soil in six months. I like this idea for myself. Lori ~ Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 13:11:23 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises My favorite is the cigarette machine as percussion instrument on Smokin' (Empty, Try Another). I crack up everytime I hear this. The wolves in The Wolf That Lives in Lindsey is pretty awesome as well (plus I love the story behind this). And since Dog Eat Dog is my wife's absolute favorite Joni Mitchell album, I get to hear it alot (I happen to be rather fond of it myself!). Jack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:19:00 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises <> OK, I just got back from my lunhctime run, and I thought of more stuff: The crickets on NRH...I like them as an intro, but they keep chirping too darn long into the song, plus they're too mechanical, they sound too metronomic (don't know if that's a word or not). The wolves on "Lindsay"...love it/them, they add to the haunting nature of the song, one of Joni's best & most overlooked. Can't wait to hear Marian play it again!!!! As for all the synth farts & bleeps and effects on DED, well, I won't even go there! ;~) Bob NP: Bonnie Raitt, "Cool, Clear Water" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:33:00 -0600 From: Kate Subject: graveyards Graveyards are a peaceful yet mysterious place. All these stories of people - -- and no way to know them -- really I love to walk among the headstones and read them and wonder what the person beneath the name looked like and what he did and what she died from and when and of course as a parent the tombstones of children tear at my heart I would very much love to know their stories and always, leaving a graveyard, I feel sombre and yet grateful to still be alive and still have my children with me haven't been there this year yet and last year the mosquitoes nearly sunked us dry when we stopped at a bench there to eat our takeout chinese when i told my neighbour once that i like to walk in graveyards and maybe one day would take a picnic basket she gave me a funny look as if that would not be quite decent her 17-year-old son is buried in a graveyard in hay river, nwt so maybe she has a different view of it than i she is also a practising and mindful catholic whether that has anything to do with it or not there is someone who travelled around alberta or maybe all of canada and took photos of tombstones. i think he did a little research on their life stories too. ok now i can't send this there is no joni content so what the hell do i do with it? i am not on the joni-not list feel kinda like i'm cheating by doing this, adding a joni at the end: my mother, who was born and raised in saskatchewan about 150 miles from Saskatoon (east instead of west, like Maidstone), is very close to Joni's age. She's 61. But the difference between the two of them is almost that of two different generations. My mom has led a conservative life, mostly on the farm although not any longer, and really seems like more of one of my grandparents' generation, while Joni seems more like my own (I'm 43) generation. does this make sense, am i getting my meaning across? i must have a notion that joni is sophisticatedly "cool" while my mother is not, definitely, though she is a beautiful and unique person of character although joni did not give off a coolness at the mendel oh no she was warm, like light, and a very gentle spirit from where i stood my mother is also a singer, the choir variety the kitchen chair or living room couch on xmas eve singsong initiator what a beautiful voice she has, deep and rich and warm and pitch-perfect she was a catherine mckinnon fan before catherine changed her style to jazz and my mother thought that was a mistake that cost her her fans, including mom ranger rick, you know who catherine mckinnon is do you guys stateside know of her? anyway catherine's early records are the kind of music my mom liked back then rick, are you guys fighting fires around vancouver too? it's bad here, there are three large forest fires out of control in alberta and they've been that way for weeks (correct me if my facts are wrong, rr, as we know they can be) and the volunteer firefighters are getting worn out. one of the fires is about 20 miles from my house the wind has whipped it up and shows no signs of giving us a damn break nor is the great spirit responding favourably to halfhearted prayers we need a serious rain dance kate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Letter Out is a journal whatnot sent via email whenever I have time and inclination. Receive it automatically by replying to this email with "Subscribe" in the Subject box. To unsubscribe, put "Unsubscribe" in the subject box. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:41:35 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Catherine McKinnon <> I do, but just because she covered "BSN". Bob NP: Bonnie Raitt, "Feeling of Falling" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 13:51:8 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: RE: graveyards(njc) > when i told my neighbour once that i like to walk in graveyards > and maybe one day would take a picnic basket > she gave me a funny look > as if that would not be quite decent > I did a show in a graveyard once in Decatur, in a historical graveyard(some sort of benefit.) It felt rather peaceful actually and it was a beautiful sunny day. Maybe at night it would have felt a little different. I guess graveyards have somewhat of a lure to them, maybe seeming to be a kind of meeting place, between life and death. I think I'd rather have a picnic by a river though. Victor - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:44:58 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Bruuuuuuuccceeee! (NJC) saw some concert footage the other night on vh1? with all these guys, with snippets of bruce interviews in between songs...he was really hamming it up on stage like those old r&b guys used to do...doin his preacher of r&r thing... the concert ended with an awesome song i'd never heard...jeff & i looked at each other & said, we have to learn that one...called "If I Should Fall Behind"...everyone (cept Max) in the band took a turn at the mike for a verse & the last verse they all sang together in glorious multipart harmony...absolutely stunning... kate, former jersey girl...my experience has shown me that the majority of californians at sometime in their life lived in new jersey... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 15:49:14 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bruuuuuuuccceeee! (NJC) <<...called "If I Should Fall Behind">> From his '92 "Lucky Town" release...he put out another record alongside it, "Human Touch". If I Should Fall Behind was a plain song in the studio, a simple pledge of committment between two people. But like you say, live on the last couple tours, he transformed the song to symbolize committment between lovers/races/genders/friends, you name it. The first time I heard that live version (on a boot back in '99) I was moved to tears. A couple of years down the road, it still packs a wallop. Bob NP: Bonnie, "Spit Of Love" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Bruuuuuuuccceeee! (NJC) - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > > > << looked at > each other & said, we have to learn that one...called "If I Should > Fall > Behind"...everyone (cept Max) in the band took a turn at the mike for > a > verse & the last verse they all sang together in glorious multipart > harmony...absolutely stunning...>> sounds like a fantastic concert Kate...looking forward to you and Jeff learning that song! > > < majority of > californians at sometime in their life lived in new jersey...>> yea and I hear that Jersey girls are really Canadians in disguise ;~) Mags.... a real live Jersey girl too > > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > www.katebennett.com > sponsored by Polysonics > Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: > http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html > ******************************************** ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 15:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: I don't believe this . . . - --- Kate wrote: > > > < met > Fred this weekend after his concert at the International Children's > Festival > in St. Albert on Saturday. Ever since he met Joni in Saskatoon, he > thinks it > should be standard to meet any performer he goes to see. I say "Well > maybe, > but don't count on it" and sure enough he comes home with "Mom, you > were > wrong! Fred was signing autographs after his concert.">> Fred Penner is a warm and wonderful, down to earth Canuckian performer. I think he is from Winterpeg, Manitoba. My daughter grew up listening to him and I can still hear echoes of her beautiful voice singing along...sandwiches are beautiful, sandwiches are fine...i love sandwiches i eat them all the time...etc etc. Fred Penner is a great musician and a lot of fun. He obviously loves and respects children. Mags. > > Kate du N > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > Letter Out is a journal whatnot sent via email whenever I have time > and > inclination. Receive it automatically by replying to this email with > "Subscribe" in the Subject box. To unsubscribe, put "Unsubscribe" in > the > subject box. > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 15:52:22 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Fwd: Rock Songs for Folks over 60 (njc) >> 10. Let's Get a Physical >> >> 9. Ain't No Burrito Mild Enough >> >> 8. Johnny B. Olde >> >> 7. How Do You Mend a Broken Everything >> >> 6. The Lack O' Motion >> >> 5. Hair Potion Number Nine >> >> 4. Doctor My Eyes (And Ears and Joints and Back and...) >> >> 3. To All the Girls I've Disappointed Before >> >> 2. A Hard Day's Nap >> >> 1. Knock Knock Knockin' on the Bathroom Door ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:11:48 +0100 From: "Grace" Subject: Penis Dog NJC Visted a friend and came home with a Miniature Longhaired Dachshund. I have called her Chip(short for chipolata). Looked on the net for info and disvovered in the USA they are called Weiner Dogs! I always thought Weiner was slang for penis, hece the subject line. She is about 3 ins tall and 5ft long. Very cute. fearless. Unklike my other dogs who are mostly afraid of her. eats like a pig. well behaved. smallest dog i have ever adopted. she will be about 10lbs as an adult. red in colour. grace - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 06/06/02 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:10:18 EDT From: Abbymusique@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's crazy sound effects I've never heard the song "The Wolves in Lindsey." What album is it from? Abby www.authorsden.com/abbymparks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:51:52 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: This n' That (NJC) In CT again, playing Florence Nighthgale to my mom, then off to a Sea Music Festival in Mystic, CT. I'm on my laptop, which is almost impossible to type on, but just wanted to say a few brief things..... Lama- what an incredible essay!! I really enjoyed it, and appreciated the time and energy you put into it. Twin brother Mark- I am so, so very sorry to hear about your cat. :-( Kakki- Great review of the CPR concert! As always, every well written, and as always, I felt as if I were there! Thanks! Vince- Sorry to hear about your parishoners. They were so blessed to have you in their lives. Lindsay- I am so behind in mail, and see that your Oud question was already answered. I "almost" bought one last summer, but opted for the mandolin instead. Thankfully, one of my sons decided to take up the mandolin, because I was too busy to even start figuring it out! The Oud is a very cool instrument, and one of these days I am determined to get one a learn how to play it! To all the nurses and caregivers out there in JMDL land- you are thebest of the best. Each time I run down to CT to do my duty with my mom, I marvel at how WONDERFUL, caring, funny, and amazing each and every nurse has been. Thank you for choosing a difficult job that you probably rarely hear "thanks" in. Lastly, unfortunately there have been a few cancellations for Jonifest, thus I have a few rooms that have opened up. If anyone is interested in coming, or upgrading from camping/yurt or wants a single room, please let me know as soon as possible. That's it for now. Still catching up with posts., Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 17:44:40 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Penis Dog NJC We call them Dachshunds, but some people call them "weiner dogs", and yes weiner or weenie is slang for penis in the US. My mom had one (a Dachshund, not a penis), and it was a nice little dog, full of energy and spirit. Randy in California Grace wrote: > Visted a friend and came home with a Miniature Longhaired Dachshund. I have > called her Chip(short for chipolata). Looked on the net for info and > disvovered in the USA they are called Weiner Dogs! I always thought Weiner was > slang for penis, hece the subject line. > She is about 3 ins tall and 5ft long. Very cute. fearless. Unklike my other > dogs who are mostly afraid of her. eats like a pig. well behaved. smallest dog > i have ever adopted. she will be about 10lbs as an adult. red in colour. > grace > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 06/06/02 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:36:21 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Doxie & other Dogs NJC Randy Remote wrote: > We call them Dachshunds, but some people call them "weiner dogs", > and yes weiner or weenie is slang for penis in the US. My mom had > one (a Dachshund, My mom had three, very high spirited dogs - train them early because they can be stubborn, don't let them get away with anything becuse they are cute and puppies because they are very intelligent and once they get their way they do not relinquish - but they are wonderful dogs, will always have a fondness for doxies. My breed is Samoyeds, and right now my 9 week pup, Tenoch (from Y Tu Mama Tambien) is eating my jeans as I type this., alternating between chewing on me and chewing on my 10 year old Sam, Tomas (I have no idea why my siberian dogs have spanish names). Nice thing about being part owner of this apartment building is that I can have all the dogs and all the barking that I want. Tenoch has already been to three games at Comiskey Park, goes to work with Tommy and me daily, and learned very quickly about how to walk off leash on the sidewalk (I train all my dogs off lead, much faster that way, and they are pack animals after all). I am expecting tomorrow or before the weekend is over for his ears to come up - a very big day in the life of a Samoyed puppy - and sorry for boring everyone with my dogs, but thinking about doxies has me all in a canine mood. Tommy, Tenoch, and my grandson Gage are going to two baseball games in Chicago this weekend - three best dates that I will ever have again. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:43:38 -0400 From: "Josh Eubank" Subject: Strats Anyone on the list own a strat? If so, what are the differences in the three different types...I've been told there were three, the American, the Japenese, and the Mexican strat! Do they sound different? Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:35:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises - --- Abbymusique@aol.com wrote: > I was thinking last night about how Joni does some > really strange things on > her songs sometimes. [...] Anyone else got > any sound effects they love and/or hate by Joni? > > Abby > www.authorsden.com/abbymparks Love the "Hey-ya-hey-da-da-da-hey-yas" (that's what they sound like to me) on "Song for Sharon." Could do without the "Nice Kitty, Kitty" on "Taming the Tiger" (can't even hear it without thinking about Britney Spears, God forbid). Love the (what sounds to me like) "Ba'd'm bop, b'way op" and the hellycopter sounds in "Beat of Black Wings", the typewriter percussion-y things when she sings "The band sounds like typewriters" in "Edith * the KP". Don't care for the "Hoo doos" in "Woodstock" LOTC version (too much vibrato or something.) And you know... the rest. I don't think I've written such an onompataia-filled e-mail in a helluvalongtime. ______________________________________________________________________ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:39:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: I don't believe this . . . now njc - --- Kate wrote: > . . . Emil just came home from his dad's with a > burned cd with Joni singing > Ghost Riders in the Sky. ....> > > Emil has liked that song since he first heard Fred > Penner sing it. He met > Fred this weekend after his concert at the > International Children's Festival > in St. Albert on Saturday. Ever since he met Joni in > Saskatoon, he thinks it > should be standard to meet any performer he goes to > see. I say "Well maybe, > but don't count on it" and sure enough he comes home > with "Mom, you were > wrong! Fred was signing autographs after his > concert." My kids used too love Fred Penner & I enjoyed him too. We saw him a few times. "Ghost riders in the sky" is a fun song to sing, esp. the yippee-ai-yo bit. When my ex worked for the Toronto Sun, Fred Penner came by (maybe for an interview). The ex got Fred's autograph for my daughter and she was so thrilled. His concerts are a lot of fun and he never seems to get tired of singing a lot of his old standards. ______________________________________________________________________ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:39:50 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rock Songs for Folks over 60 (njc) Very funny, Jan. And don't forget my Joni favorite -- "Help Me, I've Fallen Down and Can't Get Up!" Speaking of rock songs for older folks, I was wondering the other day whether the Rolling Stones will be dropping any songs from their set list on their upcoming tour now that they're all near or over 60. It seems to me that "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" means one thing when it's sung by a 20 year old, and something quite different when the singer is 60! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:42:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Funeral Soundtrack njc - --- Lori in MD wrote: > There's a "new" idea circulating regarding what to > do with one's remains: your corpse can be frozen in > liquid nitrogen and shattered into dust. A > cardbord, degradable coffin lets the remains enrich > the soil in six months. > > I like this idea for myself. > Me too. Sign me up for one of those - it sounds more environmentally friendly than cremation. ______________________________________________________________________ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:49:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: graveyards njc - --- Kate wrote: > Graveyards are a peaceful yet mysterious place. All > these stories of people > -- and no way to know them -- really > > I love to walk among the headstones and read them > and wonder what the person > beneath the name looked like and what he did and > what she died from and when > and of course as a parent the tombstones of children > tear at my heart > There's a tombstone just a few down from my mother-in-law's. On it are the names and birthdates of two children, a boy and a girl, who, if they had lived, would be about the same ages as my own two kids. They both died on the same day. Their parents names and birthdates are on the stone, with dates of death to be added later. It always breaks my heart when I see this and I wonder what happened? Car accident? Fire? Something very tragic. At Christmastime, there's always a little Christmas tree on their grave; other mementoes or flowers or gifts of some kind at other times of the year and the grave is always clean and well-tended. It makes me feel so sorry for those parents who lost both of their children at once and so young, and it makes me thank God for my own two kids. ______________________________________________________________________ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:53:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Penis Dog NJC - --- Grace wrote: > Visted a friend and came home with a Miniature > Longhaired Dachshund. I have > called her Chip(short for chipolata). Looked on the > net for info and > disvovered in the USA they are called Weiner Dogs! I > always thought Weiner was > slang for penis, hece the subject line. Silly wabbit! Yes, some people do say wiener for penis. However, it's also another name for "hot dog", "Frankfurter" or "Sausage." > She is about 3 ins tall and 5ft long. Very cute. > fearless. Are you sure she isn't a snake? ______________________________________________________________________ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 23:0:23 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Penis Dog NJC > We call them Dachshunds, but some people call them "weiner dogs", > There is a whole book written about "weiner dogs" by Gary Larson of the far side. A great book, I don't know if its still in print or not. Victor, just getting back from an marvelous open mic night... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 23:01:34 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's crazy sound effects **I've never heard the song "The Wolves in Lindsey." What album is it from?** See, I told you it was overlooked! ;~) "The Wolf That Lives In Lindsay" is one of the Joni-only compositions on Mingus. Bob NP: Fred Holstein, "For All The Good People" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 20:29:15 -0700 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: graveyards njc on 6/6/02 10:33 AM, Kate at katiekate@iglide.net wrote: > ranger rick, you know who catherine mckinnon is I'm the one who has to take the blame for sending a very bland version of BSN by Catherine McKinnon to Bob for inclusion in the Covers project. Not the worst version ever but why didn't she take the time to get the words right? > rick, are you guys fighting fires around vancouver too? No, Kate, the south coast is much too wet for that kind of fire to happen, except for once in a blue moon. Fires here, usually the result of lightning strikes, tend to be small and are quickly put out by rap-attack teams. R. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:53:14 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Re: Joni's crazy sound effects and noises Can we count as sound effect the "angry spoken words" in "Harry's House"? I love that "I said, get down over there". joseph whose favorite is still HOSL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 23:12:20 -0500 From: "Buck - the - Dog" Subject: Conversation Maybe somebody can answer this. I've wondered it for a really long time. What is up with the extra lyrics to "Conversation" on the JMDL site? Is there a recording out there where Joni sings the songs with these extra lyrics? I was just thinking about this today and thought, "Hey, now that I'm a subsriber, I can ask the people who know answers to questions like this!" Thanks! ~Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 23:19:01 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: dancing to architecture i loved that neil young interview victor..this attitude he has, of reaching beyond the notes...i think its what make his performances (at least recently) so incredibly powerful...its something that he is doing internally that just gets transported into the audience...its not the music per se...it is something more...going through the wall, that is what he does...i think that may be why he doesn't do the meet & greet after a show...he's still over on the other side >I think that the original is a comparison, viz, "Architecture is frozen music," or some such.< This above always made sense to me...music is math (well its much more of course, but in its basic form, it is math...& architecture is also math...so when something is built then it becomes a form that in a sense is frozen...music on the other hand is not...its the other end of the mathematical spectrum...more mutable, changeable at any moment..still the relationships are always mathematical... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 23:18:54 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Papa Was A Rolling Stone - njc <> That IS a great line, Heather. Reminds me of Bono's line: "You gave me nothing, now it's all I've got..." Bob<< then there is "you don't bring me anything but down" Sheryl Crow ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #243 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?