From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #241 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, June 5 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 241 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: today in bobbie gentry history - njc [Gerald McNamara ] Re: Odd Joni CD [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: ronnie dyson-thom bell njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] funeral soundtrack [Kate ] today in bobbie gentry history - njc ["kerry" ] Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc [Gerald Notaro ] Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] Attention, Bay Area JMDLers! (NJC) [] Dog Eat Dog reality TV - njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] The food thang NJC [Monafitz@aol.com] Joni and the web ["brian symes" ] Re: Renewed Byrds/Andrew Gold (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] december 1 - njc ["patrick leader" ] pop dates(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Fwd: Cat Haikus (njc) [jan gyn ] Re: pop dates(njc) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: pop dates(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: pop dates(njc) [JRMCo1@aol.com] Joni on DVD [KLCass21@aol.com] Re: pop dates(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: pop dates(njc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: pop dates(njc) [Mags N Brei ] dancing to architecture [Murphycopy@aol.com] Papa Was A Rolling Stone - njc ["Heather" ] Re: dancing to architecture [Randy Remote ] RE: dancing to architecture ["patrick leader" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 7:22:30 UTC From: Gerald McNamara Subject: RE: today in bobbie gentry history - njc > OK, I'll play. What's December 1? well I'm sitting over her in digest mode, and the answer's probably already come in and I haven't realised it yet, but..... I reckon it was the "day that my daddy died", from Papa Was A Rolling Stone . - -Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 00:50:36 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Renewed Byrds/Andrew Gold (njc) >>I think our Victor should put in his resume for this one! << i had the very same thought kakki, ....we'll be saying victor, victor, remember me? remember when we used to jam together? victor, can you put our name in on the guest list? lol, go for it victor! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 07:25:25 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: pop dates In a message dated 04/06/02 08:27:12 GMT Daylight Time, gfm@bom.gov.au writes: << well I'm sitting over her in digest mode, and the answer's probably already come in and I haven't realised it yet, but..... I reckon it was the "day that my daddy died", from Papa Was A Rolling Stone . >> Hmm, wasn't that the 3rd of September? Here's a REALLY obscure one: "It was June 1982 when Gwen and I did part" Azeem in London, somewhat hungover NP: South Korea v Poland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 07:48:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc - --- Mark or Travis wrote: > > I thought I knew, then realized I was thinking of > > December 31. Does anyone know what day that is > (apart > > from New Year's Eve, that is?) > > > It's the very worst time of the year > You have to think of people you like enough to share > your beer > Just when you're having fun > It's January One > And you wait for explanations to appear You got it, Mark! ______________________________________________________________________ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 07:50:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: pop dates - --- AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 04/06/02 08:27:12 GMT Daylight > Time, gfm@bom.gov.au writes: > > << well I'm sitting over her in digest mode, and the > answer's > probably already come in and I haven't realised it > yet, but..... > > I reckon it was the "day that my daddy died", from > Papa Was A Rolling Stone . > >> > > Hmm, wasn't that the 3rd of September? > It was the third of some -ember, that's all I remember! ______________________________________________________________________ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 07:51:08 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Odd Joni CD <> Lindsay, This is just a re-issue of LOTC, made in Europe and sold in the US as an "import". Tracks: 1. Ladies of the Canyon (Mitchell) - 3:26 2. Big Yellow Taxi (Mitchell) - 2:12 3. Woodstock (Mitchell) - 5:20 4. Blue Boy (Mitchell) - 2:47 5. Morning Morgan Town (Mitchell) - 3:08 6. For Free (Mitchell) - 4:23 7. The Circle Game (Mitchell) - 4:43 8. Conversation (Mitchell) - 4:20 9. Rainy Night House (Mitchell) - 3:02 10. The Arrangement (Mitchell) - 3:24 It also features the hideous "Joni-as-Mr. Peanut" cover. Bob NP: Prince, "dolphin" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 07:58:53 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: ronnie dyson-thom bell njc <> I'm with you 100% on that salute, Mack. Thom Bell, along with Kenny Gamble & Leon Huff, basically engineered the "Philly Soul" sound of the 60's and 70's that I LOVE. The O'Jays, The Delfonics, The Stylistics...the list goes on & on. While most of the disco stuff has become novelty and pieces for the time capsule, Philly soul still sounds great. Bob NP: Prince, "now" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 07:31:19 -0600 From: Kate Subject: funeral soundtrack I was at a funeral yesterday where music liked by the young man in question was played, and I thought -- but only for a moment -- about what should be played at my funeral. It was all Joni, of course, because although I like a wide variety of music, hers is the only stuff that touches me as deeply, as profoundly, and as constantly over the long-term of my life so far. It is definitely the soundtrack of my life. So while I am thinking about which songs I would choose to play for about a 45-minute loop (while people were entering the chapel, if my relatives chose to do that to themselves [funerals are ordeals for the family, aren't they?]), I wonder what others would choose. While I am sure this topic has been covered before onlist, are there any takers? Kate du Nord for sure Black Crow would be on it <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Letter Out is a journal whatnot sent via email whenever I have time and inclination. Receive it automatically by replying to this email with "Subscribe" in the Subject box. To unsubscribe, put "Unsubscribe" in the subject box. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:11:12 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: today in bobbie gentry history - njc Bob wrote: >The third of June >Today Billy Joe MacAllister jumped off the Tallahatchee bridge And didn't he jump because he thought he was gay? I'm just going by the movie with Robbie Benson. :>) I wonder if that's what she intended when she wrote the song. Kerry NP - Lucinda Williams - Essence (great song!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 09:46:26 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc Yes. I remember the television movie based on the song hinting that. Quite daring for its time. And speaking of crushes, Mr. Benson fluttered a few young men's hearts in his time. Jerry kerry wrote: > Bob wrote: > > >The third of June > > >Today Billy Joe MacAllister jumped off the Tallahatchee bridge > > And didn't he jump because he thought he was gay? I'm just going by the > movie with Robbie Benson. :>) I wonder if that's what she intended when she > wrote the song. > > Kerry > > NP - Lucinda Williams - Essence (great song!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 08:11:17 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: LA Times Surprised to have not seen an on-list mention of the photo of Joni in yesterday's LA Times (first section), in an article on Toronto's Walk of Fame. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:06:42 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc Regarding Billy Joe MacAllister, Kerry asks: << And didn't he jump because he thought he was gay? I'm just going by the movie with Robbie Benson. :>) I wonder if that's what she intended when she wrote the song. >> I can see throwing Robbie Benson off the Tallahatchie bridge, but not because of his sexuality! The song never says what was thrown off the bridge. But what would the singer and Billy Joe have been throwing off the bridge if he had been questioning his sexuality? His pocketbook? A Damron guide? His gay membership card? When the song came out -- in simpler times, when everyone would discuss something like this for months -- I remember that people most often used to guess that they were throwing a miscarried or aborted fetus, some kind of birth control pills or device or drugs from the bridge. And if Bobbie Gentry ever knew what was chucked over the bridge, I don't think she ever told. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:10:11 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc In a message dated 6/4/2002 12:07:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Murphycopy@aol.com writes: > The song never says what was thrown off the bridge. But what would the > singer > and Billy Joe have been throwing off the bridge if he had been questioning > his sexuality? His pocketbook? A Damron guide? LOL, I doubt a Damron guide would list "things to do" on Choctaw Ridge let alone the entire state of Mississippi. In the movie it was his girlfriend's ragdoll, but the song leaves you guessing, and you're right Bob, Ms. Gentry keeps her silence to this day. I remember when our local radio station voted "Ode to Billy Joe" the worst song of '67 or '68. Murphy, you started all of this ;~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 10:14:54 -0700 (PDT) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc > When the song came out -- in simpler times, when everyone would discuss > something like this for months -- I remember that people most often used to > guess that they were throwing a miscarried or aborted fetus, That's what I always thought... But Bobbie Gentry probably had nothing specific in mind, and decided the song would be more interesting with the mystery. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:13:27 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc Jimmy writes: << Murphy, you started all of this ;~) >> I couldn't help myself, Jimmy. I was the third of June . . . XO, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:47:07 -0500 From: Subject: Attention, Bay Area JMDLers! (NJC) To all JMDLers in the San Francisco Bay area: It is looking increasingly likely that I will be at a long training seminar in Oakland, CA from June 20-30 (in about two weeks!). I may also try to add a few vacation days the following week, the first of July, to prolong my stay there. Anyone up for a get-together: Mary Grace? Julius? Jim J.? Darice?? I'd love to meet you all/meet you all again! Let me know, Mary P., - --on the lam from Madison, WI for just a little while. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:54:44 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Dog Eat Dog reality TV - njc I saw a promo for a new NBC show coming up this month called Dog Eat Dog. What's next? Lesson in Survival? --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:00:57 EDT From: Monafitz@aol.com Subject: The food thang NJC Tofu People: With all this tofu talk....tofu - firm....tofu - soft....tofu pups....I take it that there will be a plethora of carcinogens AKA strawberry, chocolate, carmel, whipped cream to go on my tofutti ice scream at the fest??? Only members who consistently share my love of the five food groups CAKE/PIE ,CANDY, COOKIES, CHIPS & ICE CREAM need respond. Gotta run and get some candy corn for dinner. Cheers, Mona Mona L. Fitzgerald monafitz@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:04:06 -0500 From: "brian symes" Subject: Joni and the web To discover more Joni Trivia I typed in two words "whisker wheat" and sure enough the search engine came up with jmdl.com / Lyrics/ coyote ! Then I always wanted to know exactly what a "kick pleat skirt" was and sure enough Amazon .com is selling them for $ 16.00 Hanging ten on my keyboard, good bye its 12:59 and back to work. Brian Symes - -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 17:9:58 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Renewed Byrds/Andrew Gold (njc) Yeah, it sort of sounds like a dream gig...too bad its just a "for fun" thing and there's no money in it...I'd move to California in a heartbeat if I could come up with 49 reasons all in a row(and a job and a place to stay)... Victor > i had the very same thought kakki, ....we'll be saying victor, victor, > remember me? remember when we used to jam together? victor, can you put our > name in on the guest list? > > lol, go for it victor! > - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:33:53 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Renewed Byrds/Andrew Gold (njc) apply anyway...jest fer fun... "the moment one definately commits oneself then Providence moves too...all manner of unforseen incidents and meetings and material assistance..." Goethe >>Yeah, it sort of sounds like a dream gig...too bad its just a "for fun" thing and there's no money in it...I'd move to California in a heartbeat if I could come up with 49 reasons all in a row(and a job and a place to stay)... Victor<<< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 22:23:23 +0000 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re FTR for the first time >>Apart from that, I was able to listen to FTR for the first time through good headphones and a quality source and I have to say that I was really impressed by the album.>> Putting on indignant voice "Sir, you misunderstand me!" No, Lama, it is not the first time I had heard FTR, but it WAS the first time I had heard it through good 'phones and a CD quality source. I have to admit it was quite like hearing it for the first time but I have heard it many times before, never as clean as this though. Thanks for the DVD info BTW. mike in bcn NP Paris, Texas  Ry Cooder - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:32:37 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: december 1 - njc well for one thing it's bette midler's birthday. i celebrate that every year! patrick np - monteverdi >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of >Catherine McKay >Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:09 PM >To: anne@sandstrom.com; chiaroscuro@snet.net >Cc: Murphycopy@aol.com; joni@smoe.org >Subject: RE: today in bobbie gentry history - njc > > >--- anne@sandstrom.com wrote: >> OK, I'll play. What's December 1? >> > >I thought I knew, then realized I was thinking of >December 31. Does anyone know what day that is (apart >from New Year's Eve, that is?) > >______________________________________________________________________ >Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:41:9 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: pop dates(njc) Okay...here's an obscure one Who knows the answer??? 24th of May Victor NP:__________ - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:47:04 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Fwd: Cat Haikus (njc) >Cat Haikus > >You never feed me. >Perhaps I'll sleep on your face. >That will sure show you. > >You must scratch me there! >Yes, above my tail! >Behold, elevator butt. > >The rule for today >Touch my tail, I shred your hand. >New rule tomorrow. > >In deep sleep hear sound >Cat vomit, hairball somewhere >Will find in morning. > >Grace personified. >I leap into the window. >I meant to do that. > >Blur of motion, then >silence, me, a paper bag. >What is so funny? > >The mighty hunter >Returns with gifts of plump birds >Your foot just squashed one. > >You're always typing. >Well, let's see you ignore my >sitting on your hands. > >My small cardboard box. >You cannot see me if I >can just hide my head. > >Terrible battle. >I fought for hours. Come and see! >What's a 'term paper'? > >Cat likes plastic >Confuses for litter box >Don't leave tarp around > >Small brave carnivores >Kill pine cones and mosquitoes >Fear vacuum cleaner > >I want to be close to you. >Can I fit my head >inside your armpit? > >Wanna go outside. >Oh, no! Help! I got outside! >Let me back inside! > >Oh no! Big One >has been trapped by newspaper! >Cat to the rescue! > >Humans are so strange. >Mine lies still in bed, then screams >My claws are not that sharp. > >Cats cry out of angst >"Thumbs! If only we had thumbs! >We could break so much!" > >Litter box not here >You must have moved it again >I'll crap in the sink > >The Big Ones snore now >Every room is dark and cold >Time for "Cup Hockey" > >We're almost equals >I purr to show I love you >Want to smell my butt? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:56:21 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: pop dates(njc) In a message dated 6/4/02 6:42:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, waytoblu@mindspring.com writes: > Okay...here's an obscure one > > Who knows the answer??? > > 24th of May > > Blue Oyster Cult's "The Revenge of Vera Gemini" You planned to leave me cold But you'll never get your wish On the 24th of May I'll gather up your reins Okay, what do I win Victor??? A carrot piccolo :~D Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:23:39 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: pop dates(njc) That's very good but I'm thinking of a different song played with different strings(hint hint) Victor Blue Oyster Cult's "The Revenge of Vera Gemini" You planned to leave me cold But you'll never get your wish On the 24th of May I'll gather up your reins Okay, what do I win Victor??? A carrot piccolo :~D Jimmy --- Victor Johnson--- waytoblu@mindspring.com"Roses wait for the springtime,They sleep beneath the ground.They hear March winds a callin'For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:38:16 -0400 From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: pop dates(njc) How did you know I'd been thinking about this song lately, Victor? The band is Rush, the song is "Lakeside Park." They're on tour this summer. I'll be checkin' them out. It's a Canadian band...I'm thinking that date must be some kind of Canadian holiday. Everyone will gather On the 24th of May Gathered in the sands To watch the fireworks displaaay Dancing fires on the beach Singing songs together Though it's just a memory Some memories last forever. Lakeside Park Willows in the breeze Lakeside Park So many memories... - -Julius In a message dated Tue, 4 Jun 2002 6:42:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, waytoblu@mindspring.com writes: > Okay...here's an obscure one > > Who knows the answer??? > > 24th of May > > Victor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:42:40 EDT From: KLCass21@aol.com Subject: Joni on DVD In case anyone is interested, the Shadows & Light DVD (import) is available from Collector's Choice Music. They are asking $49.95, about $8 more than Barnes & Noble. For anyone who is still contemplating this purchase, it is well worth the price, especially if you have home theater. www.collectorschoicemusic.com If anyone knows of the "Refuge of the Roads" '83 tour on DVD, please let me know. My VHS tape is fading fast and I have not seen it in stores in quite some time. Thanks, Kurt NP: Joni's BYT - Tribal Dub ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:7:11 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: pop dates(njc) Yeah, they're playing in Raleigh on the 4th of July...I bet it will be a night to remember. I might go if I can find someone to go with. Victor They're on tour this summer. I'll be checkin' them out. It's a Canadian band...I'm thinking that date must be some kind of Canadian holiday. > > - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:53:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: pop dates(njc) - --- JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > How did you know I'd been thinking about this song > lately, Victor? The band is Rush, the song is > "Lakeside Park." They're on tour this summer. I'll > be checkin' them out. It's a Canadian band...I'm > thinking that date must be some kind of Canadian > holiday. > > Everyone will gather > On the 24th of May > Gathered in the sands > To watch the fireworks displaaay > Dancing fires on the beach > Singing songs together The 24th of May is Victoria Day, celebrated in Canada with a long weekend (now moved to the Monday before the 24th unless the 24th falls on Monday, that is) and fireworks. Oh, and beer. It is also called the May Two-Four weekend (a Two-Four is Canadian for a case of beer - 24 beers to a case.) ______________________________________________________________________ Movies, Music, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:08:39 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: today in bobbie gentry history - njc Conjecture for sure but I don't and never felt that this tune and the words therein were anything even remotely related to that film and the message that it portrayed. Personally, the song always touched me somewhere inside because I felt as if I was living it somehow. The hot sun beating down on the South (another day going by and it, like the next, is nothing but another day), the farm and the life that one lives on that farm, the idiosyncrasies involved in living deep in the country (far away from anyone else), someone is in trouble. Hard to explain but I would imagine that all Southern rural people felt it too. As for the flick and Robbie Benson jumping off of the bridge; well, being in that predicament in a place like that and in that day and age, then off the bridge would probably be the place to go. Down here (in the Protestant churches) it is taught that being homosexual is nothing less than the worst one can be, akin to bestiality and the such. Hated the movie but did enjoy, very much, Glynnis O'Connor's portrayal. She very much reminded me of my high school girlfriend, that I set free as to not put her through that, anymore than I already had. Could not let her waste any more time, passion, or love on me, knowing that I could never return it to her. Teenage angst, homosexual teenage angst; wanting to, trying so hard but knowing that it would never come. And it never could. Interesting that Gentry has never said one way or the other. mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:10:02 -0700 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Re: Attention, Bay Area JMDLers! (NJC) I'd be psyched to get together! Please keep me in the loop on your availability, Mary. It would be great to see Mary Grace, too, if we can pry her away from her Taylor Ham sandwich long enough for the get-together. :-) Then there's Jim, Walter, Darice and you know there may be more... - -Julius > To all JMDLers in the San Francisco Bay area: > > It is looking increasingly likely that I will be at a long training seminar in Oakland, CA from June 20-30 (in about two weeks!). I may also try to add a few vacation days the following week, the first of July, to prolong my stay there. > > Anyone up for a get-together: Mary Grace? Julius? Jim J.? Darice?? > > I'd love to meet you all/meet you all again! > > Let me know, > > Mary P., > --on the lam from Madison, WI for just a little while. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:26:21 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Renewed Byrds (njc) Flipping the channels around last night and Crosby was on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher, along with Dr. Helen Caldicott and former MTV vj Kennedy. They were talking about nuclear weapons, India and Pakistan, and nuclear waste. It was a good one. RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:17:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: pop dates(njc) - --- JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > How did you know I'd been thinking about this song lately, Victor? > The band is Rush, the song is "Lakeside Park." They're on tour this > summer. I'll be checkin' them out. It's a Canadian band...I'm > thinking that date must be some kind of Canadian holiday. > > > >Right you are Julius, it is indeed a Canadian holiday...Queen Victoria's birthday is celebrated that weekend or thereabouts...depending on the calendar of course. And that is the weekend that people traditionally open up their cottages and such ... and plant gardens, however, this year, we are still waiting for summer to happen. *sigh* Mags ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:39:15 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: dancing to architecture << Writing about music, Mitchell reportedly once scoffed, is "like dancing to architecture.">> This is from an article Les has put online at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980604sdu.cfm. It was written by David Codden for the San Diego Union-Tribune during Joni's Dylan/Morrison tour in '98. God, I love some of the things she says. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:43:10 -0400 From: "Heather" Subject: Papa Was A Rolling Stone - njc about this song, Papa Was a Rolling Stone ... i haven't seen the actual printed lyrics but i always like the line "all he left us was alone". or i like to think of it as "all he left us was a loan". in either case, it works in the song. heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Gerald McNamara Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:23 AM To: joni@smoe.org Cc: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: RE: today in bobbie gentry history - njc > OK, I'll play. What's December 1? well I'm sitting over her in digest mode, and the answer's probably already come in and I haven't realised it yet, but..... I reckon it was the "day that my daddy died", from Papa Was A Rolling Stone . - -Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 22:06:35 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: dancing to architecture Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > << Writing about music, Mitchell reportedly once scoffed, is "like dancing to > architecture.">> > Shouldn't it be "dancing ABOUT architecture"? Jerry Garcia and others have made this or similar comments. Wonder where this came from originally.... RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 02:07:11 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: dancing to architecture i think the original quote is "writing about music is like dancing about architecture" and i think joni stole it (as she so often does) from nietsche. usually she gives him credit, though. i hate the comment, though, whether it's from joni, jerry garcia, or nietsche. i think, at the minimum, it displays ignorance about the possibilities of dancing. as a visual art, dancing is actually well-suited to be "about" architecture, and several choreographers i'm familiar with have done fantastic work creating dances about architecture. george balanchine's 50's neoclassical ballets reflected the edgyness of new york life then, including the agressive expansion of its skyline. lar lubovitch in the '80s made a dance called 'big shoulders', a tribute to his home town chicago, that truly did reflect its architecture. and mark morris' dance 'marble halls' brilliantly drew the connections between bach's musical structures and the baroque architecture of bach's era. and you know, there ARE more. furthermore, i think nietsche's statement is perverse in its avoidance of the fact that art is always searching to describe what's outside of itself. does joni think writing should only be about writing? does she write music that's only about music? is poetry about love lame because it's not actually love? of course not, but neitsche and joni miss that point. i'm a little more angry with joni, because i find the comment self-serving. she was unhappy with the writing about her music at that point, so she devalues all of it, and not even with her own words. it's a bit childish, and for someone who has a pretty good eye and ear for art, a little tone-deaf-and-blind. i've never read proust, but i understand his writing about music is sublime. i've read both fiction and non-fiction about music made my heart sing. i know it's out there, good writing about music. and i hope to see more good dancing about architecture. i feel a little sorry for joni if she can't read and see the those joys. patrick, end mild rant >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Randy >Remote >Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:07 AM >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: dancing to architecture > > >Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > >> << Writing about music, Mitchell reportedly once scoffed, is >"like dancing to >> architecture.">> >> > >Shouldn't it be "dancing ABOUT architecture"? Jerry Garcia and >others have made this or similar comments. Wonder where this came >from originally.... >RR ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #241 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?