From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #229 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, May 27 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 229 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: May 26 [les@jmdl.com] Words relating music and diatribes (njc) [Kay Ashley ] Re: British Columbia songs ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Bush and Putin in a Blue Motel Room - NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] (njc)My health -- long and detailed, more than you probably want to know. [BigWaltinSF@aol.c] Re: Jim 1, virus 0 [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Jim 1, virus 0 [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: (njc)My health -- long and detailed, more than you probably want to know. ["Grace" ] putin bush njc ["Grace" ] Bjork Invites Fans To Choose Tracklisting For Her 'Greatest Hits' Album! njc [Lazyasz@ao] Pat Benatar [Michael Paz ] Sharon??? [juancito@juno.com] Re: Sharon??? ["Mark or Travis" ] re: ani on bob and joni [Gerald McNamara ] Re: Sharon??? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: (njc)My health -- long and detailed, more than you probably want to know. [BigWaltinSF@a] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 03:01:19 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: May 26 On May 26 the following items were published: 1968: "Separating Pop From Pap" - New York Times (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/680526nyt.cfm 1998: "Dylan, Morrison and Mitchell in Total Control" - Orange County Register (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980526ocr.cfm 2000: "A Jazzy Take On Joni" - New Orleans Times-Picayune (Concert Preview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000526no.cfm 2000: "Joni Mitchell brings folk back to Detroit" - Detroit News (Concert Preview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000526dn.cfm 2000: "Joni Mitchell to open hometown art show" - Jam! Website (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000526j.cfm - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 03:54:01 -0400 From: Kay Ashley Subject: Words relating music and diatribes (njc) Hello people! David Lahm, thank you so much for your kind words -- that's a wonderful compliment and it means a whole fecking lot to me, especially coming from you! :-) There's a new Bob (new to me...) who responded to my diatribe... hello new Bob :-) ... actually, last fall I DID get an ulcer, which I attribute entirely to post-9/11 stress, hence my tendency now to totally NOT hold back on my feelings, which I think you picked up on... ;-) And Lama, oh yeah, I know where the guy's (DICK Cheney, that is [heheheh, she said DICK, heheheheh]) coming from, but it don't mean I have to like it! I just recently started subscribing to The Nation, which I would highly recommend to anyone who cares about getting real information, but real information combined with my natural cynicism has created a sometimes explosive combination, and I get to the point where I just can't help myself. I'm gonna turn into one of those subway crazies, you know, arguing with the empty spaces beside me (and above me and behind me) and rampaging at perfect strangers about politics. I figure random outbursts on the JMDL are a great way to start... Hey, it's late and I'm feeling punchy, so I better sign off before another diatribe siezes me... :-) Kay np: sirens on the street ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:46:10 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bush and Putin in a Blue Motel Room - NJC <> No, this was what Rose's husband was calling me in NYC, much to my chagrin. The name itself is from a cartoon character. As for posts, AOL is denying me the same ones, Bob, so don't get paranoid, but it DOES piss me off. Luckily it's only a few, but it's still a pain in the tush. I can do my own "deletes"! ;~) PS: I listened to the Sedaris audio, and found it very moving. I could easily visualize the whole scene knowing exactly where he was going from his parents' house in North Hills to Lisa's place at NC State. Bob NP: Sweet Honey In The Rock, "The Circle Game" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:53:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: British Columbia songs <> I was listening to the '95 New Orleans show last night and the intro to "Magdalene Laundries" describes how she wrote the music on the BC coast (I know you've heard the story...) Anyway, one of the points of the story was that (like FTR) writing in BC & surrounded by its beauty inspired a beautiful melody which turned dark only when she saw the headline about the Magdalene Laundries in the news while grocery shopping. So I think there's some truth in the notion that this part of the world inspires 'truth & beauty' from Joni. I love this version of the story because she does these bird imitations that just crack me up! Bob NP: Mary Chapin-Carpenter/Shawn Colvin, "Amelia" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 09:21:56 -0400 From: "S.M. Roque" Subject: Re: Warren, Sam, Jack Sherman writes: >"I have heard not only did she date Warren Beatty and Jack Nicholson, >but >SAME SITUATION is about Beatty! (for what it's worth)" I really enjoy this talk of Joni's "loves" and what songs are probably directed to ex beaux and buddies...I found a photo of Warren "...tethered to a ringing telephone..." at http://www.warrenbeattyfanpage.homestead.com/photos2.html the page also has a few shots of WB and Jack, but none of WB and our Joan Sylvia http://forums.delphiforums.com/JoniMitchell/messages?msg=61.2 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 07:25:53 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: British Columbia songs ><> >"Magdalene Laundries" describes how she wrote the music on the BC coast (I >know you've heard the story...) Anyway, one of the points of the story was >that (like FTR) writing in BC & surrounded by its beauty inspired a >beautiful >melody which turned dark only when she saw the headline about the Magdalene >Laundries in the news while grocery shopping. Yeah, she describes writing/her inspiration for ML.. too, in that MuchMusic interview. Her caretaker suggested that she try writing in the day light hours for a change, nightowl that she is. So she sat out on a rock,gulls were swooping, sun was shining.....and the rest, as they say, is history. Banquet..... obviously. What else? Bree >Bob > >NP: Mary Chapin-Carpenter/Shawn Colvin, "Amelia" _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 10:46:08 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bush and Putin in a Blue Motel Room - NJC Regarding "SpongeBob Squarepants," Bob writes: << this was what Rose's husband was calling me in NYC, much to my chagrin. The name itself is from a cartoon character. >> You were being called a name from a cartoon character? How sick is that! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 15:51:08 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc)My health -- long and detailed, more than you probably want to know. In a message dated 5/12/02 11:00:17 AM, AsharaJM writes: << Thanks, guys. I just found out today that i may have toxoplasmosis in my brain, which would explain my walking like a drunk and not being able to think of words all the time -- or there may be a brain tumor. >> Walt, This is TERRIBLE news!!! I am really concerned for you. Please keep me posted. Sending you lots of healing energy. >> Ashara -- thanks, belated, for the healing energy. They were able to rule out toxo, but two days after a CT (cat scan) was unable to find any evidence of a brain [pause for laughter and applause], my neurologist ordered an MRI [the technologist, a sweet young guy, asked if I'd had one before; I said no; he asked if I had any questions; I said "since this test uses magnetic waves, will I be inclined to turn north when I leave the building?"; he examined my face carefully to see if I was kidding; I said, "I mean, am i gonna walk to Sausalito or something?"; finally he smiled and said it was best if i stopped when i got to the piers in the Marina.] If the MRI fails to locate a brain, they'll probably resort to sticking a microscope in my ear -- my fear is that it will fall in and come out my mouth. Okay, enough kidding -- all of this will probably result in their ruling out brain tumor(s), micro-strokes, abscess(es) or whatever other horror they can think up. What started all this was the fact that I suddenly started crashing into walls when I tried walking without meticulously planning it out -- I crashed into walls *particularly* in my own home -- I walk more carefully outside, just like most people do -- so now at home I walk like Mr. Burns on the Simpsons, leaning forward with hands extended. The nerves on my right hand and foot are pretty much gone, and the nerves on the left extremities are nearly so -- this was caused by years on toxic drugs to keep me alive. So now, I've dropped one of the antivirals, and with any luck, the nerves will sloooooowly come back over the next 2-5 years, or my body will find a way around the dead nerves with other nerves, with similar results. My past experience is that the sense of feeling comes back faster than they warn you; they're told to be pessimists. What concerns my neurologist is not the extreme neuropathy, but its asymmetry; ironically, I wasn't even *aware* of this asymmetry -- I was concerned about my occasional fogginess -- inability to think of extremely common nouns and verbs (technically: transient dysphasia) when speaking, which was unbelievably irritating, even frightening, for someone like me -- I mean, I've never been strong or good-looking, my mind is all I have. Anybody else would have been alarmed by wall-crashing and phantom bruises, but no, not me, I freak out when I can't think of the word "twine". So, now I'm waiting to hear if they've found a brain yet -- the MRI is more detailed and newer, so it may be a week before I hear from them. Anyone who wants -- I'll keep you posted. Oh, and I have every intention of attending the Joni-fest -- Anne has to teach the songwriting workshop, and I have to take it, if either or both of us has to be rolled in. Love, and thanks for everyone's concerns and well wishes, Walt Breen in SF ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 17:16:32 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jim 1, virus 0 In a message dated 5/26/02 5:02:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jimjohanson@mindspring.com writes: > And Jim's viral load is, the envelope please... > > U-N-D-E-T-E-C-T-A-B-L-E !!!!! > Jim This is fecking FANTASTIC! I'm ecstatic for you. Keep up the good work, oh and Andrew, hugs and kudos to you. Thanks for taking good care of my pal. much love, rose ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 17:37:03 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Jim 1, virus 0 > In a message dated 5/26/02 5:02:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jimjohanson@mindspring.com writes: > > > > And Jim's viral load is, the envelope please... > > > > U-N-D-E-T-E-C-T-A-B-L-E !!!!! > Alright Cha Cha heels ( Jim's nickname in Toronto :~) ) That's the best news I've heard in a long long time. I'm so happy for you Jim. Now you get on the phone to Joni's manager and arrange a big party in your honor. You've done such a great job with JoniMitchell.com, and I just know that Wally B. is up there smiling smiling smiling. xoxo Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:08:01 +0100 From: "Grace" Subject: Re: (njc)My health -- long and detailed, more than you probably want to know. Walt, dear, it matters not if they find a brain. They will certainly find a heart and that is all that counts. grace xoxoxo - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 22/05/02 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 15:27:32 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Missed posts - NJC Bob and Rose, I used to have the same problem on AOL. But lately I've been missing some posts, too. Maybe there's a gremlin in the works somewhere! Kakki > Yikes! Why am I *still* on AOL? > > Lately AOL seems to be withholding (or deleting or rerouting or shredding or > dancing on or whatever they do) at least a couple of JMDL posts from my > mailbox every day. One other JMDLer is having the same problem, I know, when > he checks his mail after figure skating. Are there any other AOL people this > is happening to? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:14:02 +0100 From: "Grace" Subject: putin bush njc i am thrilled by the news that putin and bush have agreed that they should reduce their bombs enough to only destroy us all a few times instead of many. . at least i think that is what they did. i really should try not to light up when watching the news. it gets all confused. i know the news people seemed very happy with the news but i can't help feeling i missed something. concentration is well...um... grace - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 22/05/02 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 19:27:54 EDT From: Lazyasz@aol.com Subject: Bjork Invites Fans To Choose Tracklisting For Her 'Greatest Hits' Album! njc Good news for all the Bjork Fans out there! BjC6rk invited fans to choose their favourite tracks of her career so far, the chosen tracks will then be included on her as yet untitled bGreatest Hitsb album, due for release this September. The webvote will commence at 13:00 GMT, Monday May 27th and will be open to fans for one week only. The host of the webvote will be Bjorkbs official website: www.bjork.com/vote The voter who comes closest to the final tracklisting (which will be chosen by a calculation of the votes) will win a bag of Bjork goodies consisting of the bGreatest Hitsb album and the forthcoming Royal Opera House DVD. This webvote @ bjork.com will commence at 12:00 GMT, Monday May 27th and will be open for one week only. - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Second good news: FAMILY TREE IS CONFIRMED! BjC6rk has also decided to release a bFamily Treeb box set. This will include a small selection of her own favourite, roots, strings and beats tracks, some of which have never been previously released......!!! These were my ten: 01. My Snare 02. One Day 03. Sun In My Mouth 04. Undo 05. Hidden Place 06. Harm Of Will 07. The Modern Things 08. Generous Palmstroke 09. It's Not Up To You 10. GlC3ra These were my top ten singles: 01. Alarm Call 02. All Is Full Of Love 03. Big Time Sensuality 04. It's Oh So Quiet 05. JC3ga 06. Play Dead 07. Hidden Place 08. Hunter 09. Army of Me 10. I Miss You Also guys, you can vote now, so go and do your duty Peace & Deeper Understanding, Damien ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 20:16:36 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Pat Benatar Hello Gang and Happy Memorial Day Weekend- I am feeling a little odd not having any festivals or any gigs to do this weekend, but that's a good thing. My body is finally feeling like mine again. After I dug the debris out of my car (a month of gigs) I realized I have two copies of a Pat Benatar and Neil Giraldo CD called "Summer Vacation 2001" Live. This was handed out to the guests at the WE (Womens Entertainment) show that I did with Pat and Neil a few weeks ago. It is a two CD set and I am sure will be a nice collectors item for any Pat and Neil fans. I will mail out these two to the first two people who respond with their mailing addresses. Hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend. Love Paz NP-Madman Across The Water-Govt' Mule Live Orpheum Theater New Orleans 5-5-01 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 20:14:01 -0700 From: juancito@juno.com Subject: Sharon??? While we're discussing subjects of Joni's songs, anybody know who "Sharon" is on Song for Sharon? Have a safe Memorial Day, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 18:38:55 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Sharon??? ??? > While we're discussing subjects of Joni's songs, anybody know who > "Sharon" is on Song for Sharon? > > Have a safe Memorial Day, > > Jim > A friend of Joni's named Sharon Bell. I think a childhood friend. Maybe somebody else knows more details. Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 1:44:41 UTC From: Gerald McNamara Subject: re: ani on bob and joni on Bob Dylan's birthday, "flopit" wrote: > >transcript of an mp3 i just downloaded under the impression that it was an >ani & joni duet... ...snip... >um,speciually not in my line of work, but um hhhuu,,its funny because bob >was never really, he was never really a deity for me, any where near the >way, the scope, which joni,mitchell was ( audience cheer!!), and i, and i, >you know, i think that respecting his work, and respecting,him, is a, is a >good idea,and uh, i think hes done quite a few cool things, but, um its >funny to me how it seems like, where i come from, in the states, the canon >of bob, seems to be going deeper and richer and, more engrained in my >culture, every day, and joni, seems to be sort of systematically ,,,, >forgotten, and periodically condescended to by the media, in the states, > .........etc, etc > maybe Ani DiFranco has said something similar at other times, but I'm pretty sure that this is a recording of her performance at Port Fairy Folk Festival in Australia in March 1998, broadcast nationwide on radio by the ABC. It was Ani's first tour here and she really shook up the folkie crowd, with many walking out disgusted (mostly at Ani's language onstage). Each time she cursed, more people would leave the tent, enabling delighted fans to get closer to the stage. I thought it was most amusing that Ani was happy to endure the difficulties of re-tuning her guitar, and could justify the agonies of doing so, based on having seen Joni go through the same agony with her own tunings. -Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 22:41:40 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sharon??? In a message dated 5/26/2002 9:43:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, mark.travis@gte.net writes: > A friend of Joni's named Sharon Bell. I think a childhood friend. Maybe > somebody else knows more details. > What I know is that Sharon & Joni were childhood friends in Maidstone in Canada. As kids do, they talked about their dreams...Sharon would talk of some day becoming a famous singer, while Joni would dream of the quiet life on the farm. As fate would have it, of course, the two ended up with careers in reverse, Sharon settling down on the farm with her family, like the song says. Although she did have a brief musical career, recording at least one record which contained a cover of Both Sides Now. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 01:13:21 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc)My health -- long and detailed, more than you probably want to know. In a message dated 5/26/02 4:04:31 PM, Grace@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk writes: << Walt, dear, it matters not if they find a brain. They will certainly find a heart and that is all that counts. grace xoxoxo >> Thank you, Grace! I'm lucky to have either -- and so many friends! xoxox, Walt ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #229 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?