From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #218 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, May 16 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 218 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: May 15 [les@jmdl.com] Today in History: May 15 [les@jmdl.com] Funeral songs - NJC ["hell" ] Re: "Electricity" What's it all about? ["hell" ] Re: Funeral songs - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: "Electricity" What's it all about? [anne@sandstrom.com] =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFJlOiAiRWxlY3RyaWNpdHkiIKBXaGF0J3MgaXQgYWxs IGFib3V0Pw==?= [SCJoniGuy@] Re: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Music for the Dead, NJC ["Laurent Olszer" ] "Electricity" What's it all about? ["J.David Sapp" ] Re: re:electricity [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] re:electricity ["Victor Johnson" ] Paul Westerberg njc [Les Irvin ] RE: Desafinado or ... (flippant JC) njc [ReckersL@ebrd.com] Re: Paul Westerberg njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: funeral song/art exhibit [WARREN901@aol.com] Re: input-output-electricity [WARREN901@aol.com] Re: Re: input-output-electricity [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #217 -- Joni not at the Whitney [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: input-output-electricity - njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] NJC Re: Re: input-output-electricity - njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] natalie imbruglia sjc [LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk] NJC Re: natalie imbruglia sjc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni in Fiction [john low ] Re: natalie imbruglia njc [Vince Lavieri ] RE: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc ["patrick leader" ] RE: electricity, now last chance texaco - njc, really ["patrick leader" <] Re: Joni in Fiction [Murphycopy@aol.com] tragically hip? - njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] RE: tragically hip? - njc ["Chris Marshall" ] RE: tragically hip? - njc [Mags N Brei ] Re: Joni in Film ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: tragically hip? - njc [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Funeral songs - NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc ["Kakki" ] Re: tragically hip? - njc ["Kakki" ] Re: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc ["Victor Johnson" ] NJC a friend of mine was found dead today ["James Phillips" Subject: Funeral songs - NJC Hmmmm...... interesting thread! I can't say I've given this a great deal of thought, although I know I want Joni played (obviously)! But I don't want a traditional funeral - far too depressing. I'd rather everyone just had a big party, and say a few words if they want to, or just drink! Damn, that's one party that I won't get to go to! I guess Tiger Bones would be a good one (one of my favourites) and probably Hejira: "I know no one's going to show me everything, We all come and go unknown, Each so deep and superficial, Between the forceps and the stone." Kind of morbid, I guess, but it is my favourite Joni song! I'd also like A Case Of You (from BSN) and probably one more, but I can't decide between Amelia and River. Oh, the hell with it, let's just have them both! I thought about "Urge For Going" but it might be taken the wrong way..... Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:30:47 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: "Electricity" What's it all about? Bob wrote: > < She's not going to fix it up too easy>> > > Here's an interesting metaphor...who's her "technical manual"? Myrtle, her > mother? Or a close friend? Or a professional therapist? Regardless of who it > is specifically, the person is not too receptive to being the resource that > Joni hopes she would be. That was a great analysis, Bob - and pretty much how I've always interpreted the song. But I do have another interpretation of the lines above. I always thought "the technical manual's busy" meant that it was busy, as in too fussy, or too convoluted for her to make sense of it. In other words, she's got a huge amount of advice about how to conduct herself in the relationship, and she can't decide which advice is best. Just another take on the song, but you know there may be more..... probably as many as there are members of this list, at least! Hell P.S. Welcome, Matt! ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 08:28:11 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Funeral songs - NJC hell wrote: > Hmmmm...... interesting thread! I can't say I've given this a great deal of > thought, although I know I want Joni played (obviously)! But I don't want a > traditional funeral - far too depressing. I'd rather everyone just had a big > party, and say a few words if they want to, or just drink! Damn, that's one > party that I won't get to go to! > > I guess Tiger Bones would be a good one (one of my favourites) We played Tiger Bones in memory of Wally at Pazfest while candles were lit. It was perfect. Tiber Bones has been described by some as a throwaway selection, but like helly, it is one of my favorites, also. Jerry np: BYT - from my new ebay bargain, Outfest "99, for 99 cents! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 05:28:32 -0700 (PDT) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: "Electricity" What's it all about? > < She's not going to fix it up too easy>> > > Here's an interesting metaphor...who's her "technical manual"? Myrtle, her > mother? Or a close friend? Or a professional therapist? Regardless of who it > is specifically, the person is not too receptive to being the resource that > Joni hopes she would be. Here's another weird take on these lines. I always thought the way she sings them was interesting, with the syllable "man" being extended. So, I always thought she was saying that he (the minus) was busy, but that she couldn't quite bring herself to say that he was too busy to pay attention to her, so she says "manual," which could also mean she relies on him for doing the repairs. But, then reading Bob's interpretations below, I think that makes sense too. > > < And she shines it on me > She wants me to tell her > What the trouble might be>> > > So now rather than getting the desired advise from whoever the "technical > manual" may be, they are turning the tables and asking her to define the > problem. This leads me to believe that the "technical manual" is a > professional, who's trained to ask those kind of questions..."so how did that > make you FEEL", etc. ... > < Too easy > But she holds out her candle > And she shines it in > And she begs him to show her > How to fix it again>> > > Like you would light a candle to provide a minimum amount of light during a > blackout, she shines a candlelight into the "blackout" of the relationship. > Coincidentally, candles are also considered romantic, so she could be trying > to symbolize the re-introduction of the romance. > Then again, she's asking HIM for advice, so maybe he is the technical manual. Ah, Joni is never easy :-) lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 08:31:53 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFJlOiAiRWxlY3RyaWNpdHkiIKBXaGF0J3MgaXQgYWxs IGFib3V0Pw==?= <> Excellent point, Hell! It also can be taken a bit more literally than I originally did, and she could be referring to an actual document, like in "Lesson For Survival": "Guru Books, The Bible, only remind you that you're not good enough" Thanks for the thoughts...you know I HATE it when you lurk. ;~) Bob NP: Joan Osborne, "Let's Just Get Naked" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 08:40:51 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc <> 'Deed I do! I loved all four of those 'bonus tracks' on that little 45 included with the double LP: Ebony Eyes Easy Goin' Evening (my fave of the lot, LOVE that harmonica!) Saturn All Day Sucker And a bit o' trivia...cowriter of Saturn was Michael Sembello, who scored a hit with "Maniac" in the 80's from Flashdance, I think. Bob NP: Joan Osborne, "Crazy Baby" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 13:57:47 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Music for the Dead, NJC On the subject of funeral music, I remember visiting a local museum in the medieval city of Cordes in France, and there I saw a very peculiar coffin (sarcophage is the correct french term). The stone coffin was from the Mirovingiens era and was fitted for 2 people. Also, the stone wall in-between the 2 sides had a row of holes for the dead to communicate with each other! Very convenient too if one has music inside. I'd be curious to know whether anybody has ever seen anything like it? Personally I haven't. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:03:22 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: "Electricity" What's it all about? thanks for the analysis, makes sense to me - i had always kind of just dismissed the lyrics of this tune feeling i couldn't get my brain around it, although i've always loved the song and the album, FTR is usually in my top three. anyway i'm going to go have a listen right now peace, david NPIMH -Electricity ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:07:09 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re:electricity Bob, that was an awesome analysis of "electricity". I loved it! Joni is definitely the metaphor queen! I read an article in the jmdl library a while ago regarding this song. I don't remember the name of the article, but the critic was reviewing "For the Roses". And I think he mentioned that the song "electricity" was about a car. He did, however, rip on Joni for using masking tape rather than electrical tape. This song reminds me alot of Rickie Lee Jones' "Last Chance Texaco". Although, I think in "electricity" the point of view is from the car itself. And the car is making observations, while watching Joni and her "help" struggle with the repairs. The car is probably reminiscing about the good old days when it did run and when "they once loved together and floodlight that time". I've always thought that the "minus" in this song was the minus on the thermometer dipping to those very cold temperatures. I've always loved this song, too. It is one of my favorites. Mia _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:31:49 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: re:electricity <> And I wouldn't say that was wrong, but I didn't see anything in the lyrics that would indicate that. It appears to me that she's paralleling the nature of love with the electricity in general rather than its mechanical application to a motor vehicle. But the nature of electricity is such that it works in the context of a car (running vs. stalled) or a lamp (illumination vs. darkness) or anything that requires electricity. (Shades of MG's classic parody "You Turn Me On, I'm A Vibrator")... <> Hey, I'll defend Joni...whatever gets the job done! We've all probably used a screwdriver for a hammer, or used a hammer to knock a screw in! ;~) <> Very "cool" observation, adds some depth to the analysis. And it certainly works on that level... Thanks Mia...and thanks again to Matt for "jump-starting the discussion in the first place. :~) Bob NP: Uncle Tupelo, "Fatal Wound" (from the superb "Anthology" reissue) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:52:32 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: re:electricity > "Electricity? Biology? Seems to me it's Chemistry" (Lee, Lifeson, Peart) from "Chemistry" on Signals (1982) This song reminds me alot of Rickie Lee Jones' "Last Chance Texaco". > Although, I think in "electricity" the point of view is from the car itself. > And the car is making observations, while watching Joni and her "help" > struggle with the repairs. The car is probably reminiscing about the good > old days when it did run and when "they once loved together and floodlight > that time". > - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:56:40 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Paul Westerberg njc Joniphiles - Any Paul Westerberg fans out there? I've not listened to him much until now but simply cannot pry his new "Stereo" disc out of the player. I'd be interested to hear what others who've heard this disc think about it. Les NP - "Mr Rabbit" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 17:57:06 +0100 From: ReckersL@ebrd.com Subject: RE: Desafinado or ... (flippant JC) njc Easy! Anne, Brigitte, Sally, Rosemarie and me! VOILA! (Sorry for the delay in reply, I was not in the office, and thanks Lamadoo for giving a very good interim answer!) -----Original Message----- From: John van Tiel [SMTP:john.van.tiel@wxs.nl] Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:19 PM To: ReckersL@ebrd.com; joni@smoe.org; Mike Pritchard; SCJoniGuy@aol.com; Gerald Notaro (LIB) Subject: Desafinado or ... (flippant JC) Lieve wrote: >> one thing I would never want to do is generalise, even as a child I refused to join in the telling of jokes about the "Hollanders" (hi John, surely feminists can be sweethearts?!) Yes? Name five, then. :-) _____________________________________________________________ This message may contain privileged information. 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Two new Tom Waits...new Elvis Costello (and a DAMN fine one it is), and two new Westerbergs...pinch me somebody, I gotta be dreamin'! (If the "Case of Joni" tribute gets announced, then I'll KNOW I'm dreamin'!);~) Bob NP: Uncle Tupelo, "Chickamauga" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:09:07 EDT From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: Re: funeral song/art exhibit i told a friend several years ago that i wanted " the circle game " played at my funeral. of course i also told her, and my parents, that i wanted my ashes put on her compost pile . ( i still want to be cremated but i have been having second thoughts about her compost pile! ) she made the comment that my choice off songs would certainly produce adequate tears. another incident in my life was brought to memory when i read the post about the new york art exhibit. i was having a conversation about joni's then new release TI with a friend at school. we both made our way to college late, being in our forties. a young student commented that she had seen a retrospective of joni's artwork in new york, naturally i was envious and pressed for details. come to find out it wasn't joni mitchell but joan mitchell whose retrospect she had seen. ( the " i thought she was dead " comment was the first clue.) anyway... warren keith p.s. i always thought " shadow and light " would make a good dirge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:23:02 EDT From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: Re: input-output-electricity nice analysis of " electricity " bob, my sentiments exactly. it has always been one of my favorite tunes. i thought joni's clever use of metaphors was particularly genius as well. like you said, in lesser hands... metaphorically yours, warren keith p.s. what took you so long to buy FTR ? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:11:11 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: input-output-electricity <> I remember in the early 70's when I first heard Joni, I didn't like her voice (the higher pitched stuff). I loved Court & Spark, and HOSL & Hejira and so on, but I never really went BACKWARDS from C&S until I joined up with BMG record club in the mid-late 80's, then I started buying up a lot of CD's, including the "pre-C&S" Joni; Blue, FTR, LOTC, MOA, everything in fact except STAS which BMG didn't list. I got that one finally in the latter 90's from my local store. So as you can see my purchasing history for Joni's work has been pretty wacky. Remember too that (in the early seventies) I wasn't exactly running around with a crowd that was listening to/talking about a lot of Joni Mitchell! That's why I appreciate a question like the one about Electricity, it forces me to dig down deep with these songs and I gain a fuller appreciation of them. Bob NP: Gomez, "Rie's Wagon" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:07:07 -0400 From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #217 -- Joni not at the Whitney The Whitney exhibit mentioned earlier is the work of the painter Joan Mitchell, not Joni. Would have been nice though.... Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:30:25 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: input-output-electricity - njc The nice Bob writes: << it forces me to dig down deep >> Careful, Bob. When you do that, you lose good sleep and it makes you heavy company. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:31:28 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: Re: input-output-electricity - njc <> Lose good sleep? Heavy company? You're puttin' me in the mood for Jonifest, dude! :~) Bob NP: PM Dawn, "Paper Doll" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 21:53:59 +0100 From: LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk Subject: natalie imbruglia sjc We have a great little show here in Britain where contemporary musicians come on do a song of their own and then cover the song of some other artist they like or particularly admire. The show is called Re-covered. Well tonight they had, among others, natalie imbruglia playing. I dont know if natalie, an antipodean, is recognised as a musical entity with my transatlantic cousins but she's had a tune or two warmly received here. In the event she covered Crowded House's 'Pineapple Head' but afterwards she was interviewed and admitted she have liked to do a Joni Mitchell song but she was scared to because she's 'so amazing'. natalie, my dear, get along to this year's jonifest in upstate new york and watch very many brave moths fly into that particular flame with scant regard for the consequences. Bob, I had the tape locked and loaded ready to wing it to you. Others on tonight's show were Stereophonics covering the Beatles' 'Dont let me down' and The Pet Shop Boys covering Neil Young's 'Philadelphia'. Les (London) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 17:29:09 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: natalie imbruglia sjc <> I have trained you well in the ways of the Jedi, grasshopper! :~) Shucks, I wish that would have come to pass. Wonder which one she would have sung? If "brave moths" like you & I can wander into that light, why can't she? :~) Bob NP: PM Dawn, "The Beautiful" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 8:46:55 +1000 From: john low Subject: Joni in Fiction Im sorry I cant remember who is preparing the Joni in Fiction section soon to be posted on Les web site. I came across a small reference that I thought might interest people. At the moment Im reading the very last book that Richard Brautigan wrote before he died in 1984. Titled "An Unfortunate Women: A Journey", it was only published in 2000, by St. Martins Press (my copy is the British p/b edition published by Canongate Books, Edinburgh, 2001). In it there is a reference to Joni Mitchell, though he doesnt mention her by name. Pursuing a thought on the impact of the motor car in Honolulu he writes: "I think the worst case of Los Angeles automobile cultural damage Ive ever seen is Honolulu. For all practical purposes of survival you might as well drop dead if you dont have a car in Honolulu. ... "A folksinger has written a song about Honolulu in which she mentions tearing down paradise and putting up a parking lot." Forgive me if this has already been noted. Best wishes to all, John (in Sydney) __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:27:21 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: natalie imbruglia njc LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk wrote: > Well tonight they had, among others, natalie imbruglia playing. > > I dont know if natalie, an antipodean, I have no idea what antipodean means but I can turn any post into something about Y Tu Mama Tambien. Natalie Imbruglia is on the soundtrack album, with a song named "Cold Air." It is a great album and she has one of the better songs. Soundtrack also includes Brian Eno, Frank Zappa, and a lot of people that I do not know, I have really fallen in love with a song by Marco Antonio Solius called Si No Te Habieras Ido. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:29:01 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc hey, i loved those songs on the extra single, too. especially saturn. i'd forgotten about that. are they all on the cd? i haven't set up my turntable in years, just relied on a friend's table to intermittently tape what i couldn't live without. for 'songs', i'd definitely spring for... patrick np - ella - right place wrong time (cole) >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of >SCJoniGuy@aol.com >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:41 AM >To: Michael Paz >Cc: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc > > ><included with the original album. 'Member that??>> > >'Deed I do! I loved all four of those 'bonus tracks' on that >little 45 included with the double LP: > >Ebony Eyes >Easy Goin' Evening (my fave of the lot, LOVE that harmonica!) >Saturn >All Day Sucker > >And a bit o' trivia...cowriter of Saturn was Michael Sembello, who >scored a hit with "Maniac" in the 80's from Flashdance, I think. > >Bob > >NP: Joan Osborne, "Crazy Baby" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:39:02 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: electricity, now last chance texaco - njc, really >This song reminds me alot of Rickie Lee Jones' "Last Chance Texaco". oh no, patrick's got a chance to talk about rickie lee. everyone duck! i remember in the mid-eighties working in a college bookstore where a book of greatest all-time rock lyrics was on sale, and 'last chance' was included. damn right, i thought then and still do. i even choreographed a dance in 1982 to the piece, for five women in thrift-shop dresses, still think it's one of the best things i've ever done. i think the metaphor in 'last chance' is much larger than 'electricity'. not just a relationship on the fritz, but a woman headed toward major sorrow in her whole life, and even more the song is about a way of american life dying out. brilliantly expressed and big as all getout. looking at the lyrics closer, i think it's also about her experience of needing love and a man (tom waits at the time) and not wanting to be bound to that. very similar to joni in many songs, yes. god, a typically rambling post. patrick np - ella - you're the top The Last Chance Texaco (Rickie Lee Jones) A long stretch of headlights Bends into I-9 Tiptoe into truck stops And sleepy diesel eyes Volcanoes rumble in the taxi And glow in the dark Camels in the driver's seat A slow, easy mark But you ran out of gas Down the road a piece Then the battery went dead And now the cable won't reach... It's your last chance To check under the hood Last chance She ain't soundin' too good, Your last chance To trust the man with the star You've found the last chance Texaco Well, he tried to be Standard He tried to be Mobil He tried living in a world And in a shell There was this block-busted blonde He loved her - free parts and labor But she broke down and died And threw all the rods he gave her But this one ain't fuel-injected Her plug's disconnected She gets scared and she stalls She just needs a man, that's all It's her last chance Her timing's all wrong Her last chance She can't idle this long Her last chance Turn her over and go Pullin' out of the last chance Texaco The last chance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:56:54 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in Fiction Thanks, John! I was unaware of that Brautigan book, so I will be adding it to the fiction section. Mark from Seattle sent me info about two other books over the weekend, so the Fiction section is growing steadily. When I proposed this project, I thought we would be dealing with 5 or 10 books -- but it is way more than that. And since we decided to add Joni mentions in poetry, plays, films, and on TV, there'll be, as one lister signs his posts, much Joni! Also, thanks to Les Ross for telling us about Natalie Imbruglia on TV. Although it's not an example on Joni in fiction, it will be on the site. There seem to be so many references to Joni on TV lately . . . mentions on TV dramas and comedies are in the fiction section, of course, but I found it hard to resist including those references to Joni that come from talk shows, late night TV, etc., so they'll be in the Fiction section, too. So if anyone else knows of or comes across any Joni in the media, please let me know about it. (Sorry, no need to send info about those times when you hear her music on a supermarket PA system, although that's always wonderful!) I am very thankful that our lovely Lori is putting the finishing technical touches on the site now -- while she's on vacation! -- so Joni in Fiction should be here soon. Take care, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 20:07:24 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: tragically hip? - njc I never thought I'd say or type these words, but . . . I like that new Eminem song. It's the one he sang on last weekend's Saturday Night Live. He mentions being banned from MTV and says something like "it seems empty without me." The song has been getting a lot of airplay here. Of course, I may regret these words if next time I listen to the song I hear lyrics about chopping up his mother and feeding her to dogs, or something equally vile . . . --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 01:13:49 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: tragically hip? - njc Bob, Damn, and I thought that'd be a posting about The Tragically Hip... (obCanadianReference) - --Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On > Behalf Of Murphycopy@aol.com > Sent: 16 May 2002 01:07 > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: tragically hip? - njc > > > I never thought I'd say or type these words, but . . . I like > that new Eminem > song. > > It's the one he sang on last weekend's Saturday Night Live. > He mentions being > banned from MTV and says something like "it seems empty > without me." The song > has been getting a lot of airplay here. > > Of course, I may regret these words if next time I listen to > the song I hear > lyrics about chopping up his mother and feeding her to dogs, > or something > equally vile . . . > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 17:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: RE: tragically hip? - njc - --- Chris Marshall wrote: > Bob, > > Damn, and I thought that'd be a posting about The Tragically > Hip... (obCanadianReference) > > --Chris Chris, thats what I thought too..surprised the bejeebers outta me in fact...the 'Hip' originate from small and very 'hip' town, Kingston, Ontario. They are fantastic. Been a huge fan of theirs for many years. I especially love Trouble in the Henhouse..do you know it? Mags. > > ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 18:07:22 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni in Film > So if anyone else knows of or comes across any Joni in the media, please let > me know about it. (Sorry, no need to send info about those times when you > hear her music on a supermarket PA system, although that's always wonderful!) I'm sure this has been mentioned before but last Sunday I saw the film 'Truly, Madly, Deeply' for the very first time. This is a film that was directed by Anthony Minghella before he became a bigshot, hotshot director after 'The English Patient'. It stars Alan Rickman and an amazing actress name Juliet Stevenson who absolutely blew me away with her performance. In many ways it was like seeing my own life portrayed in this movie. But I digress. There is a wonderful scene where two characters are being very joyfully silly and they start to sing 'A Case of You'. I said 'Joni moment' and Travis (who is not a fan) said 'A Case of You'? Of course he heard the lyric in the song but he did recognize that line as the title. I'm working on him, folks! Mark E in Seattle PS: For those of you who know this movie and know something about me, here's an interesting side note: Travis works as a care-giver to severely mentally retarded people. When Juliet's character re-encounters a man she met by chance who will become the new man in her life, I had to take a break. We stopped the movie for a few minutes. It was too much. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 21:23:12 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: tragically hip? - njc Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > I never thought I'd say or type these words, but . . . I like that new Eminem > song. Oh, another convert! :-) I know it was hard to confess that :-) And now I am feeling bad because I missed last Saturday's SNL and I don't even remember why. The kid has got talent, real talent. I keep waiting getting to kicked out of the JMDL because I really like Eminem's music. Of course, most of my friends think I am crazy too, but for me, when i really listened to it (thanks to Michael Yarbrough and where have you been, Michael?) I was blown away by the talent and the power. > Of course, I may regret these words if next time I listen to the song I hear > lyrics about chopping up his mother and feeding her to dogs actually he said his mother was an drinkin' druggie whore and she sued him for millions, his defense was, it was the truth, and lo and behold it was. They had a settlement of a little over $1,000. One of his songs has a great line about being bummed out when he found out his mother did more drugs then he did. I am really waiting for the new cd. His first two albums are almost operatic in scope, and the 2nd album continued from where the first album ended, and I am waiting the next installment. I also saw some clips from the upcoming movie, 8 Mile Road - a very detroit reference by the way, the dividing line between Detroit and the suburbs - and it looked pretty good. At least he has some real presence on screen. Vince NP: White Sox hosting Anaheim and we tied it up while I was typing this ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 21:57:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Funeral songs - NJC - --- hell wrote: > Hmmmm...... interesting thread! I can't say I've > given this a great deal of > thought, although I know I want Joni played > (obviously)! But I don't want a > traditional funeral - far too depressing. I want a New Orleans style jazz funeral. At this point, I'm not sure if I care exactly what they play, as long as it's in the NO jazz style. ______________________________________________________________________ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 18:33:07 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc Patrick wrote: > hey, i loved those songs on the extra single, too. especially saturn. i'd > forgotten about that. are they all on the cd? i haven't set up my > turntable in years, just relied on a friend's table to intermittently tape > what i couldn't live without. for 'songs', i'd definitely spring for... Yes, they are all on the two CD remastered set! It is currently on sale at CDNow for $22.48 if you want to pick it up. I burned out the grooves on all my old Stevie vinyls just like the Joni ones, so need to start replacing them all on CD. Still have the little 45 with Saturn on it, too! ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 18:36:25 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: tragically hip? - njc The first record company client I ever worked with gave me a gratis stack of Tragically Hip's debut CDs one day. I thought it was an amusing name but didn't listen to it right away. Handed out a number of them to my neighbors who all came back gushing and raving! I'll have to dig it out again. Kakki > Chris, thats what I thought too..surprised the bejeebers outta me in > fact...the 'Hip' originate from small and very 'hip' town, Kingston, > Ontario. They are fantastic. > > Been a huge fan of theirs for many years. I especially love Trouble in > the Henhouse..do you know it? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 22:15:34 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc I burned out the grooves on all > my old Stevie vinyls just like the Joni ones, so need to start replacing > them all on CD. Still have the little 45 with Saturn on it, too! ;-) I found a few mint condition records at a yard sale a couple of years ago. One of them was Songs in the Key of Life with the little 45 intact. Of course now my record player is busted so I can't play any records. Waaaaaaahhhhhh... Victor, throwing stuff in a bag and heading for Pazfest...I mean Springfest...Whooohooo!!! - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 22:30:33 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc <> The 2-CD copy I've got also has them, it's not the remastered set though, and I'm sure that it's worth the extra dough to get the newer issue. Stevie's run from "Music Of My Mind" to SITKOL is truly one of the amazing collections of our time. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "No One Knows I'm Gone" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:09:29 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: stevie wonder's 'as' njc Victor wrote: > I found a few mint condition records at a yard sale a couple of years ago. > One of them was Songs in the Key of Life with the little 45 intact. Of > course now my record player is busted so I can't play any records. > Waaaaaaahhhhhh... I coddle my little turntable and call it "precious" regularly ;-) > Victor, throwing stuff in a bag and heading for Pazfest...I mean > Springfest...Whooohooo!!! Wow!! Oh you lucky!!! I wish I could geaux! Have a wonderful time and please give us a report. (I especially would have loved to be with you guys seeing Tull!) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:43:58 +0800 From: "James Phillips" Subject: NJC a friend of mine was found dead today dear fellow listers: A good friend of mine was found dead this morning at his house, apparently a suicide attempt. I was wondering if anyone in Joni land can recommend any coping books that I might be able to get so I can read? James Phillips now playing 17 Seconds to Anywhere by Liz Story http://www.geocities.com/thebleachboi/home.html - -- Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #218 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?