From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #216 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, May 14 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 216 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Any statements from Joni about 9/11? ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: Happy Birthday Stevie (njc) ["Kakki" ] Re: Happy Birthday Stevie (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: (njc) save internet radio ["Kakki" ] Re: Bad news(njc) [Michael Paz ] "Electricity" What's it all about? ["Buck - the - Dog" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #214 - funeral music [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: What music will you play at your funeral?NJC [Abbymusique@aol.com] Re: What music will you play at your funeral?NJC ["Dolphie Bush" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:39:25 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Any statements from Joni about 9/11? Yes, shockingly she came out against killing children. Hee hee. No, seriously, she's been out of the stab and glare and buckshot of the media's heavy, heavy snow lately. She chatted up Kakki and Stephen E. only a few weeks after Sept 11th and said that she'd been painting up a storm to work through it. As far as we've heard though, the new album is completely unencumbered with new songs, so we'll probably only get sound-bites from Our Lady Of Duality on the topic. Come to think of it though, the upcoming film about the upcoming album was made in the weeks following Sept. (Remember: The studio dates were in London in Novemeber.) So maybe her film biographer asked her the "hard questions" and we'll soon see. Hmmmmmmm. Relayer asked: >> Has Joni made any statements about the horrible events of 9/11 and the subsequent turmoil and war, that anyone is aware of?I''d like to know what her reactions have been. thanks.>> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 19:20:23 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Thoughts on Y Tu Mama Tambien (njc) Just some observations off the top of my head... This film felt very natural (as have most of the foreign films I've seen) and I felt like I was getting a glimpse into something that was very real. I liked the way they would freeze everything and give some additional insight into the life/mind of one of the characters. I think this quietly added some depth to the whole story without disrupting it. What I got out of it is that human beings are naturally sensual beings, and as Maurice Sendak once said, almost anything that anyone does in their life is sexual whether its subconscious or conscious, whether one is a child or an adult. Life is for living and the only way to experience life is to go and do it, take risks, go into the unknown and rediscover who you are. I like the way it shows love as a beautiful thing and not something that is thought of as bad. The human body should be thought as something of beauty and not as something to be ashamed of. It also makes me realize how the media in this country has so completely distorted the idea of sexuality and uses it to sell everything so much so that I don't even watch anything anymore because so much of it just disgusts me. It all just seems rather predictable, empty and devoid of any meaning. And then you have the religious right/moral majority who are so uptight about sex and the nude body but who probably watch all of these shows anyway. It strikes me as very hypocritical. Y TU Mama Tambien had a kind of grace to it. Something that is sadly lacking in many other things I have seen. Go out and enjoy your life. You only get one. Victor --- Victor Johnson--- waytoblu@mindspring.com"Roses wait for the springtime,They sleep beneath the ground.They hear March winds a callin'For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:35:18 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: sdrawkcab (njc) I had lasagna for breakfast and for dinner I had eggs and waffles. Seems kind of strange now that I think about it. It's kind of fun to change the routine though, shake things up a little bit... Victor --- Victor Johnson--- waytoblu@mindspring.com"Roses wait for the springtime,They sleep beneath the ground.They hear March winds a callin'For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:22:36 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Stevie (njc) Patrick wrote: > amen sister! 'songs in the key of life' is stevie's masterpiece, with > pastime paradise being one of my all-time favorite songs. Yes another total classic! This morning at work when I first flipped on the radio Pastime Paradise started playing! I thought - how synchro. Then continuing for the next several hours a Stevie song was played about every two or three songs. I thought wow, REALLY synchro. Finally it was announced that the station was celebrating Stevie's birthday today! The station, by the way is KJLH (acornym for Kindness, Joy Love and Happiness" and it has been owned by Stevie for years. I switched over to listening there about a month ago when all the public radio in L.A. was starting to put me to sleep. It's been a beautiful day listening to mostly Stevie from all across his catalog. Sigh. > a couple of years ago, for a george michael greatest hits project, he and > mary j. blige did a duet cover of 'as'. This sounds absolutely stunning - I would love to hear this and will hunt around for it. Amazing at how Stevie's music is never dated and either holds up timelessly or becomes more appreciated with time. Raising my martini glass to Mr. Wonder tonight for bringing so much musical and spiritual joy to me and so many others. Kakki NP: Love's In Need of Love Today ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:54:16 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Stevie (njc) > Raising my martini glass to Mr. Wonder tonight for bringing so much musical > and spiritual joy to me and so many others. > I'll raise my glass to that! Thank you Stevie for all the joy you bring through your music. I truly wonder at the beauty of it all... Victor - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:09:51 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Jimi, Joni, Stills & Leary + SPRINGFEST Hey Julius Thanks for the gift of Black Gold. I started reading it this weekend in beautiful Destin, Florida half nekked on the beach with my dew rag on my head and the kids frolicking in the surf. I will catch some more on the beach next Monday when I am decompressing. I am back in Florida this weekend starting on Thursday in beautiful downtown Pensacola till Monday evening. Check out the website http://www.springfest.net/index.asp?bhcp=1 . If anyone from the JMDL is within crawling distance of P-Cola, start crawling so we get there about the sametime. Bonnie Raitt, Jethro Tull, Kansas, Lit, BTE, Cowboy Mouth, Edgar Winter, James Hall, Galactic, Baha Men, Jon Cleary, King Konga (great fecking band), Steve Earle, Derek Trucks, Dickey Betts Band, Gary Wright (YUK I hate that song!!!), Rosie Ledet (TOO hot), Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, etc etc. And did I mention "I" will be there??? Not playing just producing but of course I will be playing later (wink wink you heard me????). I guarantee tickets, backstage passes to any JMDL'er who wants to come. Come hang out! Love Paz P.S. I have missed you all and I AM trying to catch up with the list! NP-Round Here/Come Pick Me Up-Counting Crows Live from JazzFest 2002 on 4/24/02 2:12 AM, Julius Raymond at jrmills@pacbell.net wrote: > Hi folks. There's a book just out titled _Black Gold: The Lost Archives of > Jimi Hndrix_ by one Steven Roby. It's purported to be "the first > comprehensive biography to authenticate the lost sessions, previously > unknown record collaborations, and rare film and video documents of one of > the most innovative and influential rock guitarists in music history." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:34:51 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Any statements from Joni about 9/11? Lama wrote in response to Relayer: > She chatted up Kakki and Stephen E. only a few weeks after Sept 11th and > said that she'd been painting up a storm to work through it. As far as > we've heard though, the new album is completely unencumbered with new songs, > so we'll probably only get sound-bites from Our Lady Of Duality on the > topic. I don't know how long you were gone from the list Relayer, but a couple of Joni's 9/11 paintings (which appeared in the L.A. Times) are on JoniMitchell.com along with a few comments of how 9/11 turned her/our world "upside down." She did sepak to Stephen and I about it, but it was so soon after 9/11, that I wasn't in a place to quiz her more about her thoughts. She said that she broke up with Donald that day (he was here with her in L.A. when the tragedy happened). She also placed accountability on "America's export of violence in films and music." I thought that was a somewhat unusual take at the time, but with some perspective now, I am coming around to her point of view in part. Certainly many other countries also "export" violent "entertainment" product, too. Joni also talked a bit about 9/11 at the tribute in Toronto, some of which was related here. It seems to me that discussion of the events of 9/11 has many tendrils, and I don't think anyone on this earth has all the answers, or even half the answers yet, including Joni. I'm sure with more time and reflection, Joni will have more to say about it. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 21:20:50 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: 9/11(njc) > It seems to me that discussion of the events of 9/11 has many tendrils, and > I don't think anyone on this earth has all the answers, or even half the > answers yet, including Joni. I'm sure with more time and reflection, Joni > will have more to say about it. > > Kakki I've thought alot lately about the song I wrote "Parsonage Lane" and its relation to 9/11 and its been somewhat haunting and mystifying. My flight recently to and from New York was fairly uneventful and for the most part, pretty unmemorable, but the flight I took back from Boston last September was so beautiful, the clouds were unusually brilliant, and it will always be stuck in my mind as one of the richest moments I have ever experienced. I literally finished writing this song on September 10 and posted it that night. It occurred to me recently that it was probably the last song ever written about flying before the events of the next day. It has a complete innocence to it, in such stark contrast to the wanton terror and destruction that ensued. I don't think it could have been written afterwards. Maybe there was some greater power at work. Anyway, here are the lyrics again. Maybe it will be somewhat fitting to play at jonifest 2002 as we won't actually be in Topsfield this year. Parsonage Lane ) 2001 Victor Johnson e b f# e g# b capo 2 Flying out of Boston, Lifting off the ground. On a highway paved with clouds, Where do they go? Wind around tall white castles, Valleys long and vast. They seem to go on forever, Today. I'll stay here awhile, I've come home again. Friends and laughter, Down Parsonage Lane. Turn around and linger, September is here. The moonlight on the island, The sound of your guitar. Cascading in rivers, Voices I know. Reach me so gently, Open my heart. I'll stay here awhile, I've come home again. Friends and laughter, Down Parsonage Lane. 4 am on Plum Island, Singing to the dawn. We walk towards the water, Through the heavy sand. But I know that I must soon go, Wander among the clouds. Where the roads go on forever, They always take me home. I'll stay here awhile, I've come home again. Friends and laughter, Down Parsonage Lane - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:00:02 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: (njc) save internet radio Brenda wrote: > BTW - I know it's been mentioned once here, but if you listen to internet radio, please > visit http://www.saveinternetradio.org/ and if you're in the U.S. and feel so moved, send > a letter to your rep. I'm catching up on posts and just had the chance to go to this website last night. It provides excellent, easy to understand information as to why the regulators, etc. have a really bad, bad plan. There is also a link to go to a choice of letters (emails) to send to your local government representative. I've only ever signed a petition once in my life, years ago, because I was personally involved in the effort (a local conservation issue) but this issue also needs many voices. I join Brenda in asking others to visit this site and make your voice heard. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 21:06:37 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Bad news(njc) What this means Victor is that something far more beautiful is waiting for you just down the road a piece. I wish you well and hope that you have the strength to deal. Love Paz on 4/24/02 8:58 AM, Victor Johnson at waytoblu@mindspring.com wrote: > I showed up to work this morning and was told, pretty abruptly, that I > was being let go because "it wasn't working out." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 21:00:46 -0500 From: "Buck - the - Dog" Subject: "Electricity" What's it all about? Hi, my name is Matt and I'm new to the JMDL. There was mention of "Electricity" here recently, and I was just wondering, what is this song about? I'm very analytical of Joni's songs and just can't figure this one out. What are all these things references to? Like, "Proud headed Queen Lizzie" and the "masking tape." Any kind of stanza by stanza explanation would be really welcome. lol I hope this kind of discussion is done a lot here cause there are several of Joni's songs that I have trouble understanding sometimes. Thanks a lot Matt _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:24:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Electricity" What's it all about? - --- Buck - the - Dog wrote: > Hi, my name is Matt and I'm new to the JMDL. There > was mention of > "Electricity" here recently, and I was just > wondering, what is this song > about? I'm very analytical of Joni's songs and just > can't figure this one > out. What are all these things references to? > Like, "Proud headed Queen > Lizzie" and the "masking tape." Any kind of stanza > by stanza explanation > would be really welcome. lol Welcome, Matt. I'm far too lazy to get into any line-by-line analysis of anything, but just off the top of my head, the copper, proud-headed Queen Lizzie would be a Canadian penny (has a picture of Liz on the heads side). A common and unssafe practice when a fuse blows is to put a penny in its place - don't try this at home, kids. I think she really meant electric tape, rather than masking tape (I've never seen black masking tape), but masking tape fit better in the song (or maybe Joni didn't know it was called electric tape.) ("The 'lectric tape tangles, it's sticky and black and the copper, proud-headed Queen Lizzie conducts little charges that don't get charged back." She's talking about fixing some wiring/electrical problems, but also about trying to fix a broken relationship. That's what it means to me, anyhoo. ______________________________________________________________________ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:13:57 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: YooHoo Patty Griffin Fans NJC Doing my happy dance...FINALLY, she's coming to SoCal!!!! Anyone else going to the Troub show? 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Probably some other Joni stuff too, but "Love" is a must. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 01:03:35 EDT From: Abbymusique@aol.com Subject: Re: What music will you play at your funeral?NJC I guess a really good song for that, one which really caught my ear on Austin City Limits, was sung by Nanci Griffith. I'm not sure of the exact title, but it goes: When I die I'm going to catch a black bird's wing And I will fly away to Heaven Come some blue, blue bonnet (?) spring. It's a pretty song. Judy Collins's "Amazing Grace" would be my first choice. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 00:55:43 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: What music will you play at your funeral?NJC Great tune Abby. The name of that tune is Gulf Coast Highway. mack > I guess a really good song for that, one which really caught my ear on Austin > City Limits, was sung by Nanci Griffith. I'm not sure of the exact title, > but it goes: > > When I die I'm going to catch a black bird's wing > And I will fly away to Heaven > Come some blue, blue bonnet (?) spring. > > It's a pretty song. Judy Collins's "Amazing Grace" would be my first choice. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:11:24 -0700 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Re: music that might play at my funeral if I die -- NJC Bob, I don't know how else to say it: thanks for your touching post on funeral music. I'm sorry about the relatives you've lost. It's a touching sentiment that you took time to remember them on Mother's Day like you did. Thank you for sharing your feelings and thoughts here. And what song lists you've compiled. They're as amusing as they are inspiring. How could one not love this JMDL with posts such as these? And I'm sure there are things in life more disconcerting than not being able to stop the Johnny Cash classic "Ring of Fire" from playing over and over in my head, but I can't think of one right now. Oh, but wait...there's always death. In my younger, wilder, devil-may-care days I made it clear to anyone who would listen that I wanted but one song played at my funeral. Preferably live (unintended pun, I swear) by the man himself: From the album _Catholic Boy_, the Jim Carroll Band's immortal "People Who Died." I communicated that I would consider it a tremendous, albeit posthumous, honor if Mr. Carrol added a stanza to the song recounting my own demise. And it was to be played LOUD, with a raging mosh pit of my closest friends dancing wildly right up front, recklessly jostling my open casket. And I wanted a very large video screen behind the casket showing unedited video footage of Iranian President Ayatollah Khomeini's funeral procession throughout the song's performance. His was the mother of all funerals, in my opinion. One of my buddies, bless his heart, had faithfully promised to attend to every detail of my morbid (by definition!) last wishes if I kicked the bucket before him. Take note Dionne, Stevie and Elton: *that's* what friends are for. - -Julius People Who Died By Jim Carroll (played with a driving, punk beat) Teddy sniffing glue he was 12 years old Fell from the roof on East Two-nine Cathy was 11 when she pulled the plug On 26 reds and a bottle of wine Bobby got leukemia, 14 years old He looked like 65 when he died He was a friend of mine Refrain: Those are people who died, died Those are people who died, died Those are people who died, died Those are people who died, died They were all my friends, and they died G-berg and Georgie let their gimmicks go rotten So they died of hepatitis in upper Manhattan Sly in Vietnam took a bullet in the head Bobby OD'd on Drano on the night that he was wed They were two more friends of mine Two more friends that died / I miss 'em--they died Repeat Refrain Mary took a dry dive from a hotel room Bobby hung himself from a cell in the tombs Judy jumped in front of a subway train Eddie got slit in the jugular vein And Eddie, I miss you more than all the others, And I salute you brother/ This song is for you my brother Repeat Refrain Herbie pushed Tony from the Boys' Club roof Tony thought that his rage was just some goof But Herbie sure gave Tony some bitchen proof "Hey," Herbie said, "Tony, can you fly?" But Tony couldn't fly . . . Tony died Repeat Refrain: Brian got busted on a narco rap He beat the rap by rattin' on some bikers He said, hey, I know it's dangerous, but it sure beats Riker's But the next day he got offed by the very same bikers Repeat Refrain; repeat song to Eddie > Ah, death! > ...> > As for what music I would like played at my funeral, I really can't decide. > Should I leave 'em laughing when I go? Or should I pick music that would > guarantee that's there's not a dry eye in the house? Or maybe try to > accomplish a little of both with music that's so enigmatic, they won't know > whether to laugh or cry? And of course, there's always schmaltzy and tacky, > which can be great at a funeral . . . So with that in mind, I've made a few > lists of my selections in those four categories. > > > --Bob, heading for the Light -- Bud Light! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 01:06:07 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: music that might play at my funeral if I die -- NJC Don't forget Gladys. mack > Bob, I don't know how else to say it: thanks for your touching post on > funeral music. I'm sorry about the relatives you've lost. It's a touching > sentiment that you took time to remember them on Mother's Day like you did. > Thank you for sharing your feelings and thoughts here. And what song lists > you've compiled. They're as amusing as they are inspiring. How could one > not love this JMDL with posts such as these? > > And I'm sure there are things in life more disconcerting than not being able > to stop the Johnny Cash classic "Ring of Fire" from playing over and over in > my head, but I can't think of one right now. Oh, but wait...there's always > death. > > In my younger, wilder, devil-may-care days I made it clear to anyone who > would listen that I wanted but one song played at my funeral. Preferably > live (unintended pun, I swear) by the man himself: From the album _Catholic > Boy_, the Jim Carroll Band's immortal "People Who Died." I communicated > that I would consider it a tremendous, albeit posthumous, honor if Mr. > Carrol added a stanza to the song recounting my own demise. > > And it was to be played LOUD, with a raging mosh pit of my closest friends > dancing wildly right up front, recklessly jostling my open casket. And I > wanted a very large video screen behind the casket showing unedited video > footage of Iranian President Ayatollah Khomeini's funeral procession > throughout the song's performance. His was the mother of all funerals, in > my opinion. > > One of my buddies, bless his heart, had faithfully promised to attend to > every detail of my morbid (by definition!) last wishes if I kicked the > bucket before him. Take note Dionne, Stevie and Elton: *that's* what > friends are for. > > -Julius > > People Who Died > By Jim Carroll > > (played with a driving, punk beat) > > Teddy sniffing glue he was 12 years old > Fell from the roof on East Two-nine > Cathy was 11 when she pulled the plug > On 26 reds and a bottle of wine > Bobby got leukemia, 14 years old > He looked like 65 when he died > He was a friend of mine > > Refrain: > Those are people who died, died > Those are people who died, died > Those are people who died, died > Those are people who died, died > They were all my friends, and they died > > G-berg and Georgie let their gimmicks go rotten > So they died of hepatitis in upper Manhattan > Sly in Vietnam took a bullet in the head > Bobby OD'd on Drano on the night that he was wed > They were two more friends of mine > Two more friends that died / I miss 'em--they died > > Repeat Refrain > > Mary took a dry dive from a hotel room > Bobby hung himself from a cell in the tombs > Judy jumped in front of a subway train > Eddie got slit in the jugular vein > And Eddie, I miss you more than all the others, > And I salute you brother/ This song is for you my brother > > Repeat Refrain > > Herbie pushed Tony from the Boys' Club roof > Tony thought that his rage was just some goof > But Herbie sure gave Tony some bitchen proof > "Hey," Herbie said, "Tony, can you fly?" > But Tony couldn't fly . . . Tony died > > Repeat Refrain: > > Brian got busted on a narco rap > He beat the rap by rattin' on some bikers > He said, hey, I know it's dangerous, > but it sure beats Riker's > But the next day he got offed > by the very same bikers > > Repeat Refrain; repeat song to Eddie > > > > Ah, death! > > > ...> > > As for what music I would like played at my funeral, I really can't > decide. > > Should I leave 'em laughing when I go? Or should I pick music that would > > guarantee that's there's not a dry eye in the house? Or maybe try to > > accomplish a little of both with music that's so enigmatic, they won't > know > > whether to laugh or cry? And of course, there's always schmaltzy and > tacky, > > which can be great at a funeral . . . So with that in mind, I've made a > few > > lists of my selections in those four categories. > > > > > > --Bob, heading for the Light -- Bud Light! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 01:12:15 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: nanci njc thanks abby, it is a perfect evening for nanci and thanks to your post I put her on. She is so wonderful and being one that often sings of this area of texas, she is particularly enjoyable on this texas evening. mack ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #216 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?