From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #182 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, April 25 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 182 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: fiction or nonfiction? ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: fiction or nonfiction? ["Kakki" ] Re: fiction or nonfiction? ["Kakki" ] Re: fiction or nonfiction? [Murphycopy@aol.com] RE: fiction or nonfiction? ["Kate Bennett" ] Pleasant Wednesday afternoon...(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: fiction or nonfiction? ["Kate Bennett" ] I guess this qualifies as more bad news NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Chicagoan's: Joni and US*99 Country Radio [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: Priests marrying, NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: fiction or nonfiction? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] NJC: Chicagoan's: Joni and US*99 Country Radio [Vince Lavieri ] Re: I guess this qualifies as more bad news NJC [Mags N Brei ] B O N N I E A L E R T ! ! ! - NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] Karla Bonoff, Crusaders and SoCal, et al njc [Julius Raymond ] Joni and Carey ["Kakki" ] Re: Jimi & Dusty njc ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Jimi & Dusty njc ["hell" ] RE: Joni and Carey ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:47:11 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: fiction or nonfiction? >OK, I'm not above gossip . . . Who is it about, Kate?< lol...well last time, a few people got a little upset at me for saying I'd heard it was about David Crosby (from a respectable source)...(though Joni is the only one who can really say)...think about it...the words, metaphors...they really fit...specially the flying (byrd) references & the devil/angel thing...he was a devil alright but with the voice, guitar, songs of an angel... I met you on a midway at a fair last year And you stood out like a ruby in a black man's ear You were playing on the horses, you were playing on the guitar strings You were playing like a devil wearing wings, wearing wings You looked so grand wearing wings Do you tape them to your shoulders just to sing Can you fly I heard you can! Can you fly Like an eagle doin' your hunting from the sky I followed with the sideshows to another town And I found you in a trailer on the camping grounds You were betting on some lover, you were shaking up the dice And I thought I saw you cheating once or twice, once or twice I heard your bid once or twice Were you wondering was the gamble worth the price Pack it in I heard you did! Pack it in Was it hard to fold a hand you knew could win So lately you've been hiding, it was somewhere in the news (he was kicked out of the byrds) And I'm still at these races with my ticket stubs and my blues And a voice calls out the numbers, and it sometimes mentions mine And I feel like I've been working overtime, overtime I've lost my fire overtime Always playin' one more hand for one more dime Slowin' down I'm gettin' tired! Slowin' down And I envy you the valley that you've found 'Cause I'm midway down the midway Slowin' down, down, down, down ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:48:25 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: fiction or nonfiction? Hi Kate, >Ultimately, no one but Joni can say what or who her songs are really about & I don't know if she >ever has said so publicly. Sometimes she has spoken publicly about her real life expereiences that inspired a song, such as "Big Yellow Taxi" (visiting an increasing paved-over Oahu); "Night Ride Home" (driving alongside Larry one night on Maui), "Man From Mars" (when Nietzsche the cat ran away), Woodstock (watching it from afar on TV), "Furry Sings the Blues" (her visit with the ailing Furry Lewis) and even "Empty, Try Another" (about an empty cigarette machine outside a recording studio whose "kerchunk" sound was later sampled on that song ;-) On many of her early taped "coffee-house" performances between songs she has chatted about some of the real life characters in her songs, including "Carey," the friend who inspired "Winter Lady," Rose from "Roses Blue" and others. Some of the songs we can easily guess about like "Little Green" (about giving up Kiluaren for adoption), "Dawntreader" (about her time with Crosby in Florida) "Willy" (Graham Nash's childhood and given name) and half of the "Wild Things Run Fast" album which celebrates her newfound love with Larry. Hearing her talk about the real story behind some of the songs only enhances them for me, too. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:56:59 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: fiction or nonfiction? Kate wrote: > lol...well last time, a few people got a little upset at me for saying I'd > heard it was about David Crosby (from a respectable source)...(though Joni > is the only one who can really say)...think about it...the words, > metaphors...they really fit...specially the flying (byrd) references & the > devil/angel thing...he was a devil alright but with the voice, guitar, songs > of an angel... Plus, remember he was famous for often wearing that big green velvet cape in performances and photos from the Byrd days! That could have given him a little "lift-off," too ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:06:55 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: fiction or nonfiction? Victor writes: << Come on Jeff, confess...you're the carnival man. :~} >> Ah, ha! So that's why he plays like a devil! And Victor, I am sorry about your job . . . but I've always found that places that are totally disorganized (like this one was) are always looking for new people to blame for being the way they are. And after they've run through many top-notch employees, they complain that they can't find any good people. You're better off without them, Victor. And if you need any JMDL thugs to distrupt their upcoming crafts fair, count me in! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:09:01 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: fiction or nonfiction? >>Plus, remember he was famous for often wearing that big green velvet cape in performances and photos from the Byrd days! That could have given him a little "lift-off," too ;-) Kakki<< lol kakki, oh those 60's fashions!!!! >>"Night Ride Home" (driving alongside Larry one night on Maui),>> I knew it was Hawaii, but love to hear that it is Maui...around the time NRH was released I was on Maui during the 4th of July...thats the place I always pictured it...i wonder what bar they were at... >>On many of her early taped "coffee-house" performances between songs she has chatted about some of the real life characters in her songs, including "Carey,"<< what has she said about carey? when i read that leonard cohen used to live in greece long ago, i thought maybe it was about him... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:1:28 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Pleasant Wednesday afternoon...(njc) Despite these frustrating events, I've been having the most wonderful day. I've been practicing alot of music and found several songs I wrote back in the period of 93-96 that I'm finding are really good songs. I think at the time I wrote them, I was not a very good performer and was not able to give them much justice but they seem to have found some new life. Then I started singing some old Stevie Wonder, "I Never Dreamed You'd Leave in Summer" and "Think of Me As Your Soldier" and it felt so good just to let my voice ring out and really feel the passion in the music (though my housemates might not think so...). Maybe I'll do one in my set at jonifest. And I went to a used bookstore and found a cool book "Indestructible Truth: The Living Sprituality of Tibetan Buddhism" and I'm getting together with some friends tonight at "Jack of the Wood" , a really cool Irish pub that's nonsmoking. There is so much to be grateful for. Victor --- Victor Johnson--- waytoblu@mindspring.com"Roses wait for the springtime,They sleep beneath the ground.They hear March winds a callin'For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:47:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Priests marrying, NJC >>yes. tho sex is not it's primary aim.<< it seems to me it is just like rape in the sense its not about sexual drive but about power & anger, etc. >>One of the reasons it won't work like this, and why, as Bob wrote, the congregation supoported the Bishop, is beacuse it will be far too painful for many to see the flaws in the Church they rely on.<<< okay, i am not catholic ... but i really don't get it...how can people not be horrified, how can they not see the freakin flaws of the whole situation & i can't believe they applauded!?!? bob, what exactly were they applauding? ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:11:42 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: fiction or nonfiction? rotflmao...ohmygawd...funny...hey, i'm on digest so about a half day behind ya'll... >>Okay, if Kate won't come out and tell you, I will...its really about Jeff Bisch. He's only been pretending this whole time to be a newcomer into this whole Joni thing. Come on Jeff, confess...you're the carnival man. :~} Victor<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:31:32 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: I guess this qualifies as more bad news NJC Anne, my prayers of healing go out to you... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:42:28 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Jimi & Dusty njc Newly unearthed footage of Jimi performing "Voodoo Chile" and "Hey Joe" > on the Lulu Show on BBC televison in 1969. You may remember Lulu from her > heart wrenching ballad "To Sir With Love," theme song to the movie of the > same name? She had gotten her own variety-type show on BBC with her > new-found popularity and the Jimi Hendrix Experience had guested. Jimi was > supposed to do a duet with Lulu for their final song, but instead he > defiantly launched into a Cream song ("Sunshine of Your Love"), as a tribute > to the recently dissolved band. The BBC banned him for life for the stunt, > Roby said. I was watching a program about Dusty Springfield this past weekend and I could swear there was a snippet of footage of Jimi singing with Dusty. I think the song might have been 'Mockingbird'. Julius, do you or does anyone else know if Jimi ever appeared on television duetting with Dusty? Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:47:22 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Chicagoan's: Joni and US*99 Country Radio US*99 radio station 'REWARDS' site has a 'Joni' Question today http://us99.listenernetwork.com Under Rewards and then GET POINTS and TRIVIA BYTES: Question: Who wrote the lyrics, "By the time we got to Woodstock we were a half a million strong"? Answer: Joni Mitchell (for 500 points.) If you're playing and need today's other answers they are: Country Quiz of the Day (500 points) In 1996, Patty Loveless was nominated for a Grammy in the Best Female Country Vocal Performance. Which song was she nominated for? Answer: YOU DON't SEEM TO MISS ME Artist of the Day (2500 points): Gentry Montgomery Country Cafe Bonus Code (1500 points): Strawberries The country station even acknowledges her. Never thought I'd see her mentioned on here! Laura (playing those sweeps!) 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A live operator will ask you a few questions (takes about 3 minutes) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:59:28 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Priests marrying, NJC Kate asks: << bob, what exactly were they applauding? >> I wasn't there at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross in Boston when the 600 parishioners gave Cardinal Above-the-Law a standing ovation, Kate, so I am not sure they were applauding any one thing -- from the news account I heard it was a show of support for the Cardinal, who refuses to resign despite the fact that his mismanagement of the situation (cover-ups, quietly moving pedophile priests to new parishes, etc.) caused many more children to be sexually abused over the last couple of decades. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:16:04 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: fiction or nonfiction? <> That was a good listing, Kakki...the one that came to my mind was "Cherokee Louise" when she introduces it during the (I think) '95 Gene Autry show, and says it's about her friend Mary Waddington. Kate, if you don't have these recordings you better get with it chile! :~) Bob NP: Cornelius, "Fly" (bought this one tonight, because they were playing it in the record store. First time I've done that in a while) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:47:17 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: NJC: Chicagoan's: Joni and US*99 Country Radio Laura still lives! It has been far too long since I have seen your name in the email inbox! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:37:58 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Priests In a message dated 4/23/02 10:57:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: > speaking of leonard cohen, his son adam cohen is performing in santa barbara > saturday night...has anyone heard him? of course i will give you all a > report! > > Yes I've heard of him from the Leonard Cohen files site: Even though Adam's music is unlike Leonard's, his looks are the spitting image of his father's. His debut CD, titled "Adam Cohen," is scheduled for release in the middle of June. Adam says his father has always been a big source of inspiration - ever since he was 5 years old and they sat at the kitchen table making songs together. Adam was drinking Farris water and taking quick looks out of the hotel window as he described the great respect he has for Leonard Cohen; respect for him both as a father and as an artist. He is very proud to be Leonard's son. Adam says that the best way he can thank his father is to succeed in putting his own soul and identity into his music. The lyrics for his songs are very important, he explains, because he wants to tell universal stories through his own eyes as they have penetrated his soul.Adam was born in Montreal, but now lives in Los Angeles. He had a rootless period following the separation of his parents. He has written 60 songs. Before selecting the ones to be included on his debut album, he asked for assistance from other songwriters. Two of them are Phil Roy and Tonio K, who are now credited as co-writers. They were helpful indistilling the songs into the versions appearing on the CD. Adam is very satisfied with the result, as is the producer, Steve Lindsey. Adam exuberantly describes that everyone he asked to assist him came through. One person that Adam didn't ask help from was his father. But, Adam says Leonard participated in developing the album all the same. "I asked for his advice as we went along, and played demos for him. He rarely needed to say anything, because his facial expression usually told me what he thought. It seemed that he especially liked the fact that I had found my own personal voice." rose ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:39:21 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Priests In a message dated 4/23/02 10:07:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, garyzack@ameritech.net writes: > so he borrowed one of his dad's or > perhaps the tie had belonged to his deceased father and he > was in possession of it. Leonard's father died when Leonard was only 9 yrs of age. rose ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:55:15 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Bad news(njc) Dear Victor, I walked away from a job almost a year ago because of a very demented and selfish person. Please, whatever you do, don't let this screwed up lady determine your self worth. She doesn't deserve your talents. In every workplace I have encountered, there is always someone in charge who is too stupid to realize what a good employee they have. I don't think I will ever understand that, but nevertheless I try to move on. From what I hear, you are a fantastic musician and artist. Dwell on these things. To comfort myself, I think about the director or producer who told Harrison Ford he couldn't act and would never make it in the movie business. I also think of the record executive who told Alan Jackson it would be best to get out of the music business. I wonder where all of these "smart" people in charge are thinking millions of dollars worth of sales later? I put your employer in this category. Squash her demeaning tactics in your mind like an ugly bug and keep on keeping on! Love, Sherelle In a message dated 04/24/2002 1:37:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 8:58:36 -0700 > From: "Victor Johnson" > Subject: Bad news(njc) > > I showed up to work this morning and was told, pretty abruptly, that I > was being let go because "it wasn't working out." This really pisses me > off because from the beginning I have been busting my ass and have been > completely committed, despite being brought into a situation that was > really disorganized and somewhat dysfunctional. I feel like I have been > used and discarded, and have been given virtually no compensation (she > handed me an enveloped with $100 dollars that is a little more than one > days work.) I even went out of my way to tell all my friends in Atlanta > about an upcoming arts festival this weekend that they're supposed to > have a booth at, and was trying very hard to promote it to anyone I could > think of. Meanwhile, my so called "employer" is looking at a state of > the art Mercedez van, that she plans on purchasing next week. Maybe > this is a blessing. I'm probably better off not working for this lady > who seems rather selfish and manipulative. I got completely fed up there > one day the other week but I told myself I'd reserve my frustrations and > make the best of the situation but I guess I won't have a chance now. I'm > very happy here and absolutely do not want to move again. This just > completely caught me by surprise though. I was putting all my effort > into this place and now I have to once again find some employment. I was > going to start focusing on putting a dead/or neil young cover band > together and start seriously working on recording a new record and I'm > still going to dammit. I'm not going to let this lady fuck up my life. > still > in shock,Victor. --- Victor Johnson--- waytoblu@mindspring.com"Roses > wait for the springtime,They sleep beneath the ground.They hear March > winds a callin'For the spring to come around."vlj Visit > http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:06:42 -0400 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: Priests Hi Rose, I was really talking about the possible "fictitious" priest in the song when I made that comment, wasn't really referring to Cohen there. It's a great song! Gary RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/23/02 10:07:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > garyzack@ameritech.net writes: > > > so he borrowed one of his dad's or > > perhaps the tie had belonged to his deceased father and he > > was in possession of it. > > Leonard's father died when Leonard was only 9 yrs of age. > > rose ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:06:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: I guess this qualifies as more bad news NJC - --- anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > > So, my news is that the cancer has returned. (not a big > surprise to me, since I've been in pain since the > surgery last October.) BUT, it appears to be again > localized, and in exactly the same place as it was > before. So, if I pass all the blood tests, ekg, scans, > etc., I'll be starting in a study in a couple of weeks. > It's a vaccine that uses a protein that's found in 95% > of all tumors. They've had an 85% success rate in the > lab - but that may or may not translate into a > comparable success rate in actual practice. Basically > it trains your immune system to attack the cancer > cells. The study's duration is 6 months - so I expect > to be at JoniFest. > > So, believe it or not, I'm not as worried or depressed > as one might assume. (but I'm grumpy today because the > FDA says I have to have a CT scan and I hate having to > drink all the contrast dye - yuck!) > > Just keeping you all updated, since you've been so > incredibly supportive to me. I really love this big > "family" of ours. And the recent Joni discussions have > been terrific! Oh Anne. I am reminded in this tender moment of Victor's comment about this list being our diary, our place to write, to share, to be. Thank you for picking up the pen and letting us know your sad news. Anne, I admire you so much for your courage. You are the phoenix, rising up once again. Strong, beautiful, resilient, our precious jewel. Know that Brian and I love you dearly, we cherish you and the bond of friendship we have nurtured. I want you put that necklace we gave you in your hands, hold it close to your heart and remember what it means. Translated from Hebrew, Chai means life. That is our wish for you beloved Anne, we wish you life. Imagine yourself in the centre of the jmdl circle, all of us now, our arms around you, holding onto you, holding you up, we are right there beside you. you are not alone. ever. sending you tonnes of love and strength, now and always, in all ways, MagsnBrei xo ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:11:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: start spreading the news ... NJC MullerFest a la new york new yorrrrk Last call for details/ideas re: the MullerFest a la New York this Saturday...okay folks, what's the game plan? talk to me. Brei in E.S.C. looking forward ;-) np: I Want You performed by the Holly Cole ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:26:29 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: "Pornographic watches & Priests?" Bob wrote: > This is really a great little discussion...now I'm more inclined to side > with this opinion. I've never heard of a "pornographic watch" anyway, > except maybe for a pocket watch which opens up to expose some > dirty picture or something. Surely a priest would not wear something > (even a wrist watch) that is openly pornographic. This IS an interesting discussion - as is the whole discussion about priests, etc. I've always thought this was literally a pornographic watch, but a pocket watch, not a wrist-watch. One of those ones that opens at the back to "hide" a picture of some kind. Maybe he found it, and kept it out of curiosity! As far as priests go, I've meet good ones and bad ones. When I first went to high school, it was a private boys boarding school (run by the Roman Catholic Church, although I'm not Roman Catholic) that had just started accepting day students, and girls. It was a much "better" school than the public schools in the area. But then they integrated with the state school system and it all went down-hill. Discipline was non-existent, and the principal (a priest) was rumoured to be having an "affair" with one of the older male students, so I left (or rather my parents removed me) half-way through my high school schooling. Ironically I ended up at the same school where my mother was a teacher, and she taught me for the next three years .... but that's another story! But there were some wonderful teachers (priests and nuns) and some terrible ones. I guess all I'm saying is there are good and bad people in every walk of life - unfortunately the good ones just don't make the news as often. Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:39:52 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: B O N N I E A L E R T ! ! ! - NJC Bonnie Raitt is tonight's musical guest on Letterman. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:45:26 -0700 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Karla Bonoff, Crusaders and SoCal, et al njc This is somewhat after the fact, but I just wanted to type a few words about my recent trip to the L.A. area. My eternal thanks to Kakki for her graciousness and wonderful company. We packed alot of great night music and daytripping into a few days. Saturday night Kakki, Rick, Brad and I had martinis at Les Deux, we adjourned to the Catalina Bar and Grill in Hollywood for dinner and the jazz Crusaders where Clark. It is always something special to hang out this this SoCal gang. The Crusaders were perfect for my music mood. Street life... The Karla Bonoff event at the El Encanto Hotel above Santa Barbara was dreamlike. Kenny Edwards, Tom Kell and Karla herself were amazing in their beautifully subdued musicianship and perfect harmonies. Such an intimate performance in a beautiful garden setting with a view. There couldn't have been more than 20 people there. I got a kick out of thinking Paz would be eating his heart out about all this quality time I was getting with list beauties Kate and Kakki. And the music...piano, guitar, mandolin and bass...enchanting and truly classic. "someone to lay down beside me," "isn't it always love" "home." Just wonderful. Talking to Karla at length after the show was a special treat, too. Sorta funny synchronic type things happened, as usual. Coyote Rick couldn't make it to SB. I thought I saw a funny look on Karla's face when I asked her to sign the CD we got for him to "Coyote Rick." I figured it must've struck her as a bit of an odd request. It wasn't till later, when I was perusing the CD liner notes on the trip back to L.A., that I read that Karla is an avid cat lover, like Joni, and that she had written a song on the CD to her beloved lost cat, like Joni, called "I'll Miss You." (Rhymes with "big boo hoo"). Karla is quoted in the liner notes as saying "I think the coyotes got him (sniff)...we have them around here." Oops. :-) Another anecdote in the liner notes talks about a song Karla wrote that Linda Ronstadt was trying to record. Karla got a call from Linda's producer who was at the studio. He was saying they need Karla to come over to the studio because they couldn't get the guitars just right. Her reply: "It's in open tuning." Monday night at the Joint was a stone groove. The guitar player in the band had recorded with Karla, coincidently. Thanks for bearing me and reading to here. I'm working on my brevity challenges. Really. I'm off to New Orleans on a red eye tonight to hang with Paz for the first weekend of the Jazz and Heritage Festival . There'll be so much music. Brian Blade is doing a tribute to Stevie Wonder in the Jazz tent, among many, many other acts. I hope to have good things to report soon. My best to one and all. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:51:54 EDT From: LuvnMyWrld@aol.com Subject: Hey everyone! NJC Hey everyone, Don't know how many remember me from the Detroit shows...But I am Kelly--the redhead.....I'm still alive and lurking. But Just wanted to let you know....that I'm walking in the Michigan 3-Day Breast Cancer walk...walkin' 20 miles per day for 3 days. Ugh! 60 miles --wish me luck! Anyways, if anyone has been touched by Breast cancer and would like to make a donation so that I am able to do the walk (a sizeable fundraising minimum needs to be met), you can go to BeThePeople.com and donate to walker #5220 Kelly Schemanske. It would be greatly appreciated. 1 out of 8 women will have breast cancer in her lifetime....I want to help fight against Breast cancer...Let me know if you can help in anyway! Thanks in advance! Peace, Kelly ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:00:52 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Jimi & Dusty njc Julius wrote: > Newly unearthed footage of Jimi performing "Voodoo Chile" and "Hey Joe" > on the Lulu Show on BBC televison in 1969. You may remember Lulu from her > heart wrenching ballad "To Sir With Love," theme song to the movie of the > same name? She had gotten her own variety-type show on BBC with her > new-found popularity and the Jimi Hendrix Experience had guested. Jimi > was supposed to do a duet with Lulu for their final song, but instead he > defiantly launched into a Cream song ("Sunshine of Your Love"), as a > tribute to the recently dissolved band. The BBC banned him for life for the > stunt, Roby said. Fans of Lulu will also remember her recent appearances (as herself) on Absolutely Fabulous! Just thought I'd throw that in..... Then Mark wrote: > I was watching a program about Dusty Springfield this past weekend and I > could swear there was a snippet of footage of Jimi singing with Dusty. I > think the song might have been 'Mockingbird'. Julius, do you or does anyone > else know if Jimi ever appeared on television duetting with Dusty? I've got a documentary about Dusty on video and this is what she says about her own show (similar to Lulu's show): I did two years or three years with the BBC, and one with ITV, I think, and they were fairly hectic. Because I can't see cue cards, and besides I don't think anyone HAD cue cards. They certainly didn't have auto-prompters. So I had to learn it all, and I spent half of the time - you know, the dinner break, when I was supposed to be putting my make-up on - running up and down to the sound booth trying to get them to accept things like Jimi Hendrix's volume. They were just kind of ashen-faced when I went up there you know, everything had gone - the meters had totally gone..... "That's the way it's SUPPOSED to sound!" Then they show a clip of Jimi singing with Dusty, subtitled - "Hendrix and Dusty - only known existing footage". And it was indeed Mockingbird! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:28:35 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Joni and Carey Kate, Here are some of Joni's Carey stories. I transcribed the first excerpt from the tape of her November 1972 Troubadour show (hey Les do I get some typing credit? ;-) Maybe someone would like to take on another new project to start transcriptions of her stories from the live performances - heehee) I also recall Joni talking about Carey on another tape (or maybe earlier on this one) where she said that she ran into him a few years later wandering around at the So Cal Renaissance Fair! Please excuse my lack of knowledge of the proper Greek or Crete (Cretian?) names and typos. The rambling grammar below is all Joni ;-) Kakki "I went to Greece a couple years ago and over there I met a very unforgettable character. I have a hard time remembering people's names like so I have to remember things by association, even unforgettable characters, I have to remember by association, so his name was "Carrot" Raditz, Carey Raditz, and oh, he's a great character. He's got sort of a flaming red personality, and flaming red hair and a flaming red appetite for red wine and he fancied himself to be a gourmet cook, you know, if he could be a gourmet cook in a cave in Matala. And he announced to my girlfriend and I the day that we met him that he was the best cook in the area and he actually was working at the time I met him - he was working at this place called the Delphini restaurant - until it exploded, singed half of the hair off of his beard and his legs, and scorched his turban, melted down his golden earrings. Anyway, one day he decided he was going to cook up a feast, you know, so we had to go to market because like in the village of Matala there was one woman who kind of had a monopoly - well actually there were three grocery stores but she really had a monopoly and because of her success and her affluence she had the only cold storage in the village, too, so she had all the fresh vegetables and all the cold soft drinks and she could make the yogurt last a longer than anyone else, and we didn't feel like giving her any business that day. Rather than giving her our business we decided to walk ten miles to the nearest market. So I had ruined the pair of boots that I'd brought with me from the city because they were really "citified" kind of slick city boots that were meant to walk on flat surfaces. The first night there we drank some Raqui and I tried to climb the mountain and that was the end of those shoes. So he lent me these boots of his which were like Li'l Abner boots - like those big lace-up walking boots and a pair of Afghani socks which made my feet all purple at the end of the day and I laced them up around my ankles and I couldn't touch any - the only place my foot touched was on the bottom, you know, there was nothing rubbing in the back or the sides - they were huge and he wasn't very tall, either, come to think of it was kind of strange - I guess he had sort of webbed feet or something but we started off on this long trek to the village, I forget the name of it now, between Matala and the Racqlian -and started off in the cool of the morning and by the time we got halfway there we were just sweltering me in these thick Afghani socks and heavy woolens and everything, so we went into the ruins of King Phestos's palace to sit down and have a little bit of a rest and while we were there these two tourist buses pulled up and everybody got off the buses in kind of an unusual symmetry, you know, they all sort of walked alike and talked alike and they all kind of looked alike and they all filed over to a series of rubblely rocks- a wall that was beginning to crumble - lined themselves up in a row and took out their viewing glasses, overgrown opera glasses, and they started looking at the sky and suddenly this little speck appeared on the horizon that came closer and closer, this little black speck. Cary was standing behind all of this leaning on his cane and as it came into view he suddenly broke the silence of this big crowd and he yells out "it's ah MAAGPIE" in his best North Carolina drawl.and suddenly all the glasses went down in symmetry and everybody's heads turned around to reveal that they were all very birdlike looking people. They had long skinny noses - really - they had been watching birds so long that they looked like them, you know - and this one woman turned around and she says to him (in British accent) "it's NOT a magpie - it's a crooked crow." Then she very slowly and distinctly turned her head back, picked up her glasses and so did everybody else and we kept on walking. Bought two kilos of fish which would have rotted in the cave hadn't it been for the cats. When we got back from that walk Stelios, who was the guy who ran the Mermaid Cafe, had decided to put an addition on his kitchen which turned out to be really illegal and it was so illegal, as a matter of fact, that the Junta dragged him off to jail and torture was legal over there - they burnt his hands and his feet with cigarette butts mainly because they hated, you know, all of the Canadians and Americans and wandering Germans living in the caves but they couldn't get them out of there because it was controlled by the same archaeologist that controlled the ruins of King Phestos's palace and he didn't mind you living there as long as you didn't Day-Glo all of the caves and everyone was like putting all of their psychedelia over all this ancient writing. So they carted him off to jail and when we arrived..."(tape cuts off here) More Joni on Carey from the Vanity Fair interview - June 1997 at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/9706vf.cfm "I'd say that I was born with a gift of metaphor-which you can translate into any of the arts quite nicely-and a love of color: for the eyes, color for the ears. And I like colorful people. Some of the people that have remained in my life entered my life in a colorful way. Carey Raditz [the inspiration for the song "Carey"] blew out of a restaurant in Greece, literally. Kaboom! I heard, facing the sunset. I turned around and this guy is blowing out the door of this restaurant. He was a cook; he lit a gas stove and it exploded. Burned all the red hair off himself right through his white Indian turban. I went, 'That was an interesting entrance-I'll take note of that.' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:11:01 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Jimi & Dusty njc > Then they show a clip of Jimi singing with Dusty, subtitled - "Hendrix and > Dusty - only known existing footage". And it was indeed Mockingbird! > > Hell As Olympia Dukakis said in 'Moonstruck': 'Thank you! Thank you for answering my question!' Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:20:12 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Jimi & Dusty njc Mark wrote: > As Olympia Dukakis said in 'Moonstruck': 'Thank you! Thank you for > answering my question!' Personally, I like what she said in "Steel Magnolias" better: "If you can't say anything nice about anyone, come sit next to me!" Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:45:37 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Joni and Carey this is great kakki, thanks so much!...part of this transcription ("He's got sort of a flaming red personality, and flaming red hair and a flaming red appetite for red wine") helps to explain a line in Carey I always was curious about- "let's have another round for the bright red devil that keeps me in this tourist town" ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #182 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?