From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #174 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, April 21 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 174 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- FTR turned my life into a travelogue ["brian symes" ] Re: "Pornographic watch?" [colin ] Bree, we got the short end of the S&L VHS stick... ["S.M. Roque" ] Joni mondegreens ["Aldridge, Phil" ] Re: FTR turned my life into a travelogue [Randy Remote ] Re: Joni's voice, past and present, re: re: revisitig "Taming the Tiger." ["Timothy Spong" ] Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Today in Joni History: April 21 [Vince Lavieri ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: another member of the Sherelle fan club and Jonif... [RoseMJo] Elvis Live on XRT This Sunday [NJC] [Scott and Jody ] Re: Re: "Pornographic watch?" [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Yes News (NJC) [Relayer211@aol.com] NJC POD [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 02:46:50 -0500 From: "brian symes" Subject: FTR turned my life into a travelogue Yes FTR and how it ingrained it's songs into my soul for a four years until I got on a jet in 77 out of Boston to San Francisco to travel north up the Coast and find the Arbutus rustling. I Stopped in Southern Oregon when I met a blonde playing a dulcimer.She belonged to the Don Juan's Reckless Daughters and she made up her tunes for love and poured her sorrow into the sound hole. This Album was so simple and profound and I think it inspired so many other reckless daughters, just listen to all the Lilith Ladies plus Shawn and Johnatha Also compare the simple layout of the graphic package of this album. 11 or so artists are all thats credited on the back side, compare that to the army of people credited on todays CD jackets. Minor Earth News The Arbutus/Madrone trees is suffering from a bacterial blight that is fatal to mature trees here in the Pacific NW. The Trees you plant today will help breathe more healty air in the future. They grow all around Portland and I cry when I see them brown up and die. All right "Breakfest Barney" from YTMOIAR what does that mean? NP Pat Metheny, Speaking of Now, On Her Way - -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:15:41 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: "Pornographic watch?" Mark or Travis wrote: > > I'm so literal, I also thought it was really a pornographic watch. Kind > of > > like a Mikey Mouse watch, but with naked bodies as the hands of the clock. > > Then when he thought no one was looking, he would pull up his sleeve, and > > sneak a peak! > > > > Jack > > > > You're not the only one, Jack. This is what I always thought it was. > > Mark E in Seattle me too. can't see it any other way really. the line 'the priest with the pornographic watch' syas as much. If it is meant that he 'watches' others, then it is very strangely written. I think Joni can be obtuse but I don't think her command of language is that bad! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:22:02 -0400 From: "S.M. Roque" Subject: Bree, we got the short end of the S&L VHS stick... Bree gave me an excuse to watch my Shadows & Light video, since I couldn't remember seeing Toller skating with Joni. Well, my 60 minute long, Warner Home video of S&L, videotape edited by Rich Thorne at Pacific Video Industries, claimed to feature Toller in the credits, but the only hint of skating on the tape comes during "Coyote" when you see Joni and her ice skates getting into a sports car. I am also disappointed that this version of the video claims to feature "Edith and the Kingpin" on the box, yet we jump from "In France They Kiss on Main Street" to "Coyote". I am happy to have bought the LP version of S&L way back when, who woulda thunk that versions to follow would choose to edit out so much: no solo for Don on CD or VHS, no Jaco solo on CD, etc... _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 06:53:25 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Joni mondegreens You'll be bitten by the starry nun. (You'll be betting by the starting gun, from the song Number One) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:08:29 +0100 From: "Aldridge, Phil" Subject: Joni mondegreens My favourite is Dylan's "The Ants Are My Friends" (Blowin' In The Wind) and most obscure is "Keep on keeping on like a virulent flu" (Tangled Up In Blue). Those of you unfamiliar with the latter song might want to guess what the last two words should be. Always a fun thread. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:23:29 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: FTR turned my life into a travelogue brian symes wrote: > All right "Breakfest Barney" from YTMOIAR what does that mean? honey who need the static it hurts the head and you wind up cracking and the day goes dismal from Breakfast Barney to the sign-off prayer what a sorry face you have to wear I don't know if they still do this- radio (and TV) stations that are not 24 hr would end with a sign off prayer (Channel 85's Reverend 'Sport' Trendleburg is my favorite "pain, like fear, may simply be God's way of hurting us"). Breakfast Barney is the morning show DJ. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:39:16 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Bree, we got the short end of the S&L VHS stick... Thanks so much,Sylvia, for all your sleuthing. Also,mine just comes in a plain white sleeve/jacket. It says nothing. I bid on E-bay and won it. I'm going to me more cautious in the future with E-bay. This IS NOT the first time I have gotten stung. I bid and won for an autographed, Tom Hanks picture from Castaway, over a year ago and still have not gotten it. My complaint with S&L would be I want ALL what Joni intended for us to see.....I noticed she gets the editor's credit. I really don't regret the purchase though....I've enjoyed it many,many times over. (You have your own Joni-site?) Take care, Bree Np:Fleetwood Mac;Big Love >Well, my 60 minute long, Warner Home video of S&L, videotape edited by Rich >Thorne at Pacific Video Industries, claimed to feature Toller in the >credits, but the only hint of skating on the tape comes during "Coyote" >when >you see Joni and her ice skates getting into a sports car. >I am also disappointed that this version of the video claims to feature >"Edith and the Kingpin" on the box, yet we jump from "In France They Kiss >on >Main Street" to "Coyote". ______________________________________________________ >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:55:28 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Joni mondegreens NJC More than I care to remember. (Bree----who was taught twelve years by the great team of Sisters of Notre Dame) (Also,as I told someone,I try to forget the Ivory soap (incident)that I had to take a bite out of for chewing gum. Oh those were the days!!) Bree >You'll be bitten by the starry nun. > >(You'll be betting by the starting gun, from the song Number One) > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Deb Messling -^..^- >messling@enter.net >---------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:11:36 +0000 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Re: Joni's voice, past and present, re: re: revisitig "Taming the Tiger." On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Relayer211@aol.com wrote, Re: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger > > I think "clouds" is a wonderful album.Joni had such a beautiful voice >then.I'm one of the people who loved her high,pretty voice,and am not fond >of her current voice.I know not everyone feels the way I do about this >issue.I guess some say her voice has more "character" and "depth" now,but I >prefer her old voice.> ... and I agree, on the whole, except with " ... am not fond of her current voice." I like that, too, but still prefer the old voice, and think "Clouds" is a wonderful album. Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:35:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Denny Giovanetti Subject: Re: Joni mondegreens NJC A friend ran an open mic a few nights ago, & one of the singers did Paul Simon's "Tenderness," with the _revised_ line: "Honesty, Oh, honesty, it's such a waste of memory." Seemed pretty sincere about it, too. (It could've been a wish for an upgrade.) Denny, new to the list ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:45:48 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: is early joni really more melodic <<>>> Joni has said her early work is NOT more melodic/harmonic - it is simply WHITER melodic/harmonic. Even though I may have preferred a different sound on TTT - i love our Joan because she continues to explore. peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:43:20 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: is early joni really more melodic In a message dated 4/20/02 2:35:38 PM, davidsapp@peoplepc.com writes: >Joni has said her early work is NOT more melodic/harmonic - it is simply >WHITER melodic/harmonic. I don't know what this means. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:07:00 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Re: is early joni really more melodic i recall joni explaining that her early work was more influenced by english and german harmonic structure, while her later work incorporated a more jazzy harmonic structure which is essentially african-american and perhaps not as familar to the caucasian ear, but actually contains more melody and more complex harmonies. peace, david > >Joni has said her early work is NOT more melodic/harmonic - it is simply > >WHITER melodic/harmonic. > > > I don't know what this means. > > -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:49:26 -0400 From: "marianne marianne" Subject: Jack, Joni and Yes Merk54@aol.com wrote: Subject: My connection with Joni and Yes >All of this talk about Joni and Yes . . . >It probably wasn't quite what my seventeen year old mind was looking >for, >but she >gave me a gift that changed my life, and a night that I will always > >remember! >Bless you Karen, where ever you are. >Jack I loved your story Jack. :) Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:44:06 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger I'm commenting today on Fred Simon's post. While I am hesitant to admit this because there are some very wise and talented people right here on this list who love the VG-8, I have to agree. Fred, you're talking like an audiophile here. This idea of tiny variations being missing is very hard to describe but it's real to me.... Fred Simon said > >>>>>>>>Synths > lack the ever-changing, nearly infinite amount of minute variations and > nuances in sound that acoustic and electro-acoustic instruments have. > Microscopic details of tone in every millisecond of time convey a > vast range > of emotion and musicality that synths can't.>>>>>>>>>> Lama who's realized that his contributions are redundant. Since I agree with almost every thing Fred Simon and David Lahm say about music, and nearly everything Kakki says about politics, I'll be focussing on "Me Too!" posts exclusively, eh? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:50:39 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: band "Over The Rhine" on tour this summer, njc I love these guys. Want to give my Joni buddies the heads-up as we middle Americas say..... Portland, OR ============ May 03 at the Crocodile Cafe at 2200 2nd Ave. San Francisco ============= Great American Music Hall at 859 O'Farrell St. San Diego ========= May 10th at "The Casbah" at 2501 Kettner Blvd. This is an early show with the doors opening at 6:30 and Over The Rhine beginning at 7PM! Los Angeles =========== May 11th at the "Knitting Factory" at 7021 Hollywood Blvd. details at overtherhine.com (of course) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:44:07 EDT From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Re: another member of the Sherelle fan club and Jonifest!! I also think Sherelle's CD is fantastic, as I said a long while ago when I first heard it. AND..........Lieve had a GREAT idea!!! Sherelle would very much love to go to Jonifest this year, but is having a challenge making it work financially. What if everyone that received her wonderful demo CD and has SO enjoyed being able to play it over and over again donated whatever they felt they could towards the Jonifest scholarship fund *IN HER NAME*???? These special donations would be held aside separately towards getting Sherelle there. Her greatest desire is to collaborate musically with other list members. So......if you are so inclined to do this, please make the check out to: "Ashara Productions, LLC" and please make sure to include a note specifying that it is to go in Sherelle's name. (Or if a certain percentage is to go towards Sherelle, mention that as well.) Of course, any and all donations are greatly appreciated!! Please send to: Ashara Productions, LLC 40 Parsonage Lane Topsfield, MA 01983 Also, please note that May 1st I will start to award scholarship/work study money. Please get your pledges in before then if possible so I can see what I have to work with, and if you "need" scholarship money, please make sure you have filled out the forms and have your deposit in by that date. Thanks!!!!!! And thanks to Lieve for the GREAT suggestion! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 20:22:28 EDT From: Jodcrazee@aol.com Subject: what did she say? Before I looked at the lyrics I thought "Shine your light on me miss Liberty . . ." was "shine your light on me mister birdy . . ." Silly kid Julie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 21:33:40 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni mondegreens NJC <> Hiya Denny, & welcome! "Blind Lemon Pledge"? Sounds like you've got a sense of humor I can appreciate! Look forward to hearing more outta ya... Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "Letterbox" 3/18/01 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 21:49:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Pornographic watch?" <> That's an interesting take on it, Lori. But I think if this were the case, she would have said: Like a Priest ON a pornographic watch, instead of "with"...nit-picky I know, but the use of "with" implies a possession to me. I'm in the camp that interprets this one pretty literally. Either way, the Priest is doing something he ought not to be doing... This is one of those fabulous lyrical moments that only Joni could conjure up. Bob NP: TMBG, "Mr. Tambourine Man" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:49:28 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Yes News (NJC) Happy Weekend All!!! Some great fecking news just came my way and I thought I would share with all you Yes Folk out there. I love Rick's contributions to the band and it will be great to see him again. If they don't come here I may be coming to your city to see them. Love Paz NP-Willie-Jack Neilson on my piano > > YESWORLD: The Yes Online Service > UPDATE: April 19, 2002 > > > > RICK WAKEMAN REJOINS YES > > Yes, it's finally official! Rick Wakeman will rejoin Yes for their forthcoming tour of North America beginning on July 16th. > > According to Chris Squire, "We are very excited to have Rick joining us on this tour; it's been something that the fans have wanted to see for quite sometime, and we are happy to be playing with him again. Yes will tour with this classic lineup, the identical one from the peak of Yes' long career. > > "I am so looking forward to this tour and hope that it may be just the start of more exciting musical events to come," says Rick. "There is no greater band in the world and it's always an honor to walk on stage as part of Yes. This time around there is no doubt it will be something special". > > Yes will present a concert experience featuring the band's epic masterpieces as well as classic Yes tunes. The tour kicks off on July 16th in Seattle, WA. Tour dates, including YesWorld presales will be found on the Tour page as soon as they are confirmed. > > --------- > > YesWorld > > Web Site: > http://yesworld.com > > Contact: > webmaster@yesworld.com > > To be removed from the YesWorld mailing list email yes@yesworld.com > with unsubscribe in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 23:52:15 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Today in Joni History: April 21 Today in Joni history: on this date in 2001, Joni Mitchell revealed that the phrase "porographic watch" was actually a modegreen of "pornograpgic swatch" and her intent was to protest Swatch's illegal and immoral use of radio frequencies. Mitchell adds that "Sex Kills" was intended to be "Swatch Kills" but the watchmaker successfully intimidated her record company, something that Exxon was not able to do. Swatch's intimidation was successful because Ted Turner of Reprise - Time Warner has a paranoid fear of Sputnik, as does former Mithcell husband and musical partner Larry Klein. In fact, Klein's continued fear of the Russian Space Control Centre was so deep, and left him so unable to function, that Mitchell had to force Klein to take Prozac before their 2000 tour, which explains the otherwise obscure reference to Klein as a "Mad Russian on Prozac" at every tour stop. Today in Joni history: on this date in 2002, Joni Mitchell announces that if you think this is lame, even more lame things are to come until the real Joni History is restored, even at the risk of getting 418 of them a day. Hell, for one day we all got to brag about all the email we got. Communications Swatch's satellite broadcasts upset radio amateurs SWATCH, the Swiss watchmaker, has outraged radio amateurs around the world by planning to take over some of their frequencies as part of a promotional campaign, writes Mark Prigg. The company is to use a replica of the 1950s Sputnik satellite to transmitmessages submitted by visitors to its web site. Text, audio and web pages will be sent to the satellite and broadcast from next week. However, according to Rob Carlson, an American radio enthusiast who is co-ordinating a campaign against the Swatch satellite, the plan is illegal. He says: "There are strict guidelines as to what can and can't be done with radio frequencies, and Swatch doesn't seem to have checked that. The frequencies it plansto use cannot be used for commercial activities, so we plan to stop it from breaking the rules. We are writing to all of the bodies in charge of frequencies to point out this illegal activity. "The whole point of this satellite was to allow amateurs to practise tracking objects in space, in preparation for our efforts to track the International Space Station. Now, if the Swatch plan goes ahead, radio amateurs will boycott tracking the satellite so no data will be collected," he says. Carlson is also organising a boycott of Swatch products by radio amateurs worldwide. The football-sized satellite was taken last week to the Russian Mir space station aboard a Progress craft. It is due to be launched by hand on Friday by a Russian cosmonaut. The satellite will then circle Mir as it orbits Earth. Up to10 messages, each of about seven seconds, will be transmitted, and new messages beamed up every day. The battery-powered unit has a 30-day life. The satellite, officially called RS-19 but dubbed Beatnik by Swatch, will constantly transmit messages on the 148.800-146.000Mhz band. According to Roger Smith, head of the International Telecommunications Union's(ITU) space science department: "The frequencies mentioned are reserved for amateur use, so if there is a breach of that, we will look into it. "We don't monitor the airwaves looking for new signals, but we do compile a register of frequencies and who is using them, so we can ensure that misuse and possible interference between satellites doesn't happen," he says. Radio amateurs now say they are approaching America's Federal Communications Commission, which in turn will raise the complaints with the ITU. Swatch claims the satellite will not be used for advertising or commercial purposes and that none of the messages contains the brand name Swatch. A Swatch spokesman says: "The idea came about because we wanted to send messages into space and to as many people as possible. The messages are not advertising, and we see this as being totally in tune with the spirit of open communication embodied by radio amateurs. This is a great opportunity for amateur radio to appeal to a wider audience." However, the company's web site says all messages must contain the word "beat" or they will not be considered for transmission. Beat has been trademarked by Swatch as part of its campaign to establish a Nettime standard. The company divided the day into "beats", each lasting 1.38 minutes, and hopes to appeal to Net users by providing a single worldwide time they can use on their computers. The company's first watches using the Beat system go on sale in Britain this month. The Beatnik satellite was originally built by Amsat France, an amateur satellite organisation that believed it was being made solely for amateur use. However, the Russian Space Control Centre decided to allow Swatch to put its messages on board. According to Bernard Pidoux, president of Amsat France, the organisation has now joined the protest against Swatch. He claims he was "duped" by the Russian authorities who arranged the Swatch deal in secret. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:26:38 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: another member of the Sherelle fan club and Jonif... In a message dated 4/20/02 7:45:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AsharaProducLLC@aol.com writes: > What if everyone that received her wonderful demo CD and has SO enjoyed > being able to play it over and over again donated whatever they felt they > could towards the Jonifest scholarship fund *IN HER NAME*???? These special > donations would be held aside separately towards getting Sherelle there. > Her greatest desire is to collaborate musically with other list members. > I think it's a great idea. Like I told her, I sure would love to hear that voice LIVE and meet Sherelle. Love the CD! Thanks again Sherelle. rose in nj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:28:45 -0400 From: Scott and Jody Subject: Elvis Live on XRT This Sunday [NJC] Hi! Just thought I'd pass this along for any of you Elvis fans in the Chicago area that may not have heard this. Tune into 93XRT this Sunday afternoon starting at about Noon as special guest, Elvis Costello joins Frank E. Lee for an extended visit. Elvis will be performing live in our studios, talking about his career, including his future tour plans, and will also be playing guest DJ, including previewing songs from his forthcoming album, "When I Was Cruel," due for release this coming Tuesday. We have all the info you need right here to find out how you can be a part of the 93XRT/Bud Light Free Concert! jody NP - mondegreen - Botticelli *Nut Boy* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 23:42:30 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Patti Elvis (NJC) Has anyone heard of an artist in the Chicago area called Patti Elvis? I amy not have the spelling right but I think that is the name. A friend of mine when to see her and was just raving about the show. She called tonight and I got to talk to this looney on the phone which was really funny. Apparently she plays in a jazz club in downtown Chicago and I thought maybe Fred Simon or someone might have heard of her. Peace Michael NP-nada ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:38:41 -0400 From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: "Pornographic watch?" In a message dated Sat, 20 Apr 2002 9:50:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: Either way, the Priest is doing >something he ought not to be doing... > > Sadly,this is a timely subject... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:36:07 -0400 From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: Yes News (NJC) In a message dated Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:42:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael Paz writes: >> >> RICK WAKEMAN REJOINS YES >> >> Yes, it's finally official! Rick Wakeman will rejoin Yes for their >forthcoming tour of North America beginning on July 16th. >> >> According to Chris Squire, "We are very excited to have Rick joining us on >this tour; it's been something that the fans have wanted to see for quite >sometime, and we are happy to be playing with him again. Yes will tour with >this classic lineup, the identical one from the peak of Yes' long career. >> >> "I am so looking forward to this tour and hope that it may be just the >start of more exciting musical events to come," says Rick. "There is no >greater band in the world and it's always an honor to walk on stage as part >of Yes. This time around there is no doubt it will be something special". >> >> Yes will present a concert experience featuring the band's epic >masterpieces as well as classic Yes tunes. The tour kicks off on July 16th >in Seattle, WA. Tour dates, including YesWorld presales will be found on the >Tour page as soon as they are confirmed. >> >> --------- >> >> YesWorld >> >> Web Site: >> http://yesworld.com >> >> Contact: >> webmaster@yesworld.com >> >> To be removed from the YesWorld mailing list email yes@yesworld.com >> with unsubscribe in the body of the message. > great news!!!thanks for posting!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:41:23 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: NJC POD When the Grammies were given, meaningless things that they are, I was bothered by how many folks posted that they did not keep up with the current popular musical scene because it was so lightweight. Always bugs me when we Lawrence Welk our own generation's music ( for those of us who are of a certian age), or in any way repeat our parents' mistakes in thinking that "our" music had meaning as opposed to all the crap that is out there "today", or get into our own little musical enclaves that we are not in touch with what is happening in the musical lives of so many, especially young people, today. Of course I can prove that I am really wacked out because my last album purchases were Linkin Park, Nickleback, and Lifehouse, my next will be POM, and I think that folks like Diana Kroll are merely marketing ploys by corporations who know that our generation is a niche market for those who think that current pop music is declasse but have outgrown Yanni. (Fortunately, I have a Chicago Tribune article that backs me up on that last one about Kroll, before I get attacked.) So for those who think that the last significant song of social meaning was Neil Young's "Ohio" (which is a great song, no question) and that the current music pop song is all so jejune as opposed to the music of our day, and who think that the kids today have nothing compared to us in our great political awareness, the following are the lyrics of "Youth of the Nation" by POD. I have yet to be with anyone under 20 who doesn't start singing along with this "top ten song" when it comes on the radio - a fact that picqued my interest when I began to figure out what the words were -- if you have any contact with young people today, or remember the fervent conversations in the JMDL after Columbine, read on... (the Rev) Vince Youth of the Nation by POD Last day of the rest of my life I wish I would've known Cause I didn't kiss my mama goodbye I didn't tell her that I loved her and how much I care Or thank my pops for all the talks And all the wisdom he shared Unaware, I just did what I always do Everyday, the same routine Before I skate off to school But who knew that this day wasn't like the rest Instead of taking a test I took two to the chest Call me blind, but I didn't see it coming Everybody was running But I couldn't hear nothing Except gun blasts, it happened so fast I don't really know this kid Even though I sit by him in class Maybe this kid was reaching out for love Or maybe for a moment He forgot who he was Or maybe this kid just wanted to be hugged Whatever it was I know it's because [chorus:] We are, We are, the youth of the nation Little Suzy, she was only twelve She was given the world With every chance to excel Hang with the boys and hear the stories they tell She might act kind of proud But no respect for herself She finds love in all the wrong places The same situations Just different faces Changed up her pace since her daddy left her She deserved much better Johnny boy always played the fool He broke all the rules So you would think he was cool He was never really one of the guys No matter how hard he tried Often thought of suicide It's kind of hard when you ain't got no friends He put his life to an end They might remember him then You cross the line and there's no turning back Told the world how he felt With the sound of a gat [chorus] Who's to blame for the lives that tragedies claim No matter what you say It don't take away the pain That I feel inside, I'm tired of all the lies Don't nobody know why It's the blind leading the blind I guess that's the way the story goes Will it ever make sense Somebody's got to know There's got to be more to life than this There's got to be more to everything I thought exists ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:18:22 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger Yea yea yea. We've heard it all before. Let me get my big violin out and accompany you on this tired old song. There is nothing in the world like an acoustic guitar, but this new fangled thing is so cool and so much deeper than anyone has managed to express here as of yet. One of my VG-8's is on tour right now (currently playing at Mark D.'s house after a held over few weeks at Sue's place) and I am sure he (as well as she) is gaining so much from having it to actually play with as opposed to hearing Joni's patches on her records and live recordings or hearing someone else saying how incredible the device really is. Perhaps you should sign up for the VG-8 Clinic at AsharaFest this year. Love Paz on 4/20/02 2:44 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama) at jlamadoo@fuse.net wrote: > I'm commenting today on Fred Simon's post. While I am hesitant > to admit this because there are some very wise and talented > people right here on this list who love the VG-8, I have to > agree. Fred, you're talking like an audiophile here. This idea > of tiny variations being missing is very hard to describe but > it's real to me.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:21:40 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Yes News (NJC) > > Yes will present a concert experience featuring the band's epic > masterpieces as well as classic Yes tunes. The tour kicks off on July 16th > in Seattle, WA. Tour dates, including YesWorld presales will be found on the > Tour page as soon as they are confirmed. Oooooo!!!! I've never seen them live! Mark E in SEATTLE!!! (or close enough) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #174 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?