From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #173 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, April 20 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 173 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger [FredNow@aol.com] This missionary position [Gordon Mackie ] Re: revisiting Taming the Tiger ["owen.duff" ] Re: Bob Muller's coming to NYC on Sat. April 27 NJC ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger [Lori in MD ] Joni mondegreens [claud9 ] Re: Joni mondegreens [FMYFL@aol.com] re: Joni on Interview with Rosie ["c Karma" ] Groupies (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Re: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger [Reuben3rd@aol.com] Re: Joni mondegreens [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni mondegreens [Lori in MD ] Sad News [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Sad News [Janet Hess ] Re: Joni mondegreens [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Joni mondegreens [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger [WARREN901@aol.com] Re: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger [Relayer211@aol.com] "Pornographic watch?" [Relayer211@aol.com] Revisiting Taming the Tiger ["kerry" ] Today in History: April 20th [Vince Lavieri ] Re: "Pornographic watch?" [Lori in MD ] Stevie and the Man From Mars NJC [Mags N Brei ] Re: Joni on Interview with Rosie [FredNow@aol.com] Re: "Pornographic watch?" [Merk54@aol.com] Re: "Pornographic watch?" ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Joni on Interview with Rosie - now njc ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #171 - TTT, Chanting & Rosie [BRYAN8847@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 03:04:10 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger hell@ihug.co.nz writes: >Mrk wrote: > >> Nobody ever says this about 'Hejira' or 'Clouds' or any record that Joni >> played acoustic guitar on. Why? >> >> Inquiring TTT fans want to know. > >For what it's worth, I don't like Clouds that much, either! Hejira is >in a totally different category - it's the words that make it a masterpiece, >not the music (IMO). Well, you're wrong (insert emoticon here). It's the words and the music that make it a masterpiece. >I guess it's the sound of the VG-8 that I don't like, rather than the fact >that all the songs sound the same. It just seems to overpower the song in some >way - I can't explain it too well, I just know that if I heard these songs played >on a regular acoustic guitar (the slower songs, I mean) I'd probably like >them a whole lot more. I think there are two separate issues here. The VG-8 is problematic in the way that all synths have always been problematic when compared with acoustic or even electro-acoustic (i.e., regular electric guitar) instruments. Synths lack the ever-changing, nearly infinite amount of minute variations and nuances in sound that acoustic and electro-acoustic instruments have. Microscopic details of tone in every millisecond of time convey a vast range of emotion and musicality that synths can't. But the other reason I would never say that Clouds or Hejira sound "all the same" as I would about TTT is because of my now annoyingly repetitive complaint about the lack of melodic/harmonic inspiration and invention in Joni's later work. Hejira definitely has an overall sonic sameness (inherent in its design and part of its genius) -- multi-tracked electric and acoustic guitars, Jaco's liquid bass, minimal percussion, vibraphone, Joni's long recitative-like melodies -- and this sameness is a far richer tapestry than synths can impart. Also, within this sonic sameness is an abundance of inspired melodic/harmonic invention and interest. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:12:45 +0100 From: Gordon Mackie Subject: This missionary position >Willy, my child, my father... > >Joni compared to Dr Livingstone. C'mon Willy, surely its more like >Gladys Aylward..only in the sense of the 1958 film starring Ingrid >Bergman...always thought Joni looked a bit Bergmanesque esp on the >Hejira cover. > >Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:11:34 +0100 From: "owen.duff" Subject: Re: revisiting Taming the Tiger > Nobody ever says this about 'Hejira' or 'Clouds' or any record that Joni > played acoustic guitar on. Why? > > Inquiring TTT fans want to know. Well I don't know if this would be the main reason but from my recollection most, if not all of the songs on TTT are in the same key (C I think). I know this, combined with the lack of production on most of the songs after the first two, lead to me feeling every song sounded the same. TTT is the only Joni CD I haven't taken to university with me, and I haven't missed it once, save for MFM - I'd *LOVE* to hear the 'Grace of My Heart' version of MFM. Owen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:19:37 -0400 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: Bob Muller's coming to NYC on Sat. April 27 NJC DAG GONNIT!! I Am going away that day to Jersey to a friends beach house to celebrate my birthday. :( I guess you cant have it all. Well, If I wasnt doing that, hanging with everyone at the Living Room would hvae been a great time. Blair :) > >Hey dudes, sorry for the njc, but I wanted everyone to see this, so please >forgive me, eh? >Mullerman is coming to the Big Apple and he's set aside his Saturday night >to >hang with us for a while. I was thinking maybe we could all meet at the >Living Room, 84 Stanton Street, say 7PM??? > > > Located in Manhattanbs Lower East Side, on the corner of Stanton and >Allen, > > the Living Room offers both musicians and audience members an intimate >and > > comfortable atmosphere combined with a state of the art sound system. > > http://www.livingroomny.com/ > >and admission is free, just a one drink minimum per show! >so whadaya say? Kay, Patrick, Debra, Nikki, Gregg and anyone else is sure >welcome to join us. >any other ideas? > > > The lineup for Saturday night...... > > >7 McGowan >8 Danny Schmidt >9 Greg Fine >10 Johnny Cuomo >11 Blue Umbrella >12 Ana Egge > > > > > > Saturday Apr 27, 2002 > > > > > > Ana >Ege > > > > > > > > HREF="http://webtunes.com/results.cfm?Dates__BandName=Greg%20Fine&">Greg >Fine > > > > > > > > HREF="http://webtunes.com/results.cfm?Dates__BandName=Blue%20Umbrella&">Blue >Umbrella > > >rose from nj _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:32:52 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History: April 19th <<2002: Joni announces that she will join the Blink 182 and Green Day tour, performing mostly material from Dog Eat Dog.>> Good one, Rev! Surely they'll encore with Big Yellow Taxi, as Green Day included it as a staple of their live shows, and Billy Joe's former band, Pinhead Gunpowder, recorded a punked-up studio version. Keep the history updates comin' Rev! Bob NP: Del Beazley, "Big Yellow Taxi" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:36:31 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: Bob Muller's coming to NYC on Sat. April 27 Thanks, Rosalita...I know that Stephen Elliott will also be a part of the gathering. Blair, whaddya say? Bob, getting pretty darn excited... NP: The Care Package, "Woodstock" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:06:56 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: shadows and light I had tried unsuccessfully to order the S&L video a couple of years ago, perhaps from Amazon (motivated by a gift certificate ;-)). Then, I got a GC from a different source circa this past September, and tried again in October. It was pretty pricey on VHS (cheaper on "DVD), and I was surprised when it arrived just before Christmas - Japanese version, with Japanese lettering as well as English on the cover. It was a complete version, I believe, and the quality was fine. As compared to the record, there is a solo by Jaco (none by Don) and she does Raised on Robbery, but the last two "album" cuts (Woodstock and GMBABM) as well as Dreamland are not shown. I do not know the Santa Barbara County Bowl from a hole in the ground, so I cannot confirm the venue (the audience was noticeably young to my old eyes). It does have the opening video scenes from Rebel W/O, as well as the Frankie Lymon shots, the Coyote video, and the Hejira video with Toller Cranston, the Amelia shots, Las Vegas on DCFDM, and the appearance by Art Nouveau, etc.) She looked gorgeous (I would underscore this by noting that, given the critical hits she had been taking at that time, her countenance seemed unfettered throughout the performances - here was a person doing exactly what she wanted and was meant to be doing, with no apparent regrets). Are there other versions of the video out there ? Bob S. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:26:54 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Bob Muller's coming to NYC 4/27 I would be honored to join you for this. Rose, need I do anything more than stay up on the e-mails ? Bob S. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:29:48 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Judy Collins / Wildflowers / Albatross - SJC FredNow@aol.com wrote: > > > Wildflowers has always been one of my favorites, and my first introduction to > Joni's amazing songs. But Judy's stand very well next to them, particularly > the beautiful and bittersweet "Since You Asked." > > -Fred Fred, When I was a senior in high school I got the lead in our musical. We spent afternoons in the auditorium building sets and Wildflowers was always on the record player. When I started "singing for my supper" ,Since You've Asked was on the top of my playlist. Wildflowers and Living are forever in my cd player. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:52:50 -0400 From: "S.M. Roque" Subject: Re: shadows and light Bree wrote: ".....you had mentioned Toller skating with Joni? I thought,Hmmmm.... I don't find this on my copy. I bought mine on E-bay last summer. I just finished watching from beginning to end and he ain't there.(unless he is skating out on the bleachers) I think I got screwed! There is a white sticker on the cassette.. besides the running time of 60 minutes (is your copy 60 mins.?) it says:Promotional Use Only........" My VHS copy of "Shadows & Light" is 60 minutes long ut it says nothing about being for promo use. I'll watch the tape today to see if it features Toller skating. Sylvia http://forums.delphiforums.com/JoniMitchell/start _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger Kakki wrote: > TTT did not knock me out in its totality but I felt there > was a whole lot of brillance in it and wonder how I'll > feel about it years from now. That's a very good point, Kakki. Afterall, there are folks who didn't like DJRD when it was released, but who realize its (obvious) brilliance now. TTT may grow on me. Btw, I wrote: > Kakki may be an exception ... J That "J" was meant to be a Wingdings smile. Lori ~ Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:30:49 -0400 From: claud9 Subject: Joni mondegreens Just bought a little book - 2nd-hand - of mondegreens to have a good giggle on the flight back to Holland tonight. For those who don't know the word: mondegreen are song lines that you always believed were different from what they actually were. Some gems: Percy Sledge: When a man loves a walnut (title of the book) Allman Brothers: Lord, I was born an M&M Jimi Hendrix: 'Scuse me when I kiss this guy As far as Joni goes ... Claudia told me that - in her German years - she always thought that Joni sang: "I was raised on rubber beans." Any more Joni mondegreens? I remember we had this thread in the early days of the list, but there are so many new faces around now. John aka the Dutch Uncle (sending this from Claud's computer, so I won't be able to read any answers sent off list via the reply button; my off-list e-mail address in the Netherlands is john.van.tiel@wxs.nl) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:58:39 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni mondegreens In a message dated 4/19/2002 10:31:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, claud9@comcast.net writes: > As far as Joni goes ... Claudia told me that - in her German years - she > always thought that Joni sang: "I was raised on rubber beans." > LOL Uncle John! Perfect thread for National Humor Day! Also on C&S, I used to sing "It all comes down to Hugh" :~) Jimmy (hoping to get a far away glimpse of the Atlantis space shuttle coming home) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:00:46 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Joni on Interview with Rosie I was at that taping 2pm April 4, 2000. During the rehearsal before the taping, I sat 4 rows behind Rosie in the empty theater. She turned around to see who was blowing out her ear drums with whooping at the song's end, and looked at me as if to say, "save it for the tape." It was magical and obviously for me and for Rosie, memorable. CC _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:15:21 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Groupies (NJC) Lindsay wrote: >(Hey, it was better than MTV's show 'The Secret Life of >Groupies' and chronicling all their escapades in the '70's and '80's. Oh, >whatever.) Damn! I missed it! :) - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 11:17:19 -0400 From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger >Nobody ever says this about 'Hejira' or 'Clouds' or any record that Joni >played acoustic guitar on. Why? > >Inquiring TTT fans want to know. > >Mark E in SeattleI For me its because most of the tracks sound like variations of the same song. I noticed that when Joni started playing live again on talk shows, etc., she played a variety of songs from different periods that all were in the same key (is this the right word, I'm extrememly non musical). Harry's House sounded like Facelift which sounded like someting else, etc. etc. She played them together because it was easier than switching gears completely. TTT was like a whole album of these, but new material. I, too, was only "whelmed" by TTT. Some standouts though..."Love Puts On A New Face" is one of my all- time Joni faves. Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 11:22:37 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni mondegreens <> There's always the classic: "Tastes very nice, food of the parking lot" :~) Have a great trip back, John my brother...I still owe you some files, will be sending them over today. Bob NP: Roberto Ottaviano, "Sweet Sucker Dance" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:32:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: Joni mondegreens > Any more Joni mondegreens? I remember we had this thread > in the early days of the list, but there are so many new faces > around now. This is always a fun thread, John! (Hi Claudia!) Since you mentioned all the new faces (belated welcome, everyone!), we can also start a pretty good game of "Guess what song I was listening to when I thought Joni sang:" "I left my man at a North Dakota junk shop." "Butter jelly nut roll" Others? Lori in Bethesda, MD ~ Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:47:13 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Sad News Apologies to Joni-onlies, but I thought there might be some people on Joni-only that would want to know....One of our list members, Ric, from the Boston area, lost his wife on the 17th. As many of you may remember, Judy was diagnosed with a brain tumor several years ago, and was given only a short time to live. She was an incredible fighter, and was determined to be around for as long as possible for their 2 girls and Ric. The whole family was amazing as they kept Judy home and cared for her with deep love and patient understanding. They have been a true inspiration to me in the time I've kept up with Ric ever since I met him through this list many years ago. Many will remember him from the many Jonifests he has attended at my house. Ric's e-mail address, if you'd like to offer condolences: Hugs and sad tears, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:41:41 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: Sad News >Thank you for being the gentle bearer of difficult news, Ashara. Love goes out to Ric and the girls. Hugs and a soft paw, Janet and Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty, sitting pensively - ----------------- So when you see a man who's broken / Pick him up and carry him. And when you see a woman who's broken / Put her all into your arms 'Cause we don't know where we come from / We don't know what we are. Laurie Anderson, "Ramon" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:11:07 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni mondegreens Uncle John asks: << Any more Joni mondegreens? >> "Look at this town, the snowmen left . . ." (I think of this line a lot in springtime.) Have a nice trip, John! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 11:26:20 -0700 (PDT) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: Joni mondegreens and at first I thought it was "He was drinking 40 version" (figuring maybe it was another way of saying 40 proof...:-) lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:44:02 EDT From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger gosh, all this talk about TTT ! it has certainly been of interest to hear exactly why people are not overly fond of this release. i've probably said this before but i feel it is worth repeating , when asked what is your favorite joni album i always reply , " whatever one i happen to be listening to at the time! " it really is true for me. i will say that after TI, which gets alot of airplay from me, i was just a tad disappointed in TTT. ( it quickly grew on me.) i can identify with some of the points made for and against the work as a whole. i beleive it was kakki who mentioned joni had wanted a lush orchestra for TTT, odd she should say this , i found myself wanting to turn up the volume when i played it thinking there was something in the music i was missing. ( ie. a distinction of the different instruments being played.) then i just settled on the opinion that it was just joni experimenting with her new plaything.( the VG-8 ) i personally do think the lyrics are wonderful. who wouldn't be moved by: he wrote, " i wish you were with me here the leaves are electric they burn on the river bank countless, heatless flames ! " i said, " well, send me some pictures then and i'll paint pyrotechnic explosions of your autumn till we meet again i miss your touch and your lips so much... i long for your next embrace ! " i mean...i don't know about any of you but i've got gooseflesh going on here !!! i do think TTT has many strong points and they balance out the weak ones. some of joni's work is a little more realized than others , but what fun it is to go on any journey which joni wants me to take. i will say without joni i wouldn't have gone some of the places i been musically and my life would be less rich for it. again i will say my favorite joni album is whatever one i am listening to at the moment ! bring on the joni, warren keith p.s. for those of you who haven't heard cassandra wilson's new release i'd hardily recommend it ! ( if it weren't for joni i might have missed this wonderful artist ! ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:42:42 -0400 From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Revisiting Taming The Tiger I think "clouds" is a wonderful album.Joni had such a beautiful voice then.I'm one of the people who loved her high,pretty voice,and am not fond of her current voice.I know not everyone feels the way I do about this issue.I guess some say her voice has more "character" and "depth" now,but I prefer her old voice. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:45:49 -0400 From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: "Pornographic watch?" What is a "pornographic watch"?I've been wondering about that recently. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:54:28 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Revisiting Taming the Tiger Hell wrote: >I never liked Man From Mars since I found out it was about a >cat, and the title song is just silly (kitty, kitty.....). This is blasphemy coming from a cat lover! ;>) I liked it MORE after hearing that it was about a cat. Oh my god, we're actually disagreeing about something! Kerry NP - Bonnie Raitt - "Wherever You May Be" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:14 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Today in History: April 20th On this date in alternate Joni history: Joni Mitchell tried country club life, seeking to be Chuck Mitchell's domestic spouse and housekeeper. However, she is so enraged at the decision against the Detroit Boat Club - which means that Joni will never be able to build a cabana on Lake St. Claire and fulfill her dream as a suburban matron - that she puts down her apron, picks up a guitar, heads to downtown Detroit to sing the blues, and the rest, as they say, is history. Issues: Claims of fraud in the inducement and misrepresentation Court: Michigan Court of Appeals (Unpublished) Case Name: Detroit Boat Club v. Shore Club Apartments & Marina e-Journal Number: 14590 Judge(s): Per Curiam - Doctoroff, Cavanagh, and Gage The trial court did not err in granting defendants summary disposition on the basis of the alleged misrepresentation because there was no genuine issue of material fact regarding the misrepresentation related to defendant-Gatzaros's statement that his offer to build a facility for plaintiff was subject to zoning approval. Plaintiff argued the misrepresentation was premised on Gatzaros's statements the rezoning of the property at issue would not be a problem because he had a relationship with the City of St. Clair Shores where the facility was to be built. The court concluded the representation regarding the likelihood of success of a request for rezoning was clearly not based on a statement of past or existing fact, and was more like a promise Gatzaros did not keep. A claim for misrepresentation predicated on such a fact must fail. Affirmed. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:11:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: "Pornographic watch?" > What is a "pornographic watch"?I've been wondering about that recently. I've always visualized a priest "on watch," checking out working girls (or boys), or stealing a glance at porno publications, and hoping not to be caught. "Like a priest with a pornographic watch Looking and longing on the sly Sure it's stricken from your uniform But you can't get it out of your eyes" Lori ~ Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Stevie and the Man From Mars NJC - --- kerry wrote: <<< I liked it MORE after > hearing that it was about a cat.>>> and I liked it even more after I heard our very own Steve Polifka's beautiful, touching rendition ... heart wrenching! (in a good way Stevie!) love, Mags, who is really getting tired of feeling sick :-( np: you guessed it...*prrrrrrr* ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:17:20 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on Interview with Rosie Lindsay Moon writes: >While channel surfing tonight, I happened upon Diane Sawyer interviewing >Rosie O'Donnell and for some reason continued to watch it (why, I don't >know. I don't really care that much about Ms. O'Donnell) ... > ...' and then they cued up a small excerpt from BSN! For once, watching >crap TV paid off. Yeah, it was great to hear that Joni excerpt, not to mention hearing Wayne Shorter on mainstream TV. But this wasn't crap TV, and possibly you should care about Ms. O'Donnell. I know that my opinion of her zoomed way up learning that her unflagging efforts to overturn Florida's archaic law against adoption of children by gay parents seem to now be paying off. Two state senators have introduced a bill to void the law, and her very visible activism, both on "crap" TV and in several full page newspaper ads, had a lot to do with this. I applaud her, and wish every celebrity would use their fame as effectively for social good. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:48:18 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: "Pornographic watch?" I'm so literal, I also thought it was really a pornographic watch. Kind of like a Mikey Mouse watch, but with naked bodies as the hands of the clock. Then when he thought no one was looking, he would pull up his sleeve, and sneak a peak! Jack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 18:30:31 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: "Pornographic watch?" > I'm so literal, I also thought it was really a pornographic watch. Kind of > like a Mikey Mouse watch, but with naked bodies as the hands of the clock. > Then when he thought no one was looking, he would pull up his sleeve, and > sneak a peak! > > Jack > You're not the only one, Jack. This is what I always thought it was. Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 18:34:30 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni on Interview with Rosie - now njc Two state senators have introduced a bill > to void the law, and her very visible activism, both on "crap" TV and in > several full page newspaper ads, had a lot to do with this. I applaud her, > and wish every celebrity would use their fame as effectively for social good. > > -Fred > And I say 'right on, Fred!' Rosie's whole stand on this issue & her courage in coming out & speaking up have been sterling & admirable. She has been articulate & presented herself as an intelligent, well-balanced person who is a dedicated, capable & loving parent. I know some people think she's obnoxious but I've always liked her. Now I admire her as well. Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:38:42 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: Bald Eagles et al.(njc) also if any of you guys are out by davis, calif., there's a real neat raptor center out there that has all the raptors found around here in northern calif. including the bald and golden eagle. nice trip in the springtime w' all the flowers in bloom. later gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: Bald Eagles et al.(njc) > Hi, gang, > > I'm behind in my digests as usual, but I just read several exchanges about > the Bald Eagle and several other birds of prey... It's not exactly like > seeing them in the wild, but if you ever make it out to San Fran Zoo, they > have a pretty good collection of birds of prey -- often displayed in the > kiddie part of the zoo -- and there's a bald eagle, rescued, I think, from > some dire situation, who lives on an island at the Zoo. They are impressive. > > Best, > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 02:24:48 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #171 - TTT, Chanting & Rosie Man, I am totally bummed about missing the BSN mini-broadcast on the Rosie interview. Anyway, about chanting -- I remember reading an interview once in which Joni said that "Coyote" is more like a chant than a song. Listened to TTT recently (after quite some time not hearing it) and I was struck by how beautiful and warm it sounds. Not "new agey," but genuinely lovely and warm. Some questionable lyrics and a jarring (though endearing) Lead Balloon aside, it really is a sonic treat. Bryan ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #173 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?