From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #161 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, April 15 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 161 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: joni on BBC/Karla Bonoff ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Bonnie Raitt (NJC) ["MusicIsSpecial" ] Re: Bonnie Raitt Chicago Theater (NJC) [Susan Guzzi ] (sjc)News(?) about Cocteau Twins.... and"flawless" CDs -- LONG [BigWaltin] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:09:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: joni on BBC/Karla Bonoff lol...okay, i guess once a hippy always a hippy...but jeff claims to be a beatnik...michael, i hope by the time you read this you are feeling much much better! it was sooo great seeing kakki & julius for the afternoon...& we had a really sweet afternoon of music...sitting on the lawn of the el encanto hotel... a piano player opened the show whose name i forget, then kenny edwards & tom kell did a set with a bass player (forget his name)...kenny is a guitar player/bass player/producer/songwriter who has played with many folks...he's the one who introduced karla to linda ronstadt (who was the first to sing karla's songs)...tom is someone i'd never heard of but turns out he is a fantastic singer/songwriter & a friend of kenny (kenny produced tom's cd)...kenny & tom took turns playing their songs & sang & played on each others songs...all of us were were really knocked out by every one of their songs... then karla came up to play...she looks & sounds so beautiful!...really it is as if no time had passed at all...she played guitar & keyboards...kenny played guitar & bass & sang harmonies with her...what an amazing catalog of songs she has & she played many of my favorites- Home, If He's Ever Near, Someone to Lay Beside Me, Isn't It Always Love, Falling Star... the concert felt not so much like a concert but like we were at someone's private garden party & julius, kakki & i ended up chatting a bit with both karla & kenny & the show's producer afterwards... i've been a HUGE fan of karla ever since she released her debut record...& i've always loved her own versions more than other people's versions of her songs even though she has had some amazing people singing her songs...bonnie raitt, linda ronstadt, nicolette larson, wynona judd... its weird but throughout the years several different people have told me that i should connect with karla somehow but i never knew how that might happen & never really tried ...but all of a sudden today we connected & it was like like talking to someone i'd just met at a friends party...so natural...how funny that after all these years it just fell so naturally into place... here's the joni content: i bought karla's cd (the best of) & in the liner notes it says: "while in the 10th grade karla began playing music with her sister lisa in a joni mitchell-influenced folk duo... here's karla's tour schedule- http://www.bryndle.com/site/tour.html np: karla bonoff - home >>Former??????? Hmmmmmmmmmmm........That threw me! LOL! Say hi to your former hippie husband as well and hope you have a great time with Kakki and Julius who called me this am when they were on their way up to Santa Barbara to see you and Karla Bonoff. What a treat!!!! Here I am at home with some kind of dreaded flu bug and you guys are over there having a wonderful time. Ok I AM jealous but wish that you all have a beautiful day together. Love Paz<< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:15:07 -0500 From: "MusicIsSpecial" Subject: Re: Bonnie Raitt (NJC) Bonnie performed it on the first night of her tour here in WI but frankly I think Mose's is much better e - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Remote" To: Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Bonnie Raitt (NJC) > I first heard this great Mose Allison song via Bonnie's version, too. > It's one of the greatest songs ever & Moses' version is nice, too. > > You know the people runnin' 'round in circles > Don't know what they're runnin' for > Everybod Cryin' "Peace On Earth" > Just as soon as we win this war... > -Mose Allison > > "Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity" > -Wavy Gravy > > RR > > RobSher50@aol.com wrote: > > > My first introduction to Bonnie Raitt came in 1975 on a compilation album I > > bought somewhere. I'd never heard of her and took a chance listen to her > > contribution, "Everybody's Cryin Mercy." I was blown away by her bluesy > > voice! The lyrics that I can remember went something like this: > > > > "It's bad, bad situation... > > That's sho' nuff getting worse.... > > Everybody's crying mercy... > > When they don't know the meaning of the word....." > > > > Does anyone remember this song? I loved it! > > > > Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Bonnie Raitt Chicago Theater (NJC) Hi Paz! Thanks for that confirmation. And now that I think of it that definitely was not a Nawlins accent! I will be checking out the website as well. His style reminded me of Dr. John, so I guess he has been dabbing his brush on the Nawlins musical pallette. Peace, Susan - --- Michael Paz wrote: > Susan > That's our Jon Cleary, but New Orleans can only claim him as a resident > because of our musical heritage. He is actually from the UK and came here to > expand his musical pallette (which he did quite well). He is a great guy and > a great player. Check out his site at http://www.joncleary.com > > Love > > Paz > > on 4/9/02 11:00 PM, Susan Guzzi at groovchacha@yahoo.com wrote: > > Anyway, if this was John Cleary - he was hot and the crowd definitely > > dug him! Sounds like it was him because I did catch that he was from New Orleans. Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:25:49 -0700 From: rsc1 Subject: RE: Leslie Smith Hi Michael - I was curious about your mention of Leslie Smith doing "Sex Kills". As she recorded it, or did you see her perform it? I haven't heard anything from her in years. I loved what little I've heard of her work. Do you know what she's up to? Thanks, Russ Cole _________________________________________________________________ >Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:29:19 -0700 >From: Michael Paz >Subject: Re: sex kills > >Just wait to hear Leslie Smith doing it! I love doing this song too. It is >so powerful and there are so many things about it that make me feel it when >I sing it. > >Peace > > >Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 02:24:30 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (sjc)News(?) about Cocteau Twins.... and"flawless" CDs -- LONG In a message dated 4/14/02 5:39:29 PM, SCJoniGuy writes: << Santa Cruz...sounds like a relaxing time! Hope you got your batteries re-charged OK.>> We did [enjoy our 4/5 days in Santa Cruz), thanks -- it's a lovely place, and we stay at a motel within walking distance of both the wharf/boardwalk and the downtown shopping district. The have a fantastic local transportation system, so you can go almost anywhere without renting a car. Unfortunately, R's sister called late last night, after we'd gotten back, and pretty much reduced R back to the trembling mess he was. God help me if I find myself in the same room with her. I've held my tongue in the past, but i can't anymore. Hell, I've even got Rev. Vince saying prayers for me. :-) <> Tanx, buddy -- I'll have a list of taopes and the appropriate check in the mail by the end of this week; ansd if i get my borsing ability back, I'll get a paypal account. Sounds great. <> Yeah, a lot of people don't get CTwins. One friend said they sounded like "fairies on crack." Lol. But I like the use of several instrumental lines, plus Elizabeth Fraser's incredible voice growling and soaring for sometimes three or four melody lines. As for lyrics, well, of course, forget it. I gave my friend Stephan (whose first language is French -- his English is excellent but heavily accented) "Heaven or Las Vegas" to use while he was painting his house, and he nearly went crazy trying to make sense of the lyrics. In CT's later work, they use more and more longer phrases of real English, but sometimes the gibberish sounds like Celtic, or Dutch/Scandianvian, or whatever. Their singer, Elizabeth F, insisted on one short CD in which she sang pretty much entirely in English. But their use of harmony and counterpoint are spectacular, and their breaking of the "rules" for melody (and their occasional use of "out-of-tune" instruments) enthrall me. Sometimes there are as many as five or more layers of melody going on at the same time. (Same with Sundays on their first two albums.) Speaking of HOLV, you might try giving another look/listen; it brought back their career, here in the US; other goodies include The Pink Opaque for a smorgasbord of their early work. Many people think Victorialand is their best work, but I like Blue Bell Knoll, the aforementioned HOLV, and the hard-to-find Moon and the Melodies (technically not a Twins CD, but it has most of the cast, and Elizabeth's vocals are among the most haunting I've ever heard). They got somewhat sluggish after HOLV -- Four Calendar Cafe got panned, with some reason (two great songs, though: Bluebeard and Pur). Their last album, Milk & Kisses, is sweet and dreamy, with some standout songs. Violaine and Treasure Hiding are spectacular for the many-voices/call-and-response passages -- I've often wondered if JM ever heard any of their stuff. Anyone know? I know she's mentioned liking Bjork, with her unorthodox key changes, etc., and I can see a similarity between CT and Bjork -- and also the Sundays: Their second album, Blind, is on my short list of "Flawless" albums, i.e., albums that have not even one clunker. Has this question ever been thrown out on the list -- Flawless albums? Some examples for me: *Everything But The Girl's first album *Marti Jones' album that had the song "Crusher" (forgot the name of the album again, and who was that, who offered to make a cassette of it for me? -- please contact me off list) *Bonnie Raitt's Luck of the Draw, and probably several others *Sheryl Crow's Globe sessions *Of Joni: Blue, C&S, Hejira, WTRF, NRH , TI and BSN. (FTR's flaw is [imho, of course] You Turn Me On...); Hissing just barely misses cuz of Shadows and Light [sorry, Lama -- it's flawless otherwise], and DJRD just misses with Tenth World, although I know there are/wore those who think it's a perfect bridge from Otis and Marlena to Dreamland. There are so many other ablums by so many artists that are flawless, but I can't list them all of them here -- it would take all night. Getting *way* back to the original topic -- my booty from Streetlight Records: all of them were CD reprints of old C Twins 7" and 12" EPs. They seemed to have been done in '91', and remixed in the bargain, but leave it to me to only find out only now. Here's what I got (and I'm happy to record and give it to other jmdlers just for postage): *The Spangle Maker (orig '84 , has title song, two versions of Pearly Dewdrops Drops and Pepper Tree) *Lullabies ('82', has Feathers-Oars-Blades) *Aikea-Guinea ('84, has title song, Kookaburra, Quisquose, and Rococo) *Iceblink Luck ('90, has title song, Mizaker the mizan, and Watchfar) *Tiny Dynamine/Echos in a shallow Bay ('85, may have originally been two smaller EPs. this one is the best of the lot, eight songs, all good) *Sunburst and Snowblind ('83, has Suggar Hiccup [from Head over Heals], From the Flagstones, Hitherto and Because of Whirl-Jack) *Peppermint Pig ('83, has two versions of the title track, also Lifeline and Hazel) Also recommended: The BBC Sessions. A wonderful 2-disk find, with lots of early stuff not heard anywhere else, including ***Strange Fruit*** -- perhaps the oddest version of Lady Days amazing song I've ever heard, but haunting nevertheless. Enough already -- sorry I got so carried away. Bob, I'll have the check and the list in the mail tomorrow. And everyone else, especially you Cocteau Twins fans out there, please feel free to contact either on- or off-list., if you want me to make some kind of tape. Best to everyone! Walt The Spangle Maker ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #161 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?