From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #135 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 26 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 135 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Great guitarists with a vulva NJC [FredNow@aol.com] Re: AI NJC [colin ] Oscars NJC [] Happy Birthday NJC - catch up [LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk] N.Tertaining [Gordon Mackie ] Re: my so called life njc [Jerry Notaro ] Nexus Nixon, NJC ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: Happy Oscar Day (some Joni but mostly NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Roberta Flack - njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: my so called life njc [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: Happy Oscar Day (NJC) [CoyoteRick@aol.com] Re: JONI: CBC-TV and PBS/American Masters (NJC) [Ken ] Re: Roberta Flack - njc ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: Jaco... the early years. [JRMCo1@aol.com] RE: Roberta Flack - njc [Carolyn Carmack ] Re: Colin,Mack,Walt NJCl ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: my so called life njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Diana Krall in Chicago - long but with joni mentions ["Bree Mcdonough] Re: N.Tertaining ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: JONI: CBC-TV [Ken ] Oscars (NJC) [Lindsay Moon ] (njc)Badlands -- what film was *I* thinking of? [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Liza's 3 Octaves vs. Joni & Sheryl Crow [Lindsay Moon ] (njc) Smart This&That [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Badlands(njc) ["Rosalie Kerr" ] Re: Happy Oscar Day (some Joni but mostly NJC) ["gene mock" ] Re: AI NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Happy Birthday!! (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: I'm Cindy and I'm New! [Catherine McKay ] Re: AI NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: I'm Cindy and I'm New! ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: AI NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Happy Birthday!! (NJC) [Michael Paz I just picked up the Michael Hedges CD " Beyond Boundaries". For those >of you not familiar with his music, I highly suggest this one. Yes, but he has no vulva. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:45:30 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: AI NJC > As you say, wonderful acting by Haley Joel Osment. I find it a amzing that child can act like this. 6th Sense, Pass It forward or Pay it back whateevr it was called, and this one. Where does a child get this from? Must be inborn. > The > Jude Law character/android was vaguely interesting, > but I didn't get the point of it either, esp. the end. > All I can say is, if you see it as a fairy tale > (Pinocchio, Hansel & Gretel, that kind of thing, lost > babes in the wood), then it kind of works. (but not > really.) no not really, i agree. It was a robot. that was it. > I think when the mix of Kubrick/Spielberg/ > weird/cute just doesn't work. I also find myself > asking myself "when is it going to be over?" is a sure > indicator that the film has lost me (and is too long.) I wasn't that bored by it just didn't get it. The only tiem I felt anything was when they were making a side show of the destroying of the robots. Fairly typical human behaviour. > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:59:49 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Oscars NJC Am I the only one glad that Randy Newman won the Best Song category in today's Oscars? His win (after 16 nominations) was given a standing ovation. Unlike what one friend told me that he was given the award because of his nth time nomination, I think his songs are just unassuming and not really the bravura ones that get noticed every year (remember Aimee Mann's "Save Me" from MAGNOLIA). Joseph wanted Tom Wilkinson, Sissy Spacek and Helen Mirren to win . . . but I am not the Academy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:44:28 -0000 From: LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk Subject: Happy Birthday NJC - catch up Hi Sue Hope you had a great birthday! Looking forward to seeing you again this year at the fest! lots of love Les (London) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:00:38 +0000 From: Gordon Mackie Subject: N.Tertaining Bree Maybe the N stands for No-crap. In fact No Crap Knox has a ring to it Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:23:47 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: my so called life njc Rick and Susan wrote: > Coming out of lurkdom to say that My So-Called Life is one of my all time > favourite TV shows. A non- netiquette me, too. When MTV had the My So Called Life marathons running I'd bolt the doors and take the phone off the hook. My fave is the Christmas Angel Episode with Julianna Hatfield which involved teen aged runaways. They played Joni music all the time during the episodes. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:07:07 -0000 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Nexus Nixon, NJC From: "Sharon L. Buffington" > Subject: nexus Nixon NJC > > I had a laughing fit over this article from the Washington Post > concerning the Nixon tapes especially the nexus between drugs, > homosexuality, communism and, of course, Jews. > Hi Sharon, I look at it this way: Jews invented Christianity, yet Christians have killed Jews for 2000 years. Jews invented Communism yet Communists persecuted Jews. I'm surprised no one is blaming us yet for the A-bomb, after all without Einstein it couldn't have been made. This reminds me of an old joke: 5000 years ago came the 1st Jew, Abraham, who said the key is what you believe (i.e in the head) Then 3000 years later came another Jew, Jesus, who said the key is to love (i.e in the heart). Then 1800 years later things started moving faster: First came Freud, who said the key is below the belt. Then came Marx, who said the key is in your work (i.e the hands, sorry for the simplification) Then came Einstein who said it's all relative. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:31:49 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Oscar Day (some Joni but mostly NJC) <> Totally agree. Classy in every way, and that theater is gorgeous! I didn't go a very good job of predicting the winners, but I'm glad for all who did take home the prize. I just saw Monster's Ball last week, and Halle is powerhouse, besides being the sexiest woman on the planet. Denzel's award was deserving, I thought Oscar would find his role too negative, but I'm glad they didn't. Sydney Poitier...how eloquent. My only response was to cry. And I thought the Woody Allen piece was also very touching; put his fetish aside and focus on his body of work and it's pretty impressive. And yay for Randy...the Susan Lucci of Oscar songs finally gets his due, even though none of the songs last night were very noteworthy. Bob NP: RLJ, "Jolie Jolie" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:16:32 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Roberta Flack - njc Mark or Travis wrote: > > Saw Joan Baez last night and she did a gorgeous Jesse. Still one of my > favorite > > songs. > > > > Jerry > > > > Roberta Flack also did a beautiful, slow, aching version of this song on her > 'Killing Me Softly' lp. And speaking of Roberta Flack, what ever became of > her? I saw her last Christmas with the Colors of Christmas show. She was just awful. She never grew or challenged herself artistically and became sloppy and stale. The surprise performer of that concert for me was Marilyn McCoo. She looked and sounded fabulous. Jerry, just thrilled for Halle Berry. Her performance in Monster's Ball raised the bar for ALL actors. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 06:45:40 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: my so called life njc > My fave is the Christmas Angel > Episode with Julianna Hatfield which involved teen aged runaways. They played Joni > music all the time during the episodes. I LOVED that episode. And I remember enjoying the one where the parents rent Halloween costumes (a pirate and a sort of (pardon the expression) wench. When they go to return the costumes, that have to explain sheepishly that the bodice of the dress is ripped. The woman at the rental place says it always gets returned in disrepair. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:00:47 EST From: CoyoteRick@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Oscar Day (NJC) In a message dated 3/24/02 11:20:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: > > Just got it from a little Oscar soiree here in >LA hosted by a new pal of > mine that's up for >a big, big award. > > Oh do tell! After I read this again, I realized this sounded so weird, like I was hanging out with Ron Howard or something...No, my friend (and new neighbor) was up for the costume design award (big, because it was televised and literally skyrockets a costume designers career), but he didn't take home the gold. But, he did get to go to the Vanity Fair party and I am dying to know if JM showed up again! He promised to be on the lookout. Kakki, the Halle moment was one of the best I have seen on this show in years. I am partial to her because last December we sat at the same table at a charity dinner. This lady is as sweet, smart, and gracious as she appears on the interview shows. This charity is the one she hooked up with during her community service for the car accident. She produced and directed a film (which made its debut that evening) honoring the work of this charity -- which focuses on domestic violence in south central Los Angeles. Beyond the film, she spends many hours every week helping these amazing people, at the center. She is NOT one to simply write a check and call that charity work. She was so proud of her work on the film -- which was excellent -- she totally stole my heart as well as Brad's. I am beyond happy for her big win last night, setting aside the doors it opens for African Americans. By the way, did anyone notice Sir Ian's handsome date -- at one point they showed his boyfriend with his hand placed lovingly on Ian's knee. Way to go, Ian! No regrets, Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California "Only fools are afraid to be burned by fire..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:42:27 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: JONI: CBC-TV and PBS/American Masters (NJC) From Sundays Montreal Gazette - TV and Radio section: By Peggy Curran THE SAD SIDE OF BEING JONI MITCHELL On the weekend when a generation gathered on a New York farm for three days of peace, love and rock music, a disappointed young singer named Joni mitchell was stranded in a Manhattan hotel. The willowy blonde from Saskatoon was scheduled to make her first television appearance on the Dick Cavett Show (remember him?) that Monday.Her musical mentors-chief among them, a couple of guys named David Crosby and Graham Nash-feared she'd never make it out of the traffic and back to the city for her break-through gig. "The daddies wouldn't let me go," she recalls, with a wry nod to the obedient girl she once was. So Mitchell stayed behind, watched the news reports on television, and wrote Woodstock, the song that became an anthem for the music festival and the era's hippie ethic. Joni Mitchell, Both Sides Now and Then, which airs in two parts on CBC's Life & Times beginning this Tuesday, is a revealing portrait of the artist who became one of the most accomplished singer/songwriters and musical stylists of her time. Unlike so many TV biographies with the subject's seal-of-approval, the two-hour film does not gloss over the dark patches in Mitchell's life. Instead, it explores the impact of lonely Prairie winters and childhood illness, an unplanned pregnancy and a disastrous early marriage on Mitchell's evolution as a writer, vocalist and musician. Produced and directed by Stephanie Bennett for Delilah Films, the documentary unveils a woman shaped by her times: the polio scare of the 1950's, the social strictures of the 1960s and the feminist consciousness-raising of the 1970s. Candid conversation with Mitchell is backed up by interviews with many of the people who helped shape her still-soaring career - Crosby, Nash, Tom Rush and Judy Collins, music-industry executive David Geffen and Cameron Crowe, the rock-music critic turned film director. Archival footage traces Mitchell's musical roots from Edith Piaf and juke-box jive to the coffee houses of Toronto, Detroit and Greenwich Village, where she fist began to get noticed, to recognition - - as recent as this month's Grammy Awards - for her haunting lyrics and innovative musical techniques. Performances of several of her biggest hits, including Both Sides Now, The Circle Game, Chelsea Morning and Big Yellow Taxi complement Mitchell's reflections on her life and the difficult choices she made, including her reluctant and regretted decision to give up her only daughter for adoption. Joni Mitchell, Both Sides Now and Then airs in two parts, Tuesday, March 26 and April 2 on Life & Times (CBMT-6 at 7). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:27:32 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Diana Krall in Chicago - long but with joni mentions This past Saturday night, I was lucky enough to see Diana Krall at the Chicago Theater. What a great place this is to see a concert - a vintage theater, that's been beautifully restored, and with just about the best accoustic in town. Diane put on a wonderful show, playing for about an hour and a half. This is the first time I've ever seen her live, and I enjoyed her much more live than on recording. While her records are beautifully done, they don't seem to take too many chances, and in my opinion, nothing on them come close to capturing the emotion she displayed performing A Case Of You at the Joni Tribute. After reading how she was still performing ACOY in concert, I decided I absolutely had to go see her, if for no other reason, then to see her do this one song. All night long, I sat back and waited for that one particular song, but I must admit, I was pretty damn entertained the whole time. She stuck pretty much to her usual formula of old standards, but her and her band were more relaxed then they are on record, and they opened up the songs incredibly in the process. But song after song went by, and still no ACOY. When she left the stage before her first encore, I started to worry that she wasn't going to do it at all! Upon returning, the rather refined crowd started throwing out suggestions, at which time, I couldn't stand it any longer and called out for ACOY. She then said she was going to play something for the gentleman in the first row, who she felt she some how insulted earlier in the evening, and so to try and make things up to him, she played S'wonderful. She then left the stage again, and so did about a quarter of the audience! I couldn't believe it - it couldn't be over already, but people were giving up and leaving. Fortunately, there was a resurgence in the applause, and out she came again - this time alone. Again I called out for ACOY, amidst all of the other cat calls from the audience. Peel Me A Grape was probably the most called for - one guy in the audience even yelled out "Peel Me A Grape, Baby!", at which time Diana just starred into the audience in total disbelief and questioned "Baby? Peel me a grape, BABY?!?" It was pretty hysterical. She then started talking about a very dear friend of hers, who was supposed to have been that night, but had to cancel because he was sick. She then explained that she was doing a Breast Cancer benefit in NY with this person in a couple of weeks, and proceeded to play The Border Song by Sir Elton John. It was a great version of a great song. Elton is one of my all time favorites, so this was a very special treat for me. But about half way through, I began to accept that this was the last song she was going to do, so I would not be hearing ACOY. Still, The Border Song was incredible, and sure enough, after she finished it, she thanked everyone, walked off of the stage, and on came the house lights. I sat there a little shell shocked, disappointed that she didn't play ACOY. I decided that I would have to be satisfied with hearing The Border Song (and believe me, that was very satisfying!), and rose to my feet to leave. And then a very nice thing happened. They started piping music into the theater, and lo and behold, it was Joni's orchestrated version of Both Sides Now. I sat back down in my seat, with a big old smile on my face, and listened as BSN filled the theater. As the song ended, I got up and proceeded to leave, completely content with the evening, even though Diana never played the one song I came there to hear. On my way out of the theater, I decided to see what sort of goodies they were selling. On display were a couple of T shirts, Diana's complete catalog on CD, two different posters, and a new DVD of her live in Paris. As I was reaching to check out the DVD, a woman came rushing up, almost frantic, and asked which of Diana's CDs had that song they played while we were leaving the theater. I perked up, and told her that was a Joni Mitchell song, Both Sides Now. She then looked at me rather incredulously, and said she knew it was a Joni Mitchell song, but she wanted to get a copy of Diana's version that they justed played on the PA. I then politely explained to her that it wasn't Diana, but Joni. I then told her about the BSN CD, but she still didn't seem convinced. Finally, another gentleman in the crowd assured her that I was correct, at which point she got a big smile on her face, said "Well I guess I know what I'll be buying tomorrow" and disappeared into the crowd. What a perfect night cap to a very enjoyable evening. Then, as I turned to leave, I remembered about the Live in Paris DVD. I picked it up, and turned it over, and there it was - Song number 17 - A Case of You! The final song on the DVD. Needless to say, I plunked down my 30 bucks, grabbed my new DVD and headed for home. An hour and a half later, I was in my basement, lights dimmed, candles burning, a glass of wine by my side, listening to the final encore of the evening - Diana doing another stunning version of A Case Of You! When it was all over, I blew out the candles, crawled up to bed, kissed my wife good night, and fell fast asleep. A beautiful night indeed! Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:36:48 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Joni mention at the Oscars I don't know if anyone else on the list saw this, but there was a great Joni mention on one of the Oscars Pre-shows. It was on WGN in Chicago, and involve the Best Supporting Actress winner, Jennifer Connelly. She had just arrived, and the interveiwer asked how she felt. She said she was very relaxed and happy, and then told how she had just arrived via a limo, and had listened to Joni Mitchell all the way down here, and basically just reflected on what an incredible song writer she is, and that in looking at this event through that particular window, she couldn't be happier. I thought this was very cool, indeed! Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:48:32 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: six feet under NJC >>It's not the drugs, it's the kid (or as I like to say "it's not the shit, it's the fan"). When I was a kid, I didn't hold up convenience stores, or steal embalming fluid (much less smoke it), or fire a gun at anyone.<<< Fred you are right, it is the kid & also the kids upbringing or lack of & then throw some self medication on top of that & its a complex issue...but if the kid goes over the line into the world of guns it is a different matter (still it breaks my heart...most likely because gabe looks like someone i know). >>>(By the way, dig the juxtaposition with the film "Badlands.")<< That's what Claire was watching on the TV lying on the couch. Its plot kind of mirrors the later scene with her and Gabe in the Hearse (in "Badlands" they get away in a big Cadillac driving across, literally off-road, Montana).<<< How brilliant... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:52:11 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: Roberta Flack - njc My Favorite Roberta Flack record so far is "Chapter 2" her follow up to "First Take" which I have yet to purchase. I found it for a dollar at the flea market and instantly fell in love with it. her version of "Do what you got to do" (jimmy Webb) is my favorite version of this song. Nina Simone's cover is good, but Ms. Flack takes it home. I loved her style of singing, it can be soft and tender and extremely soulful and deep. I have the "Killing Me softly" record as well. That is worth on vinyl, just for the flapable piano cover. Her version of Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne" is quite an original. Okay, I have talked enough. Take care everyone. Much Love, Blair NP "Bring me Coffee or Tea" Can _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:57:00 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Jaco... the early years. In case anyone is interested, I emailed Bob Bobbing, who is producing the subject Jaco project, re: Joni's impression of Jaco's piano playing. Here's his reply: >Hello Julius, >Thanks for your interest in "Portrait of Jaco! " Stay >tuned for the availability date. >In reference to Joni Mitchells comment about Jaco's >piano playing, I visited her at her home and talked >about Jaco with for over a period of two days and >she didn't make note of Jaco's ability on the piano. >This doesn't mean that she didn't make the comment >though! Jaco was a great piano player in my >opinion especially his voicings. I do have several >cassette recordings of Jaco's that are of him just >playing piano mostly writing. Maybe someday an >edited version of these recordings could see the light >of day. >Later, >Bob Bobbing In a message dated Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:19:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, Julius Raymond writes: > Fascinating. I can't wait to have this. The notes on the website say that > the cds feature "rare" interviews...at least one with Joni. > > I recall Joni being as impressed with Jaco the pianist as with Jaco the > bassist. Who could be a better authority? Where are the piano recordings, > I wonder? > > -Julius > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Les Irvin" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 6:48 PM > Subject: Jaco... the early years. njc > > > > Soon to be available on CD: > > > > > > More info: http://www.jacotheearlyyears.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:17:01 -0500 From: Carolyn Carmack Subject: RE: Roberta Flack - njc Take me off of your subscription list please, it would be greatly appreciated! Carolyn Carmack - -----Original Message----- From: Blair Fraipont [mailto:donjuansrd80@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 1:52 PM To: mark.travis@gte.net; notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu; colin@tantra-apso.com Cc: BigWaltinSF@aol.com; bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Roberta Flack - njc My Favorite Roberta Flack record so far is "Chapter 2" her follow up to "First Take" which I have yet to purchase. I found it for a dollar at the flea market and instantly fell in love with it. her version of "Do what you got to do" (jimmy Webb) is my favorite version of this song. Nina Simone's cover is good, but Ms. Flack takes it home. I loved her style of singing, it can be soft and tender and extremely soulful and deep. I have the "Killing Me softly" record as well. That is worth on vinyl, just for the flapable piano cover. Her version of Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne" is quite an original. Okay, I have talked enough. Take care everyone. Much Love, Blair NP "Bring me Coffee or Tea" Can _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:36:02 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Colin,Mack,Walt NJCl >>>The geeks win in the end (ha ha).<<< the geeks shall inherit the earth! kate, who had her own personal geekiness to get over ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:36:03 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: my so called life njc can you rent the series?...i missed a few episodes & never saw the last one... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:48:58 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Diana Krall in Chicago - long but with joni mentions What a nice detailed report,thank you! I saw her in Cincinnati, last Sunday, a week ago and I'm heading to Louisville,Kentucky tomorrow morning for an overnight and will see her again at the the historic Louisville Palace built c.1924. > >This past Saturday night, I was lucky enough to see Diana Krall at the >Chicago Theater. >She stuck pretty much to her usual formula of old standards, but her and >her band >were more relaxed then they are on record, and they opened up the songs >incredibly in the process. Absolutely.....she's so much better live. She's quite the sense of humor too. (Dry wit) >to try and make things up to him, she played S'wonderful. She then left >the >stage again, and so did about a quarter of the audience! This wasn't the case in Cincinnati.....not a soul left before the house lights came on after the second encore. I have been to quite a few concerts in my life and never has a crowd been this riveted and so ripe for more,more,more. n >in a couple of weeks, and proceeded to play The Border Song by Sir Elton >John. It was a great version of a great song. Elton is one of my all time >favorites, I never knew the name of that song until just reading your post. I always called it "Holy Moses" I can't remember,did she say if this cancer benefit would be televised or not? >And then a very nice thing happened. They started piping music into the >theater, and lo and behold, it was Joni's orchestrated version of Both >Sides >Now. In Cincinnati it was Bonnie Raitt's hit she had a few years ago. Again,I don't know the title. A very melodic song with lyrics..turn down the bed,turn down the lights..... >Then, as I turned to leave, I remembered about the Live in Paris DVD. I >picked it up, and turned it over, and there it was - Song number 17 - A >Case >of You! The final song on the DVD. I'm so glad I have this. I've enjoyed watching it now two or three times with family and friends. ACOY...what a treat! I'll let you know if she does ACOY in Louisville. Bree > >A beautiful night indeed! > >Jack _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:02:04 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: N.Tertaining Could be? This is one name I never thought of. WIll NOCrap KNOX please step forward. Bree >Maybe the N stands for No-crap. In fact No Crap Knox has a ring to it > >Gordon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:06:41 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: JONI: CBC-TV Sorry for those of you who get this twice I really shouldn't have had this labeled NJC From Sundays Montreal Gazette - TV and Radio section: By Peggy Curran THE SAD SIDE OF BEING JONI MITCHELL On the weekend when a generation gathered on a New York farm for three days of peace, love and rock music, a disappointed young singer named Joni mitchell was stranded in a Manhattan hotel. The willowy blonde from Saskatoon was scheduled to make her first television appearance on the Dick Cavett Show (remember him?) that Monday.Her musical mentors-chief among them, a couple of guys named David Crosby and Graham Nash-feared she'd never make it out of the traffic and back to the city for her break-through gig. "The daddies wouldn't let me go," she recalls, with a wry nod to the obedient girl she once was. So Mitchell stayed behind, watched the news reports on television, and wrote Woodstock, the song that became an anthem for the music festival and the era's hippie ethic. Joni Mitchell, Both Sides Now and Then, which airs in two parts on CBC's Life & Times beginning this Tuesday, is a revealing portrait of the artist who became one of the most accomplished singer/songwriters and musical stylists of her time. Unlike so many TV biographies with the subject's seal-of-approval, the two-hour film does not gloss over the dark patches in Mitchell's life. Instead, it explores the impact of lonely Prairie winters and childhood illness, an unplanned pregnancy and a disastrous early marriage on Mitchell's evolution as a writer, vocalist and musician. Produced and directed by Stephanie Bennett for Delilah Films, the documentary unveils a woman shaped by her times: the polio scare of the 1950's, the social strictures of the 1960s and the feminist consciousness-raising of the 1970s. Candid conversation with Mitchell is backed up by interviews with many of the people who helped shape her still-soaring career - Crosby, Nash, Tom Rush and Judy Collins, music-industry executive David Geffen and Cameron Crowe, the rock-music critic turned film director. Archival footage traces Mitchell's musical roots from Edith Piaf and juke-box jive to the coffee houses of Toronto, Detroit and Greenwich Village, where she fist began to get noticed, to recognition - - as recent as this month's Grammy Awards - for her haunting lyrics and innovative musical techniques. Performances of several of her biggest hits, including Both Sides Now, The Circle Game, Chelsea Morning and Big Yellow Taxi complement Mitchell's reflections on her life and the difficult choices she made, including her reluctant and regretted decision to give up her only daughter for adoption. Joni Mitchell, Both Sides Now and Then airs in two parts, Tuesday, March 26 and April 2 on Life & Times (CBMT-6 at 7). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:56:01 -0800 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Oscars (NJC) My view on the Oscars, briefly. Thought it went on too long with too many looooong tributes, not that they weren't deserved, just took too long to lead up to introducing the honoree, and then for the honoree to make his speech (hey, how come no women?) Best dressed: Ali MacGraw. Not a good actress, but dresses beautifully. Worst dress: Gwyneth Paltrow. Whoever she has "dressing" her should be run out of town. Most unflattering thing I've ever seen. (Way too strong eye make-up on her too). Worst hair: Cameron Diaz. Come on, honey, you went to all the trouble with the dress; do something with the hair! I don't recall any hair-do's that I thought were really great. Jennifer Lopez should have taken a second look. Not good. Maybe the tides will turn next year and we'll be back into beauty rather than just-got-up looks. Halle Berry looked beautiful in the cinnamon color. I liked the Oscar choices, but I did terribly on the ballot I did at the Oscar party I went to. Completely off except for about two categories. Great for Randy Newman. Thought the Ben Stiller/Owen Wilson bit was amusing. That's it. Under 4 minutes, I think. Cheers, Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:18:29 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc)Badlands -- what film was *I* thinking of? Exchange between Kate and Fred: <<<<"Badlands.")<< > >hmmm...didn't see that film... Check it out sometime; a great film from 1973 by Terrence Malick, with young Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek.>>>> Funny, when Fred mentioned "Badlands", I was thinking of a movie with Richard Gere, a young woman and a younger sister in it; they were being pursued by police for some justifiable crime... Anybody know which film I'm talking about? Visually very interesting, very dreamlike, with very little dialog per se -- it was narrated by the little sister character... Ah! Found it -- it was called "Days of Heaven". Brooke Adams, lsted in the credits, must have played Gere's love interest (she posed as his sister during their getaway), and someone called Linda Manz played the little sister (Gere's, according to the Videohound I have) with the husky voice. Funny, I'm sure I also saw Badlands when it came out, but I can't remember it now. Anyway, sorry for this movieland detour... Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:39:54 -0800 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Liza's 3 Octaves vs. Joni & Sheryl Crow Fred wrote: This brings back memories! I went to college with 5 albums, three of which I think were Joni, and my framed silk-screen of Joni's innner Court & Spark sleeve which I made in high school graphics class (still right by my side ... I might ask to be buried with it). The roommate I had loved Liza and I loved Joni. Ugh, what a battle to get at that stereo! I tried to be patient about the Liza, but she was like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. That and Barbra Streisand. To this day I think I've purged those songs from memory (well, there might have been some alcohol responsible for some of the brain cell loss ...) On another musical note, I heard Sheryl Crow sing a great song on the radio. I felt like I'd heard it before, great tune, a ballad, with the chorus, "and this is ho-o-o-me..." Another line about something 'tearing me apart.' Maybe some of you know it. The thing that caught me though was one of her guitar strings sounded out of tune and that's all I could focus on. Ugh! I kept grunting! Tune the guitar! How could you record that out-of-tune string! Anyone else hear it? To me, Sheryl's voice often sounds flat. Is it me? Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:39:48 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc) Smart This&That Hi, all, Does anyone (other than certain journalists, who are paid to) every actually listen to the whole of the presidential radio address? Apparently the theme of this past Saturday's was "Smart Borders", i.e., ways to keep terrorists from slipping through our borders. Good luck But it brought back thoughts of the "Smart Bombs" that first made their appearance during Dubbya's dad's administration, during the Gulf War. I'd like to see the appearance now of "Smart Corporations" that actually have to (a) make a profit, or (b) admit it, not hide it, when they don't, and make everyone who invests in it pay for it, not just the workin' folk. And I know it's unrealistic, given the process we have now of winnowing out the good candidates *before* the actual election, but what about the concept of "Smart President"? Just a thought, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:04:00 -0600 From: "Rosalie Kerr" Subject: Badlands(njc) The movie Badlands is roughly taken from the true story of Carol Ann Fugate and Carles Starkweather. These 2 young lovers went on a murder spree in the 50s in Nebraska. This was before my time but my mother tells me it was quite scary until they were caught. Badlands is a great movie and I highly reccomend it. Rosalie _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:11:13 -0800 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: Happy Oscar Day (some Joni but mostly NJC) hello kakki, i thought this was one of the best oscar nights i've seen. sidney poitier is one helleva class act. later gene ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:19:12 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: nyt cassandra wilson article mentions joni In an online New York Times article about Cassandra Wilson by Adam Schatz, there is this mention of Joni: << She was laying claim to Joni Mitchell territory, a gutsy move for a jazz singer who was already in her late 30's. Hailed as breakthroughs, the records sold hundreds of thousands of copies. >> I have read the article twice and still don't understand exactly what the writer means by "Joni Mitchell territory." You can read the article at: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nyt/20020324/en_nyt/cassandra_w ilson__a_jazz_diva_who_s_losing_interest_in_jazz --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:40:56 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Great guitarists with a vulva NJC Actually he did Fred, but he wore it on his sleeve. Paz on 3/25/02 12:31 AM, FredNow@aol.com at FredNow@aol.com wrote: > chiaroscuro@SNET.Net writes: > >> I just picked up the Michael Hedges CD " Beyond Boundaries". For those >> of you not familiar with his music, I highly suggest this one. > > Yes, but he has no vulva. > > -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:56:01 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Happy Birthday!! (NJC) Since I am still on digest for the time being, I don't know if the birthday fairy arrived today to wish Kelly's dad, Rob (aka Evian) the very happiest of birthdays today!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Papa, and many, many more!!! :-D Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:01:12 -0500 From: "Cindy Breslau" Subject: I'm Cindy and I'm New! Hi to all of you who have been posting over the last two weeks. I am writing now because I am new and feel somewhat lost in the variety of comments and subjects being addressed.If its possible could it be explained what about Joni is a popular topic(s) or are the regulars who post all friends and communicate on that level as well?I will tell you that I was 13 years old when Songs to a Seagull came out.I flipped for the mood of the music and lyrics. But even more inportant I feel that Joni joined me at the beginning of my adolecence and together we took some twists and turns in life. Like a big sister she has always interpreted aspects of life I may not quite have reached yet but needed all the same. My admiration of Joni and respect for the person she so steadfastly evolved into runs very deep in me. Along with Joel Bernstein who (as described in the latest biography) laid in his bed late on Sunday Night listening to Philadelphia radio DJ Gene Shay often interview Joni in the midsixties it was a very magical time. Joel at his tender age was fortunate enough become an important part of Joni's life.I could only dream of it and attend concerts over a 30 year period of time to keep infused with joni's extraordinary talents and views on life. I thank you for bearing with me here. I'm sure everyone knows what it feels like to get lost in Joni!Any info about how I may be able to contribute to the dialouge would be appreciated. Thanks and again Hello. cindybreslau@hotmail.comGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:17:13 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: AI NJC Colin and Catherine- I watched this movie last week with the kids and almost immediately I wished I hadn't let Julian watch it. He really freaked when the mommy left the boy out in the woods. He wanted to turn it off after that. In a bizarre twist, Freda was out with the girls and was not there with us and Julian kept asking for her. Mikey has no problem with movies, but Julian is more sensitive. I found the movie to be too much Kubrick and not enough Speilberg (if you know what I mean). I found the whole thing pretty disturbing. Even though that child is a brilliant actor and I liked the special effects, I really felt the movie lacked an overall purpose. I kept thinking about Data from Star Trek too. On an up note, I saw Hearts with Sir Anthony Hopkins a few weeks ago and loved it. I recommend it highly. Paz NP-Don't Wanna Know Why-Whiskeytown (Pneumonia Demos) on 3/24/02 6:34 AM, Catherine McKay at anima_rising@yahoo.ca wrote: > --- colin wrote: >> We just this film. It was well made and filmed etc >> but what was it >> about? Was there a point? >> Didn't get emotionally invloved at all. They were >> robots, including the >> boy, well acted as always by Haley. But so what? If >> there was deeper >> meaning to this film, it passed us by. >> Anyone have an idea what it was about? > > LOL, Colin. It had pretty much the same effect on me. > As you say, wonderful acting by Haley Joel Osment. The > Jude Law character/android was vaguely interesting, > but I didn't get the point of it either, esp. the end. > All I can say is, if you see it as a fairy tale > (Pinocchio, Hansel & Gretel, that kind of thing, lost > babes in the wood), then it kind of works. (but not > really.) I think when the mix of Kubrick/Spielberg/ > weird/cute just doesn't work. I also find myself > asking myself "when is it going to be over?" is a sure > indicator that the film has lost me (and is too long.) > > ______________________________________________________________________ > File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:24:49 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!! (NJC) Evian, you old fart! I didn't know it was your birthday, and I'm the DBF! Well Happy "disco" birthday! I hope all the stars from the "Love Boat" are attending your birthday! If you don't make it to Jonifest, I'll make sure that Loren Tewes has your next baby :~D I miss you big daddy! Happy Happy birthday Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:31:57 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: I'm Cindy and I'm New! - --- Cindy Breslau wrote: > Hi to all of you who have been posting over the last > two weeks. I am writing > now because I am new and feel somewhat lost in the > variety of comments and > subjects being addressed.If its possible could it be > explained what about Joni > is a popular topic(s) or are the regulars who post > all friends and communicate > on that level as well? Welcome, Cindy. There are many popular topics, both Joni and non - they come and go, marked by lovers and styles of clothes. Many of the people at this party have met, some on a regular basis (you will soon learn about Joni-fests big and small). It's a friendly bunch of people, but they talk too much - they talk too open and free. It can drive you crazy sometimes, but, if you've got too many doubts,and there's no good reception for ya, you can just tune it out. (That was pretty pathetic, but it's JC (Joni content.) ______________________________________________________________________ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:39:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: AI NJC - --- Michael Paz wrote: > > > Colin and Catherine- > I watched this movie last week with the kids and > almost immediately I > wished I hadn't let Julian watch it. He really > freaked when the mommy left > the boy out in the woods. I gather he's a pretty young kid. I'm surprised my own son didn't flip out at that but I think he has become hardened in the last year or so and only occasionally has that kind of fear anymore. I don't know whether to be happy or sad about that. >I found the whole thing > pretty disturbing. Even > though that child is a brilliant actor and I liked > the special effects, I > really felt the movie lacked an overall purpose. I > kept thinking about Data > from Star Trek too. I know what you mean - the kid was kind of like Data Jr. I got this feeling that they had come up with this pretty good idea for a story, but didn't know how to end it, so they came up with this alien thing after a thousand years pass by with the kid just staring at this mother figure/blue fairy (what about rust and so on? yeesh!) (Who was "telling" the story? I gather it was one of the aliens - but why? and for whom? ______________________________________________________________________ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:22:39 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: I'm Cindy and I'm New! Hi Cindy....and welcome!! >I will tell you that I was 13 years old when Songs to a >Seagull came out.I flipped for the mood of the music and lyrics. If you had to pick a favorite from STAS which song would you pick and why? It would be a difficult choice for me... either I Had a King or Michael From Mountains? BUT...IF I had to choose, it would be because of lyrics like these....Michael leads you up the stairs,He needs you to care,And you know you do,cats come crying to the key,And dry you will be,in a tow'l or two. It's funny, I have Joni's complete catalog on CD, except STAS. I still have the vinyl,but have not yet purchased the CD. >My admiration of Joni and respect for the person she so >steadfastly evolved into runs very deep in me. Yes!! I always say when God created her he really went all out!! >I thank you for bearing with me here. I'm sure everyone knows what it feels >like to get lost in Joni! Happens to me a lot. Especially while listening to Hejira. Have you seen her in concert? If so,what was that like? Looking forward to hearing from you, Bree >Thanks and again Hello. >cindybreslau@hotmail.comGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download >: >http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:34:09 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: AI NJC I still, after reading these posts have not learned what the heck the premise is. I guess I've learned one thing:Not to waste my time or money on it. Bree >I watched this movie last week with the kids and > > almost immediately I > > wished I hadn't let Julian watch it. He really > > freaked when the mommy left > > the boy out in the woods. > > really felt the movie lacked an overall purpose. I > > kept thinking about Data > > from Star Trek too. >so they came up with this alien thing after a >thousand years pass by with the kid just staring at >this mother figure/blue fairy (what about rust and so >on? yeesh!) (Who was "telling" the story? I gather it >was one of the aliens - but why? and for whom? > > > >______________________________________________________________________ >File your taxes online! http://taxes.ya _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:11:47 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!! (NJC) Happy fecking Birthday fellow Aries' Sue and Evian. Love Paz on 3/25/02 7:24 PM, FMYFL@aol.com at FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Evian, you old fart! > I didn't know it was your birthday, and I'm the DBF! > Well Happy "disco" birthday! > I hope all the stars from the "Love Boat" are attending your birthday! > If you don't make it to Jonifest, I'll make sure that Loren Tewes has your > next baby :~D > > I miss you big daddy! > Happy Happy birthday > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:19:05 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc)Badlands -- what film was *I* thinking of? The reason for your confusion is that Terrence Malick directed and wrote both films, two of my favorites. Also, "Days of Heaven" makes great use of "The Aquarium" from Camille Saint-Saens' "Carnival of the Animals." - -Fred In a message dated 3/25/02 7:18:29 PM, BigWaltinSF writes: >Exchange between Kate and Fred: > ><<<<"Badlands.")<< >> >>hmmm...didn't see that film... > >Check it out sometime; a great film from 1973 by Terrence Malick, with >young >Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek.>>>> > >Funny, when Fred mentioned "Badlands", I was thinking of a movie with Richard >Gere, a young woman and a younger sister in it; they were being pursued >by police for some justifiable crime... Anybody know which film I'm talking >about? Visually very interesting, very dreamlike, with very little dialog >per se -- it was narrated by the little sister character... > >Ah! Found it -- it was called "Days of Heaven". Brooke Adams, lsted in >the credits, must have played Gere's love interest (she posed as his sister >during their getaway), and someone called Linda Manz played the little >sister (Gere's, according to the Videohound I have) with the husky voice. > >Funny, I'm sure I also saw Badlands when it came out, but I can't remember >it now. Anyway, sorry for this movieland detour... > >Walt ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #135 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?