From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #134 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, March 25 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 134 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: (njc) was Janis Ian , now Eddie Haskel [Murphycopy@aol.com] Today in History: March 24 [les@jmdl.com] AI NJC [colin ] Re: liza njc [FredNow@aol.com] Re: six feet under NJC [FredNow@aol.com] Re: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Colin,Mack,Walt NJCl ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) ["Robert Holliston" ] Re: (njc) Janis Ian -- guitar player, incredible lyricist and (!!!) a columnist? ["Bree Mcdonough" ] NJC Re: Women in Jazz (Abbey Lincoln) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Colin,Mack,Walt NJCl [colin ] Re: AI NJC [Catherine McKay ] Ent. Weekly Letter to Editor [Lindsay Moon ] Re: my so called life njc [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: (njc) Janis Ian [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Colin,Mack,Walt NJCl ["Mark or Travis" ] Subject: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) ["Kate Bennett" ] Roberta Flack - njc ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Ent. Weekly Letter to Editor [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Ent. Weekly Letter to Editor ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: my so called life njc ["Suze Cameron" ] Re: my so called life njc [Rick and Susan ] Re: my so called life njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] McCartney ticket njc [Randy Remote ] RE: Subject: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Great guitarists with a vulva NJC [chiaroscuro@SNET.Net] Re: top 100 guitar players (njc) [chiaroscuro@snet.net] (njc)Women of Rockabilly -- I'm a-tapin' it [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] "Stropping Sheilas" and other interesting stuff on San Francisco PBS...(some jc) [BigWaltinS] (njc) Aborigines in South America!!??!! [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) [chiaroscuro@SNET.Net] Re: (njc) Janis Ian -- guitar player, incredible lyricist and (!!!) a columnist? [chiaroscur] Jaco... the early years. njc [Les Irvin ] RE: (njc) Janis Ian -- guitar player, incredible lyricist and (!!!) a columnist? ["Kate Bennett" ] my so-called life njc ["mack watson-bush" ] my so-called life njc ["mack watson-bush" ] my so-called life njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Happy Oscar Day (some Joni but mostly NJC) ["Kakki" > Please, people. No Eddie Haskel bashing. He was my mentor. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:57:09 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: March 24 On March 24 in Joni Mitchell History: 1974: Joni performs at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina. 1983: Joni performs at London's Wembley Arena which was taped for a broadcast on radio and also filmed for a 60 minute BBC concert special. More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Wembley83.html - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database at http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:36:37 +0000 From: colin Subject: AI NJC We just this film. It was well made and filmed etc but what was it about? Was there a point? Didn't get emotionally invloved at all. They were robots, including the boy, well acted as always by Haley. But so what? If there was deeper meaning to this film, it passed us by. Anyone have an idea what it was about? - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 05:05:23 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: liza njc "mack watson-bush" writes: >just the opposite for me. can't get enough liza but jazz, nope. > > >mack Liza is one performer, jazz is an entire genre encompassing thousands of musicians and spanning nearly a hundred years. Kind of sweeping, don't you think? What about Keith Jarrett playing solo piano "Over the Rainbow"? For that matter, what about all of Joni's jazz-inflected music? - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 05:19:23 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: six feet under NJC "Kate Bennett" writes: >my heart is breaking for >gabe who keeps making his life worse but who is lots of kids who make bad >choices under the influence It's not the drugs, it's the kid (or as I like to say "it's not the shit, it's the fan"). When I was a kid, I didn't hold up convenience stores, or steal embalming fluid (much less smoke it), or fire a gun at anyone. >>>(By the way, dig the juxtaposition with the film "Badlands.")<< > >hmmm...didn't see that film... Check it out sometime; a great film from 1973 by Terrence Malick, with young Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek. That's what Claire was watching on the TV lying on the couch. Its plot kind of mirrors the later scene with her and Gabe in the Hearse (in "Badlands" they get away in a big Cadillac driving across, literally off-road, Montana). >& don't you love watching Ruth, their mom, going through >her self discovery Yeah, she's a hoot. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 05:52:16 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) In a message dated 3/23/02 10:57:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, AsharaJM@aol.com writes: > The very happiest of birthdays to Sue Cameron!! Hope your day was > WONDERFUL!!! :-) > Suzy Q baby I love you, Suzy Q Happy Fecking Birthday Sue! Where the hell have you been? What's this I hear, not going to Jonifest, WHHAATT? Hope to talk to you soon Love Rose ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:36:27 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Colin,Mack,Walt NJCl I just got home a bit ago and am a tad,weel I'm feeling no pain. I've read all three of your posts. ANd geez they are touching. Colin.....your humanity and love for the underdog...children and animals always comes across in your posts. I'm so sorry for the crap you had to deal with. After reading uyour post I realize i did not have it so bad after all. But I do understand the fear of large gatherings. This is difficult for me too. It is amazing what just one kind word or thogut can do for someone.(to put yourself in the other persons place) Mack.....I have told a few times,you are just so special. I mean this with all my heart. It will be one hell of a lucky guy that gets you. Your soul mate is out there,sweet. You summed up high school reunions so well. I love your philosophy. Walt,thanks for posting those lyrics about someone with aids that Janis wrote. Very touching....I could have cried I have not always been so sympathetic. maybe this is why I came to this list. To understand better. As I've told you before you handle it so well. You have a lot of shit to deal with you do it well my man. Thanks for the offer of the beer. If I come to the fest,I will surely take you up on the ooffer. (it is very doubtful this year) IF youu guys are geeks let me meet more of the same. It takes one to know one. :-) I don't know how to close...so i'll just close Love, Bree _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:53:18 -0800 From: "Robert Holliston" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) YES! Happy Birthday, Sweet Suze - here's that weird minor, sounding just for you..... Big old hugs, Roberto Julius wrote: >Happy birthday, Sweet Sue C. May all your dreams come true... _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:50:47 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: (njc) Janis Ian -- guitar player, incredible lyricist and (!!!) a columnist? WOW you have some memory!! I don't belive I could have. You had it tuff too. I'm sorry I hadn't gotten to your psot before I posted to Walt,COlin and Mack. Thanks for posting the complete lyrics. truly amazing lyrics. LOve, bree >"At Seventeen" is one of the most amazing > > lyrics ever written: > > > >> . , > > when it came out in '75 (I think), are hard to describe -- my god, >there's > > someone who not only knows how I felt at that age (I was 19 when the >song > > came out), but who puts it so eloquently, and makes a hit of it -- what > > triumph! > >I know I was in college when this song came out and I felt very much the >same way you did, Walt. I was probably about 20 so around '75 would be >right. I felt somewhat vindicated by the success of this song. It really >felt good to hear someone express it so beautifully. > >Mark E in Seattle >who never attended a prom or a high school reunion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 04:05:26 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: (njc) Janis Ian You are too funny!! Who would ever thunk that you like to give wedgies. See what non-geeks miss out on.... Bree > >Bree asks Walt: > ><< Do you also have cooties? ;-) >> > >I met Walt, Bree, when he came to my Fizzies party in Providence last fall. >I >can assure you that he does not have cooties. I should know because I >always >give geeks wedgies! > > --Bob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 07:11:08 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: Women in Jazz (Abbey Lincoln) << I wonder if she has covered any Joni? BOB? >> I haven't turned up anything by Abbey, but it wouldn't surprise me if she has a BSN in her past! ;~) Bob NP: Amy Grant, "Big Yellow Taxi" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:55:57 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Colin,Mack,Walt NJCl > After reading uyour post I realize i did not have it so bad after all. You know, Bree someone always has it worse-those children killed each week in my country by their parents(2 a week), those on the streets, those in war torn, famine struck countries. That doesn't make your experience any the less. We each have our shit to deal with and minimising it is not healthy. Nor is lvivng it without trying to helaing it. Not criricsing you, hope it doesn't come across that way. Just trying to state that the girl you were and pain you suffered is as legitimate as anyone elses. love colin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:34:58 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: AI NJC - --- colin wrote: > We just this film. It was well made and filmed etc > but what was it > about? Was there a point? > Didn't get emotionally invloved at all. They were > robots, including the > boy, well acted as always by Haley. But so what? If > there was deeper > meaning to this film, it passed us by. > Anyone have an idea what it was about? LOL, Colin. It had pretty much the same effect on me. As you say, wonderful acting by Haley Joel Osment. The Jude Law character/android was vaguely interesting, but I didn't get the point of it either, esp. the end. All I can say is, if you see it as a fairy tale (Pinocchio, Hansel & Gretel, that kind of thing, lost babes in the wood), then it kind of works. (but not really.) I think when the mix of Kubrick/Spielberg/ weird/cute just doesn't work. I also find myself asking myself "when is it going to be over?" is a sure indicator that the film has lost me (and is too long.) ______________________________________________________________________ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:05:50 -0800 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Ent. Weekly Letter to Editor You may recall I posted the following a couple of weeks ago: "... in the 3/1/02 issue of Entertainment. The article is called On the Road Again about author Elizabeth Wurtzel who wrote a book called "Prozac Nation" and has now come out with another called "More, Now, Again: A Memoir of Addiction." In reaction to the less-than-stellar reviews, it says, "She doesn't understand why the literary world gives her such a hard time for writing another autobiography. "Joni Mitchell has 20 albums about her emotional problems," she points out, "and nobody says, 'Oh my God ... can't she do anything else?'" In the 3/29/02 issue of Entertainment Weekly, there is the following Letter to the Editor: "Ms. Wurtzel's attempt to compare herself to Joni Mitchell in her use of self-referential material shows that what she might lack in self-knowledge, she makes up for in ego. It apparently has not occurred to her that the difference between her and Ms. Mitchell is that Mitchell is an artist of immeasurable talent, as both a poet and composer. Mitchell uses her experience as a backdrop, not a soapbox." Signed by N. Knox, New York City. Hats off to you, N. Knox, and to EW for having the level-headedness to print it! Happy Oscar Day! Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:11:40 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: my so called life njc I liked that show too. But I realized I was getting old when I thought the father was 'hot!" :-) lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:36:06 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: (njc) Janis Ian colin wrote: > I have quite number of Janis Ian albums. At Seventeen and Jesse are two of the > most heartbreaking songs ever. Saw Joan Baez last night and she did a gorgeous Jesse. Still one of my favorite songs. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:05:16 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Colin,Mack,Walt NJCl > > After reading uyour post I realize i did not have it so bad after all. > > You know, Bree someone always has it worse-those children killed each week in my > country by their parents(2 a week), those on the streets, those in war torn, > famine struck countries. That doesn't make your experience any the less. We each > have our shit to deal with and minimising it is not healthy. Nor is lvivng it > without trying to helaing it. I just want to clarify here & now that my experience growing up was a walk in the park compared to what Colin has told us about. There are certainly worse things than not being popular in high school. I was made fun of but for whatever reason, managed to avoid the physical abuse that a lot of gays suffer during childhood and adolescence. I did date a couple of girls in high school so maybe that was enough to cast a shadow of doubt in people's minds. One of these girls I may have ended up marrying if I hadn't broken up with her. That would have been a huge mistake for both of us. But I was different, no question about it, and most of my classmates never let me forget it. Confusion, guilt, fear about one's sexuality are very difficult emotions to cope with & overcome. I don't want to minimize that. But I certainly didn't have it nearly as bad growing up as a lot of other people. Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:11:17 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) To you, Sue! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:18:18 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Roberta Flack - njc > Saw Joan Baez last night and she did a gorgeous Jesse. Still one of my favorite > songs. > > Jerry > Roberta Flack also did a beautiful, slow, aching version of this song on her 'Killing Me Softly' lp. And speaking of Roberta Flack, what ever became of her? I remember when 'The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face' came out, I thought it was one of the most beautiful things I'd ever heard. I recently bought 'First Take' on cd. The funny thing is, I must have picked up the vinyl version of this record dozens of times back when I was a teen and toyed with the idea of buying it and never did. What was the matter with me? There was a thread about great debut albums recently and I think 'First Take' belongs on that list. A gorgeous voice, great songs and such soulful, expressive singing. I did buy 'Killing Me Softly' on vinyl and always loved that record. But it seems Roberta kind of faded into the woodwork. I do remember 'Feel Like Making Love' and thinking 'why did she record this dreck?' Did her choice of material go downhill? Did people just lose interest? Anyone know what happened to her? And back to the great debuts thread, did anyone mention 'Rickie Lee Jones'? I'm sure someone did, but just in case. Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:45:21 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Ent. Weekly Letter to Editor Kickin' ass and takin' names! Thanks for posting this, Lindsay. Mark NPITOR-Oh Brother Where Art Thou? At 9:05 AM -0800 3/24/02, Lindsay Moon wrote: >In the 3/29/02 issue of Entertainment Weekly, there is the following Letter >to the Editor: "Ms. Wurtzel's attempt to compare herself to Joni Mitchell >in her use of self-referential material shows that what she might lack in >self-knowledge, she makes up for in ego. It apparently has not occurred to >her that the difference between her and Ms. Mitchell is that Mitchell is an >artist of immeasurable talent, as both a poet and composer. Mitchell uses >her experience as a backdrop, not a soapbox." Signed by N. Knox, New York >City. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:43:50 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Ent. Weekly Letter to Editor Let's make this N.Knox honorary something. I wonder if they are on the list? I'm curious about the N...could it be Nancy,Nathan,Natasha,Norbert,Noel,.....ah..Nick,maybe? OR Nell? Ned.... Bree NP:Erroll Garner:A Foggy Day Happy Oscar Day to you to!! (I've seen only two of the five nominated pictures this year. :-( >It apparently has not occurred to >her that the difference between her and Ms. Mitchell is that Mitchell is an >artist of immeasurable talent, as both a poet and composer. Mitchell uses >her experience as a backdrop, not a soapbox." Signed by N. Knox, New York >City. > >Hats off to you, N. Knox, and to EW for having the level-headedness to >print it! Happy Oscar Day! > >Lindsay _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:56:02 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Colin,Mack,Walt NJCl - --- Mark or Travis wrote: > I just want to clarify here & now that my experience > growing up was a walk > in the park compared to what Colin has told us > about. There are certainly > worse things than not being popular in high school. > I was made fun of but > for whatever reason, managed to avoid the physical > abuse that a lot of gays > suffer during childhood and adolescence. I did date > a couple of girls in > high school so maybe that was enough to cast a > shadow of doubt in people's > minds. One of these girls I may have ended up > marrying if I hadn't broken > up with her. That would have been a huge mistake > for both of us. But I was > different, no question about it, and most of my > classmates never let me > forget it. Confusion, guilt, fear about one's > sexuality are very difficult > emotions to cope with & overcome. I don't want to > minimize that. But I > certainly didn't have it nearly as bad growing up as > a lot of other people. > I think that, once you grow up, you realize you weren't the only one who felt alienated and confused - except that, back then, you probably thought you were the only person in the universe who was *such* a loser. I felt like a total geek all through high school (still do very often, 'cept now, most of the time, it doesn't bother me much!) but years later, talking to others that seemed OK at the time, I found out that many of them felt the same way. Which is not to mitigate the fact that there were bullies then, as there are now, that relish making others' lives miserable, by their words or by their actions. I was never picked for sports teams either but years later, I don't even care - I never cared much for most sports, especially of the team variety, so I really didn't want to be picked at all for the baseball team! As far as sexuality is concerned, I think it's unusual when young people ARE sure of theirs, whether they're gay or straight. The teenaged years are tough to go through altogether, so kids who have confidence are pretty unusual, IMO. Let me tell you - I would never go back there again! I'm so glad to see that my daugher, who has just turned 15, is enjoying high school (so far). She doesn't belong to the "cool" kids and sometimes she refers to herself and her friends as the "losers" but she laughs about it. I reminded her that those who are "cool" now (the ones that smoke, do drugs, steal, make fun of or bully others) will, for the most part, be tomorrow's losers - - a few of them will realize they're making a mistake and will change (and be the better for their experience) but others will just go on being the same - - getting drunk, getting high, not doing much of anything at all. The geeks win in the end (ha ha). ______________________________________________________________________ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:56:56 -0500 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: my so called life njc Oh Anne, you crack me up! I thought the dad was hot too, but Jared Leto holds my heart. Man, when he and his band (what was their name? started with an r??) played I just swooned. n.p. sound of my husband snoring to NASCAR :-) 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:06:19 -0800 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: my so called life njc Coming out of lurkdom to say that My So-Called Life is one of my all time favourite TV shows. My daughter, who was about Angela's age when the show was airing, and I recently watched the entire series over again. I don't think there has ever been another show that portrays the roller coaster teenage years as well. But beyond that, the humanity of all the characters is astounding. There isn't a caricature or throw-away in the entire cast. When I first saw the last episode (which they wrote after they realized the show was being cancelled) I felt disappointed that there was no ending. But after watching it several more times, I came to accept it as a near perfect ending. (In my future scenario Angela eventually grows beyond Jordan but never gets together with Brian. Sad, but that's life.) Ranger Rick on 3/23/02 4:56 PM, mack watson-bush at courtandspark@earthlink.net wrote: > kate, that show was also one of my favorites. So darn good, well-written, > well-acted, etc. I have all of them on tape and occasionally watch them to > feel it over again. I like to believe, and actually can do so, that Angela > and the rest are still living their lives in Pittsburgh. Rosalie is so much > like Angela that it is scary and I have her here with me. Lucky. Too bad it > didn't get any attention. Always wondered what Angela would have done after > she drove away in Jordan's car and looked back at Brian, realizing that he was > the one with so much inner depth. > > mack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:06:43 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: my so called life njc << n.p. sound of my husband snoring to NASCAR :-) >> Sue, you crack me up. Please tell me you'll be at Jonifest. XO, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:47:51 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: McCartney ticket njc I have 1 extra ticket to Paul McCartney at the Oakland Arena on April 1. If interested, contact me off-list. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:1:14 -0800 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: RE: Subject: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) > To you, Sue! > To you Sue, too!!! - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the spring to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:46:02 -0500 From: Brian Gross Subject: What Do You Know? njc Was this OUR Howard Motyl who played the quiz and won on this weekend's edition of Michael Feldman's radio show on NPR? The broadcast was done from Chicago and I seem to recall him being from that part of the country. Take care, everyone Brei in E.S.C. nw: Biography - Robert Redford - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:58:22 -0500 From: chiaroscuro@SNET.Net Subject: Re: Great guitarists with a vulva NJC I just picked up the Michael Hedges CD " Beyond Boundaries". For those of you not familiar with his music, I highly suggest this one. The world lost a truly great talent when he died. I regret I never got to see him play. There are some tunes on this CD recorded live. Heather >Me: >Patty Larkin is an amazing talent. Terrific songwriter and stickler for >sonic perfection in her recordings. She has an in-home studio with all the >latest gear. Her dexterity on the acoustic guitar puts her, in my opinion, >in the same league as Michael Hedges and Leo Kottke. This is no casual >strummer...she really knows her way around the axe. > >Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:04:55 -0500 From: chiaroscuro@snet.net Subject: Re: top 100 guitar players (njc) Susan - There is a website that you can contact her at. I'll get back to you with that. She just answered an e-mail saying she has just finished a tour in Japan. Yes, she does answer her e-mails! I believe it is from Alberta. I am trying to get some local clubs to book her here in CT. I've been trying to encourage her to come back to the New England / NYC area. We last saw her 4 years ago here in CT. She really has a powerful presence on stage! As Roberto said " she IS white hot". Heather At 10:57 AM 3/22/02 -0800, Susan Guzzi wrote: >Heather wrote: >I would like to add Ellen McIlwaine to this list of women guitar players. >I know she isn't well >known but ... > >Hi Heather, > >I'll second that! Seems way back we discussed Ellen here. I saw her over >20 years ago at a club >here in Chicago - Gaspars, now known as Schubas. I was totally blown away >by her playing and her >energy! Anyone know of her whereabouts these days? I'd love to hear that >she's still out there >strummin' and sliding away! > >Just nice to see she's remembered - thanks Heather. > >Peace, >Susan >Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. >http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:10:30 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc)Women of Rockabilly -- I'm a-tapin' it Hi, all, Just a quick note -- I made a note to myself to tape a show on PBS called "Women of Rockabilly", featuring Wanda Jackson, Janis Martin, Lorrie Collins and Brenda Lee (i've only ever heard of the last of these myself). Good thing I make notes -- I almost forgot -- anyway, I'm taping it not for myself (not my usual taste in music, but kind of fun) but in case any of *you* might want it. Interviews with the aforementioned, lots of great clips, comments by music historians, etc. Anybody wants it, let me know. Ciao, y'all, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:16:48 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: "Stropping Sheilas" and other interesting stuff on San Francisco PBS...(some jc) Hi, Hell and everybody, In addition to the "Women of Rcokabilly" thing I mentioned in my previous post, they did their abbreviated version of PWWAM last night, did something called "If Women Ruled the World" at noon today, and later today they're showing both parts of Holly Morris's tour of New Zealand in search of (and I quote) "stropping sheilas" (trans: "intriguing women"). It's called "Adventure Divas", and yes, I'll be taping that, too, in case Hell is *on* it - -- or in case she or anyone else wants to *see* it. A big stropping Kiwi Ciao, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:27:24 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc) Aborigines in South America!!??!! Hi, Ok, this'll be my last TV posting for today. I just watched a fascinating show on something I'd not heard about, but which i find extremely exciting, especially in view of the news just this week that there is solid evidence that the Chinese visited the Western Hemisphere quite a while before any Europeans did. But there appears to be evidence that there was human habitation *long* before the first wave of human immigration from mainland Asia made it (slowly) down to the southern tip of SA (about 9 - 12 thousand years ago). There's evidence that there was human habitation about 40 thousand years ago - -- and both cultural and even DNA evidence that these people came from Australia or thereabouts!!! The culture of the Fueguians (named, I presume, after Tierra del *Fuego*) was still relatively unaffected into the early part of the 20th century, and some of the people from that last intact era are still alive. In addition to DNA evidence, there are cultural similarities to aboriginal cultures. This blows my mind, although I don't know why it should. The more we dig, the more we'll learn. Any other jmdlers heard anything about this? This is the first I've heard of it. TV isn't all wasteland. :-) Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:29:28 -0500 From: chiaroscuro@SNET.Net Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!!! (NJC) Happy Birthday Sue!!!! Hey - stop sending that cold air to New Engalnd! ;-) Heather - (The weather station is on waaaay too much in our house.) At 10:57 PM 3/23/02 -0500, AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: >Waiting all day for the birthday fairy to arrive, but he must be awfully busy >today. (I know how much he hates not being the first to say Happy Birthday.) >The very happiest of birthdays to Sue Cameron!! Hope your day was >WONDERFUL!!! :-) > >Hugs, >Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:40:07 -0500 From: chiaroscuro@SNET.Net Subject: Re: (njc) Janis Ian -- guitar player, incredible lyricist and (!!!) a columnist? "Society's Child" always made me sad when I heard it. I would think these lyrics would still ring true today, no? With all the problems kids face today ... seems it hasn't changed all that much but it is enhanced through the media. Heather At 07:38 PM 3/23/02 -0500, Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: >I wonder if Janis really felt this way, or if she was just writing about >geeks in general. I always thought she was kinda cute! Besides, how many of >the other kids with whom she interacted at that age could say they had >experienced fame and had had a major hit ("Society's Child") long before they >were 17 years old? > >I wonder -- what are her lyrics like these days? I don't think I ever really >paid much attention to her after her "Society's Child" album came out. I do >remember one song from that long-lost album, and I'm not going to even guess >at the title, that had the lyrics that went something like this: > >Don't talk about sex >You might get hexed >God will punish you >For your dirty mind >It's no sin to enjoy a raping >Just to find out the facts of life >So you make it with your mind > >Pretty provocative stuff for a (I think) 13 year old in the 1960s. Is her >current stuff worth checking out? > > --Bob (whose name was never called when choosing sides for basketball, >hastily making Saturday night plans so he won't feel like a geek) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:48:19 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Jaco... the early years. njc Soon to be available on CD: Bob Bobbing and Jaco Pastorius met in 1967, the year Jaco started playing the bass. They became great friends and were hanging out four and five days a week long before Jaco had any notoriety as a bass player. An accomplished bassist himself, Bobbing was intrigued by Jaco's natural ability and became more like his manager, helping him to get gigs, buy equipment, or just promote him in any way that he could. He also recorded Jaco at every opportunity making stereo reel-to-reel recordings of almost everything that he did, not knowing that some day these tapes would be the only documentation of his early years. Now, some 30 years later, Bobbing has carefully edited his collection and acquired other materials to offer to Jaco's fans this exclusive anthology of Jaco's early years. "This was a very positive period for Jaco," says Bobbing. "These were his Garden of Eden days in Florida when he was healthy, happy, making music and enjoying life, and you can hear that positive attitude in his playing." Within the context of these early recordings you'll hear a downpour of melodic ideas including the seeds for many of Jaco's classics. With his unparalleled facility, Jaco plays funk lines and solo's that rival his best recordings, but without a doubt the most important find in this early Jaco anthology are the previously unreleased Pastorius original compositions. This never-before-heard collection, in itself, should make for the most unique and sought after release in the last 20 years. This vital era has never been covered before, It's entirely fresh, and long overdue . More info: http://www.jacotheearlyyears.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:19:18 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: (njc) Janis Ian -- guitar player, incredible lyricist and (!!!) a columnist? absolutely, i think that song still has so much relevance. >>"Society's Child" always made me sad when I heard it. I would think these lyrics would still ring true today, no? With all the problems kids face today ... seems it hasn't changed all that much but it is enhanced through the media. Heather<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:17:17 -0800 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Re: Jaco... the early years. Fascinating. I can't wait to have this. The notes on the website say that the cds feature "rare" interviews...at least one with Joni. I recall Joni being as impressed with Jaco the pianist as with Jaco the bassist. Who could be a better authority? Where are the piano recordings, I wonder? - -Julius - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Irvin" To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: Jaco... the early years. njc > Soon to be available on CD: > > > More info: http://www.jacotheearlyyears.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:27:06 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: my so-called life njc Wasn't the name of the band the frozen embryo's? I will have to look up an episode now and find it. mack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:32:28 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: my so-called life njc Anne, I also thought the dad was pretty sexy. Incidentally, his name, the actor, is Tom Irvin. Any relation to our Les? mack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:36:02 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: my so-called life njc oops, I did get the tapes out and it is irwin, not irvin. mack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:59:45 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Happy Oscar Day (some Joni but mostly NJC) Rick wrote: > Just got it from a little Oscar soiree here in >LA hosted by a new pal of mine that's up for >a big, big award. Oh do tell! I was so excited about this particular Oscars because of it being brough back almost to its original location on Hollywood Blvd. The new Kodak Theater and complex is so wonderful and all part of an incredible revitalization of the area going on in recent years. I got up early this morning to wact the pre-pre shows and I usually never get up early on weekend or watch the "E" channel. On one of the pre-shows, which I don't know if it was shown nationally or internationally, Jennifer Connelly, who was up for and one best supporting actress for Beautiful Mind, was pulled over and asked if she was nervous. She got a radiant look on her face and said (paraphrasing) "no, I listened to a Joni Mitchell album on the way over and it was wonderful - she is such a wonderful songwriter - and I'm just happy to be here and enjoying it all." She seemed to be indicating that listening to Joni could positively transcend any situation. The Oscars - did anyone else notice that Ian McKellan and several associates of the LOTR's contingent were wearing Maori stone necklaces just like the ones Hell gave as gifts at Jonifest last year? I was very happy with all the winning choices and thought they were all well-deserved. Halle Berry might have gone on a little long, but hey, and tears were streaming down my face right along with her. Sidney Poitier was magnificent. Whoopi was pretty funny and thank goodness Randy Newman finally won after 16 tries! I thought it was a sweet night in a very beautiful new theater. Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #134 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?