From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #131 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, March 23 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 131 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: pit bulls njc [colin ] Joni Companion photo error [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: on diana krall & joni's managers [shane ] Re: (now, njc)My piece for J-Fest '02, and Diana Krall in Bay Area? ["Bre] Re: RLJ and deconstruction (njc) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: RLJ and deconstruction (njc) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: (njc) the vote in Florida and other stuff [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Subject: Re: Great guitarists with a vulva/ six feet under NJC ["Kate Be] Education NJC ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Pat Metheny ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: LOVE njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Women guitarists [Steve Dulson ] Re: pit bulls njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Elvis speaks ["Sue Cameron" ] Re: Songs Inspired by Literature (NJC) [Gil Lamont ] Re: SUVs and dogs and Law and Order (NJC) ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Mistake NJC ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: Elvis speaks [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Mistake NJC [colin ] chase sanborn jazz trumpeter NJC [Mags ] Audiophile's corner, was Pat's solo on S&L, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama] Re: Great guitarists with a vulva ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: (njc)My (shudder) voice [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: Elvis speaks ["Bree Mcdonough" ] (njc) You gotta love the World Weekly News! (content warning -- vaguely sexual, and VERY silly) [] Re: women guitarists ["Marian" ] (njc) Janis Ian -- guitar player, incredible lyricist and (!!!) a columnist? [BigWaltinSF@ao] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:45:55 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: pit bulls njc mack watson-bush wrote: > The dog that I have had the most trouble with is a German Shepherd mix. She > routinely has to rule over the other four dogs and would regularly beat the > stuffing out of the poor, now run over pit bull, named Gypsy. This dog has to > be the top of the heap and the first at everything. Very jealous and will get > very angry if i give another dog attention. That includes the male and half > pit. She rules the roost, so to speak. She is obviously top dog, but second in command. you are the TOP DOG, so to speak. It is a veyr hard lesson to learn, but I now let mine fight if they are going to. That way they sort out the heirachy. Unless of course they look like they kill eachother-ie grabbed round the neck. We had two, Spy and Falan that hated eachtoehr and eventually Spy was rehomed. Now we have no problems as long as we keep the boys apart. Bear in mind all mine are entire so keeping boys together is asking for trouble. It appears that Brad is Boss but it is in reality martha. Brad had a go at her a while ago and she flew right back at him. Brad immediately backed down and looked so confused. He slunk away from her and now accepts hers as Boss. However, he behaves like he is Boss for appearances sake! > > > mack - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:39:24 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni Companion photo error << it is soooooo obviously rickie lee jones performing with bonnie. >> Stacey didn't get a chance to do a final review before the book went to print, she was aware of the error the second she saw it and felt pretty bad knowing that she would take the hit. She was on the list for awhile, maybe she's here still. A real sweetheart! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:48:02 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: shane Subject: Re: on diana krall & joni's managers hi bree, what a lovely, lovely moment you had with diana! you and kakki, and not just a few other jmdlers seem to have a special knack for fine moments with diana, joni, others... mine was spending an afternoon with john hammond jr., playing darts with him, visiting, exchanging presents and invitations...listening to him describe when he went out with joni, sometime after her split with chuck...john said, 'she was a truly wonderful lady in every respect'...and that's coming from one of the finest gentlemen in the music business... joni, john hammond jr, and diana krall have all played with the best in jazz and blues...good reason for their warm humanity... cheers, shane - -------Original Message------- From: Bree Mcdonough Date: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:16:42 PM To: KakkiB@worldnet.att.net; cactussong@shaw.ca; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: on diana krall & joni's managers Have you seen D.K. perform live Kakki? Her enthusiasm for what she is doing up on stage is just so infectious. >The article noted that two of Peggy's biggest fans are >k.d. lang and Diana. She spoke of Peggy Lee quite a bit the other night,obviously in awe of her. And lamented that she never got to meet her. She told the audience,"You know she died not too long ago".... you could really feel the sorrow in her voice. > I am very happy for her success having read of many, >including Joni, praising her for being a truly nice person. Her niceness really came through. Not a bit uppity. She was really thrilled that *we* came to see her. And when I gave her the roses her expression was like.......Shit, for me!! Genuinely humble!! This woman amazes me. My friend, Andre, is going to bring his new little video recording device with him when we see her next Tuesday in Louisville,Ky. I told him if you get caught,I'll say I don't know you. lol Bree _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:59:11 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: (now, njc)My piece for J-Fest '02, and Diana Krall in Bay Area? Yes, I'll be "singing" -- reaching all the thrilling highs and subsonic lows >of my 1/3 of an octave "singing" voice. At 6'6" you must have a low,low voice? ;-) I heard Liza just got her 3 octave back. >sitting, usually squished (I'm 6'6") into a seat, and needing to be able to >get out at any time during a long conert a problem. I don't know how you would even sit without your knees being up to your chin in those type seats. I'm 5'10 and one of those "fat bottom girls" that Queen sang about and it is tuff for me. >performance venues themselves who hold blocks of seats until the last >second, >then let them go late? Inquisitive me checked this out and this is how it works. And I thought my friend had done something magical. Bree >hugs, Walt _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:01:12 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: RLJ and deconstruction (njc) Joseph, Thanks for the tips -- I was a RLJ fan for her first five albums or so, then lost track, then was aghast when i bought Ghostyhead and couldn't bear to listen to it. I have heard of PopPop, and from your description -- and one from Bob, I suspect from my mail bin -- I'm tempted to check it out. Ditto for the Holly Cole and Patricia Barber songs. Thanks, as always, Joseph, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:10:25 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: RLJ and deconstruction (njc) BigWaltinSF@aol.com wrote: > Joseph, > > Thanks for the tips -- I was a RLJ fan for her first five albums or so, then > lost track, then was aghast when i bought Ghostyhead and couldn't bear to > listen to it. I have heard of PopPop, and from your description -- and one > from Bob, I suspect from my mail bin -- I'm tempted to check it out. You won't regret getting Pop Pop. A real classic. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:32:09 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: shane Subject: john hammond john hammond's "wicked grin" was rightly deemed a classic for this new album of tom waits songs... for those who would like to hear one more of joni's love's, a classy veteran of the miss. delta blues, at his site you can download 4 full songs from this great new album: http://www.johnhammond.com/ just press for "audio" and then right click on the song, then click "save as target" skol, shane *************************** you sang for me like the seagulls in their homeless liberty just floating on the dayspring in their sighing daydreams... - -from 'sandefjord' www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong . [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:34:41 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc) the vote in Florida and other stuff In a message dated 3/22/02 11:10:44 AM, groovchacha@yahoo.com writes: << Just wondering if he's [Scalia] having a special robe designed for his witch hunts, ala Rheinquist. >> Susan, let's hope it's a pink pinafore (a la J. E. Hoover), which might just destroy what credibility he supposedly has left. Nice to picture, in a gross-out kinda way. :-) Best, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:51:42 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Re: Great guitarists with a vulva/ six feet under NJC LSLISTC (laughing so loudly i scared the cat) since i make the coffee every morning but am always the second one to get up, i had the perfect opportunity to use that line on monday morning... for those of you who don't watch six feet under, you can view the scene here! http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/episode/season2/season2_eps3.shtml#. ps my heart is breaking over gabe & claire & i am in love with keith ("because he loves her") >>i had to respond to this, because 1. i think you've been watching six feet under... and <<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:01:20 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Education NJC I never knew this :) http://www.sparklet.com/~royce/trams/KnowJackSchitt.swf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:51:39 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Pat Metheny Beautifully said Fred. All that I can add is this- Experiencing these two in concert was akin to having some kind of spiritual experience (& many others have said this same thing). Life affirming, yes! And, I confess that I am not that much of a jazz follower or very knowledgeable about much of the genre...but Metheny & Mays are something not to be missed in this lifetime. >>Pat and his primary collaborator, pianist/keyboardist Lyle Mays, have produced an astounding body of work spanning 25 unflaggingly consistent years. It's music on the highest level of imagination, innovation, intelligence, and invention ... soulfully bittersweet and utterly life affirming, weaving multiple genres into a personal tapestry, equally informed by the improvisatory process of jazz and the compositional process of classical music and the accessible buoyancy of pop, performed and recorded according to the highest possible standards of execution, fluency, elegance, grace, and majesty. Music that moves the heart and delights the mind. I often get the same deep joy and satisfaction listening to the Pat Metheny Group as I do listening to The Beatles; indeed, the collaborative team of Metheny/Mays easily recalls that of Lennon/McCartney.<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:51:41 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: LOVE njc wow, this is so fabulous sharon, i too thought you were just talking about the tart! lol! thanks for sharing with us your bliss! it is infectuous! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:06:30 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Women guitarists From Steve's concert list - hey, I don't have much to flaunt any more...:) 1 Fanny Troubadour West Hollywood 10/12/74 4* Susan D. 1 Fure, Tret Folk Alliance Jacksonville 2/21/02 4 Michele, etc. 1 Ian, Janis Universal Amphitheatre Universal City 8/3/76 4* Sally P.,Doug, George 2 Ian, Janis Drake Stadium UCLA 6/5/93 4 Michele, June, Laurel 1 McIlwaine, Ellen Civic AuditoriumSanta Monica 5/9/76 2 Chelsea 1 Raitt, Bonnie Fox Venice Venice 2/14/75 4* Nancy 2 Raitt, Bonnie Universal Amphitheatre Universal City 8/16/78 4* Susan D. 3 Raitt, Bonnie Irvine Meadows Irvine 10/20/91 4* Michele, Ken Z., Kathy 4 Raitt, Bonnie Civic Auditorium Santa Monica 8/8/00 4 M,Heidi, Emil, Kakki, Mixons and you've all seen my Joni list. :) - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:27:49 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: pit bulls njc My son grew up around pitbulls. Once upon a time I rented a cottage on a property where the owners had 2 of them. The younger one was a mix, the older one was purebred. They were both very sweet natured & my son played with them from ages 3 to 10...he used to throw lemons for them to catch. For some reason I didn't worry about these dogs & my son loved them. Knowing what I know now, I am amazed that I was so trusting but truly they adored my son too. Just writing this freaks me out a bit though. Once, a housesitter made the grave mistake of not separating the dogs at dinner time. They were at each others throats in an instant with their huge clamped jaws & it took me & a long time with a full power water hose to get them apart...the older one ended up at the vets but recovered. After that they were best of friends again. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:38:46 -0500 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: Elvis speaks Elvis Costello, one of my favs, picks Joni's lyrics as #1 in a USA weekend article. Issue Date: March 24, 2002 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Elvis Costello picks the song lyrics that inspire him 1. "Dressed in stolen clothes she stands, cast iron and frail With her impossibly gentle hands and blood-red fingernails" Shades Of Scarlet Conquering, Joni Mitchell - -- The precision of a novelist and the eye of a painter create this portrait of an overwrought and needy woman. There is also a beautiful reference to "magnolias hopeful in her auburn hair." These are some of my favorites too! Now I know why I always loved Elvis. Peace, Suze ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:06:49 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Songs Inspired by Literature (NJC) Richard wrote: >There is the new CD, only available in the UK, not with Joni, alas, but... >it's all Shakespeare, either sung or read. >And the highlight (for me at least) is Rufus Wainwright's composition >and singing (with his mom, Kate, on banjo) doing "Sonnet#29: "When In >Disgrace With Fortune And Men's Eyes". It's gorgeous, and . . .the >mp3 of it is downloadable at: >http://homepage.mac.com/richardsfgoldperson it's "Sonnet+29.mp3" Way back when, Tom Rapp did a wonderful country version of #65, "Since brass, nor stone, nor earth, nor boundless sea". Apparently out of print, and certainly not on CD ... or is it? he wonders with thoughtful look and furrowed brow. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:29:02 -0500 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: SUVs and dogs and Law and Order (NJC) All of this talk about SUVs and dogs now....made me think of the tv series here in the US called Law and Order (Mr. Big!!). There is the original, Law and Order, then Law and Order Criminal Intent and Law and Order Special Victims Unit (SVU). Should we now have a Law and Order SUV, so when your dog gets loose of your Sports Utility Vehicle tv drama can ensue? Sorry, rambling this Friday evening... Suze n.p. replay of last night's NCSS tourney victory for Kent State featuring home town hero Trevor Huffman. Elite Eight! 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:43:23 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: SUVs and dogs and Law and Order (NJC) Good idea Suze. An SUV with white poodles. Big and posh. Suze Cameron wrote: > Should we now have a Law and Order SUV, so when your > dog gets loose of your Sports Utility Vehicle tv drama > can ensue? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:40:30 -0500 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Doh! (njc) I wrote: >n.p. replay of last night's NCSS tourney victory for Kent >State featuring home town hero Trevor Huffman. Elite >Eight! NCAA! Homerow please Mrs. Cameron :-) 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:02:34 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Mistake NJC Please forgive me sending that stupid cartoon out. I only saw the beginning of it and sent it out. Once I got past the guy sitting before all the books I was ready to turn it off. Sorry for being a noodle. Love and Peace...Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:15:47 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Elvis speaks << Elvis Costello picks the song lyrics that inspire him >> Hey Sue the scam! Those were the same lyrics he pointed in the Vanity Fair piece on Joni a couple of years back. His new one is out in about a month, and it's rumored to be awesome. And Elvis singing Joni will be out in less than a month, so don't touch that dial! Bob NP: Bryan Thomas, "Black Crow" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:23:18 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Mistake NJC what on earth are you apologising for? That was very funny! And I know you all think i don't have a brain, so i thought I'd tell you John thought it was hilarious too and he has degrees and stuff and uses lots of long words in his books and lectures....... "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > Please forgive me sending that stupid cartoon out. I only saw the > beginning of it and sent it out. Once I got past the guy sitting before > all the books I was ready to turn it off. > > Sorry for being a noodle. > > Love and Peace...Sharon - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:59:17 -0500 From: Mags Subject: chase sanborn jazz trumpeter NJC sorry for the bandwidth...just wanted to say that I have just received a note from Chase Sanborn, friend and wonderful trumpeter in Toronto who has a new book on jazz improvisation. If anyone is interested in the info about the book or his CDs (all of which are fabulous!!!) please contact me off list. Chase is a fine flugelhorn player and has recorded with Guido Basso, Mark Eisenman et al. many thanks, Mags ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:26:01 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Audiophile's corner, was Pat's solo on S&L, njc This is interesting. You're the only person I've read (outside of my audiophile magazines) who runs an outboard processor. I think spending money on a processor makes more sense than spending it on a transport, amp or cabling. I'm still thinking that a VPI turntable and a hideously expensive cartridge is in my future. Thanks for checking in on this topic. Lama Laurent wrote: The main advantage for me (in DVD) is if you plug into your stereo system you'll get CD sound quality, which even a hifi VHS is far from. By the way, if you're using a separate processor then you can get a cheap DVD player and use the hifi processor instead of the DVD player's buit in one for great sound. (edited) Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:49:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Great guitarists with a vulva Wasn't Many Moore a band leader in the Catskills during the forties? Surely you remember "Many Moore and the Happy Returns". hee hee Lama Sadly, my mind works like this without any chemical enhancement at all. - --- FredNow@aol.com wrote: > Joni was the only on the list of 100, but what > about: > > Bonnie Raitt! > Shawn Colvin! > Jonatha Brooke! > (the late) Emily Remler! > Leni Stern! > Bonnie Raitt! (she's so damn good gotta say it > twice) > > ... and Many Moore! Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:29:43 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc)My (shudder) voice In a message dated 3/22/02 12:59:49 PM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: << At 6'6" you must have a low,low voice? ;-) >> Let's put it this way -- when I say hello (to anyone), I get subsonic answers from the elephants at the S.F. Zoo -- asking me *please* not to sing anymore. I'm jealous of Liza -- 3 octaves! -- that's nine times my range!!! hugs, walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:41:37 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Elvis speaks >And Elvis singing Joni will be out in less than a month, so don't touch >that >dial! ALRIGHT!! A good teaser!! I also have Passion play to look forward to. Bree NP:Compilation video:Anne Sandstrom > >Bob > >NP: Bryan Thomas, "Black Crow" _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:47:25 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc) You gotta love the World Weekly News! (content warning -- vaguely sexual, and VERY silly) [For those of you not familiar with the World Weekly News, it's a surrealistic version of the weekly tabloid, making essentially no attempt at verification, as you can tell from the following... Strange typos may be from the original, or from repeated forwardings. Enjoy -- Walt] World Weekly News SADDAM'S GAY LOVER TELLS ALL! - WITH PHOTO PROOF! 'Iraqi dictator isn't the man he pretends to be' By VINCENZO SARDI PARIS -- Iraqi strongman Saddam Hussein has split from his longtime gay lover after a bitter public spat -- and now the flamboyant dictator's ex-boyfriend is telling all the juicy detailsof the breakup! "Saddam treated me like dirt," angry Terry Hammell, now 36, said in a world-exclusive interview. "He used me as a sexual plaything for years and then, when he decided I was getting too old, he tossed measide like some used Kleenex. He just broke my heart." Spurned Terry cataloged his much-older lover's misdeeds, claiming that Saddam: Forced him to dress up for bizarre "role play" games, including "Cellmates in a Turkish Prison," "Patient and Nurse" and "Sultan and Harem Boy." Subjected him to "daily bare-bottomed spankings." Made him work out four hours a day to maintain a lean, sexy body. Cheated on him repeatedly with hunky soldiers from the elite Republican Guard. Verbally abused him when he gained weight, mockingly calling him "my little sow." Infected him with at least three sexually transmitted diseases.French-born Terry says that when the relationship began well overa decade ago, he thought he'd met the man of his dreams. "I was just 25 at the time and I was flattered by the attention,"he says. "We would walk hand in hand in the palace gardens and make love onthe rooftop under the stars. Or sometimes we'd just take bubble bathstogether and watch old gladiator movies. "It didn't bother me that Saddam insisted on staying in thecloset. I knew he had his macho image to maintain and I was contentto stay in the background." But the romance began to sour as Terry hit 30 and started losinghis youthful waistline. "For a long time, I tried to ignore the lustful looks Saddam gavetroops on parade, and the rumors that he was sleeping with several ofhis handsome military aides," he says. But it became impossible to ignore the gossip when, in December,Terry caught the tubby, mustachioed despot romancing a rosy-cheekedyoung corporal under his desk. That night, the sweethearts had an angry confrontation at a packeddiplomatic ball. "I accused Saddam flat out of cheating on me -- and he slapped meright in the face," recalls Terry. "As I stood there, crying my eyesout, he called me a 'silly @#$*&.' "He said he was the most powerful man in the Middle East and wouldsleep with whoever he pleased. I finally ran out, weeping." Fearing reprisals, Terry fled the country and has taken refuge inhis native Paris. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 07:56:51 +0100 From: "Marian" Subject: Re: women guitarists Don't forget Patty Larkin! Wow - that woman can really play the guitar - and she uses open tunings, too. She ought to be in the top ten. Marian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:33:15 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc) Janis Ian -- guitar player, incredible lyricist and (!!!) a columnist? [referring to Janis Ian, a hero of mine for many reasons, Kate said] <> Kate -- I didn't know she had a column -- for that matter, I wasn't aware of this magazine -- I'll try to find it, maybe even subscribe. I first fell in love with Janis's songwriting even before her big breakthrough "At Seventeen" (remember "Jesse", "Stars" and all of those songs -- not quite as good -- written when she *was* a teen?). "At Seventeen" is one of the most amazing lyrics ever written: "I learned the truth at seventeen that love was meant for beauty queens and [something] with clear-skinned smiles who married young and then retired... And those of us with ravaged faces lacking in the social graces desperately remained at home inventing lovers on the phone who called to say, come dance with me and murmered vague obscenities It isn't all it seems at seventeen... [memory gap] ...with debentures of quality and dubious integrity; their small-town eyes will gape at you in dull surprise when payment due exceeds accounts received at seventeen..." *Any* lines at random from this song are as brilliant and poignant as these. The feelings this song inspired in me and every other geek of either sex, when it came out in '75 (I think), are hard to describe -- my god, there's someone who not only knows how I felt at that age (I was 19 when the song came out), but who puts it so eloquently, and makes a hit of it -- what triumph! How appropriate that Janis would be a columnist for a songwriting magazine! My favorite Janis Ian anecdote: The one and only time I ever watched Howard Stern's usually execreble syndicated show was when Janis Ian was on, shortly after she'd officially come out. How was *this* going to go? To my complete shock, he was almost courtly to her -- barely lingering on the lesbian thing, which is one of his schticks -- and when she sang "At Seventeen", he was clearly moved!! It occurred to me only then that *Stern* had, of course, been a geek in high school, too. Warmly, Walt ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #131 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?