From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #127 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 21 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 127 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: March 20 [les@jmdl.com] Re: whoa, guitarzan! [colin ] SUV's NJC [colin ] Re: PWWAM Questions...a few (+ Mariana stuff) ["Jerome ." ] Re: alison & the olympic flame (njc) [Julius Raymond ] Re: Hello Melbourne NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Accordions and sheet music (NJC) [Lori in MD ] Re: Accordions and sheet music (NJC) ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: Logo Contest!!!!!!! And the Winner Is.............. ["Kate Bennett" <] on diana krall & joni's managers [shane ] on diana krall & joni's managers [shane ] Re: Accordions and sheet music (NJC) [Randy Remote ] Fwd: kill some time with groupiecentral (njc) [jan gyn ] Re: SUV's NJC [colin ] Re: SUV's NJC [Lori in MD ] Re: SUV's NJC [colin ] Top 100 guitar players [dsk ] Re: SUV's NJC [Lori in MD ] Re: Top 100 guitar players (njc) [Les Irvin ] Re: Six degress of Joni and me :-) njc [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Top 100 guitar players (njc) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Top 100 guitar players [JRMCo1@aol.com] Joni mention... (sjc) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Joni as guitarist [dsk ] Top 100 guitar players [dsk ] Re: Jaco [Michael Paz ] Re: New Orleans Jonifest 2000, njc really [Michael Paz ] Re: Top 100 guitar players [Michael Paz ] (long)My performance piece for J-Fest '02: I need help/advice/criticism [BigWaltinSF@aol.co] Monk Rocks, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: New Orleans Jonifest 2000, njc really ["Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: whoa, guitarzan! > I was railing against > corporatism and the effects of massive wealth on our daily lives, it's > influence in government, etc.As well as questioning the legal structures > that insulate the super wealthy from the rules that the rest of us are > bound to. There is an excellent book available called The Real Meaning Of Money by Dorothy Rowe(Dr). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:51:03 +0000 From: colin Subject: SUV's NJC I had no idea what an SUV looked liek till an episode of Frasier the other night. They are HUGE! Here 4x4's are very popular. i'd like one. I drove one once and felt so much safer in it. Could see ahead and to the sides and back much better. It was a Range Rover. However, you needed strong legs. the clutch took quite an effort to depress. Whatever I get next, uit hads to have loads of room at back for my market day and for the dogs! - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 01:02:11 -0800 From: "Jerome ." Subject: Re: PWWAM Questions...a few (+ Mariana stuff) Alas, I missed the taping simply because I didn't have an internet connection for that crucial few weeks when Wally, God Bless Him, posted about attending it. SO glad to hear Mariana is doing well. I remember she always was so mature. This was back when I was the youngest male on the list, I think. But at 19/20, I was an old man compared to her! ____________________________________________________________________ Kakki wrote: Also, synchronicity - we used to have a young teenager on the jmdl, Mariana, who I think was around 14 when she joined the list. She also attended the PWWAM taping along with her Joni fan mom who was younger than some of us, ahem. Tonight I just happened to get an email from her after two years! She is a sophmore at USC film school now and is taking a class on Classic Rock where she is currently having an argument with the teacher regarding CSNY's vs. Joni's story of how Woodstock came to be written LOL. ____________________________________________________________________ Jerome NP: Sinatra + Jobim - "Change Partners" _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 01:10:47 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: PWWAM Questions...a few (+ Mariana stuff) Jerome, I didn't realize that you were also one of the younger jmdlers around here and that you'd missed the taping announcement! I just wrote back to Mariana and conveyed your good wishes to her. It's so funny - her teacher was lecturing the class how Joni wrote Woodstock based on what the CSNY boys told her after returning from Woodstock. Mariana challenged him and he retorted to her that he'd read it in Crosby's book and has his quotes to back it up. I just sent her 3 articles out of a group of many telling Joni's version of the story, including the one from Vanity Fair where Joni says the boys version makes her "blood boil." hehehe. It's great to hear that Joni's rightful reputation is being upheld in the halls of academia ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 04:42:15 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: PWWAM Questions...a few "Bree Mcdonough" writes: >6.Jaco:Did he play the accoustic bass at all in his career? (I would love >to hear the recording if he had) (I know,nothing to do with PWWAM) No, he didn't, but the funny thing is that when Josef Zawinul, co-founder of Weather Report, first heard Jaco on tape he called him up to hire him and asked "Do you play electric bass, too?" He had a sound on electric that was significantly informed by acoustic bass sound and playing practice. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 04:46:07 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc)Hey, Mike (and all), what's the dif between VG-8 and VG-88? BigWaltinSF@aol.com writes: >Hey, Mike, >Is "shreaders"a typo, or a new word from the 'net I haven't come across >yet? It is a typo (should be "shredders") but also possibly a new word for you; it refers to virtuosic guitar players, particularly those who are seemingly "shredding" the music into many tiny pieces with a constant barrage of very fast notes. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 04:48:50 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Accordions and sheet music (NJC) Have you heard the one about the accordion player coming home from a gig with his accordion in the back seat of his car? He stops at a mini-mart for a pack of cigarettes and when he comes back out, his car window has been smashed and now there are two accordions in the back seat. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:56:39 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Joni and Johnny Bob SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >Joni sang "Long Black Veil" with Johnny Cash on his TV show Yesterday I found this, in an interview with Johnny Cash in Life Magazine from 1994 - > LM: Country music had a spectacular breakout in the > late 1960s. Some say that the eye of the hurricane was > your house. > JC: "In 1968, '69, when I was doing my TV show, we'd > invite singers and guitar players over for dinner. Afterward, > everyone had to take the hot seat and do at least two songs. > The most memorable night was in '69. Kris Kristofferson sang > "Me and Bobby McGee," Bob Dylan sang "Lay Lady Lay," > Joni Mitchell sang "Both Sides Now," Graham Nash sang > "Marrakesh Express," and Shel Silverstein sang "A Boy > Named Sue"; all in the same night. People had never heard > those songs, and the very next week, when I played San Quentin > prison, I took "A Boy Named Sue" with me." All the best PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 03:36:35 -0800 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Re: alison & the olympic flame (njc) Ran across this in the January 28, 2002 "Sports Illustrated" mag: "To evoke the "Light the Fire Within" motto of these Games, the cauldron at Rice Eccles Stadium is glass, literally revealing the fire within. But burning gas in glass is fraught with technical challenges... The structure includes a continually flowing sheet of water to cool the glass, keep it from cracking and wash away soot. A computer system monitors the temperature and pumps the water." I'm awaiting confirmation from the Guiness Book of World Records authorities, but it appears that what we have here is the world's largest bidet! Congratulations, Al. :-p - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 06:02:16 -0600 From: "William Waddell" Subject: Hello Melbourne Are there any JMDLers out there in Melbourne? I received an email this morning from a friend I knew in Indonesia who is now back in OZ; <> I have such great memories of us sitting on the beach in north Bali as the sun was going down and singing one Joni song after another after another; mainly the early 70s' songs. It's so rare to meet someone out of the BLUE who feels as passionate about Joni. Willy the Shake _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:38:50 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hello Melbourne NJC <> I know of at least one; Gerald McNamara, an incredibly nice guy, and I know I've talked to a couple others and shared some recordings, but I don't know if they're still around. Bob NP: Freedy Johnston, "On The Way Out" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:03:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: Accordions and sheet music (NJC) Fred wrote: > Have you heard the one about the accordion player coming home from a gig with > his accordion in the back seat of his car? He stops at a mini-mart for a pack > of cigarettes and when he comes back out, his car window has been smashed and > now there are two accordions in the back seat. Oh, why can't that happen to ME??? ; ) Lori ~ Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:18:51 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Accordions and sheet music (NJC) I say 'ditto' to Lori. Gawd...to come out of a store and find your back seat filled with accordions! Heaven Lori in MD wrote: Oh, why can't that happen to ME??? ; ) > > > Fred wrote: > > > Have you heard the one about the accordion player coming home from a gig with > > his accordion in the back seat of his car? He stops at a mini-mart for a pack > > of cigarettes and when he comes back out, his car window has been smashed and > > now there are two accordions in the back seat. > > > Lori > > ~ > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:45:16 EST From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: I wonder 29? In a message dated Tue, 19 Mar 2002 5:43:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dave Cuneo writes: > Ciao joniphiles, > > I wonder how many listers know off the top of their heads how many > skaters are on Wollman (sp?) Rink circling in singles and in pairs? Ciao, > dave. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:13:49 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni counts! A nice way to teach kids to count to 10! ;~) Number ONE TWO Grey Rooms THREE Great Stimulants Pushing through a FOUR Lane Highway Last night the ghosts of my old ideas Reran on channel FIVE When I spotted SIX jet planes Leaving SIX white vapor trails across the bleak terrain I'd just turned twenty-SEVEN As we center behind the EIGHT ball Twenty-NINE skaters on Wollman Rink Then the child moved TEN times round the seasons Bob NP: Rickie Lee Jones, "Night Train" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:20:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: SUV's NJC Colin wrote: > I had no idea what an SUV looked liek till an episode of Frasier the > other night. They are HUGE! There are something like 60 models of SUVs available these days. They run the size gamut, from small ones like the Toyota RAV4 and Suzuki Grand Vitara, to "small mid-size" ones like the Mazda Tribute (same vehicle as the Ford Escape) and Isuzu Trooper, to "large mid-size" vehicles like the Ford Explorer and Buick Rendezvous, to huge-assed things like the Toyota Sequoiam Lincoln Navigator, and Cadillac Escalade. The last two are, IMHO, nothing but gross extravagance. Nevermind that they're gas hogs -- at $50,000 a pop, who would ever drive them off-road??? Colin, for your curiousity, there's an fairly (though not totally) complete list of available SUVs here (go to the bottom of the page): http://www.suv.com/models/ Lori ~ Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:09:01 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Logo Contest!!!!!!! And the Winner Is.............. Fabulous logo (all of them really- what incredible talent some people have) & Hell, your speech was so pro! Looking forward to seeing how the tatoo thing develps... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:11:20 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: shane Subject: on diana krall & joni's managers joni's managers, sam feldman and associates, are vividly described in their managing of diana krall, with a few references to their clients the chieftains and joni mitchell, in the following excellent article in canada's national post: http://www.nationalpostbusiness.com/home asp?include9§ion9&articleid24 cheers from shane (cd album completed) *************************** you sang for me like the seagulls in their homeless liberty just floating on the dayspring in their sighing daydreams... - -from 'sandefjord' www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:26:39 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: shane Subject: on diana krall & joni's managers difficulty with a direct url to the above mentioned article necessitates typing the below url in your address bar... arriving at national post business, the article is first mentioned in the headlines... the needed url is: http://www.nationalpostbusiness.com/ cheers, shane *************************** you sang for me like the seagulls in their homeless liberty just floating on the dayspring in their sighing daydreams... - -from 'sandefjord' www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:17:23 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Accordions and sheet music (NJC) What's the difference between an accordian and an onion? Nobody cries when you chop up an accordian. FredNow@aol.com wrote: > Have you heard the one about the accordion player coming home from a gig with > his accordion in the back seat of his car? He stops at a mini-mart for a pack > of cigarettes and when he comes back out, his car window has been smashed and > now there are two accordions in the back seat. > > -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:29:15 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: Fwd: kill some time with groupiecentral (njc) http://www.groupiecentral.com/newsstories.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:00:29 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Accordions (NJC) Q. What's the definition of perfect pitch? A. An accordian hitting a banjo in a dumpster Just kidding Sharon. I'm looking forward to hearing you play " In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" at Jonifest :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:12:45 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: Fwd: anti-sssca petition (njc) >If you want to stop Disney and the MPAA, RIAA (usual suspects) from >getting this heinous law passed, here's a petition you can sign: > >http://www.PetitionOnline.com/SSSCA/petition.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:40:14 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: SUV's NJC > Colin, for your curiousity, there's an fairly (though not totally) > complete list of available SUVs here (go to the bottom of the page): > http://www.suv.com/models/ didn't see a pic of the one i saw on Frasier. that one was sqaure looking. i only saw if=t from the rear-it was sqaure and very wide. So when it was parked in a bay, the doors couldn't open. > > > Lori > > ~ > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:44:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: SUV's NJC Colin wrote: > didn't see a pic of the one i saw on Frasier. that one was sqaure > looking. i only saw if=t from the rear-it was sqaure and very wide. So > when it was parked in a bay, the doors couldn't open. That episode of Frazier to due to air in the U.S. on March 26. Meanwhile, have a look at these and see if it was one of them. http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/models/escalade/index.jsp?hasFlash=true http://crowleyauto.com/crowleyLM/lmnavigator.htm http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban/ Lori, who despises huge SUVs ~ Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:30:56 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: SUV's NJC didn't look like any of those. It looked more like a military vehicle. Like a very wide jeep at back(only saw back). how come we saw the episode of Frasier before you? bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:15:42 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Top 100 guitar players Have y'all seen this yet? It's the "top 100 guitar players of all time". Joni's #74 and is the only woman on the list. Not sure I agree with Blue being a classic moment since the dulcimer is the most prominent string instrument. And I don't remember many percussive guitar sounds on LOTC. What do the guitarists here think? http://www.guitar.com/g2kfeatures/viewfeature.asp?featureID=12 Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:40:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: SUV's NJC Colin wrote: > It looked more like a military vehicle. Like a very wide jeep at > back(only saw back). In that case, it was probably a Hummer. http://www.hummer.com/flash.html > how come we saw the episode of Frasier before you? Dunno! Lucky you, though! Lori ~ Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:56:45 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Top 100 guitar players (njc) At 3/20/2002 01:15 PM, dsk wrote: >It's the "top 100 guitar players of all time". Joni's #74 and is the >only woman on the list. Not sure I agree with Blue being a classic >moment since the dulcimer is the most prominent string instrument. And I >don't remember many percussive guitar sounds on LOTC. What do the >guitarists here think? The list reads to me like a popularity contest rather than a listing of, as it is billed, "the best guitar players of the last Millennium." Looking at the top 25, I'm not sure that BB King is a 'better' guitar player than Pat Metheny - or that Keith Richard and Pete Townshend are better than Charlie Christian. Not taking anything away from anybody's talent, but I just don't think the list is what it claims to be. Just my humble opinion. :-) Les NP: Mike Marshall "Gostosinho" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:20:27 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Six degress of Joni and me :-) njc In a message dated 3/19/02 6:12:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, anne@sandstrom.com writes: > I spent several evenings with Eric Andersen. > Joni sang backup on Eric's album Blue River. > > Anne, I found this photo of Eric and Joni along with a little bio of Eric. You've probably already seen it since you've spent *several* eveings with Eric (wink wink) :~) the site is a long booger, but here it is: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.ericandersen.com/ericjoni.jpg& imgrefurl=http://www.ericandersen.com/bio.htm&h=170&w=150& prev=/images%3Fq%3Djoni%2Bmitchell%26start%3D100%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26ie%3 DISO-8859-1%26oe%3DISO-8859-1%26imgsafe%3Doff%26sa%3DN Jimmy (who typed every character of the above website :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:22:39 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Top 100 guitar players (njc) << Not taking anything away from anybody's talent, but I just don't think the list is what it claims to be. >> Ain't it always that way with these lists. As always, the criteria is very hinky, so the lists are subjective as hell. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Rains On Me" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:47:28 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Top 100 guitar players Tuck Andress didn't even merit honorable mention? That precludes this list from validity as far as I'm concerned. Regarding woman guitarists, I would've liked to see Ann Wilson represent. Susan Tedeschi makes my list. I would have to find room for blueser Deborah Coleman as well. They should word up on Elizabeth Cotten, too. Many people are of the opinion that classical guitarist Sharon Isbin is the finest guitarist in the world, bar none. Charo is a world-class flamenco stylist...don't let the coochie coochie fool you. Then, arguably, there's DiFranco, Raitt, Colvin... And where's Muriel Andersen, the excellent fingerpicker who Kakki, Paz, Alison, Donna and I had the good fortune of seeing in Anaheim during NAMM? She's considered one of the planet's best in that genre. And obviously, Joni should be much higher on the list, IMO. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:06:44 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Joni mention... (sjc) Hi, Smurph and all, Was at the closest Micky D's (the same one where I heard Hissing [the song, not the whole album] played on their DMX or whatever service they used), munching on a Big Mac when simultaneously, Shawn Colvin's "Sunny Came Home" came on, and in April's Premiere Magazine, in which I was reading Paul Rudnick's (writer of "Jeffrey" and "In And Out") column "If You Ask Me" (his nom de plume is Libby Gelman-Waxner, and s/he is the funniest movie reviewer in the world), and in this month's column, entitled "Barefoot in the Shrine", a review of Lord of the Rings, she says: "...Frodo has to head out on an epic quest to save the world by tossing the ring back into a fiery volcano, but his progress is hindered by an evil wizard named Saruman, who has long, stick-straight white hair that he keeps flicking off his face; Saruman looks exactly like Cher would if she'd been allowed to age naturally. Frodo sets out with several fellow hobbits and joins forces with a couple of hunky human warriors and an elf, whose race sports platinum-blond manes yanked straight back; I kept waiting for the elves to reveal their Joni Mitchell shrine or to introduce their leader, Marcia Brady." Of course, Joni has *never* (to my memory) gone actually platinum, rather leaning towards warmer blond hues, but nonetheless -- how many writers can manage a jab at Cher, and a mention of the Joanster and a fictional blond, all in one paragraph? In the next one, Libby manages *another* jab at Stevie Nicks (this time in the fashion department), and wonders, given that virtually all the emotion in the movie is expressed between males ("My captain, my king," indeed!), whether in the next installment there may be scenes of "towel snapping under a waterfall or a sweaty, shirtless volleyball match with a team from Keebler." I had to leave McD's before I started laughing too much. But it *is* a Joni mention, even if Libby gets JM's hair color wrong. (In case you don't feel like running out and getting Premiere magazine, Libby also wonders why someone, say Gandalf, doesn't suggest to the hobbits that they'd make better time with shoes on, and she describes the movie sets as looking like a Wagnerian opera set in a snow globe.) So, belated Happy St. Patrick's Day, you 87.5% of a mick, you! hugs, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:00:51 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Joni as guitarist Nice to see Joni getting some attention for the influence of her guitar playing. This blurb is from the Feb 19, 2002, NYTimes review of Cassandra Wilson's show at the Blue Note jazz club: The show came entirely from Ms. Wilson's forthcoming album on Blue Note records, "Belly of the Sun," to be released next month. The album continues to follow the form set by "Blue Light Till Dawn," the album that expanded her audience nearly a decade ago. "Blue Light" combined various tasteful elements in a precious but ingenious collection. Here the formula was little altered: slide guitar from the blues (played by Kevin Breit); acoustic fingerpicking harking back to Joni Mitchell's early progressive-harmony period (Marvin Sewell, who is the band's musical director); the swinging bass lines of jazz (Mark Peterson); the military bass drum and trianglelike pings of samba percussion (Cyro Baptista); the conga of Cuban music (Jeffrey Haynes). Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:15:25 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Top 100 guitar players Now that I'm looking at this info a little closer... it's odd that the list compilers have named the piano song "Blue" (not the whole album Blue as I'd first thought) as Joni's classic guitar moment. So the guys are a little confused. Still, I'm glad she's on this list at all... Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:03:56 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Jaco Not to mention Pat Metheny's guitar solo between Amelia and Hejira that in my opinion is the greatest guitar solo of all time. The expressiveness of this solo is just stunning. I have a couple of other recordings from that tour and that night it was positively brilliant. Best Paz on 3/19/02 8:11 PM, RobSher50@aol.com at RobSher50@aol.com wrote: > Fred, > > A few years ago, a new found friend and fellow musician said to me, "If you > are serious about pursuing music, you must buy Joni Mitchell's, "Shadows and > Light," and you must listen to the song, "Black Crow." Though I had been a > Joni Mitchell fan from my college and her "Court and Spark" days, I had lost > touch with Joni's music. The first time I heard Jaco play his bass solo at > the end of the song, I remember jumping up and down screaming because of the > awesome creativity and talent of this "guy" I'd never heard of! (Not taking > anything away from Michael Brecker's awesome sax solo on the song either!) My > friend was a bassist whom I respected immensely. When I told him my ultimate > joy of finding Joni again and discovering Jaco Pastorius, words could not > describe the look of pure satisfaction on his face for having someone really > "get" Jaco's musical style. Truer words by Pat Metheny were never spoken > concerning Jaco Pastorius. I am a fan for life! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:08:10 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: New Orleans Jonifest 2000, njc really I don't know how took them but there were many really nice shots. I don't think there are any of me actually playing though. Anybody who is holding out and has not shared pics from the fest please contact me. Thanks Paz on 3/19/02 8:47 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu at jlamadoo@yahoo.com wrote: > Sadly, Jimmy, no. The pictures on Bryan's site were > taken by his (then) finacee from the balcony..... > > Though I was *holding* a camera that evening, the guy > who was supposed to actually *ahem* FOCUS the camera > that night was apparently drunk. (Hanging my head in > shame.....) Except for Paz, I've never confessed to > this. I was a sorry sight indeed when I opened one > photofinishing envelope after another and found > nothing but blurry dreck. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:05:46 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: paz, joni, alison & the olympic flame (really should be njc) I DO have an excellent recipe for "Glow In The Dark Shrimp" (no scret spice needed) tee hee. Paz on 3/19/02 8:15 PM, Kate Bennett at kate@katebennett.com wrote: > no, we won't stop, or rather we can't...it has a life of its own now kind of > like alison & the olympic flame... > > "OH MY GAWD! Please stop! LOL!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:07:32 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Jaco In a message dated 3/20/02 10:56:25 PM, michaelpazz@directvinternet.com writes: >Not to mention Pat Metheny's guitar solo between Amelia and Hejira that >in my opinion is the greatest guitar solo of all time. The expressiveness >of this solo is just stunning. I have a couple of other recordings from that >tour and that night it was positively brilliant. I can't begin to find strong enough words to recommend the recent Pat Metheny Group album, "Speaking Of Now." Bottom line, if you like good music, you need this record. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:21:57 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Top 100 guitar players Debra Thanks for posting this. What an interesting list. The fact that "The Edge" scored so high for one chord and one progression is a mind fucker to behold. I think that Joni's earlier work is essential and probably some of her more complex stuff, even though I am a FTR/Hejira man personally. It has to be really hard to come with this lists cause you are always gonna piss somebody off or just supply fuel for the fire for months to come. My boys Steve Howe and Eric Johnson almost didn't make the top 100. Crazy! Oh well to each his own. I may try and tackle this topic sometime when I run out of stuff to do. Best Paz on 3/20/02 12:15 PM, dsk at dsk11@bellatlantic.net wrote: > Have y'all seen this yet? > > It's the "top 100 guitar players of all time". Joni's #74 and is the > only woman on the list. Not sure I agree with Blue being a classic > moment since the dulcimer is the most prominent string instrument. And I > don't remember many percussive guitar sounds on LOTC. What do the > guitarists here think? > > http://www.guitar.com/g2kfeatures/viewfeature.asp?featureID=12 > > Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:30:31 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Top 100 guitar players You made some damn good points here tonight FUCKO! Love Paz on 3/20/02 5:47 PM, JRMCo1@aol.com at JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > Tuck Andress didn't even merit honorable mention? That precludes this list > from validity as far as I'm concerned. > > Regarding woman guitarists, I would've liked to see Ann Wilson represent. > Susan Tedeschi makes my list. I would have to find room for blueser Deborah > Coleman as well. They should word up on Elizabeth Cotten, too. > > Many people are of the opinion that classical guitarist Sharon Isbin is the > finest guitarist in the world, bar none. > > Charo is a world-class flamenco stylist...don't let the coochie coochie fool > you. > > Then, arguably, there's DiFranco, Raitt, Colvin... > > And where's Muriel Andersen, the excellent fingerpicker who Kakki, Paz, > Alison, Donna and I had the good fortune of seeing in Anaheim during NAMM? > She's considered one of the planet's best in that genre. > > And obviously, Joni should be much higher on the list, IMO. >Ran across this in the January 28, 2002 "Sports Illustrated" mag: >"To evoke the "Light the Fire Within" motto of these Games, the cauldron at >Rice Eccles Stadium is glass, literally revealing the fire within. But >burning gas in glass is fraught with technical challenges... The structure >includes a continually flowing sheet of water to cool the glass, keep it >from cracking and wash away soot. A computer system monitors the >temperature and pumps the water." >I'm awaiting confirmation from the Guiness Book of World Records >authorities, but it appears that what we have here is the world's largest >bidet! Congratulations, Al. :-p > > -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:33:30 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Jaco Dammit Fred thanks for reminding me I think it was you who posted about this record before. I am going to tower tomorrow and I will give this to myself for my birthday. Yippie a new Pat. I also need to give Marc Egan a call, I have been a little lax lately. Best Paz on 3/20/02 9:07 PM, FredNow@aol.com at FredNow@aol.com wrote: > > I can't begin to find strong enough words to recommend the recent Pat Metheny > Group album, "Speaking Of Now." > > Bottom line, if you like good music, you need this record. > > -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:48:26 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (long)My performance piece for J-Fest '02: I need help/advice/criticism Hi, all, There's definitely Joni content to this -- I've been working for 3 months on a "pastiche" of three Joni songs; I've finally got the music more or less down -- all three songs (Sunny Sunday, Harry's House, I Don't Know Where I Stand) are now in the same key, and I've got bridges worked out, pretty much. My suspicion that SS and IDKWIS are sort of harmonically similar have been confirmed, to my satisfaction. But I need help. I am NOT a poet, and I had to do some fiddling with -- okay, replacement of -- the lyrics of HH, which I use as a bridge between the two other songs. So in the "B" sections below, help, if you can -- the sense I'm trying to convey is obvious, but I'm insecure as to how it sounds, how it flows poetically. Second piece of advice: Should I end the pastiche at the first "fade out", as per my original plan, or should I extend it, as shown below -- something that I've been fiddling with just recently? Does the extension overdrive the theme of indecision leading to being trapped, or is the repetition of the theme justified? I really would appreciate any comments, advice, help, or criticism. Thanks to all in advance for your patience. Pasticcio: Indecision and Regret (A = Sunny Sunday, B = [tune of] Harry's House, C = I Don't Know Where I Stand) A. She pulls the shade It's just another Sunny Sunday She dodges the light like Blanche Dubois Bright colors fade away On such a Sunny Sunday She waits for the night to fall... [bridge] B. She drifts back to the memory Of her naiveti in youth When the choices seemed so endless Had she only known the truth! [intro. to IDKWIS] C. Funny day, looking for laughter and finding it there Sunny day Braiding wild flowers And leaves in my hair Picked up a pencil and wrote "I love you" In my finest hand I wanted to send it, But I don't know where I stand. [scat] Telephone-- Even the sound of your voice is still new All alone, in California And talking to you And feeling too foolish and strange to say The words that I had planned I guess it's too early, 'Cause I don't know where I stand [bridge] B. In time, her options dwindled Choices made in haste Or lost through indecision She shudders at the waste [bridge] A. Then she points a pistol Through the door And she aims at the streetlight While the freeway hisses Dogs bark as the gun falls to the floor The streetlight's still burning She always misses... [quick fade to...] C. I know that I miss you But I don't know where I stand [quick fade back to...] A. She always misses But the day she hits, That's the day she'll leave That one little victory That's all she needs She pulls the shade It's just another sunny Monday She waits for the night to fall... (fade out... OR) [Okay, that was the end of the pastiche, until recently, when I started fiddling with a possible extension, shown here] [bridge back to IDKWIS] C. I wanted to send it, But I guess it's too early, See, I know that I miss you, But I don't know where I stand [IDKWIS scat blending into Sunny Sunday theme, which it does quite nicely, btw] A. She pulls the shade It's just another sunny Tuesday She waits for the night to fall... (fade out) Thanks, everybody! hugs and stuff, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 01:34:10 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Monk Rocks, NJC I've been listening to Thelonious Monk for a couple of weeks and I love his sense of fun and adventure. Like Jaco in "Sweet Sucker Dance", Monk knows when to use a space for humor and when to just flow on. I'm gonna be exploring more of THIS, that's for sure! All the best, Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:01:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: New Orleans Jonifest 2000, njc really About Bryan Thomas and his fiancee, Too bad those two dropped out of sight. I think her name is Cindy Ferrari? Very nice peoples and he was SOME talented writer AND player! Come back Bryan! Meet Kate and Jeff! BTW, thanks Michael. I love you, man! Lama - --- Michael Paz wrote: > I don't know how took them but there were many > really nice shots. I don't > think there are any of me actually playing though. > Anybody who is holding > out and has not shared pics from the fest please > contact me. Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #127 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?