From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #124 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 19 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 124 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Bush (NJC) Longer/Lasting [Susan Guzzi ] Joni's corporations njc ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:11:27 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Bush (NJC) Longer/Lasting Dear Bree, I only enjoyed it if you did ;-) Seriously, as I said these are just issues which put me over the edge and I felt you were missing my point. Sorry if I came down to hard. - --- Bree wrote: > Damn Susan,did you enjoy spanking me or what!! ;-0 > > >Well Bree, I just can't think that I have to bend over and take it as each > >"little" freedom gets whittled away. > Believe me.. I share your sentiments. Are you of the same mindset when it > comes to guns and e-checks? I hate this:The city I live in forces me to buy > these little stickers so I can get rid of MY leafs and tree clippings. (I > find secret little ways to get around this though) > I don't know what e-checks are. But I do believe that guns should be held way in check. It's the one "right" I think has outgrown its worth, but that's just my opinion. In those times people needed guns just to get there supper and because they lived in the wild. There are too many people now and we are supposed to be MORE cvilized - not less. BUT please I really don't want to get into that argument. Bree wrote: > It is a different world now after 9/11.....Israel's enemies are our > enemies.(which they were before 9/11 but now the stamp is in place) And > don't you think we need to implement some of what they have in place at > their airports? Sure it is an intrusion!! But what is the alternative? I agree and Bree my friend, I said I felt there was some occassion to take issue wth some of the direction the airport security may be taking us. Or that's what I meant if that didn't come across. I am not against increased security, I just meant it would be opening the door to other intrusions in other areas, that could begin to wear on our basic rights and freedoms. Israel's enemies are NOT my enemies. I have been a strong supporter of Israel no question. But I think that there is room for the Palestinian people as well. Israel is not without error,just as our government is not. I know we and the Israelis share a more common bond, but violence and hatred wears all colors and knows no borders. I say this as one who knows family on both sides of that particular clash. My niece and nephew although 3rd generation are partly Arab American - Palestinian/Christian at that. My maternal grandmother may have had some Jewish roots. So should I pick a side for side's sake or search for answers through peace and fairness? The enemy is violence, hatred and intolerance. Finally as to rights and the intrusion - alternative. Big brother is not coming - he is here! It's nip & tuck till they're all gone Bree. > > Bree wrote: > Frankly, I don't give a rats ass what THEY think of us. Cars are a part of > Americana. I personally like sports cars with a manual four speed..hence, > much horse power. I like the way they look;sleek,low to the ground. They > are aesthetically pleasing to me. Americana:When my sisters would date and > their boyfriends would come to my parents house for the first time the > question usually was...."What does he look like and what kind of car is he > driving?" If you try to dictate what those soccer moms can drive,well then, > you really will have a revolution. :-( > I think it is just dangerous and un-American to stifle creativity in any > way. To force engineers who design cars that they must meet even more > government standards and criteria is wrong. Wrong for America!! The > whittling away effect you wrote so eloquently about?? > Well you are correct, it is a part of Americana. But I personally, would rather have our independence from foreign oil, and be more environmentally sound than to worry about some of these things. Speed will eventually come up on these cars and the looks will evolve as well. Some generation has to step up and begin the process of change. I feel it is a matter of responsbility. And for those children's future. To recklessly continue to rape the earth to destruction, when we know better IS gluttonous. I am not perfect I also have my vices and my own biases. The kids will still get to soccer practice and the air may actually be a bit cleaner so they can breath as well. > >Oh and they are ugly!? Is that really part of your argument? Bree wrote: > Yes!!! I make no bones about it. One of my favorite cars I ever had was a > cherry red Camero:Big block engine,4 speed,black interior,mags. Damn!! It > was gorgeous!! Unfortunately, it met and early demise and hopefully.. it is > somewhere with Ray's Dad's Cadillac. > Sounds hot but the function of a car for me has always been for transportaion. I don't drive myself but when I fly I ride in those ugly Southwest airplanes - I don't care what they look like - - so long as I get there. I think it was Anne who mentioned what a challenge creatively it would be for engineers to tackle, coming up with a more aestheticly pleasing car - I agree . Bree wrote: > Thanks,I know you would defend my rights as well I would yours. IS it > nobler to something about the slings and.... Huh? > > Take care, > Bree Hope we played nicer this time. Guess I got all my frustrations out at the Blackhwaks game tonight - - nothing like hockey to take care of that! Peace, Susan Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:39:38 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni's corporations njc " Wonder what was paying for the dope, parties and houses then? How were some of them, when first starting out, before the first record contract, and at such a young age, able to have incredible guitars and other musical equipment, endless free time to compose and play music, new Porsches and houses in the Haight and in the canyons? Think about it." 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