From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #109 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, March 11 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 109 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: March 10 [les@jmdl.com] RE: Fluidity of Sex njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: NJC oxymoron [colin ] njc test-ignore [colin ] Re: NJC oxymoron [Randy Remote ] Not For Free njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: NJC oxymoron ["Dolphie Bush" ] Yiddish Blessing (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #68: "America's Best" ["Timothy Spong" ] Re: NJC oxymoron [Randy Remote ] Re: Judy Collins then --- now correlation of music and scenery NJC [] Re: Rufus Wainwright in concert (NJC) [] Judy Collins & coincidences - njc ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Whitney's flatulence, cf. w/ Dionne W. - njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Whitney's flatulence, cf. w/ Dionne W. - njc ["Dolphie Bush" Subject: RE: Fluidity of Sex njc i've just come back from a dinner party. we had the most fantastic conversation on precisely this topic. walt, had i read your post before i left, i would have had a MAJOR, KICK-ASS new concept to share with my friends: fluid sexuality. sexuality, the nature of desire, the formation AND the realization AND the actualization of a sexual identity have been THE central issues in my personal anthropological research for the last ten years or so. i've dated all 57 heinz varieties yet i know nothing. this evening we were five at the table: a married couple, parents of four children; a woman of forty who vowed chastity twenty years ago in order to consecrate herself to a mutually consented platonic partnership with a roman catholic priest; a gay man who had, between partnerships with males, a 5-year relationship with a woman; and i, a gay man with no significant romantic or sexual liaisons with women in my past. i wish you had been there. the diversity of backgrounds, the wealth of perspectives, and the candor of the narratives: what a memorable evening. i have no answers. some people seem to be ''sexually fluid'', some people seem to be confused or simply cowardly, and yet some people seem to undergo a process of actualization of a potential sexuality. from what i heard tonight, from what i've been hearing in the last decade, people are potentially ANYthing. in some cases events seem to trigger the actualization of some potential aspect or other. in other cases, we know from minute one who and what and where we are. a man may marry and have five children and then meet another man and move in with him. he'll put on leather gear and a dog collar. he may or may not take it off when his grandchildren come to visit. this hypothetical man, who was married for 10, 20, 30 years, had an erection every single time he wanted to have sex with his wife. his wife's skin is a woman's skin. she has a vagina. she has a woman's smell. this very same man loves to give head: he is turned on by the feel, the sight of another man's beard/legs/butt/cock. how can he be turned on by such diverse stimuli? are these stimuli mutually exclusive? can a man synchronously and genuinely be turned on by ''womanliness'' and ''manliness''? and i haven't even begun to discuss women yet! so many questions, so much pleasure in one's quest for answers. wally ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:03:21 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: NJC oxymoron The news that Bush is prepared to use nukes is terrifying and confirms the worst fears that people have about the USA. And Blair is going along with this. So exactly who are the mad men and which countries form the 'axis of evil'? I wonder how it would be if other countries decided to go to war with UK and the USA because we have weapons of 'mass destruction'? Imagine our outrage at this. Nukes were supposed to stop us being at war. big big piles of bullshit. It hasn't done anything of the sort. What it will do is blow us all to hell. And we deserve it really. It is only a mtter of time and I think that time is short. a nice cheerful message for this very windy Sunday! gene mock wrote: > hello everyone! oxymoron for the day brought you by our > pentagon---------"tactical mini nuke." - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:37:42 +0000 From: colin Subject: njc test-ignore ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:49:38 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: NJC oxymoron colin wrote: > The news that Bush is prepared to use nukes is terrifying and confirms > the worst fears that people have about the USA. And Blair is going along > with this. > What it will do is blow us all to hell. And we deserve it really. No, we don't deserve it. What we deserve is to wrestle power from the madmen that have it and dismantle the instruments of death and make this world the Eden it could be. Peace is still a good idea, RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:34:07 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Not For Free njc Willy, you need a warmer busking climate! Last night as we were making our way to the movies we passed a guy busking & he was very good (he was playing Jackson Browne's Lives in the Balance on his guitar & had a deep husky voice)...we tossed some dollars in his guitar case & noticed he had quite a large sum in there...laughing because we realized he'd made more money than either of us that day! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:35:09 -0600 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: NJC oxymoron > One more handy swipe at the us. Deserving or not, I would amend that > statement to read: the worst fears people have about the U.S. and Great > Britain, since Britain has been just as guilty of the things we are blamed > for as we have, or our government has rather. And Randy is right, we don't > deserve it. There are plenty of us that don't support G. Bush, never did > and never will. > > mack > > > > > The news that Bush is prepared to use nukes is terrifying and confirms > > > the worst fears that people have about the USA. And Blair is going along > > > with this. > > > > > What it will do is blow us all to hell. And we deserve it really. > > > > No, we don't deserve it. What we deserve is to wrestle power > > from the madmen that have it and dismantle the instruments of > > death and make this world the Eden it could be. > > Peace is still a good idea, > > RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:52:40 -0800 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Yiddish Blessing (njc) "Blessed...Universe, who has withheld nothing from this worldand has created beautiful creatures and beautiful trees in it,so that we may delight in them." MARCIA FALK- The Book of Blessings --- Victor Johnson--- waytoblu@mindspring.com"Roses wait for the springtime,They sleep beneath the ground.They hear March winds a callin'For the spring to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:19:10 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #68: "America's Best" On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, "Kate Bennett" wrote (about America's Best ... (tangential JC)): >Lucinda got this last year...did she get this again? > >I thought it was cool that she was recognized for this. She's in her late >40's, not beautiful, doesn't have a multirange, gorgeous voice. It really >was about her songwriting, not her image. Refreshing! > >The "Time Almanac 2002 with Information Please(R)" has a section called >"America's Best." America's Best Songwriter: Lucinda Williams, squib by >Emmylou Harris. > ... I respond: The 2002 Time Almanac (etc.) came out in late 2001, with information through October 2001. I checked the 2001 (late 2000) and 2000 (late 1999) editions, and they did not have "America's Best." So, Lucinda did "get this" last year, for the almanac that is curent for most of this year, and it remains to be seen who will get it sometime this year for next year's almanac, if they have "America's Best" again. And if Emmylou Harris actually made the selection, as opposed to only drafting the writeup, then, I am not surprised that Emmylou, herself a singer, songwriter and woman "d'une certaine age" was not swayed by extraneous considerations." Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:29:36 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: NJC oxymoron > hello everyone! oxymoron for the day brought you by our > pentagon---------"tactical mini nuke." I don't know if anyone else has said this already, but a "tactical mini nuke" would actually be an x-ray :-) Which somehow ties in to my previous post on doctors, etc... Of course, I realize that's not what the Pentagon has in mind... lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:26:18 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: NJC Re: Dr. Matthias Rath, and the right to take vitamins in the EU....???? Hi Walt You raise some interesting questions. I can't shed any light on what's going on, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if drug companies wanted in on vitamins, etc. I take Chinese herbs, prescribed by my acupuncturist. They're pretty expensive as is... And, in a related topic, I constantly debate the FDA approval process. Especiall for drugs like Endostatin, which could possibly help many cancer patients. On one hand, I understand wanting to make sure a drug actually works so that pharmaceutical companies aren't just selling 'snake oil.' On the other hand, for someone with nothing left to lose, is it ethical to deny them treatment that might help? (for example, if they don't quite fit in the parameters of a current study) And, in an odd twist, apparently a drug I was following was recently pulled from studies because the company went bankrupt! (The drug is IM 862 and it may be effective against ovarian cancer and Kaposi's sarcoma, although the second round of trials for KS were disappointing.) The drug is apparently available in Russia. And, finally (then I'll get off my soapbox) I don't like prescription drugs being advertised on TV. I'm inclined to think that controlled substances (that includes tobacco and alcohol) shouldn't be advertised. And does anyone have any idea what the new ad here in the U.S. is for - it shows the planets and asks "Does anyone know what's out there?" and answers "Your doctor does." B.S.!! lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:38:40 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Time/Info Please Almanac 2002 ??? (njc) Hey, Tim, and all, Tim mentioned the 2002 Time/Information Please Almanac -- I was bummed when the Info Please Almanac went out of business apparently some years back. I still have the '92, but some time after that i started getting the World Almanac, which i don't like as much -- when did Time start putting out this one -- is it really like the old Info Please almanacs, or did they just buy the name (does anyone know, or care?)) Thanks, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:03:22 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc) Yikes -- #108, computer problems, and forgetting njc!!! A quick apology to all the music-onlies -- I did *not* send those all at once - -- my computer is dying on me, and misbehaving w/r/t the internet -- but I *did* forget the NJC on several of them -- so sorry! Oh, wait, they won't get this if I put it "njc". Sigh. -- Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:05:54 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Apology to joni-onlies Sorry, joni-onlies -- I'm having computer problems, and additionally, *did* forget the njc on some of my notes yesterday. Won't happen (much) again. -- walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:16:12 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Drug company commercials In a message dated 3/10/02 1:26:44 PM, anne@sandstrom.com writes: << And does anyone have any idea what the new ad here in the U.S. is for - it shows the planets and asks "Does anyone know what's out there?" and answers "Your doctor does." B.S.!! >> Agree with all you said, and is there anything more annoying than those ads - -- the ones like the one you mentioned, that sometimes give the name of a drug, or even just the drug company, and no clue as to what the drug is for? It's because if they say what the drug is *for*, they have to give the side effects -- i guess that was the rule the drug companies were forced to asgree to, in order to advertise on TV. Hence all the *extremely* detailed and sometime unintentionally hilarious listing of side effects: "Heachache/stomacheache/coldandorflusymptoims/diarrhea/etc/etc/etc". lol. Oh, and "This drug is not for everyone -- se your doctor." Gee, you think? Hope you're well, Anne. Drugs or no. I'm literally sick from taking them, at the moment, but not quite ready yet to stop. hugs, walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:07:41 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: NJC oxymoron Randy Remote wrote: > colin wrote: > > > The news that Bush is prepared to use nukes is terrifying and confirms > > the worst fears that people have about the USA. And Blair is going along > > with this. > > > What it will do is blow us all to hell. And we deserve it really. > > No, we don't deserve it. What we deserve is to wrestle power > from the madmen that have it and dismantle the instruments of > death and make this world the Eden it could be. > Peace is still a good idea, Peace is a good idea. But no one seems to want it. Or rather not enough of us. The people in power have it because we let them have it. The people of my country and yours allow it happen. The voice of reason and peace is far too small. It seems it is easier for us to do nothing. As for Macks comment: well i can only assume he didn't read the whole mesaage as my 'swipe' as he put it was aginast the UK too. And whether or not any of you like it, this feeling of fear about the USA is real and widespread. You are also correct in that the UK did terrible things to other nations in the past and recently-in Bosnia and Iraq and in Northern Ireland. Like the USA in Vietnam and Grenada etc etc etc None of which alters my point about the fear the uSA engenders in people. Not an untruth, not a jibe, not a swipe, not an unkindness-just a fact. It is far easier to express righteous idignation at percieved insult than it is to address the issue at hand. The fact that I and millions of others are deeply concerned about the American postion on using nukes, and my countries siding with America, is a fact, not a personal slight or attack on you or anybody else. However, the response to my comment is a very good example of why we have so much conflcit. People interpret things the way they do, which may not have anything to do with the original intent and thus discord arises which leads to further misunderstanding, which leads to branding the other side as 'other' and then bad and before you know it we are at war and then out come the nukes...... For a long time, i truly believed(or maybe hoped) that nukes would never be used again. Now I think it is just a matter of time. I would love to be wrong. When i see the people of the UK and the people of the USA take to the streets in their millions protesting about this latest pronouncement, I will perhaps believe that we can avoid the nuclear end. > > RR - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:46:34 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: NJC oxymoron colin wrote: > Peace is a good idea. But no one seems to want it. Or rather not enough of us. > The people in power have it because we let them have it. The people of my > country and yours allow it happen. The voice of reason and peace is far too > small. It seems it is easier for us to do nothing. We've been told by the US media that Bush has overwhelming support, and dissent, since it has not been given a voice in the media, apparently doesn't exist. Well, activist and film-maker Michael Moore ("Roger & Me") has just released a book called "Stupid White Men", that is, to say the least, not supportive of the current Bush dynasty. And guess what? The book shot up to #3 on the NY Times bestseller list, (#1 on Amazon),is flying off the shelves, and Moore is being mobbed by standing room only crowds on his current N. Cal speaking and book tour. He says the idea that no one cares and everyone is supportive of Queen George is pure myth. Here is his report from the road. http://www.rense.com/general20/aw.htm Keeping us dissillusioned, frightened, and isolated is the plan. And convincing us that if we disagree with the official version of reality, we are probably alone. Make no mistake, this administration is using the Sept 11 tragedy as, in Bush's words, "an opportunity" to take control, to enrich the rich, and to inflict military superiority over the rest of the planet. Scary things are happening. For instance, a court just ruled that it is okay for authorities to drug anyone held in custody for any reason (not convicted of a crime, just accused), and they can drug them with anything they want, for as long as they want!!! This link isn't from some left-wing conspiracy group, it's from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. http://www.aapsonline.org/press/nrsell.htm As long as I am on a rant, a couple more nuggets of info. In 1998, intelligence officials from another country (I think it was Puerto Rico) told the FBI they had intercepted information that some group was planning on using commercial jetliners as missiles to crash into US buildings. They knew, yet it happened. Also, before the attacks, Gary Hart was a member of a senate appointed committee whose mission was to explore the US' vulnerability to attack. The committee's findings: this type of attack was highly possible, and steps should be taken immediately to prevent it. The report was ignored dispite the committee's urgent appeal to Congress to take it seriously. And Bush wants you to go shopping. RR As King Crimson sang: The fate of all mankind, I see, is in the hands of fools. As Patti Smith sang: People have the power > The fact that I and millions of others are deeply concerned about the American > postion on using nukes, and my countries siding with America, is a fact, not a > personal slight or attack on you or anybody else. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:53:32 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Re: Judy Collins then --- now correlation of music and scenery NJC For me, setting is important to my > appreciation of music. Is that true for anyone else? I like music > where I can get lost in the beauty of the music and the beauty of the > scenery around me as I drive in my car. absolutely! probably the very reason why i like Sophie B. Hawkins is because i was driving one very early morning along a winding road in northern luzon (philippines), and her voice came through the radio, so clear and plaintive that it seems to serve as the soundtrack for the beautiful mountainside scenery. her song was "as i lay me down" and i will always associate it with that particular windy morning when no one else was about and dawn was just making its presence felt. same with Frente!'s "bizarre love triangle". angela hart's rickie lee jones- like voice sounds so fragile but quite electrifying especially since i listened to that song one morning, too, when i was packing my bags and leaving town. that slow, long ride, i keep hitting the "repeat" in the cd player of the car. now, whenever i hear frente!'s BLT, i always remember mornings when people are still asleep and when the early risers are already going about their business. joseph (loves the very early mornings when all's fresh and pure) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:28:13 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Re: who's Abbey Lincoln? NJC > I've never heard of Abbey Lincoln -- can someone give a brief CV of > her, suggest something to listen to -- or even if she's worth it? Abbey Lincoln is more than a singer. She's an actress and that may account for the drama and feeling she imbues her songs. She composes, too and was married to Max Roach (their daughter Maxine is a great viola player). As a singer she may belong to the Billie Holiday, Lee Wiley, Cleo Laine type who chose to tell stories with their songs. Abbey released a lot of albums in the early 70s and 80s with two tribute albums to Billie as a standout. Her smoky approach to singing is in perfect sync with the songs associated to Lady Day. She also released an album called PEOPLE IN ME with a great and funny song with a catchy melody called "naturally" with lines like: "most women dress like queen of the night"... To me her best album is YOU GOTTA PAY THE BAND, featuring the sax great Stan Getz during his final year. He played with pure grace and with monumental swing still intact. Abbey composed "Bird Alone" in this album (later reworked by Dianne Reeves) and she, like Betty Carter in later years, use her voice as just one of the improvising instruments, giving other musicians enough room to improvise. Her other albums which are just as good include (in order) WHERE THERE IS LOVE (a duet album with pianist Hank Jones), THE WORLD IS FALLING DOWN (where she can be heard singing a French version of "How High the Moon"), A TURTLE'S DREAM, DEVIL'S GOT YOUR TONGUE and WHO USED TO DANCE (featuring the tap dancing of Savion Glover). I haven't acquired her latest WHOLLY EARTH. Her singing is quite unlike most ladies of jazz, preferring to flatten some notes to achieve a jazz feel. She is one of a kind, and yes, in a different category with Joni altogether. Not fair to compare them. I like Abbey as much as Joni, though. Joseph np: Grofe's The Grand Canyon Suite "Sunrise" (is that a real bird singing in "Sunrise" or just a piccolo?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:31:41 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Re: Rufus Wainwright in concert (NJC) I noticed that Rufus seems to be in high demand to sing in soundtracks of films. He did "Complainte de la Butte" in MOULIN ROUGE, Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" in SHREK, "Across the Universe" in I AM SAM and "Brother, Can You Spare A Dime" in ZOOLANDER. His solo albums are consistently great: RUFUS WAINWRIGHT and POSES. jOSEPH ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:53:57 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Judy Collins & coincidences - njc I just finished listening to an archived broadcast of a special two hour edition of the NPR program 'The Infinite Mind'. This particular program titled 'State of Mind: America 2002' was concerned with mental health issues related to the events of 9/11. The program included panel discussions from both NYC and Washington DC with commentary from Rosalynn Carter, Tipper Gore & Surgeon General Dr. David Satcher. There were also two musical performances. One was Jessye Norman singing a beautiful sacred piece written by Duke Ellington. The other was Judy Collins who sang a gorgeous version of 'America the Beautiful'. The program was recorded last month and let me say right here & now that Judy's voice was clear, expressive and on pitch throughout. She brought tears to my eyes. She's still got it, people, and if she ever performs in Seattle, I want to see her. Now for the coincidental part of this post. A while ago when the movie 'A Beautiful Mind' was being discussed on the list, Mary K. Powers brought up a book about a woman's personal battle with schizophrenia called 'Welcome Silence'. The author of this book is a Dr. Carol North. The last time I was in my home town, one of my parents' neighbors told me that someone who had been a childhood friend of mine and who had lived in the same house that this neighbor lives in now had become a doctor and had written a book about her battle with schizophrenia. Carol North was a schoolmate of mine when I was in elementary school and had moved away when we were around 10 years old. Well to make a long story short, Mary K. gave me some information that enabled me to get in touch with Dr. Carol North who is indeed the same Carol North I knew as a child and is now a psychiatrist and is considered an expert in the field of disaster research. She has conducted interviews & research in Oklahoma City after the bombing there and also Nairobi after the US Embassy bombing. She is currently very actively involved in research into the psychological ramifications of 9/11. She has even submitted testimony to the U S Senate advocating support for increased availability of treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder & other mental illnesses related to the attacks. She was also on one of the panels for 'The Infinite Mind' broadcast I just listened to. I heard her voice today for the first time in nearly 40 years. Carol had told me about this program and had also mentioned Judy Collins as one of the celebrities who would be appearing. But the main reason I searched out the archive and listened to it was because of Carol's participation. Judy was an added & more than welcome bonus especially since I have just recently begun collecting her records. But it gets even better than that. It turns out that Carol's parents and one of her brothers now live in Washington state just outside of Seattle. She will be in the area in August (just before Jonifest) and we have been emailing one another about meeting at that time. I don't know what I will have to say to someone I haven't seen or (until very recently) communicated with in nearly 40 years but it looks like I will be finding out. I'm a bit in awe of this person in view of everything she's accomplished in her life & I wonder if I will seem terribly dull to her. But she is someone I have never forgotten and has stuck in my mind over the years as a kindred spirit. Apparently she also has some positive memories of me as well. In her first email to me she said she remembers me very well and has a picture of me in her childhood scrapbook. I'm anxious to find out if there really is some kind of meaningful connection between us after all this time. There's one more coincidence in connection with all of this. One of Carol's fields of research is ECT. Some of you may remember that my mother has had a course of this treatment to help her with severe depression. In fact she recently had another treatment after a period of time when we thought she was done with them & didn't need them anymore. And the world just seems to get smaller & smaller.... Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:45:28 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Whitney's flatulence, cf. w/ Dionne W. - njc Walt writes: << Dionne "melisma'ed" from time to time, but she never overdid it. >> Hmm. But maybe she started the craze? Remember when she had a hit with "I Know I'll Never Love This Way Again" in the late 70s or early 80s? Could that have been the beginning of ubiquitous melisma-ing? Also, Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" makes me want to dive head first into the nearest wood chipper. I once had a severe panic attack in a Hallmark store when that song was blaring over the PA. I couldn't get out of there fast enough! I'd love to know what Dolly Parton (who wrote the song) really thinks of Whitney's version. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:08:42 -0600 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: Whitney's flatulence, cf. w/ Dionne W. - njc I don't know the specifics of the conversation Bob but I heard on one of those entertainment programs that Dolly was pretty happy about the revenue generated by the resurgence of the tune. haha. > > Also, Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" makes me want to dive head first > into the nearest wood chipper. I once had a severe panic attack in a Hallmark > store when that song was blaring over the PA. I couldn't get out of there > fast enough! I'd love to know what Dolly Parton (who wrote the song) really > thinks of Whitney's version. > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:08:45 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Fluidity of Sex njc Wally writes: << can a man synchronously and genuinely be turned on by ''womanliness'' and ''manliness''? >> Ask Eddie Murphy! On a more serious note -- I happen to be awaiting news from a friend who is due to give birth to her first baby at any moment. When I first met my friend about 5 years ago, she was a lesbian. A couple of years ago, she met a man and fell in love. People have always jumped fences, and they always will. And regarding the writer Mack mentioned who called Anne Heche a "former lesbian," my guess is that the writer was not uninformed or ignorant about issues regarding sexuality -- I think the he or she was making fun of the never-ending absurdity of Anne! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:07:29 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: who's Abbey Lincoln? NJC Abbey is going to be at this years Jazz and Heritage Festival. I have a few of her records and love her voice very much. See ya at the fest! Paz on 3/10/02 6:28 PM, jpalis@kssp.upd.edu.ph at jpalis@kssp.upd.edu.ph wrote: >> I've never heard of Abbey Lincoln -- can someone give a brief CV of >> her, suggest something to listen to -- or even if she's worth it? ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #109 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?